The Transformation from G25 to G3660: A Journey of Power and Precision

As we take a look at the graph, it's clear that the addition of BC 264 cams has made a significant impact on the performance of our engine. The red line, representing the new g3660 setup, shows a substantial increase in power compared to the blue line, which represents the earlier g25 660 configuration. However, what's even more impressive is how the boost pressure and torque curve have changed over time.

Initially, we were experiencing issues with the attack signal, but after addressing these concerns, the results speak for themselves. The new setup has allowed us to follow a similar torque curve as before, but with significantly less mid-range lag. This is a testament to the power and precision of our engine, which was previously limited by the earlier configuration.

We also noticed that the back three cylinders were glowing red, indicating that they were running hotter than usual. This led us to investigate further, as we suspected that there might be an issue with the injectors or the manifold design. Fortunately, after some troubleshooting, we were able to resolve the issue and get our engine back on track.

One of the most striking aspects of this transformation is the significant increase in boost pressure and torque output. By switching from a 6-3 exhaust housing size to an 8-1 configuration, we've been able to maintain the same curve while increasing power output. This is a testament to the engineering prowess behind our engine setup and the careful attention to detail that has gone into optimizing its performance.

As we move forward with this project, it's clear that there's still more work to be done. We're not quite sure what caused the issue with the back three cylinders, but we're determined to get to the bottom of it. With the help of our team and the expertise of professionals like Johann Shulman, Freddie, and Marco, we're confident that we'll be able to identify and resolve any issues and take our engine to the next level.

The journey ahead won't be easy, but with a clear understanding of what works and what doesn't, we're ready to tackle whatever challenges come our way. As we prepare for our upcoming trip to California, where we'll be putting our new engine setup to the test, we can't help but feel a sense of excitement and anticipation. What's in store for us? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: with this team and this project, the possibilities are endless.

A Final Word from the Author

As I sign off on this article, I want to express my deepest gratitude to everyone who has contributed to this journey. From the bottom of my heart, thank you to Johann Shulman for his tireless efforts in getting our engine up and running. Thank you to Freddie for braving the wee hours of the night to ensure that we have the best possible setup. And thank you to Marco for letting us use their space – it's been a pleasure working with all of you.

As I look back on this project, I'm reminded of just how much goes into creating something truly exceptional. From the initial spark of an idea to the countless hours of testing and refinement, every step has been crucial in bringing our vision to life. And as we move forward, I'm confident that we'll continue to push the boundaries of what's possible.

So, until next time, when we'll be sharing some exciting updates from California, I bid you farewell. May the road rise up to meet you, and may your engine always run smoothly – for that's the ultimate goal, after all!

