The Exciting World of X570: Understanding PCI 4.0 and its Impact on Motherboards

One of the most talked-about features of the X570 motherboard is the PCI 4.0 interface, which provides a significant boost to storage devices. This new interface offers speeds of up to 5 gigabytes per second, making it absolutely insane for devices that need additional bandwidth. The X570 boards will have a lot more high-speed connectivity than their previous generations, such as C390 and X470. However, the problem we see is the cost, since the price of these motherboards is trending upwards. Many of these standard motherboards actually use workstation technologies, which drives up the cost.

PCI Gen 4 twice writing requires upgraded PCBs for signaling strength, and many of these motherboards have had to upgrade their design to accommodate this new technology. Additionally, the sheer number of features on these boards is a vote of confidence from the motherboard makers to AMD, as they now feel Ryzen is the premium product everyone hoped it would become. However, finding a lower-priced X570 may be a challenge.

On the other hand, AMD's more affordable B500 series and A520 series are nowhere to be found during the last two Ryzen launches. Luckily, AMD has almost complete backwards compatibility for Ryzen 3000 series processors, but there are some limitations if you want to build a system around 3rd-gen Ryzen CPUs. Maybe look for a B450 motherboard or even an X470 if they go on sale.

The Lack of Lower Price Point 500 Series Motherboards Will Hurt Ryzen

I really think the lack of lower price 500 series motherboards will end up hurting the Ryzen 5 3600X and 3600 more than anyone else could. The new Hydra x-series from Corsair is a full water cooling ecosystem with transparent blocks for RGB goodness and built-in flow indicators with soft and heart tubing available, and the full array of fittings so you can design the perfect loop for you.

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Everything's linked below, alright guys? So I mean it's time to bring up that question one more time: is Intel in any spot of trouble in the desktop market? The answer to that is yes. They probably are. You see, MD has new CPUs, shiny new CPUs power-efficient CPUs little bit cores and they also perform very competitively against Intel and they don't cost a lot of money.

But until the biggest issue is that they don't have a direct answer to AMD these 3rd-generation Ryzen processors. You see the sunny core architecture isn't ready for desktop yet, and even then on notebooks it's only expected to come later in October. But then again Intel did vaguely announce that they're gonna come out with new Core X processors which I know for a fact are gonna be super expensive.

Intel Doesn't Have Years to Build Changes into a Product Roadmap

Then again if you think about it the Ryzen 9 3950X is a direct answer from AMD to that, and remember it takes years to build changes into a product roadmap. Honestly Intel doesn't have years or even months. Zen 2 and some nanometers are here now, and Zen 3 with refined 7nm process is coming in 2020.

Lowering Prices Would Be a Great Start for Intel

So let's quickly talk about what Intel can do right now. Lowering their damn high prices would be a great start, but sadly they've been completely unwilling to do that in the past first they've got to stop burying their faces in sand and making believe Ryzen doesn't exist.

AMD and NVIDIA battled it out for years with continual price cuts until their next-edition cards already. It would work here - Intel isn't out of the game by a long shot, but I think they have stayed calm listened for too long if the Ryzen 3000 series lives up to expectations.

Their entire z390 platform looks like overpriced last-gen tech now of course AMD needs to actually deliver on their promises and deliver products to buy. But judging from what we've seen so far, I think Intel has a much bigger hill to climb.

The Verdict: Will You Stick with Your Current System or Switch to 3rd Gen Ryzen?

