**Building with the AMD Ryzen 7 7700X and ASRock X670E Taichi Motherboard**

Remember to take the black plastic protector off before starting your build process. The process is straightforward, but it's essential to follow each step carefully to avoid any potential damage or issues.

Next, we need to power on our system. This involves connecting the power cord to the motherboard and the power supply unit (PSU). I've chosen a Coolermaster V850 Gold ATX PSU with a 3 PCI Gen 5 power connector, which will make managing my system easy and convenient. The gold accents may not fit perfectly with the build's theme, but they'll be hidden away, making it an affordable option.

As we continue with the build, I want to add some RGB fans to accentuate our system's design. I've chosen white Corsair QL fans that will go behind the GPU, adding a nice touch of color and visual appeal to the overall build. Finally, let's pop in the motherboard stand-offs and secure everything in place.

**Cockpit of Our System**

Now that we have all the necessary components installed, let's take a look at our system's performance. First, I'll run some synthetic CPU benchmarks to get an idea of how well our Ryzen 7 7700X will perform.

In Cinebench R23, our system achieved a multicore score of 24743, which is higher than the Ryzen 7 5700X from last generation but not significantly so. The result was similar in Cinebench R23 Single Thread 2, with our system beating out the Ryzen 7 5700X and other competitors by tiny margins.

Next up, we have 3D Mark CPU Profile, where our system impressively beat out chips like the AMD Ryzen 9 5900X and the Intel Core i5-13600K from last generation. However, these results may not be particularly exciting, as they're relatively close to what we'd expect from a mid-to-high-end CPU.

Finally, let's run some synthetic benchmarks with 3D Mark Times by Extreme. Our system achieved an impressive score of 8000, which is up about 200 points from the Ryzen 7 5700X.

**Gaming Performance**

Now that we have our system fully built and tested, it's time to put it through its paces in some popular games. I'll start with Starfield at 1440p High, where our system pulled in an impressive 87 FPS. This is not bad considering how difficult this game can be to run.

Next up, I have Hogwarts Legacy at 1440p High, which performed similarly well. Our system achieved a strong average of 112 FPS with consistent results throughout the game.

Moving on to Warzone 2 at 1440p High with DLSS set to Quality, our system delivered an impressive 146 FPS. This is a significant improvement over the AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT and other competitors in this segment.

In Fortnite at 1080p Competitive, we achieved a respectable 295 FPS, which is barely playable but shows that our system can handle high refresh rates without issues.

Apex Legends at 1440p High delivered an average of 200 FPS on average, with no complaints about the performance or frame rate. Finally, I have F1 2023 at 1440p Ultra High Settings, where our system delivered a smooth 172 FPS on average.

**Conclusion**

While the AMD Ryzen 7 7700X is not particularly different from its predecessor, it's still a solid CPU that can deliver good performance in most applications. Our build with the ASRock X670E Taichi motherboard, 47 Ti GPU, and other components has proven to be a capable and powerful system that can handle demanding tasks like gaming and content creation.

As always, I'll leave all the parts that make this build possible at the first links in the description below if you enjoyed this one. Don't forget to subscribe for more build guides, reviews, and tutorials. We'll see you in the next article!

