MSI RX 5700 XT Evoke OC Review - Thermals & Noise vs. Sapphire Pulse
**The 1500 XD Evolve OC Review: A Mixed Bag**
Like always, we have more gain results it's just for something like this it's just it's not worth showing them because it's going to be the same I'll be saying the same thing over and over for every charge which is it's like 1.5 - 2 point 1 to point 2 percent different from a pollster, a reference model so all the games are like that that we tested and that's all you need to know about game everyone's thermally and acoustically this card is behind the curve versus the sapphire pulse, sapphire pulse is better than this one for acoustics and thermals especially noise normalized this card has if you let them all run completely default it does catch up a bit to the sapphire pulse it's better in two categories worse than two categories and that comes down to MSI running its fan speed faster higher rpm so louder and that's where you see the performance gains versus sapphires which tends to run a bit below 40 DBA one stock in our noise test and obviously DBA changes based on position of measurement things like that.
**Noise Comparison**
Noise for is 26 distance from the device under test this thing is 20 inches and it's in an open-air bench so they're all tested the same way they're directly comparable so this card's louder it's a bit hotter when they're noise normalized it's hotter than half of the categories when they left to run Auto and beyond that it's missing extra features like there's no dual BIOS on this one which would be really nice to have that was on sapphires we were sad to not see it on the reference card but sapphires got an edge there and then this one is a bit more expensive as well so really what you're paying for is is the color here and if that's your thing cool we won't judge you go ahead and do it but we don't have a firm price from MSI our understanding is it's supposed to be four hundred thirty dollars and the sapphire pulse is supposed to be four hundred and ten dollars but these cards aren't really widely available yet we've seen scarce availability and there was supposed to be everything available last week didn't really happen so maybe this week and they are starting to populate in some places but we don't know when there's gonna be wide availability of all the partner models and quantities that people can actually buy.
**Thermal Performance**
As of now for thermals and acoustics particularly when noise normalized like as in you run everything at about the same performance level and you don't just kind of let one brute force its way to the top with a louder fan we would go with the sapphire pulse recommendation over this it's cheaper it's better thermal and noise performance technically Emma size has better out of box gaming performance in that it's about 2% ahead, 1.5, 22.2% ahead of the pulse or the reference card there's it's really hard to care about a couple of FPS because that's kind of what it is so if you do cool but also you can overclock them all to the same level anyway so it's it's kind of a wash and it does come down to luck of the draw which is it's irrelevant which brand you buy luck of the draw on the quality the silicon is totally up in the air.
**The 1500 XD Evolve OC**
The 1500 XD Evolve OC has been overclocked that has a higher frequency on average than the pulse in the reference card it's got not a great cooler though we're disappointed in the cooler Emma size gaming acts cooler was really good in the era of about the 1080 Ti it was one of the best for noise normalized performance that we had tested for that generation the asus strix was better but was more expensive so the gaming ax was really good and this kind of fall short of that it's got some design elements got the fan size or pretty close to it anyway if not exactly but there are some changes and we'll explore those and the turnout of the cards to check back for that one.
**The Verdict**
Thanks for watching, subscribe for more go to patreon.com/scishow and access topside rectly or store documents access net if you'd like to pick up a shirt like this one one of our mod match for one of our GPU teardown toolkits I guess one final thing I'll say about this that I had forgotten is that in the very least it's better than reference so if you can't get the pulse where you live or it's out of stock basically forever where you are it's not you don't have to feel bad about buying this it's just not as good as the pulse especially the memory thermals but maybe that's something we can improve and it's hair down.