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enwelcome to today's video guys i know in the last video i told you what was going on we got the fd going to the dyno right now i'm about to hop in and go drive it over there we're going to see what power it makes right now with the ls3 with the cam that came with it and then freddie's going to dial it in a little bit see if we can make a little more power i'm curious i have no idea what it's going to make is it going to make under forge or is it going to make high 400s i don't know anything about v8s in addition to that we are throwing the chaser back on the dyno with the refrest engine now compared to last time it's got the bc 264 cams out of the other setup springs retainers from brian crower and it also has a g3660 versus the g25 660. should make about the same power but hopefully breathe a little bit better up top maybe see a little bit better numbers on pump gas instead of having a graph that goes hopefully a graph that goes yeah like that so we're about to head out it's been a rush but everybody's been killing it we got it all under control before we head to the dyno i want to give a massive shout out to one of my biggest sponsors on the channel as you guys already know ring ring helps me wherever i am protect both my home and my shop with their smart video doorbells and their security cameras as i've shown you guys i could be away and i could see what cars are on the list to figure out if i got to move some around to get a certain car out it's got two-way audio you can hear what's going on i can talk to everyone in the shop and i can do the same thing with the camera that's built into the video doorbell out my home in addition to being able to look at the cameras it's convenient if i ever need to go back in time and figure out if i lost something we actually used it the other day to figure out where an exhaust manifold gasket went that we lost i'm personally a big fan of ring it's made my life a lot easier and i think you guys will really like it too if you guys want to get a special offer on ring welcome kit when you go to ring.com lz it'll give you a deal for both the ring video doorbell 3 and the chime pro it's all you need to start building custom security for your home today make sure you go to ring.com lz i'm massively appreciative of ring and i think you guys will really like their product now let's go to the dyno freddy's here freddie are you excited i'm finally giving you a man's motor to tune all right what are we gonna make what's the goal what's the plan 420 blaze it yes all right so i don't know much about ls's it is a mid cam so it's not the super gnarly cam but it's not the stock cam but it's like the crate motor with the middle option cam i've heard people say hi 400s i felt like it was making like low 300s before i just drove it felt like it was like maybe 450. um but we'll see what it's at we'll see what you're able to squeeze out of it what if you tune it and it makes less power than our guesses no than it does now what if you make it worse you don't know what it makes i just mess with you pretty super so cool my truck's so big my smile is even bigger though all right freddie walk me through the process of tuning a v8 i one thing that i don't understand is like i know that this car is already tuned if you had a car that was untuned i feel like with an lsd after it's like and it makes all its grunt right right away so how do you like how do you know what it wants i don't want to say you guess but like you do a very educated guess and you add more fuel less timing to start from so you over richen it and you uh the timing a little bit and you know you do your you roll into it pretty heavy find you know where it wants to be and then make adjustments so based off the map that you're looking at from this car would you say mostly you're going to be taking a little fuel out because we both think that it's rich but how does ignition timing look on it it seems like a little bit on the safer side for ignition timing so we'll see if the motor is happy with it uh small cams don't like a lot of timing so it may end up being the same timing that's in it currently just cleaning up the fuel we're gonna make a baseline see what it's making now i wish we had a baseline with the crappy spark plugs in it because it probably would have been 100 wheel less but my guess is right now dude it felt spicy i bet it's already over 400 oh yeah for sure for sure like 420 probably right now imagine if we're 20.69 imagine that this thing's just stock you see so freddy's just using hp tuners he said he actually started off tuning a lot of these ls engines so i'm expecting some very spicy results this goal is to make 420 and right off the rip super rich according to freddy how it is right now it made 422.95 and 407 foot pounds of torque which is actually really good it's a nice looking curve seems pretty happy you just gotta dial it in and it should be even happier how'd it look in the log freddy rich yeah like ten nine ten nine ten nine what do we want this thing out like mid 11's about five oh yeah because it's n a yeah it's in it sick twelve five is even on the safer side really it was an ethanol i'd push it close like 13. all right so now that we know this thing makes 420 blaze it as a baseline what do you think it will make turned up like 450 more probably like 440. okay it's a guess i'm i'm gonna go with 450 because it's fd fight me now yeah okay a little bit late on filming that clip but one adjustment and the car already picked up another 30 wheel and another 30 foot pounds of torque so pretty much the entire curve it has picked up power that's amazing go freddie hey the last bowl freddie just cleaned a couple of things up and you can see it gained a little bit of mid-range up there but overall compared to where it started from 30 wheel gain all across the board and about 30 foot pounds of torque across the board is very good rumor has it marco uh has a quick little tram we can hop on and go over to mexico yeah well i am mexican so i have my passport linked