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enwhat is up guys welcome back to another geeka video in this one I'm going to be testing Intel's latest whoa uh mid-range CPU this is the I5 14600 K the CPU that Intel have released in aim of battling off ryzen 7000 lineup and hopefully providing Great Value mid-range performance once again let's do that Intel's 14th journe is unique in the sense that it's one of the first Intel CPUs in a very long time to be the third refresh of a single architecture normally we see a new architecture a new socket roll out and that will generally last for two generations on the Intel side of things take 10th and 11th gen as an example then we had 12th and 13th gen normally we'd now expect a different socket with something that's a little bit more from the ground up this reuses the same socket meaning existing z790 motherboards and even Z 690 designs are going to be compatible with a bios update and means those with existing builds can upgrade their CPU without the headache that usually comes with a whole new generation but of course this more refreshed approach to 14th gen also has its downsides gains are mainly focused around clock speed and pushing chips further than ever something that can be great for gaming performance but doesn't quite provide a revolutionary change in performance like we saw with ryzen 7000 versus ryzen 5000 as an example it also means as a byproduct these chips do run hot or more that you have to have good cooling to get the most out of the CPUs more so than we've seen in previous generations but we're going to take a deep dive into the performance how we can optimize the I5 and whether it's worth it crucially compared to its Rising Alternatives a little bit later for now let's have a look at the other parts that make this build possible and I've gone for something slightly unique it's an all white build for today's video you wouldn't think this board was white from the box but I promise you when you open it up wow that's a cool looking motherboard right this is the z790 aurus Pro X and I have to say if z790 refresh boards weren't that exciting this certainly does a good job of doing something that little bit different not only does this board look visually stunning but we obviously get our G 5 mvme supports with these cool sort of toolless release mechanisms for the heat sinks and the drives themselves the fact you can take that off with one notch is incredible fully white PCB it's kind white and light gray in some areas your Wi-Fi is included chipset coolant down the bottom here and then as far as the io goes this is super impressive we've got Wi-Fi 7 which is the latest Wi-Fi standard it's rapid fast we've also then got loads of USB 3.2sources that is a stunning motherboard now I am going to install the CP but first I just want to talk about the graphics card as I've obviously gone for a matching setup that is going to look awesome you might think 70 TI Why have you gone for that particular graphics card against the backdrop of Fallen AMD GPU prices across the board on the Nvidia side there are not many 40 series cards I would actually recommend the 4070 is outperformed by the 6800 XT for less money the 480 by the 7900 XT and the 7600 is just a bit of a peuler one really and the RTX 460 as well we all know how that launch went either way though the 470 TI thankfully misses out on some of these criticisms originally branded as like a more basic version of the RTX 480 with slightly less vram you get lots of rasterization Firepower amazing dss3 and R ring performance that's an area that Nvidia seriously do went out over AMD and 12 gigs of vram so 1440p and even 4K gaming are both plausible on this card now and into the future I'm making an absolute mess of getting this plastic off and the cooler looks amazing this is the gigabyte Arrow model and I really really like it silver back play there's more peels oh beautiful really really like it three fans good cool in and the aesthetic which as you can see is going to look absolutely incredible now don't need any of that nonsense instead going to move on to the CPU with 14 cores six performance eight efficiency and 20 threads core and thread counts are unchanged from the previous generation 13 600k however what we do get is more clock speed higher boost clocks on this CPU mean as long as you can keep it fairly cool you shouldn't have too many problems unlocking better single thread single core performance Ram is going to be next I've picked up this nice kit a Vengeance ddr5 from Corsair can't go too far wrong with Corsair memory it's good value it looks quite nice very very widely available I'll link latest pricing and availability for everything mentioned today down at the links below you'll be able to find Amazon and Newegg compare the prices to your heart's content if this is a build you happen to want to set up yourself there we go that's in make sure that's all nicely clicked it's looking good already SSD is next now I have selected the Samsung SSD 990 Pro if you watch a lot of geot videos you'll probably think James didn't you use the 990 Pro last time and then a video a few weeks ago and then a video a few weeks before that and the answer would be yes I have because it's so good value and so strong when it comes to Performance metrics it's actually often cheaper than the 980 Pro which leads me to believe this is more of a 980 Pro replacement than it is a higher spec option this is where gigabyte fancy tooless method comes in this is really really impressive I'm incredibly impressed with what gigabyte have done here I really really think it's something that we just haven't seen from many other brands recently it's a real nice piece of