So that's it for now guys, and I would love to know your thoughts about this whole topic. Would you still stick to your current system or would you consider switching to 3rd-gen Ryzen? I mean there's a new platform look appealing to you in fact if you have any questions or concerns with these new CPUs definitely let us know in the comments down below and we'll definitely make sure to check them out during launch day which is July the 7th.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enso it's been a little over a week sinceAMD showed off their upcoming processorsand graphics cards honestly there isjust a lot to talk aboutin fact I've actually covered all of theNavi GPU stuff in a separate video so ifyou're interested in that link will beright over here but this video is alittle bit different from our normalexplain series you see we wanted to puta little bit more time into reading allof the information than AMD has bestowedupon us with regards to Zen 2 and theupcoming Ryzen 3000 series processorsbut the further we got into theinformation the same question came upover and over again how does this allcompare to whatIntel has to offer right now and ourIntel Desa platforms really in a bunchof trouble so let's just cut through thehype and get into this from a morebalanced perspective while I explainedsome of the finer points of AMD'sapproach to third-generation Ryzen ohand yeah this video is gonna be a littlebit a longer one so definitely make sureto check the comments where x temps willbe pinned the first a quick message fromour sponsor the master fan series fromCoolermaster has now received a freshnew look with a square frame designed togenerate high pressure air flow andsilent operation the fans feature thisbeautiful addressable RGB illuminationand you can pick it up in 120 240 and360 millimetre variants learn more inthe description down below alright solet's start with the obvious thing aboutthis whole intel versus AMD cpu warsteam blue was caught with their pantsdown when AMD announced Zen now whatcould even be worrying for Team Blue isthat Zen 2 seems to be performing evenbetter than anyone else expectedincluding AMD they initially thought youknow of about 7 to 10 percent uplift ininstructions per clock or IPC but it'sright now hovering around 15 percent butthere is more to usually companies havesome issues moving to a newmanufacturing process like Intelsticking to their 49 meter for abouthalf a decade now since 10 nanometerjust wasn't ready but with the new 790meter technology aimed he has been ableto drastically increase density whilealso cutting power and of courseincreasing performance per watt also dokeep in mind that switching processesusually leads to decreased corefrequencies between one generation tothe nextbut somehow AMD was able to avoid all ofthis and so there are new 7 nanometerbasic views will have equal or higherQuincy's than the ones they replace nowif Intel was hoping for lowerfrequencies to offset aim thesearchitectural improvements well theywere clearly wrong but I also want tofocus a bit on that density point frombefore because it's gonna be reallyimportant in the battle against Inteland it's key point to understanding howaim D can do what they're doing youmight have noticed that Lisa sue showedoff a Ryzen CPU that looked somethinglike this with two smaller diesalongside one larger onethose small course are what AMD callschip lights and they happen to be thecornerstone of reisen's future rememberI said that density matters well each ofthose little 74 square millimetre chipshouses processing cores cache and moremeanwhile the larger da you see here isthe input output section that housesthings like the Infinity fabric memorycontrollers and device communicationsdining a bit deeper those complexdesigns triplets or C CDs are supersmall but the 7 nanometre manufacturingprocess allows them to house 2 quad corea threaded Ryzen cores and 32 megabytesof l3 cache now when you add 2 of theseC CDs together and you have yourself aCPU with 16 cores and 32 threads whileother designs can be created by simplydisabling course for example a 12 corepart can be created by including 2 corecomplex designs but disabling 1 quadcore section meanwhile an 8 core 16threat CPU can be done by including justa single one of these shifflet'salongside the cio D but the really coolthing here is that in theory these 8cores can keep being added or removed tocreate all kinds of different productsnow for Intel this could cause a massivechallenge since AMD can now use thismodular approach to pack as many 7nanometre cores onto the CPU and thiswill allow them to launch relativelyaffordable and efficient CPUs withhigher thread counts that couldpotentially overcome some of intel'smost expensive h EDD processors aperfect example of that would be theupcoming Ryzen 9 3950x a 16 core 32threaded monster that will go for around$750 u.s. I can't imagine the look ofhorror on Intel spaces when the pricewas announced since their closestcompetitorwould be the I9 9960x and yes it goesfor a ridiculous $1,700 us now the newtriplet approach does bring up somethinga bit concerning