up and now i know a couple people just do the border and get to take care of it what do you take in mexico uh your passenger seat but to be fair freddie probably needs to look over there yeah i'll just walk you know i got my boots on so let's see over there you don't have something i'm gonna head start don't worry about it i wanted to tandem bro i'm sad now i thought this was a a duo thing i play hard to get full disclaimer it is wet out so this thing's definitely not going to get much traction but i can already tell this thing is going to be fun ready that's that's what it didn't have before uh i'm convinced that it was like misfiring before because it feels loads better like i did i couldn't use to be able to like kind of you see i was having fun with that little throttle input there no it's loads better i'm excited thank you freddie thanks for making me change my spark plugs your film is full you ready we're moving it's like pretty fast like it's like this feels way faster than a corvette for sure that's pretty cool it feels good you like it do you approve i approve it's neat i don't hate it as much as i used to now that it actually does things which sounds cooler too this thing would be really fast on a track i kind of want to take it to a track it'd just be hard like to have self-control and not just floor it all the time seems good get over here come here come here come on just get right here we got all warmed up for you there you go look at you you're with the boys you're involved with moral supports did you hear that i think it was rubbing on the chassis it's over here it's a very low pitch noise there's a little more valtteri noise which could just be because of the stiffer springs in this one compared to the other one that noise just got me a little nervous i really do think we just need to re-bleed a little bit it's getting a little hot we forgot to turn the fans on kind of a couple different things all combined into a butterfly effect look at that new cam gear spicy yup spicy like your mayo keep going yeah i can feel water's filling up in the bottom hose now it was all air before and now it is all right we're chilling now yeah since the car on driftwood is going to be running on pump gas that's what freddie's going to focus on first before we start adding the 85 content to it i'm hoping to make a little bit over 400 this time last time i think it was close to like 390 something so we shall see still got that beautiful garrett sound the g3660 this time slightly bigger exhaust side same side compressor nothing bad dude almost 400 horsepower in the first rip 480 foot pounds of torque that's a lot that's rad and it's still making deep torque at the same rpm as it did with the small turbo there was a t it was like melted it was making it over boost so i changed it and now it's 350. same temperature that i think my pizza um we're gonna go check in with fredward and see what boost he's at right now but i will say i'm very impressed we went up a frame went from g25 to g30 kept the same compressor side it only seems to have moved the peak torque rpm number up like 500 rpm before we had peak torque around 4000 rpm now we're up closer to like 4500 which still is phenomenal and we're already at 393 wheel and 394 torque on pump gas so you can see he's just kind of adding in a little bit here and there and it's looking phenomenal and it's not really falling off that much up top either like it did before how many boosts 18 18. she seems pretty happy compared to before oh yeah what did we end on pump gas before i think it was like 390 at 21 pounds okay so another three pounds we're definitely over 400 if you're into the same for sure that's awesome it seems happier with the cams though it seems happier with the camps and the bigger turbo yeah the higher rpm looks a lot better now it doesn't yeah it doesn't like you know peak and fall yeah it used to do this now it does this all right so freddie's pretty happy with where it's at on pump gas we're at 20 pounds a little bit less than we ran before we're already at 400 wheel but that's actually a third gear pull so when he goes up to fourth which is actually one to one on this car it's going to naturally make a little bit more power just because the way how everything works but he wants to pull a plug check to make sure the timing's happy kind of an old-school way to do it but phrase is old school dude he's got little legs big aspirations out here making power dudes wow that's funny how i brought the torque right back to 4000 rpm now that it's in the proper gear and it's got more load yeah dang it i guess in theory we could just ramp the boost in yeah and not just have the turbo just like come on when it wants to come on but that's not fun so we wound up 21 pounds of boost on 93. appraiser looks a little choppy just because the tires are bouncing around a little bit but that's a very good looking graph it's a lot of torque early on we're probably going to mellow it out a little bit once we're on e but uh 415 should be great and a big transformation from before on driftweek when i had maybe like 320 to 350 wheel with the stock turbo so it should be like an entirely different car and rip we were having issues with the attack signal last time we were here so i don't have a direct comparison this is pump gas to pump gas g25 660 last time in green to g3660 this time in red with the addition of bc 264 cams you can see we lost a little bit of mid-range down here but picked up quite a bit up top but this seems to be the most clear representation i could find of the change from before and after crazy oh we're back in business baby a couple minor fixes later i'm pulling an all-nighter tonight guys i'm flying to california super early when i go i'm packing to do i'm very excited but like you know when you're tired because you know that you're going to go to bed late and have to wake up early yep that's kind of where i'm at right now yep i'm so appreciative everyone here helping and making this happen it's so spicy dude like oh spice spice my life up ready oh mike actually