"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: entoday's review looks extensively at the thermals and noise of MSI's rx 5700 XT evoke OC card it's named OC because it has a higher stock clock than average and higher than some other partner models too although the actual overclocking performance for all of these cards is limited primarily by silicon quality and memory controller quality not really by PCB will be most heavily comparing the 5700 XT evoke to the Sapphire 5200 XC poles which performed accidentally and got our recommendation in the review the Evoque OC should cost around four hundred thirty dollars although the price isn't final that time of writing and that put it about ten to twenty dollars ahead of sapphires pricing or 30 / a.m. these reference card will go deep with thermal noise analysis today alongside some gaming performance to see if Emma sighs evoke OC is worth the extra money before that this video is brought to you by audible audible has a massive audio book library including content that talks computers and games audible has an entire series from the official Computer History Museum which we've actually toured in the past and can support as a leader in computer education audible also hosts the ultimate history of video games something I read back when researching GN content and can highly recommend for gaming and hardware enthusiasts audibles 30-day free trial can be unlocked at audible.com slash gamers Nexus or you can text gamers Nexus one word - 500 500 where you'll get a free audiobook and two audible originals or click the link in the description below MSI is really trying to make black and gold a thing they're trying pretty hard so we talked with them at Computex about this and basically they're pushing the change through things like the motherboards as well so you see the godlike and the Meg introduced the ACE rather to make ACE introducing some of the initial golden black concepts and other video cards are coming out with those as well so aside from the performance which we'll get to and it's obviously the most important aspect of this review the look side of things basically boils down to do you want a sort of champagne gold - coloured it's sort of gold not I don't know depends on your definition of gold champagne colored card in your computer mixed with maybe a golden black how much i motherboard and if you do well good luck finding other options than the Titan V but that's not really why we review cards it's just something we thought we'd point out cards is for the actual performance so things like build quality thermals and noise and to some extent gaming performance and that's we're gonna look at today we explained all this stuff in our sapphire pulse review but to really briefly recap it with these devices once you get down to where am these pushing the 57 or XD silicon there's not a ton more room out of the box of to poll performance it's maybe a couple of percent extra performance Headroom there that you can pull from a better cooler plus a pre overclock but beyond that there's not a ton of room for the board partners to do much now there's a little more room for manual overclock and you get a couple more percent on top of all that like maybe four or so but the board partners do have to limit the amount of the overclock to things they know will be universally stable and so they're not gonna push that far past each other so then what it boils down to is you shouldn't be buying these based off of who has the best FPS number because it's sort of irrelevant the max difference you see is maybe a couple percent as in like two maybe three if it's phenomenally different and that's versus the reference card to which the sapphire pulse is pretty close to so that if that's the max difference obviously one you can overclock them all to about the same level performance roughly the memory overclocking is completely luck of the draw it's based on memory bin based on memory controller quality it's things that are outside of both your control and basically out of the manufacturers control to these board partners they're not going to pick chips for these cards they're not selling for enough it's not worth it that's like kingpin level extra work you'd be doing so it comes down to you need to tune what you care about to be quality of the card is it actually well-built is it a good design what are the quality of life features things like that so that's what we're looking at today we will be tearing this card down separately in a different video if you want to see what constitutes the cooling performance that we're looking at today and how the why the acoustics and noise are the way they are that'll be in a teardown video separately so subscribe for that but let's get into the testing start with thermals at 40 DB a go through frequency fan curve and a couple of game numbers and then close that with thoughts based on price well start with noise normalized thermals as always we use noise normalize thermals to establish a measurement of performance as it relates to efficiency of the cooler just testing the cooler stock which we've done as well is sort of useful but it doesn't impose any controls and so a cooler could top the charts