innovation so the SSD itself secures with one toolless method then the cover goes back on there we go get it lined up is that lined up there we go bit of pressure that's it how long did that that take me 10 seconds no little screws ah the best implementation I've ever seen of a tallest SSD method now maybe that shows there's not loads to get excited about z790 when that is the standout feature but it's a pretty cool standout feature anyway before I move this motherboard assembly into the case I am going to do some cooler prep and I have selected the Corsair IQ h15 Elite capellic XT now I'll save my criticisms of Intel 14th gen for a little bit later so bear with me or skip to them using the time stamps below but if there's one one thing you really need to pay attention to with this generation it is cooling we saw dramatic differences of performance particularly on the I9 but on the i52 when run in with higher and lower power coolers in fact the I9 failed to hit the Boost clock speed that Intel advertise with a 360 mil high-end all-in-one liquid cooler where the fans running super quick the pump was on Max we actually had to not up to a 420 mil AIO cooler on the 14900 K to see the right boost performance and an increase subsequently in rendering performance on the multi core over the 13900 K so so to be aware of and we're going to be proactive for this build 360 mil rad spend the extra $40 I promise you it is worth it now that's enough selling 360 mil coolers to you going to prep some mounting hardware so inside the cooler you'll find four post like this and also an Intel LGA back plate now this is going to go behind each of these four holes with the post screwing on top this will provide the mounting bases to actually add the cooler on a little bit later and then going to move this to one side because it's H time I have gone for this the height y40 now in many respects this height y40 is a bit of an underdog in the height range the y60 is the real star of the show but this thing is actually quite a nice mid Tower I think compared to a lot of mid Towers on the market it's actually better easier to build it and a bit more flexible there are certainly cheaper options out there for sure and the y60 is a nice upgrade if you're willing to spend that bit more money but it is quite a bit more money so this is going to work perfectly for the build today the only major thing to note with this case is is about the air flow you've got to be careful how you optimize it you do get the intake fans at the bottom but because the power supply is there it's kind of a little bit redundant therefore you'll want to use these as your intake fans at the side with the radiator in exhaust at the top that's going to ensure we have enough airf flow and temperature stay low move out the vertical GPU Mount and then lay the case down flat for the next step then the motherboard is going to slide in now looking at things all the standoffs appear to be in the right locations meaning it should just be a case of carefully sliding the motherboard in l it all up oh look at that nine screws to go in three at the top three down the middle three down at the bottom and the motherboard will be secured into place I could also add in at this stage the PCI extension piece it looks like going to go in the second slot so I will need to do a bit of Shifting around of PCI lanes and stuff while I screw the motherboard in but it's all going to go in a okay without too many problems while the case is flat I'm also going to pop in the CPU Cooler that's going to go at the top so hopefully a quick tooless removal there we are lovely of the top panel and the 360 mil rad will go up here in in exhaust mode it's the only place we can actually secure a 360 mil rad in this case which is why I'm installing it where I am fans going to go on the inside of the case for the best air flow and also because they look a lot better that way water block goes on at the end four thumb screws to fasten down and it's basically done really really quite simple corsera one of the easiest Brands generally to install as far as aios go especially on the Intel platform the graphics card is then the next part of the build and I'm I'm so excited I can't wait to see how this thing looks now as you can see one of the trademark features is this the vertical GPU Mount as standard Let Me Line the card up oh remember to take the black plastic protector off oh here we go come on come on you beauty oh my word couple of things left to do obviously power and stuff like that but I think also we need to go ahead and put the RGB fans in here they're the white Corsair ql fans that will go behind the GPU just to Accent every then make things look a bit more kind of within the white color scheme but so far so good the final bit then to pop in is the power supply I've picked up this coola master v850 I gold atx3 PCI Gen 5 power connector making C management for our 47 TTI in white nice and easy and I'm also going to add in some cheap easy DIY FB cable extensions for good measure because for $25 it makes the whole build tie in that little bit better nice compact standard ATX power supply the gold accents don't really fit with the build but it will be hidden away meaning we haven't got a splurge on a more expensive white or sleeker designed unit look at that isn't that a sight to behold fed intake here fed exhaust at the top one an intake at the bottom what a beauty we need to see how well the I5 performs let's see how good this thing looks though in a gek montage first of all and I'll rejoin you in just a few seconds as far as performance goes I'm going to start by looking looking at some synthetic CPU specific benchmarks then working through to the