saved the day so he he came up to me and he was like man it's like is this supposed to be glowing and i was like glowing so i stood here which i don't like to do on dinos because you never know if something's going to go wrong with a fan a belt or something never a good idea to stand close took a video and the back three runners were glowing red um now you want to explain what that means that means just like the factory cylinders are running a little bit hotter like leaner i already uh have them trim ten percent more fuel just because the manifold design the back two three cylinders usually get more air on an inline six so the fact it's doing it means the injectors are pretty much clogged which i wonder i mean it's not super likely but what if the injectors were pretty dirty or one's clogged for whatever reason and that's what sent the rod through the block possibly like maybe one got clogged one cylinder ran lean because it was the back too yeah i wonder if um like johan kept them in the same order when you put them in oh actually so these injectors i believe came from the white car so i don't that kind of rules everything we set out something weird's going on it's late we're just going to call it we want to be able to go over the car and check it out we great luck with rx7 this one's just one of those things we we know now that the setup's awesome that it makes great numbers yeah i'm going to show you on the graph real quick we basically lost nothing going to g30 from g25 which is pretty insane in the camps too yeah and the cams as well so that's really rad but i think it's just time to call it so if you look at this graph right here the red one is the new g3660 the blue one is the g25 660. we didn't lose pretty much anything in spool now we have quite a bit less boost in it so we could actually mimic the same curve but you can kind of tell by the way that it's following the torque line what's interesting is it shows how crazy the back pressure must have been before when we can go up a frame up an exhaust housing size because we went from a 6-3 to an 8-1 and still be able to follow the same curve i think i said there's quite a bit less boost in this mid-range so it would have been very easy for us to follow that curve but we're trying to play it a little bit safer um but i don't know whatever's going on with those back three cylinders could potentially be something as to why the last engine blew up so not sure why but we're gonna figure it out revisit that and we'll let you guys know um i think i'm gonna close this video out here but super appreciative to johann shulman getting this thing done freddie for coming out here tune in at wee hours of the night with his wee little legs and just absolutely putting them work to make sure that we have the best possible end result and to tie in and marco for letting us use their space as always it's very very much appreciated thanks bro so that's it i want to see you guys in the next video i'll actually be in california and i have some pretty cool stuff going on there so see you soon thank youwelcome to today's video guys i know in the last video i told you what was going on we got the fd going to the dyno right now i'm about to hop in and go drive it over there we're going to see what power it makes right now with the ls3 with the cam that came with it and then freddie's going to dial it in a little bit see if we can make a little more power i'm curious i have no idea what it's going to make is it going to make under forge or is it going to make high 400s i don't know anything about v8s in addition to that we are throwing the chaser back on the dyno with the refrest engine now compared to last time it's got the bc 264 cams out of the other setup springs retainers from brian crower and it also has a g3660 versus the g25 660. should make about the same power but hopefully breathe a little bit better up top maybe see a little bit better numbers on pump gas instead of having a graph that goes hopefully a graph that goes yeah like that so we're about to head out it's been a rush but everybody's been killing it we got it all under control before we head to the dyno i want to give a massive shout out to one of my biggest sponsors on the channel as you guys already know ring ring helps me wherever i am protect both my home and my shop with their smart video doorbells and their security cameras as i've shown you guys i could be away and i could see what cars are on the list to figure out if i got to move some around to get a certain car out it's got two-way audio you can hear what's going on i can talk to everyone in the shop and i can do the same thing with the camera that's built into the video doorbell out my home in addition to being able to look at the cameras it's convenient if i ever need to go back in time and figure out if i lost something we actually used it the other day to figure out where an exhaust manifold gasket went that we lost i'm personally a big fan of ring it's made my life a lot easier and i think you guys will really like it too if you guys want to get a special offer on ring welcome kit when you go to ring.com lz it'll give you a deal for both the ring video doorbell 3 and the chime pro it's all you need to start building custom security for your home today make sure you go to ring.com lz i'm massively appreciative of ring and i think you guys will really like their product now let's go to the dyno freddy's here freddie are you excited i'm finally giving you a man's motor to tune all right what are we gonna make what's the goal what's the plan 420 blaze it yes all right so i don't know much about ls's it is a mid cam so it's not the super gnarly cam but it's not the stock cam but it's like the crate motor with the middle option cam i've heard people say hi 400s i felt like it was making like low 300s before i just drove it felt like it was like maybe 450. um but we'll see what it's at we'll see what you're able to squeeze out of it what if you tune it and it makes less power than our guesses no than it does now what if you make it worse you don't know