just by having the loudest fans and only showing thermals without any reference to noise would eliminate your ability to see which one's truly better we see this in CPU cooler reviews especially where some coolers run at 60 DBA and sort of when by default but no one realistically wants to use it like that instead we normalize the GPU coolers here to 40 DBA in a 26 DB room to establish the best cooler with the best efficiency the MSI evoke runs at about 1730 rpm when set to 40 DBA which is lower than its stock operating target the Sapphire card runs slightly below 40 DBA on average one stock so adjusting the 40 DBA gives it a slight performance improvement the first chart shows GPU edge and junction temperatures for this one the sapphire pulse that leads the charts with a 67 point one degree edge temperature and eighty-three point four degree Junction temperature contradicting AMD statement that 110 degree temperatures are expected something we explained separately the junction temperature shown here is the single hottest sensor on the die which can prove useful for illustrating a few things one Headroom and to the potential mounting issues that can arise from various cooler designs the msi evoke at 40 DB ends about sixty nine point eight degrees celsius edge and 87 degrees Celsius for Junction the Sapphire card is leading the pack here although we're close to our plus or minus one degree error the reference card at 40 DBA throttled frequency and sat at 110 degrees which is t.j.maxx and throttle point left alone and allowed to run at 51 DBA a full 10 DBA louder than the other coolers which against a logarithmic scale is significant in both acoustic power and perceived loudness the reference card still manages to be hotter at 95 degrees Celsius the next chart sticks to 40 DBA noise normalize thermals but instead shows the vrm MOSFET and vram temperatures MSI falls far behind here allowing sapphire a substantially both metrics the Sapphire polls measures at 82 degrees Celsius for the measured GT our sixth module at 40 DBA with the chosen MOSFET at 68 degrees Celsius Emma sighs Evoque OC measured ninety four point eight degrees 4g DDR six which is in our eyes in the territory of unacceptable thermals especially for an aftermarket cooler the MOSFET was at 81 degrees but this is acceptable and well below the specification for the MOSFETs maximum temperatures it's the memory that concerns us and indicates poor contact or a poor design on the cooler something we'll explore in our separate teardown video of the MSI 5700 axia VOC make sure you subscribe to catch that one because we'll look at why this is happening so pull some footage from our sapphire pulse teardown we can show that now the reason the card performs so well in vrm and vram thermals is because of its heatsink design sapphire built separate heat sinks into the base plate of the poles which are cleverly isolated from the GPU itself this means that the GPU memory and VRMs are isolated and split into two groups the GP is directly synched by the larger heatsink on top while the memory and vrm use a separate base plate and fins as their heat sink then benefit from the air that passes through the upper cooler because VRMs can tolerate a lot of heat this works well and the memory still gets enough direct airflow that it works out on sapphires card thus far sapphire is doing better in noise normalize testing frequency response is up next we measure in 3dmark fire strike extreme for this using a fixed workload for a 30-minute period without burnin and steady state the reference 5700 XT bounces the clock around between 1830 megahertz and 19 10 megahertz or so plus or minus a bit while sapphire ran closer to 1919 10 megahertz on average the MSI Evoque runs higher than that with the pre-launch PIOs peaking at about 1970 megahertz and average in about 1960 the Nuvi bios for retail availability brought frequency down in accordance with lowered fan speeds for reduced noise levels ended up at about nineteen fifty megahertz average this is significantly higher still than the reference card and boost about twenty to fifty megahertz even over sapphire depending on point of measurement we previously noticed that Sapphire gains over reference were irrelevant for gaming though so this may not matter and we'll look into that in a bit the next chart shows fan response to temperature V bios's programs to configure a set pan speed at a given temperature and ramp that speed depending on the GPU thermals for this card with their original V bios prior to the update we measured a GPU target temperature of about 67 degrees for the edge one left auto pushing the fan speed to about 2300 to 2400 rpm once we hit steady-state this is much louder than the 1730 rpm that 40 DBA requires on the cooler and so performance it looks better here he'll be it louder 2,300 2,400 rpm would put noise levels in the range of 47 DBA for reference with the updated V bios the one which will probably ship on retail cards measure fan rpm maxing closer to 2,000 rpm which is a market improvement in noise levels it does mean that clocks came down a bit shown earlier but noise is brought to about 43 to 44 DBA from 47 as reference we measure at 20 inches away