and that is heat yousee while the Ryzen 3000 seriesprocessors seem to be really efficientconcentrating heat on multiple cores ina relatively you know small packagecould cause heat buildup we saw thiswith Intel when they moved over tostacked 40 nanometer transistors withBroadwell and Indy could face somethingsimilar now supposedly AMD's internaltesting proves their chips do run coolerthan Intel'sand results like these thermal imagesseem to prove that but we will have totest that out ourselvesespecially when overclocking other thanthe 1350X I already talked about AMD'sline up will have a bunch of otherprocessors starting with the Ryzen 93900X which is their first 12 core 24thread CPU available for the aim forplatform at $500 it's the most expensivenon-threaded for CPU yet but if you wantsomething less expensivethere's the $400 Ryzen 7 3800X and the330 dollar 3700X the last twoprocessors will follow in the footstepsof the 2700X by offering a course and16 threads along with higher boostfrequencies all of these have TDPS ofjust 105 watts which is reallyimpressive except the 3700X which is 65watts rumors are to be believed thatwill allow it to overclock quite high -one thing that should jump out rightaway is the fact that the Ryzen 7 3700Xcosts exactly the same amount as the2700X when it first launched so AMDisn't charging a premium for their newarchitecture part of that could be dueto how similar the specs are between the2700X and a 3700X but I really reallyhope Intel is paying attention herewhile the more expensive 3rd gen Ryzenprocessors will probably get a lot ofattention or actually more excited aboutthe 12 thread Ryzen 5 3600X and 3600Ryzen 5's are usually a nice performanceper dollar leaders and these newer onesdon't look any differentremember they're competing price-wiseagainst Intel's six core sixth thread i5 9600kand the 9400 which should be aninteresting battle especially when itcomes to budget gaming bills here youcan pretty clearly see what Intel'slikely scrambling right now to getinfluencers on board and content fortheir processors out the door whenviewing the battle from this perspectivethere's a lot of reason to believe thatAMD will be a dominating player at everyprice point but there's some areas whereAMD may still be a bit weak and Intelcan capitalize on that more on that injust a bitsomething else that I just wanted tohighlight are the two new AP use in thislineupthe 3400G and the 3200G these arebasically updated Raven which ap usewhich still use the 14 animatedmanufacturing process and simply bumpthe clock speed versus last gen 7nanometre AP use on do out this year sothese are simply placeholders alright soI mentioned that in some areas AMDmight need improvement you see if youremember with 2nd generation Ryzenprocessors they tended to lag pretty farbehind coffee lake in you know single orlife he putted workloads and because ofthat gaming suffered as wellnow AMD things that they've addressedthat with Zen to when you combine theirdesign enhancements as well as improvedclock speed consistency they're supposedto be a 21% increase in single threadperformance in a perfect world likeCinebench that is but what about gamingwell AMD has also doubled Ryzen 3'slevel 3 cache sizes and calls a gamecache more cache means more informationcan be stored locally on the processorshigh-speed memory rather than beingdumped on to the slower system memorywhen you combine that with the fact thatsin 2 can hit 30 600 megahertz as anoverclocked memory speed there are somebig potential framerate boosts but doesthat mean Intel should be worried yesand no on one hand AMD showed that theRyzen 9 3900X pretty much matchingthe 9900Kbut remember the rides in CPU cost a fewbucks more than a 9900K it's goodto see them being at an even playingfield here and the game seemedcherry-picked as well to show the bestin Ryzen what's a bit more concerning isthe 3800X versus 9700K benchmarksbecause they do show Intel leading in afew more cases but by how muchwell there's no way of telling justremember that all of these benchmarksare at 1080p and if the resolution wasincreased the gap would reduce by quitea bitdue to the GPU being a bottleneck nowgaming benchmarks was one of Intel'slast safe havens against Ryzen but itlooks like AMD is narrowing the gap evenfurther with these new third generationprocessors now when you look at itoverall there doesn't seem to be aclear-cut winner in the whole 3000series lineup at least against CoffeeLakeI mean sure they do look better but aconvincing win doesn't look possible yetwhere Intel will lose and lose big timeis in multitrader performance benchmarksAMD can simply offer more cores for lessmoney but there's one thing that wenoticed here there is no way AMDenabled Intel's quick sync support forthat Adobe premier test since with it onthe 9900K would have dominatedeverywhere else though the wind seemspretty convincing while virtual threatsdon't scale nearly as well as physicalones in this test we can see that AMDabsolutely needs their core countadvantage over Intel to win even thoughthat the 3800X has double the threadcount as Intel's 9700K it can