what it makes i just mess with you pretty super so cool my truck's so big my smile is even bigger though all right freddie walk me through the process of tuning a v8 i one thing that i don't understand is like i know that this car is already tuned if you had a car that was untuned i feel like with an lsd after it's like and it makes all its grunt right right away so how do you like how do you know what it wants i don't want to say you guess but like you do a very educated guess and you add more fuel less timing to start from so you over richen it and you uh the timing a little bit and you know you do your you roll into it pretty heavy find you know where it wants to be and then make adjustments so based off the map that you're looking at from this car would you say mostly you're going to be taking a little fuel out because we both think that it's rich but how does ignition timing look on it it seems like a little bit on the safer side for ignition timing so we'll see if the motor is happy with it uh small cams don't like a lot of timing so it may end up being the same timing that's in it currently just cleaning up the fuel we're gonna make a baseline see what it's making now i wish we had a baseline with the crappy spark plugs in it because it probably would have been 100 wheel less but my guess is right now dude it felt spicy i bet it's already over 400 oh yeah for sure for sure like 420 probably right now imagine if we're 20.69 imagine that this thing's just stock you see so freddy's just using hp tuners he said he actually started off tuning a lot of these ls engines so i'm expecting some very spicy results this goal is to make 420 and right off the rip super rich according to freddy how it is right now it made 422.95 and 407 foot pounds of torque which is actually really good it's a nice looking curve seems pretty happy you just gotta dial it in and it should be even happier how'd it look in the log freddy rich yeah like ten nine ten nine ten nine what do we want this thing out like mid 11's about five oh yeah because it's n a yeah it's in it sick twelve five is even on the safer side really it was an ethanol i'd push it close like 13. all right so now that we know this thing makes 420 blaze it as a baseline what do you think it will make turned up like 450 more probably like 440. okay it's a guess i'm i'm gonna go with 450 because it's fd fight me now yeah okay a little bit late on filming that clip but one adjustment and the car already picked up another 30 wheel and another 30 foot pounds of torque so pretty much the entire curve it has picked up power that's amazing go freddie hey the last bowl freddie just cleaned a couple of things up and you can see it gained a little bit of mid-range up there but overall compared to where it started from 30 wheel gain all across the board and about 30 foot pounds of torque across the board is very good rumor has it marco uh has a quick little tram we can hop on and go over to mexico yeah well i am mexican so i have my passport linked up and now i know a couple people just do the border and get to take care of it what do you take in mexico uh your passenger seat but to be fair freddie probably needs to look over there yeah i'll just walk you know i got my boots on so let's see over there you don't have something i'm gonna head start don't worry about it i wanted to tandem bro i'm sad now i thought this was a a duo thing i play hard to get full disclaimer it is wet out so this thing's definitely not going to get much traction but i can already tell this thing is going to be fun ready that's that's what it didn't have before uh i'm convinced that it was like misfiring before because it feels loads better like i did i couldn't use to be able to like kind of you see i was having fun with that little throttle input there no it's loads better i'm excited thank you freddie thanks for making me change my spark plugs your film is full you ready we're moving it's like pretty fast like it's like this feels way faster than a corvette for sure that's pretty cool it feels good you like it do you approve i approve it's neat i don't hate it as much as i used to now that it actually does things which sounds cooler too this thing would be really fast on a track i kind of want to take it to a track it'd just be hard like to have self-control and not just floor it all the time seems good get over here come here come here come on just get right here we got all warmed up for you there you go look at you you're with the boys you're involved with moral supports did you hear that i think it was rubbing on the chassis it's over here it's a very low pitch noise there's a little more valtteri noise which could just be because of the stiffer springs in this one compared to the other one that noise just got me a little nervous i really do think we just need to re-bleed a little bit it's getting a little hot we forgot to turn the fans on kind of a couple different things all combined into a butterfly effect look at that new cam gear spicy yup spicy like your mayo keep going yeah i can feel water's filling up in the bottom hose now it was all air before and now it is all right we're chilling now yeah since the car on driftwood is going to be running on pump gas that's what freddie's going to focus on first before we start adding the 85 content to it i'm hoping to make a little bit over 400 this time last time i think it was close to like 390 something so we shall see still got that beautiful garrett sound the g3660 this time slightly bigger exhaust side same side compressor nothing bad dude almost 400 horsepower in the first rip 480 foot pounds of torque that's a lot that's rad and it's still making deep torque at the same rpm as it did with the small turbo there was a t it was like melted it was making it over boost so i changed it and now it's 350. same temperature that i think my pizza um we're gonna go check in with fredward and see what boost he's at right now but i will say i'm very impressed we went up a frame went from g25 to g30 kept the same compressor side it only seems to have moved