from the video card because this is a reasonable difference distance for a user to sit from their system and it's pointed at the GPU the target GPU temperature seems to be about 68 degrees on the new V bios with a decreased frequency target this fits together for a quieter card that doesn't sacrifice too much frequency performance after all acoustic performance and quality of life are also critical for the final thermal chart we're looking at steady state thermals under full-auto conditions with no manual tuning at all this is with the newest retail v bios for the msi evoke in this instance all the things left to manage themselves msi does have a lower temperature target than sapphires TV bios options and runs more aggressive fan speeds even still GPU junction temperature isn't much different despite an edge temperature advantage of about 4 to 5 degrees and memory temperatures that are notably higher than sapphires theorem thermals are within reason although still higher in this testing the cards self managed so sapphire ends up quieter than amasai while performing better in two categories and worse than the other two although it's similarly for those two as for the gaming results it's not quite as boring as the Sapphire verses reference results but still relatively boring as a reminder overall you're choosing the card really based upon entirely the thermal and acoustic performance additional features might add extra value like dual V bio switches something the Sapphire card has and neither of these other two do but the biggest differentiator is acoustics and thermals particularly when normalized as seen in these gaming results there's just not much difference card to card for stock performance overclocking also ends up in about the same place for all of them as it's a silicon limitation not a card limitation or PCB limitation we didn't bother plotting an MSI OC here as always about the same as the Sapphire poles OC and frequency and memory is just based on the memory bin it's not a card thing so they're all about the same when overclocked other than the reference card we had issues with the Evoque lens at 72.7 FBS average one stock which has it about 2.4 percent ahead of the reference 5700 xt so do you want FPS average that's better than we saw before but this isn't enough to swing purchasing decisions in favor of one card or another f1 2018 at 1080p puts the Evoque at 154 FPS average which is about 2.1 percent ahead of the rx100 xt poles and similarly space from the RX with the 700 xt reference by AMD both at 152 151 FPS average this result again isn't much of a game changer when considering the deficit and thermals and acoustics and so ultimately after looking up those two you're looking at price to figure out which one to buy at 1440p the v700 xt evoke runs 118 FPS average with a low scaled appropriately as compared to the other 57 or xt s the pulse was at 116 FPS average so the game is about 2% 4k shows the Evoque at 70.8 FBS average leading the pulse is 69 point 4 FPS average by 2 percent once again and leading the 5,500 xt stock card by AMD similarly nothing spectacular this 1440p strange Brigade results as the last will show the evoke ends up at just 1.5 percent ahead here at 126 FPS average versus about 125 FPS average with lows all basically be the same between the evoke the pulse and the stock 5700 xt reference card by AMD that's the end of the testing like always we have more gain results it's just for something like this it's just it's not worth showing them because it's going to be the same I'll be saying the same thing over and over for every charge which is it's like 1.5 - 2 point 1 to point 2 percent different from a pollster a reference model so all the games are like that that we tested and that's all you need to know about game everyone's thermally and acoustically this card is behind the curve versus the sapphire pulse sapphire pulse is better than this one for acoustics and thermals especially noise normalized this card has if you let them all run completely default it does catch up a bit to the sapphire pulse it's better in two categories worse than two categories and that comes down to MSI running its fan speed faster higher rpm so louder and that's where you see the performance gains versus sapphires which tends to run a bit below 40 DBA one stock in our noise test and obviously DBA changes based on position of measurement things like that noise for is 26 distance from the device under test this thing is 20 inches and it's in an open-air bench so they're all tested the same way they're directly comparable so this card's louder it's a bit hotter when they're noise normalized it's hotter than half of the categories when they left to run Auto and beyond that it's missing extra features like there's no dual BIOS on this one which would be really nice to have that was on sapphires we were sad to not see it on the reference card but sapphires got an edge there and then this one is a bit more expensive as well so really what you're paying for is is the color here and if that's your thing cool we won't judge you go ahead and do it but we don't have a firm price from MSI our understanding is it's supposed to be four hundred thirty dollars