gaming performance of this build to properly evaluate the 14600 K in C bench R23 we achieved a multicore score of 24743 this was higher than the 13600 K of last generation but not particularly by enough to write home about anytime soon the result was similar in cinebench R23 single thread 2 with the 14 600k beaten out the I5 13 600k and not much else in 's 13th and 14th gen always look strong when it comes to our benchmarks and again the 14th gen I5 is not a bad chip it's just not particularly different from the 13th gen chip that it's supposed to replace in 3D Mark CPU profile this was once again a similar story we impressively beat out chips like the 5900 X ryzen processor as one example and of course the I5 from lash gen but only by tiny margins and certainly not enough to Warrant this cpu's price tag over its predecessor competitors couple of final synthetic benchmarks 3D marks Times by extreme again 8,000 was the score here that was up am easily 200 if that from the Lash gen I5 13600 K while 3D marks fire strike is a similar story hardly anything you're going to be excited about anytime soon and that I think is the biggest problem with these CPUs it's not that they're bad CPUs they're just not particularly new and why would you buy these when you could buy an i5 13 600k and save yourself a bit of cash if they are pretty lightful like on price and you decide the 14th gen is the way to go how does it perform with the 47 TTI in this build well I tested out Starfield first of all and was pleasantly surprised 1440p High and the build pulled in 87 FPS not bad really when you consider how difficult this game is to run Hogwarts Legacy at 1440p high again performed well 112 FPS on average with strong 90 and 99 percenti results war zone 2 1440p high with dlss set to quality dlss of course the main advantage of a card like the 47 TI over its AMD competition and the build achieved just shy of 146 FPS 134 and 126 for the 1990 and 99 percentiles show consistent frame rates throughout and I was pretty impressed with the gaming performance of this build fortnite 1080p competitive is the similar story 295 FPS at basically 1080p low except the render distance which is obviously tuned to far to ensure the most competitive visual experience and maximize the frame rate Apex Legends at 1440p high in the build achieved 200 141 FPS on average once again pretty good no complaints here whatsoever while the latest edition of F1 the 2023 title at 1440p ultra high settings delivered 172 FPS on average the I5 14600 k then not a bad CPU but just because it's got a bigger number than the 13600 K doesn't mean it's exactly better a disappointing launch but a solid build and I'll leave all the parts that make this build possible at the first links in the description below if you enjoyed this one make sure to get subscribe thanks for watching and as always we'll see you in the next onewhat is up guys welcome back to another geeka video in this one I'm going to be testing Intel's latest whoa uh mid-range CPU this is the I5 14600 K the CPU that Intel have released in aim of battling off ryzen 7000 lineup and hopefully providing Great Value mid-range performance once again let's do that Intel's 14th journe is unique in the sense that it's one of the first Intel CPUs in a very long time to be the third refresh of a single architecture normally we see a new architecture a new socket roll out and that will generally last for two generations on the Intel side of things take 10th and 11th gen as an example then we had 12th and 13th gen normally we'd now expect a different socket with something that's a little bit more from the ground up this reuses the same socket meaning existing z790 motherboards and even Z 690 designs are going to be compatible with a bios update and means those with existing builds can upgrade their CPU without the headache that usually comes with a whole new generation but of course this more refreshed approach to 14th gen also has its downsides gains are mainly focused around clock speed and pushing chips further than ever something that can be great for gaming performance but doesn't quite provide a revolutionary change in performance like we saw with ryzen 7000 versus ryzen 5000 as an example it also means as a byproduct these chips do run hot or more that you have to have good cooling to get the most out of the CPUs more so than we've seen in previous generations but we're going to take a deep dive into the performance how we can optimize the I5 and whether it's worth it crucially compared to its Rising Alternatives a little bit later for now let's have a look at the other parts that make this build possible and I've gone for something slightly unique it's an all white build for today's video you wouldn't think this board was white from the box but I promise you when you open it up wow that's a cool looking motherboard right this is the z790 aurus Pro X and I have to say if z790 refresh boards weren't that exciting this certainly does a good job of doing something that little bit different not only does this board look visually stunning but we obviously get our G 5 mvme supports with these cool sort of toolless release mechanisms for the heat sinks and the drives themselves the fact you can take that off with one notch is incredible fully white PCB it's kind white and light gray in some areas your Wi-Fi is included chipset coolant down the bottom here and then as far as the io goes this is super impressive we've got Wi-Fi 7 which is the latest Wi-Fi standard it's rapid fast we've also then got loads of USB 3.2sources that is a stunning motherboard now I am going to install the CP but first I just want to talk about the graphics card as I've obviously gone for a