the peak torque rpm number up like 500 rpm before we had peak torque around 4000 rpm now we're up closer to like 4500 which still is phenomenal and we're already at 393 wheel and 394 torque on pump gas so you can see he's just kind of adding in a little bit here and there and it's looking phenomenal and it's not really falling off that much up top either like it did before how many boosts 18 18. she seems pretty happy compared to before oh yeah what did we end on pump gas before i think it was like 390 at 21 pounds okay so another three pounds we're definitely over 400 if you're into the same for sure that's awesome it seems happier with the cams though it seems happier with the camps and the bigger turbo yeah the higher rpm looks a lot better now it doesn't yeah it doesn't like you know peak and fall yeah it used to do this now it does this all right so freddie's pretty happy with where it's at on pump gas we're at 20 pounds a little bit less than we ran before we're already at 400 wheel but that's actually a third gear pull so when he goes up to fourth which is actually one to one on this car it's going to naturally make a little bit more power just because the way how everything works but he wants to pull a plug check to make sure the timing's happy kind of an old-school way to do it but phrase is old school dude he's got little legs big aspirations out here making power dudes wow that's funny how i brought the torque right back to 4000 rpm now that it's in the proper gear and it's got more load yeah dang it i guess in theory we could just ramp the boost in yeah and not just have the turbo just like come on when it wants to come on but that's not fun so we wound up 21 pounds of boost on 93. appraiser looks a little choppy just because the tires are bouncing around a little bit but that's a very good looking graph it's a lot of torque early on we're probably going to mellow it out a little bit once we're on e but uh 415 should be great and a big transformation from before on driftweek when i had maybe like 320 to 350 wheel with the stock turbo so it should be like an entirely different car and rip we were having issues with the attack signal last time we were here so i don't have a direct comparison this is pump gas to pump gas g25 660 last time in green to g3660 this time in red with the addition of bc 264 cams you can see we lost a little bit of mid-range down here but picked up quite a bit up top but this seems to be the most clear representation i could find of the change from before and after crazy oh we're back in business baby a couple minor fixes later i'm pulling an all-nighter tonight guys i'm flying to california super early when i go i'm packing to do i'm very excited but like you know when you're tired because you know that you're going to go to bed late and have to wake up early yep that's kind of where i'm at right now yep i'm so appreciative everyone here helping and making this happen it's so spicy dude like oh spice spice my life up ready oh mike actually saved the day so he he came up to me and he was like man it's like is this supposed to be glowing and i was like glowing so i stood here which i don't like to do on dinos because you never know if something's going to go wrong with a fan a belt or something never a good idea to stand close took a video and the back three runners were glowing red um now you want to explain what that means that means just like the factory cylinders are running a little bit hotter like leaner i already uh have them trim ten percent more fuel just because the manifold design the back two three cylinders usually get more air on an inline six so the fact it's doing it means the injectors are pretty much clogged which i wonder i mean it's not super likely but what if the injectors were pretty dirty or one's clogged for whatever reason and that's what sent the rod through the block possibly like maybe one got clogged one cylinder ran lean because it was the back too yeah i wonder if um like johan kept them in the same order when you put them in oh actually so these injectors i believe came from the white car so i don't that kind of rules everything we set out something weird's going on it's late we're just going to call it we want to be able to go over the car and check it out we great luck with rx7 this one's just one of those things we we know now that the setup's awesome that it makes great numbers yeah i'm going to show you on the graph real quick we basically lost nothing going to g30 from g25 which is pretty insane in the camps too yeah and the cams as well so that's really rad but i think it's just time to call it so if you look at this graph right here the red one is the new g3660 the blue one is the g25 660. we didn't lose pretty much anything in spool now we have quite a bit less boost in it so we could actually mimic the same curve but you can kind of tell by the way that it's following the torque line what's interesting is it shows how crazy the back pressure must have been before when we can go up a frame up an exhaust housing size because we went from a 6-3 to an 8-1 and still be able to follow the same curve i think i said there's quite a bit less boost in this mid-range so it would have been very easy for us to follow that curve but we're trying to play it a little bit safer um but i don't know whatever's going on with those back three cylinders could potentially be something as to why the last engine blew up so not sure why but we're gonna figure it out revisit that and we'll let you guys know um i think i'm gonna close this video out here but super appreciative to johann shulman getting this thing done freddie for coming out here tune in at wee hours of the night with his wee little legs and just absolutely putting them work to make sure that we have the best possible end result and to tie in and marco for letting us use their space as always it's very very much appreciated thanks bro so that's it i want to see you guys in the next video i'll actually be in california and i have some pretty cool stuff going on there so see you soon thank you\n"