and the sapphire pulse is supposed to be four hundred and ten dollars but these cards aren't really widely available yet we've seen scarce availability and there was supposed to be everything available last week didn't really happen so maybe this week and they are starting to populate in some places but we don't know when there's gonna be wide availability of all the partner models and quantities that people can actually buy so as of now for thermals and acoustics particularly when noise normalized like as in you run everything at about the same performance level and you don't just kind of let one brute force its way to the top with a louder fan we would go with the sapphire pulse recommendation over this it's cheaper it's better thermal and noise performance technically Emma size of O Cosi has better out of box gaming performance in that it's about 2% ahead 1.5 22.2% ahead of the pulse or the reference card there's it's really hard to care about a couple of FPS because that's kind of what it is so if you do cool but also you can overclock them all to the same level anyway so it's it's kind of a wash and it does come down to luck of the draw which is it's irrelevant which brand you buy luck of the draw on the quality the silicon is totally up in the air so that's it that's the 1500 XD evoke OC review it is in fact overclocked that has a higher frequency on average than the pulse in the reference card it's got not a great cooler though we're disappointed in the cooler Emma size gaming acts cooler was really good in the era of about the 1080 Ti it was one of the best for noise normalized performance that we had tested for that generation the asus strix was better but was more expensive so the gaming ax was really good and this kind of fall short of that it's got some design elements got the fan size or pretty close to it anyway if not exactly but there are some changes and we'll explore those and the turnout of the cards to check back for that one thanks for watching subscribe for more go to patreon.com/scishow and access topside rectly or store documents access net if you'd like to pick up a shirt like this one one of our mod match for one of our GPU teardown toolkits I guess one final thing I'll say about this that I had forgotten is that in the very least it's better than reference so if you can't get the pulse where you live or it's out of stock basically forever where you are it's not you don't have to feel bad about buying this it's just not as good as the pulse especially the memory thermals but maybe that's something we can improve and it's hair down so thanks for watching I'll see you all next timetoday's review looks extensively at the thermals and noise of MSI's rx 5700 XT evoke OC card it's named OC because it has a higher stock clock than average and higher than some other partner models too although the actual overclocking performance for all of these cards is limited primarily by silicon quality and memory controller quality not really by PCB will be most heavily comparing the 5700 XT evoke to the Sapphire 5200 XC poles which performed accidentally and got our recommendation in the review the Evoque OC should cost around four hundred thirty dollars although the price isn't final that time of writing and that put it about ten to twenty dollars ahead of sapphires pricing or 30 / a.m. these reference card will go deep with thermal noise analysis today alongside some gaming performance to see if Emma sighs evoke OC is worth the extra money before that this video is brought to you by audible audible has a massive audio book library including content that talks computers and games audible has an entire series from the official Computer History Museum which we've actually toured in the past and can support as a leader in computer education audible also hosts the ultimate history of video games something I read back when researching GN content and can highly recommend for gaming and hardware enthusiasts audibles 30-day free trial can be unlocked at audible.com slash gamers Nexus or you can text gamers Nexus one word - 500 500 where you'll get a free audiobook and two audible originals or click the link in the description below MSI is really trying to make black and gold a thing they're trying pretty hard so we talked with them at Computex about this and basically they're pushing the change through things like the motherboards as well so you see the godlike and the Meg introduced the ACE rather to make ACE introducing some of the initial golden black concepts and other video cards are coming out with those as well so aside from the performance which we'll get to and it's obviously the most important aspect of this review the look side of things basically boils down to do you want a sort of champagne gold - coloured it's sort of gold not I don't know depends on your definition of gold champagne colored card in your computer mixed with maybe a golden black how much i motherboard and if you do well good luck finding other options than the Titan V but that's not really why we review cards it's just something we thought we'd point out cards is for the actual performance so things like build quality thermals and noise and to some extent gaming performance