matching setup that is going to look awesome you might think 70 TI Why have you gone for that particular graphics card against the backdrop of Fallen AMD GPU prices across the board on the Nvidia side there are not many 40 series cards I would actually recommend the 4070 is outperformed by the 6800 XT for less money the 480 by the 7900 XT and the 7600 is just a bit of a peuler one really and the RTX 460 as well we all know how that launch went either way though the 470 TI thankfully misses out on some of these criticisms originally branded as like a more basic version of the RTX 480 with slightly less vram you get lots of rasterization Firepower amazing dss3 and R ring performance that's an area that Nvidia seriously do went out over AMD and 12 gigs of vram so 1440p and even 4K gaming are both plausible on this card now and into the future I'm making an absolute mess of getting this plastic off and the cooler looks amazing this is the gigabyte Arrow model and I really really like it silver back play there's more peels oh beautiful really really like it three fans good cool in and the aesthetic which as you can see is going to look absolutely incredible now don't need any of that nonsense instead going to move on to the CPU with 14 cores six performance eight efficiency and 20 threads core and thread counts are unchanged from the previous generation 13 600k however what we do get is more clock speed higher boost clocks on this CPU mean as long as you can keep it fairly cool you shouldn't have too many problems unlocking better single thread single core performance Ram is going to be next I've picked up this nice kit a Vengeance ddr5 from Corsair can't go too far wrong with Corsair memory it's good value it looks quite nice very very widely available I'll link latest pricing and availability for everything mentioned today down at the links below you'll be able to find Amazon and Newegg compare the prices to your heart's content if this is a build you happen to want to set up yourself there we go that's in make sure that's all nicely clicked it's looking good already SSD is next now I have selected the Samsung SSD 990 Pro if you watch a lot of geot videos you'll probably think James didn't you use the 990 Pro last time and then a video a few weeks ago and then a video a few weeks before that and the answer would be yes I have because it's so good value and so strong when it comes to Performance metrics it's actually often cheaper than the 980 Pro which leads me to believe this is more of a 980 Pro replacement than it is a higher spec option this is where gigabyte fancy tooless method comes in this is really really impressive I'm incredibly impressed with what gigabyte have done here I really really think it's something that we just haven't seen from many other brands recently it's a real nice piece of innovation so the SSD itself secures with one toolless method then the cover goes back on there we go get it lined up is that lined up there we go bit of pressure that's it how long did that that take me 10 seconds no little screws ah the best implementation I've ever seen of a tallest SSD method now maybe that shows there's not loads to get excited about z790 when that is the standout feature but it's a pretty cool standout feature anyway before I move this motherboard assembly into the case I am going to do some cooler prep and I have selected the Corsair IQ h15 Elite capellic XT now I'll save my criticisms of Intel 14th gen for a little bit later so bear with me or skip to them using the time stamps below but if there's one one thing you really need to pay attention to with this generation it is cooling we saw dramatic differences of performance particularly on the I9 but on the i52 when run in with higher and lower power coolers in fact the I9 failed to hit the Boost clock speed that Intel advertise with a 360 mil high-end all-in-one liquid cooler where the fans running super quick the pump was on Max we actually had to not up to a 420 mil AIO cooler on the 14900 K to see the right boost performance and an increase subsequently in rendering performance on the multi core over the 13900 K so so to be aware of and we're going to be proactive for this build 360 mil rad spend the extra $40 I promise you it is worth it now that's enough selling 360 mil coolers to you going to prep some mounting hardware so inside the cooler you'll find four post like this and also an Intel LGA back plate now this is going to go behind each of these four holes with the post screwing on top this will provide the mounting bases to actually add the cooler on a little bit later and then going to move this to one side because it's H time I have gone for this the height y40 now in many respects this height y40 is a bit of an underdog in the height range the y60 is the real star of the show but this thing is actually quite a nice mid Tower I think compared to a lot of mid Towers on the market it's actually better easier to build it and a bit more flexible there are certainly cheaper options out there for sure and the y60 is a nice upgrade if you're willing to spend that bit more money but it is quite a bit more money so this is going to work perfectly for the build today the only major thing to note with this case is is about the air flow you've got to be careful how you optimize it you do get the intake fans at the bottom but because the power supply is there it's kind of a little bit redundant therefore you'll want to use these as your intake fans at the side with the radiator in exhaust at the top that's going to ensure we have enough airf flow and temperature stay low move out the vertical GPU Mount and then lay the case down flat for the next step then the motherboard is going