I think that they, they don't want the Trump campaign, Donald Trump, they have no way to respond substantively to the truth, to the facts that vice President Harris has built a coalition that is unlike any other we have ever seen, frankly, certainly in modern American history, maybe in American history writ large. And that is a coalition that includes people from, you know, the far left of the political spectrum, the people on the far right of the political spectrum, including many people who used to work for Donald Trump.

And the reason that we have all come together is not necessarily because we say we agree on every issue. We don't certainly. But we understand fundamentally that, the defense of the rule of law, the defense of our Constitution, those are the things that are at stake in this election. And Donald Trump doesn't have any way to explain this broad, again, unprecedented support that the vice president Harris is receiving.

And I would also say I am absolutely confident, having spent time with Vice President Harris, having talked to her, she really does, believe and understands, how important it is for her to govern as a president who unites us, as a president who listens to different perspectives and points of view, as a president who's going to do what's right for this country.

And you know, I hope that, that you guys play as much Donald Trump footage as you can, over the course of the next nine days or so. Because the more the American people see him, the more they remember, you know, we cannot have a president who is unstable and depraved, and cruel. And that's that's what Donald Trump proves himself to be every time he says things like that.

You mentioned how you don't you certainly don't agree with Kamala Harris on every issue or even most issues, in terms of the traditional political debates, of domestic politics, let's talk about abortion, which is a big issue, in this race. You are against abortion. You're pro-life. You supported Roe v Wade being overturned in 2022 last week at an event, with Kamala Harris.

You said you were deeply troubled by what you've watched happen in many Republican-led states since the Dobbs decision, in terms of the bans that the legislatures have put into place. Can you explain your view on this further? Yeah. And, well, what I would say is I'm not the only one who holds this view, but, I think that that and I certainly have talked to many of them.

You have pro-life women all across this country, who have been watching what's happened in places like Texas, in places like North Carolina, where since Roe was overturned, you've had laws put in place at the state level that are preventing women from getting lifesaving care. You have circumstances where, you know, women are faced with, you know, whatever sorts of emergencies, it might be, whether it's miscarriages and they require treatment, that, that aren't able to get that treatment, where you have doctors unsure of whether or not the kind of care that the woman needs may in fact be something that's been criminalized by state law.

And that's not acceptable. And I think that's where you have women who, like me, have been pro-life, who are saying no, this is what we've seen happen cannot stand, when you have the attorney general of the state of Texas suing to get access to the medical records of women who have sought abortions, but Donald Trump won't give us access to his own medical records. I mean, this is, we've crossed over into a situation that is, is bringing women together, uniting women who are pro-choice and pro-life behind Vice President Harris in defense of making sure that women have health care, lifesaving health care, care that they need so that they don't find themselves in a situation where either their own life is at risk, where they can't have babies in the future. You know, this is just simply, simply unsustainable.