and that's we're gonna look at today we explained all this stuff in our sapphire pulse review but to really briefly recap it with these devices once you get down to where am these pushing the 57 or XD silicon there's not a ton more room out of the box of to poll performance it's maybe a couple of percent extra performance Headroom there that you can pull from a better cooler plus a pre overclock but beyond that there's not a ton of room for the board partners to do much now there's a little more room for manual overclock and you get a couple more percent on top of all that like maybe four or so but the board partners do have to limit the amount of the overclock to things they know will be universally stable and so they're not gonna push that far past each other so then what it boils down to is you shouldn't be buying these based off of who has the best FPS number because it's sort of irrelevant the max difference you see is maybe a couple percent as in like two maybe three if it's phenomenally different and that's versus the reference card to which the sapphire pulse is pretty close to so that if that's the max difference obviously one you can overclock them all to about the same level performance roughly the memory overclocking is completely luck of the draw it's based on memory bin based on memory controller quality it's things that are outside of both your control and basically out of the manufacturers control to these board partners they're not going to pick chips for these cards they're not selling for enough it's not worth it that's like kingpin level extra work you'd be doing so it comes down to you need to tune what you care about to be quality of the card is it actually well-built is it a good design what are the quality of life features things like that so that's what we're looking at today we will be tearing this card down separately in a different video if you want to see what constitutes the cooling performance that we're looking at today and how the why the acoustics and noise are the way they are that'll be in a teardown video separately so subscribe for that but let's get into the testing start with thermals at 40 DB a go through frequency fan curve and a couple of game numbers and then close that with thoughts based on price well start with noise normalized thermals as always we use noise normalize thermals to establish a measurement of performance as it relates to efficiency of the cooler just testing the cooler stock which we've done as well is sort of useful but it doesn't impose any controls and so a cooler could top the charts just by having the loudest fans and only showing thermals without any reference to noise would eliminate your ability to see which one's truly better we see this in CPU cooler reviews especially where some coolers run at 60 DBA and sort of when by default but no one realistically wants to use it like that instead we normalize the GPU coolers here to 40 DBA in a 26 DB room to establish the best cooler with the best efficiency the MSI evoke runs at about 1730 rpm when set to 40 DBA which is lower than its stock operating target the Sapphire card runs slightly below 40 DBA on average one stock so adjusting the 40 DBA gives it a slight performance improvement the first chart shows GPU edge and junction temperatures for this one the sapphire pulse that leads the charts with a 67 point one degree edge temperature and eighty-three point four degree Junction temperature contradicting AMD statement that 110 degree temperatures are expected something we explained separately the junction temperature shown here is the single hottest sensor on the die which can prove useful for illustrating a few things one Headroom and to the potential mounting issues that can arise from various cooler designs the msi evoke at 40 DB ends about sixty nine point eight degrees celsius edge and 87 degrees Celsius for Junction the Sapphire card is leading the pack here although we're close to our plus or minus one degree error the reference card at 40 DBA throttled frequency and sat at 110 degrees which is t.j.maxx and throttle point left alone and allowed to run at 51 DBA a full 10 DBA louder than the other coolers which against a logarithmic scale is significant in both acoustic power and perceived loudness the reference card still manages to be hotter at 95 degrees Celsius the next chart sticks to 40 DBA noise normalize thermals but instead shows the vrm MOSFET and vram temperatures MSI falls far behind here allowing sapphire a substantially both metrics the Sapphire polls measures at 82 degrees Celsius for the measured GT our sixth module at 40 DBA with the chosen MOSFET at 68 degrees Celsius Emma sighs Evoque OC measured ninety four point eight degrees 4g DDR six which is in our eyes in the territory of unacceptable thermals especially for an aftermarket cooler the MOSFET was at 81 degrees but this is acceptable and well below the specification for the MOSFETs maximum temperatures it's the memory that concerns us and indicates poor contact or a poor design on the cooler something we'll explore in our separate teardown video of the MSI 5700 axia VOC make sure you subscribe to catch that one because we'll look at why this is happening so