only edgeit out by a maximum of 37% wow that's ahuge win given the price of each CPUthere are obviously some strong pointsin Intel's current architecture can theyactually build on that well just gonnahave to wait and see now another keyselling feature of AMD's nextgeneration platform is the x570 chipsetin fact if you're interested in learningmore about that and the new x570motherboards yes motherboards superexciting right you can actually checkout our in-depth coverage of MSI'sofferings right over here but as we keptdigging through the information thatAMD did provide us some things did comeup that were quite concerning withregards to pricing one of the mosttalked about features of x570is the PCI 4.0 interface super excitingright now while graphics cards aren'tanywhere close to needing the bandwidthit provides storage devices can surebenefit gigabyte corsair and othermanufacturers have announced nvme SSDsthat can operate and 5 gigabytes persecond which is absolutely insane PCI4.0 also offers a lot more flexibilityfor devices that need additionalbandwidth so X570 boards will have alot more high in connectivity thaneither C390 or X470 the problem we seeis cost since the price of thesemotherboards is trending upwardsyou see PCI Gen 4 twice writing requiresupgraded PCBs for signaling strength andmany of these standard motherboardsactually use workstation technologies sothat obviously drives the cost upanother thing that's boosting prices isthe sheer number of features many ofthese boards have that's a vote ofconfidence from the motherboard makersto AMD since they now feel Ryzen is thepremium product everyone hoped it wouldbecome but finding a lower priced x570may be a challenge but to me what'sreally concerning is AMD's moreaffordable b500 series and a 5 minuteseries that are nowhere to be foundduring the last two Ryzen launchesboth chipsets were detailed right at thestart but this time they haven't beenmentioned at all now luckily AMD hasalmost complete backwards compatibilityfor Ryzen 3000 series processors butthere are some limitations if you want amore budget-friendly system around 3rdgen writes and CPUs maybe look for a be450 motherboard or maybe even an X470if they go on sale honestly I reallythink the lack of lower price 500 seriesmotherboards will end up hurting theRyzen 5 3600X and 3600 more thananyone else could the new Hydra x-seriesfrom Corsair is a full water coolingecosystem with transparent blocks forRGB goodness and built-in flowindicators with soft and heart tubingavailable and the full array of fittingsso you can design the perfect loop foryou hide your X by Corsair everything'slinked below alright guys so I mean it'stime to bring up that question one moretime is Intel any spot of trouble in thedesktop market the answer to that isyes they probably are you see MD has newCPUs shiny new CPUs power efficient CPUslittle bit cores and they also performvery competitively against Intel andthey don't cost a lot of money but untilthe biggest issue is that they don'thave a direct answer to AMD these 3rdgeneration Ryzen processors you see thesunny core architecture isn't ready fordesktop yet and even then on notebooksit's only expected to come later inOctober but then again Intel did vaguelyannounce that they're gonna come outwith new core X processors which I knowfor a fact are gonna be super expensivethen again if you think about itthe Ryzen 9 3950X is a direct answerfrom AMD to that and remember it takesyears to build changes into a productroadmap and honestly Intel doesn't haveyears or even months Zen 2 and somenanometers are here now and Zen 3 withrefined 7nm process is comingin 2020 so let's quickly talk about whatIntel can do right now lowering theirdamn high prices would be a great startbut sadly they've been completelyunwilling to do that in the past firstthey've got to stop burying their facesin sand and making believe Ryzen doesn'texistAMD and NVIDIA battled it out for yearswith continual price cuts until theirnext edition cards already and it wouldwork here - Intel isn't out of the gameby a longshot but I think they havestayed calm listened for too long if theRyzen 3000 series lives up toexpectations their entire z390 platformlooks like overpriced last gen tech nowof course AMD needs to actually deliveron their promises and deliver productsto buy on July the 7th but judging fromwhat we've seen so far I think Intel hasa much bigger hill to climb so that's itfor now guys and I would love to knowyour thoughts about this whole topicwould you still stick to your currentsystem or would you consider switchingto 3rd gen Ryzen I mean there's a newplatform look appealing to you in factif you have any questions or concernswith these new CPUs definitely let usknow in the comments down below andwe'll definitely make sure to check themout during launch day which is July the7th it's certainly an interestingexciting month for us here at hardwoodconnects but yeahdefinitely stay tuned and even retardoconnects thank you so much for watchingsure to check out some relevant contentover here and I'll see you guyshmm there's been a long one in the nextone\n"