to slide in now looking at things all the standoffs appear to be in the right locations meaning it should just be a case of carefully sliding the motherboard in l it all up oh look at that nine screws to go in three at the top three down the middle three down at the bottom and the motherboard will be secured into place I could also add in at this stage the PCI extension piece it looks like going to go in the second slot so I will need to do a bit of Shifting around of PCI lanes and stuff while I screw the motherboard in but it's all going to go in a okay without too many problems while the case is flat I'm also going to pop in the CPU Cooler that's going to go at the top so hopefully a quick tooless removal there we are lovely of the top panel and the 360 mil rad will go up here in in exhaust mode it's the only place we can actually secure a 360 mil rad in this case which is why I'm installing it where I am fans going to go on the inside of the case for the best air flow and also because they look a lot better that way water block goes on at the end four thumb screws to fasten down and it's basically done really really quite simple corsera one of the easiest Brands generally to install as far as aios go especially on the Intel platform the graphics card is then the next part of the build and I'm I'm so excited I can't wait to see how this thing looks now as you can see one of the trademark features is this the vertical GPU Mount as standard Let Me Line the card up oh remember to take the black plastic protector off oh here we go come on come on you beauty oh my word couple of things left to do obviously power and stuff like that but I think also we need to go ahead and put the RGB fans in here they're the white Corsair ql fans that will go behind the GPU just to Accent every then make things look a bit more kind of within the white color scheme but so far so good the final bit then to pop in is the power supply I've picked up this coola master v850 I gold atx3 PCI Gen 5 power connector making C management for our 47 TTI in white nice and easy and I'm also going to add in some cheap easy DIY FB cable extensions for good measure because for $25 it makes the whole build tie in that little bit better nice compact standard ATX power supply the gold accents don't really fit with the build but it will be hidden away meaning we haven't got a splurge on a more expensive white or sleeker designed unit look at that isn't that a sight to behold fed intake here fed exhaust at the top one an intake at the bottom what a beauty we need to see how well the I5 performs let's see how good this thing looks though in a gek montage first of all and I'll rejoin you in just a few seconds as far as performance goes I'm going to start by looking looking at some synthetic CPU specific benchmarks then working through to the gaming performance of this build to properly evaluate the 14600 K in C bench R23 we achieved a multicore score of 24743 this was higher than the 13600 K of last generation but not particularly by enough to write home about anytime soon the result was similar in cinebench R23 single thread 2 with the 14 600k beaten out the I5 13 600k and not much else in 's 13th and 14th gen always look strong when it comes to our benchmarks and again the 14th gen I5 is not a bad chip it's just not particularly different from the 13th gen chip that it's supposed to replace in 3D Mark CPU profile this was once again a similar story we impressively beat out chips like the 5900 X ryzen processor as one example and of course the I5 from lash gen but only by tiny margins and certainly not enough to Warrant this cpu's price tag over its predecessor competitors couple of final synthetic benchmarks 3D marks Times by extreme again 8,000 was the score here that was up am easily 200 if that from the Lash gen I5 13600 K while 3D marks fire strike is a similar story hardly anything you're going to be excited about anytime soon and that I think is the biggest problem with these CPUs it's not that they're bad CPUs they're just not particularly new and why would you buy these when you could buy an i5 13 600k and save yourself a bit of cash if they are pretty lightful like on price and you decide the 14th gen is the way to go how does it perform with the 47 TTI in this build well I tested out Starfield first of all and was pleasantly surprised 1440p High and the build pulled in 87 FPS not bad really when you consider how difficult this game is to run Hogwarts Legacy at 1440p high again performed well 112 FPS on average with strong 90 and 99 percenti results war zone 2 1440p high with dlss set to quality dlss of course the main advantage of a card like the 47 TI over its AMD competition and the build achieved just shy of 146 FPS 134 and 126 for the 1990 and 99 percentiles show consistent frame rates throughout and I was pretty impressed with the gaming performance of this build fortnite 1080p competitive is the similar story 295 FPS at basically 1080p low except the render distance which is obviously tuned to far to ensure the most competitive visual experience and maximize the frame rate Apex Legends at 1440p high in the build achieved 200 141 FPS on average once again pretty good no complaints here whatsoever while the latest edition of F1 the 2023 title at 1440p ultra high settings delivered 172 FPS on average the I5 14600 k then not a bad CPU but just because it's got a bigger number than the 13600 K doesn't mean it's exactly better a disappointing launch but a solid build and I'll leave all the parts that make this build possible at the first links in the description below if you enjoyed this one make sure to get subscribe thanks for watching and as always we'll see you in the next one\n"