pull some footage from our sapphire pulse teardown we can show that now the reason the card performs so well in vrm and vram thermals is because of its heatsink design sapphire built separate heat sinks into the base plate of the poles which are cleverly isolated from the GPU itself this means that the GPU memory and VRMs are isolated and split into two groups the GP is directly synched by the larger heatsink on top while the memory and vrm use a separate base plate and fins as their heat sink then benefit from the air that passes through the upper cooler because VRMs can tolerate a lot of heat this works well and the memory still gets enough direct airflow that it works out on sapphires card thus far sapphire is doing better in noise normalize testing frequency response is up next we measure in 3dmark fire strike extreme for this using a fixed workload for a 30-minute period without burnin and steady state the reference 5700 XT bounces the clock around between 1830 megahertz and 19 10 megahertz or so plus or minus a bit while sapphire ran closer to 1919 10 megahertz on average the MSI Evoque runs higher than that with the pre-launch PIOs peaking at about 1970 megahertz and average in about 1960 the Nuvi bios for retail availability brought frequency down in accordance with lowered fan speeds for reduced noise levels ended up at about nineteen fifty megahertz average this is significantly higher still than the reference card and boost about twenty to fifty megahertz even over sapphire depending on point of measurement we previously noticed that Sapphire gains over reference were irrelevant for gaming though so this may not matter and we'll look into that in a bit the next chart shows fan response to temperature V bios's programs to configure a set pan speed at a given temperature and ramp that speed depending on the GPU thermals for this card with their original V bios prior to the update we measured a GPU target temperature of about 67 degrees for the edge one left auto pushing the fan speed to about 2300 to 2400 rpm once we hit steady-state this is much louder than the 1730 rpm that 40 DBA requires on the cooler and so performance it looks better here he'll be it louder 2,300 2,400 rpm would put noise levels in the range of 47 DBA for reference with the updated V bios the one which will probably ship on retail cards measure fan rpm maxing closer to 2,000 rpm which is a market improvement in noise levels it does mean that clocks came down a bit shown earlier but noise is brought to about 43 to 44 DBA from 47 as reference we measure at 20 inches away from the video card because this is a reasonable difference distance for a user to sit from their system and it's pointed at the GPU the target GPU temperature seems to be about 68 degrees on the new V bios with a decreased frequency target this fits together for a quieter card that doesn't sacrifice too much frequency performance after all acoustic performance and quality of life are also critical for the final thermal chart we're looking at steady state thermals under full-auto conditions with no manual tuning at all this is with the newest retail v bios for the msi evoke in this instance all the things left to manage themselves msi does have a lower temperature target than sapphires TV bios options and runs more aggressive fan speeds even still GPU junction temperature isn't much different despite an edge temperature advantage of about 4 to 5 degrees and memory temperatures that are notably higher than sapphires theorem thermals are within reason although still higher in this testing the cards self managed so sapphire ends up quieter than amasai while performing better in two categories and worse than the other two although it's similarly for those two as for the gaming results it's not quite as boring as the Sapphire verses reference results but still relatively boring as a reminder overall you're choosing the card really based upon entirely the thermal and acoustic performance additional features might add extra value like dual V bio switches something the Sapphire card has and neither of these other two do but the biggest differentiator is acoustics and thermals particularly when normalized as seen in these gaming results there's just not much difference card to card for stock performance overclocking also ends up in about the same place for all of them as it's a silicon limitation not a card limitation or PCB limitation we didn't bother plotting an MSI OC here as always about the same as the Sapphire poles OC and frequency and memory is just based on the memory bin it's not a card thing so they're all about the same when overclocked other than the reference card we had issues with the Evoque lens at 72.7 FBS average one stock which has it about 2.4 percent ahead of the reference 5700 xt so do you want FPS average that's better than we saw before but this isn't enough to swing purchasing decisions in favor of one card or another f1 2018 at 1080p puts the Evoque at 154 FPS average which is about 2.1 percent ahead of the rx100 xt poles and similarly space from the RX with the 700 xt reference by AMD both at 152 151 FPS average this result again isn't much of a game changer when considering the deficit and