Former Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enOver thepast months, Vice President KamalaHarris has appeared alongsideone political surrogate,perhaps perhapsmore than any other conservativeformer Republican lawmaker, formerCongresswoman LizCheney of Wyoming, who joins us now.Congresswoman, thank you so muchfor joining us.We have a lot to get to.But first,I just want to give you a chanceto respond to what you heardfrom Senator Manchin.He invoked you so many times,even though I nevermentioned your name once.Let you know.Jake, I think what we just watchedis, you know, what it looks likewhen someonehas got to go throughjust unbelievable contortions,to try to find a way to defend,defend the personthat that, you know, JD Vance himself.called America's Hitler.and and just so many, so many,just really stunning attacks.you know, look, attack me thatthat's that's fine.You can do thatall you want, butbut for JD Vance to be going after,you know, retiredFour-Star marine generalGold star father John Kelly.for him to be attacking and lashing outlike that, Vice President Pence,so many others, secretaries of defense,the former chiefsof staff, formernational security advisor.I mean, I think they understandthe Trump campaign,Donald Trump, JD Vance,they absolutely understandhow damaging it isfor the American peopleto seeall of these unprecedented,unprecedented,levels of senior officialsfrom the Trumpadministrationtelling the American peoplethat Donald Trump is unfit.And so,you know,they concoct these thingsthat are completely,divorced from anyany connection to the truth.to, to to lash out and attack.but but look,the American people understand,you know,to have these kinds of peoplelike General Kellycome out and speak publicly.You know,they know thatthat his core Donald Trump,he really has no conscience.They know that he's erratic.They know that he's chaotic.They know that he's cruel.and they'rethey're telling the American people that.And so it does take a lot of contortionsand a real desperation to,to try to convince people,that they shouldn'tlisten to those who knowDonald Trump best.And his argument,as you heardthere, was that,all of the Trump administrationofficials that I mentioned, from VicePresident Pence to General Milleyto General Mattis, to General McMaster,to a list of FarahGriffin toI mean, on and onand on, that every one of themopposes Trumpbecause they want to involvethe United States into foreign wars.And that was that was where he learned.And he said, absolutely.When I said,is that really what you're saying?Is that really your argument?and, what what did you make of that?I mean, look,the thereality of the situationthat we're facing is,that, you know,peoplethat have long been focusedon national security issues.people that,you know,look to Ronald Reaganas a guide and as an example, you know,we understand thatthe way that you avoid avoidwar is, in fact, peace through strength.And when you, you know, look at somethinglike what JD Vance and Donald Trumpwant to do in terms of forcingUkraine to surrender.JD Vancesays that, you know, he'sreally agnosticas between Russia and Ukraine.you know, forcing Ukraine to surrender.in the aftermath of the kind of,brutalitythat we've seen from Putinsuggesting that America doesn't,doesn't favor,Ukraine over Russia at demonstratesjust a total lack of understandingof the importance of our alliesin keeping the peace.You know, Donald Trump,every chance he gets,he attacks our allies.He talks about our alliesas though, you know,he were a mafia boss.he seems to completely failto understand thatin order to keep peace,we have to have allies with us.We also have to be strong.And, you know, Putinobviously now is allied with Iran.He's allied with North Korea,allied with China.And so JD Vance and Donald Trumpthink that the right solutionthere is to go in and reward Putinfor whathe's done and rewardall of those adversariesfor what they've done,rather than stand stand with our allies.So I you know, I think what you sawis a mix of desperation and naivete.and just a really you know, an attemptto do the bestI think he can figure out how to doto convince the American peoplenot to believe what they knowto be true about Donald Trump.And,and I think his desperationis clearly showing.So it's not just Vance, obviously.Donald Trump,has been trying to use your supportfor VicePresident Harrisas a way to divide, would be supportersof Harris, especially,just the other day, he,he talked about.Well, I'll just roll the clip.There are a lot of a lot of votersout there, obviously on the left.On the progressive left.Arab Americans, Muslim Americanswho don't like,Biden-Harrisadministration supportfor Israel,in the war in Gaza and Trumptrying to exploit,your support for Harris. Take a listen.Kamala is campaigning withMuslim hating warmonger Liz Cheney,who wants to invadepracticallyevery Muslim country on the planet.And let me tell you,the Muslims of our country,they see it and they know it.I mean, obviously, Donald Trumpin December of 2000 and, 15,talked about a ban on Muslimsentering the United States.But here he isin 2024,trying to use you as an argument,against Harris to encourage MuslimAmerican voters to vote for him.Yeah.You know, again,I think that that they, they don't wantthe Trumpcampaign, Donald Trump,they have no way to respond substantivelyto the truth, to the factsthat vice PresidentHarris has built a coalitionthat is unlike any otherwe have ever seen, frankly,certainly in modern American history,maybe in American history writ large.And that is a coalitionthat includes people from,you know,the far left of the political spectrum,the people on the farright of the political spectrum,including many peoplewho used to work for Donald Trump.And the reasonthat we have all cometogether is not necessarily because wewe say we agree on every issue.We don't certainly.But we understand fundamentally that,the defense of the rule of law,the defense of our Constitution,those are the things that arethat are at stake in this election.And Donald Trump,doesn't have any wayto explain this broad,again, unprecedented supportthat the vice PresidentHarris, is receiving.And and I would also sayI am absolutely confident,having spent time with Vice PresidentHarris, having talked to her,she really does,believe and understands,how important it isfor her to governas a president who unites us,as a president who listensto different perspectivesand points of view,as a president who's going to dowhat's right for this country.And, you know,I hope that,that you guys playas much Donald Trump footageas you can,over the course of the next,nine days or so.Because the morethe American people see him,the more they remember,you know,we cannot have a presidentwho is unstable and depraved, and cruel.And that's that'swhat Donald Trump proves himselfto be every time he,he says things like that.You mentioned how you don'tyou certainly don't agreewith Kamala Harris on every issue.or even most issues, in termsof the traditional political debates,of domestic politics,let's talk about abortion,which is a big issue, in this race.you are against abortion.You're pro-life.you supported Roev Wade being overturned in 2022last week at an event,with Kamala Harris.You said you were deeply troubledby what you've watched happenin many Republican led statessince the Dobbs decision,in terms of the bandsthat the legislatureshave put into place, can you explainyour view on this further?Yeah.And, well, whatI would say is I'm not the only onewho holds this view, but,I think that that and Icertainly have talked to many of them.You have pro-lifewomen all across this country,who have been watching what's happenedin places like Texas, in placeslike North Carolina,where since, row was overturned,you've had, lawsput in place at the state levelthat are preventing womenfrom getting lifesaving care.You have circumstanceswhere, you know, women, are faced with,you know, whatever,sorts of, of emergency care.It might be, whether it's miscarriagesand they require treatment,that,that aren't able to get that treatmentwhere you have doctorsunsure of whether or notthe kind of carethat the woman needsmay in fact be somethingthat's beencriminalized by state law,and that's not acceptable.And I think that's where you havewomen who,like me, have been pro-life,who are saying,no, this what we have seen happencannot stand,you know,when you have the,attorney general of the state of Texassuing to get accessto the medical recordsof, you know, womenwho have sought abortions?but Donald Trump won't give us accessto his own medical records.I mean, this is, we'vewe've crossed over into a situationthat is, is bringing women together,uniting womenwho are pro-choice and pro-lifebehind Vice President Harris,in defense of making surethat women have health care,life saving health care, carethat they needso that they don't find themselvesin a situationwhere either their own life is at risk,where they can'thave babies in the future.you know,this is just simply,simply unsustainable.Former Republican CongresswomanLiz Cheney,thanks so much for joining us.Really appreciate it.\n"