thermals and acoustics and so ultimately after looking up those two you're looking at price to figure out which one to buy at 1440p the v700 xt evoke runs 118 FPS average with a low scaled appropriately as compared to the other 57 or xt s the pulse was at 116 FPS average so the game is about 2% 4k shows the Evoque at 70.8 FBS average leading the pulse is 69 point 4 FPS average by 2 percent once again and leading the 5,500 xt stock card by AMD similarly nothing spectacular this 1440p strange Brigade results as the last will show the evoke ends up at just 1.5 percent ahead here at 126 FPS average versus about 125 FPS average with lows all basically be the same between the evoke the pulse and the stock 5700 xt reference card by AMD that's the end of the testing like always we have more gain results it's just for something like this it's just it's not worth showing them because it's going to be the same I'll be saying the same thing over and over for every charge which is it's like 1.5 - 2 point 1 to point 2 percent different from a pollster a reference model so all the games are like that that we tested and that's all you need to know about game everyone's thermally and acoustically this card is behind the curve versus the sapphire pulse sapphire pulse is better than this one for acoustics and thermals especially noise normalized this card has if you let them all run completely default it does catch up a bit to the sapphire pulse it's better in two categories worse than two categories and that comes down to MSI running its fan speed faster higher rpm so louder and that's where you see the performance gains versus sapphires which tends to run a bit below 40 DBA one stock in our noise test and obviously DBA changes based on position of measurement things like that noise for is 26 distance from the device under test this thing is 20 inches and it's in an open-air bench so they're all tested the same way they're directly comparable so this card's louder it's a bit hotter when they're noise normalized it's hotter than half of the categories when they left to run Auto and beyond that it's missing extra features like there's no dual BIOS on this one which would be really nice to have that was on sapphires we were sad to not see it on the reference card but sapphires got an edge there and then this one is a bit more expensive as well so really what you're paying for is is the color here and if that's your thing cool we won't judge you go ahead and do it but we don't have a firm price from MSI our understanding is it's supposed to be four hundred thirty dollars and the sapphire pulse is supposed to be four hundred and ten dollars but these cards aren't really widely available yet we've seen scarce availability and there was supposed to be everything available last week didn't really happen so maybe this week and they are starting to populate in some places but we don't know when there's gonna be wide availability of all the partner models and quantities that people can actually buy so as of now for thermals and acoustics particularly when noise normalized like as in you run everything at about the same performance level and you don't just kind of let one brute force its way to the top with a louder fan we would go with the sapphire pulse recommendation over this it's cheaper it's better thermal and noise performance technically Emma size of O Cosi has better out of box gaming performance in that it's about 2% ahead 1.5 22.2% ahead of the pulse or the reference card there's it's really hard to care about a couple of FPS because that's kind of what it is so if you do cool but also you can overclock them all to the same level anyway so it's it's kind of a wash and it does come down to luck of the draw which is it's irrelevant which brand you buy luck of the draw on the quality the silicon is totally up in the air so that's it that's the 1500 XD evoke OC review it is in fact overclocked that has a higher frequency on average than the pulse in the reference card it's got not a great cooler though we're disappointed in the cooler Emma size gaming acts cooler was really good in the era of about the 1080 Ti it was one of the best for noise normalized performance that we had tested for that generation the asus strix was better but was more expensive so the gaming ax was really good and this kind of fall short of that it's got some design elements got the fan size or pretty close to it anyway if not exactly but there are some changes and we'll explore those and the turnout of the cards to check back for that one thanks for watching subscribe for more go to patreon.com/scishow and access topside rectly or store documents access net if you'd like to pick up a shirt like this one one of our mod match for one of our GPU teardown toolkits I guess one final thing I'll say about this that I had forgotten is that in the very least it's better than reference so if you can't get the pulse where you live or it's out of stock basically forever where you are it's not you don't have to feel bad about buying this it's just not as good as the pulse especially the memory thermals but maybe that's something we can improve and it's hair down so thanks for watching I'll see you all next time\n"