Can we convince James May to buy a Mini Electric

The Nostalgia of Retro Cars: A Love-Hate Relationship with Electric Vehicles

As I sit here reflecting on my experiences with electric vehicles, I must admit that I have a bit of a love-hate relationship with them. On one hand, I am an advocate for the electric future and believe that these cars are the key to reducing our carbon footprint and mitigating the effects of climate change. However, on the other hand, I have come to realize that there is still much work to be done before electric vehicles can truly live up to their promise.

Take, for example, the recent release of the Alpina's new car, which I was excited to get behind the wheel of. The car's design is reminiscent of classic cars from the 1960s, and at first glance, it seems like a bold move by the manufacturer to pay homage to the past. However, as I delved deeper into the car's features and specifications, I began to feel a sense of annoyance. The car's weight, size, and power output are all technically modern, but the design is certainly nostalgic. It's as if the manufacturer is acknowledging that people can't move on from the past, and instead of embracing innovation, they're opting for a retro aesthetic.

This got me thinking about my own experiences with electric cars. As someone who loves driving, I was initially excited to try out an electric vehicle. However, after spending time behind the wheel, I began to feel underwhelmed by the car's performance. It's like it doesn't really want to drive - it wants to be a mini! I know that's not entirely fair, but as someone who loves driving, there's nothing quite like the thrill of getting behind the wheel and hitting the open road.

One of my favorite electric cars is actually a Mini Cooper, which I've had the pleasure of owning for a while now. The car is fun to drive, well-made, and well-priced - what more could you ask for? However, despite its many charms, it does have one major flaw: it's a bit of a control freak. It doesn't really want to be driven aggressively or pushed to its limits. It's content with just cruising along at a leisurely pace, which can be frustrating if you're someone who enjoys driving.

The range of an electric car is also a major concern for me. According to the manufacturer, the Alpina's new car has a range of 145 miles on paper. However, in reality, I've found that it's more like around 115-120 miles when driven carefully. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it does mean that you need to plan your journey much further in advance than with a traditional petrol or diesel car.

Despite these limitations, I do think that electric cars have the potential to revolutionize the way we travel. With the ability to charge them overnight and access to increasingly extensive networks of charging points, there's no reason why people can't use their electric vehicles for long road trips or daily commutes. The only problem is that the battery technology still needs to improve.

In particular, I think that electric cars are heading towards a major problem - range anxiety. Whatever way you cut it, the problem is still the batteries. They're just not good enough yet. We've made huge strides in recent years with lithium-ion batteries, but they're still heavy, have limited range, and take too long to charge.

I also worry that as electric cars become increasingly popular, we'll see a massive increase in the number of cars on the road. This is not necessarily a good thing, in my opinion. Cars are already a major contributor to air pollution and climate change, and adding millions more vehicles to the mix could have devastating consequences.

So, what's the solution? I'm not sure, but I do think that we need to find ways to improve battery technology and increase the range of electric cars. We also need to invest in the infrastructure needed to support widespread adoption of electric vehicles - more charging points, for example, or even better ones that can charge them up quickly.

Ultimately, as someone who loves driving, I want to see electric cars become a club that's accessible to everyone. I don't want to be stuck on long journeys with limited range and slow charging times. But if we're going to build a car with a massive range and huge battery, it should come at the cost of something more practical - like affordability or accessibility.

As I look around at the electric vehicle market, I see a lot of potential for growth and innovation. However, I also see some major hurdles that need to be overcome before electric cars can truly become the norm. Whether you're an enthusiast who loves driving or someone who's just looking for an eco-friendly option, there's still much work to be done before electric vehicles can live up to their promise.

I recently took the 100D long-range electric car on a test drive between my two houses, which got me thinking about the practicalities of using an electric vehicle for long trips. The car itself is impressive, with its sleek design and comfortable interior, but I couldn't shake off the feeling that it was still missing something.

As someone who loves driving, there's nothing quite like the thrill of getting behind the wheel and hitting the open road. Electric vehicles are certainly fun to drive, but they don't have the same sense of urgency or excitement as a traditional petrol or diesel car. It's like they're content with just cruising along at a leisurely pace - which can be frustrating if you're someone who enjoys driving.

However, despite its limitations, I do think that electric vehicles are the future. They offer an eco-friendly alternative to traditional cars, and as technology continues to improve, I have no doubt that we'll see even more innovative designs and features on the market.

As for me, I'm still waiting for the day when electric vehicles become a truly mainstream option - one that's accessible to everyone, regardless of budget or driving style. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy my Mini Cooper and other electric vehicles, but with a sense of nostalgia and appreciation for the past.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: ensorry to interrupt you there but last week I asked you about the mini electric I'm interested in it I was interested yes you were mmm yes you're on offense cuz you look at BMW i3 oh I don't want one no well I'm fine well I've been driven it and I've put together little videos trying to convince you that you want to chop your I 3m for one I'm not sure we'll be successful but have a watch and see what you think if you're the sort of person that wants to swap their second car for an Eevee then 2020 shaping up to be a pretty decent year we've already had the Honda II the Volkswagen id3 is just around the corner and this the mini electric is finally here it's a mini and it's electric which is a good idea because it's already a good city car but James May doesn't think this car is going to be that good because he says it hasn't got enough range for getting out of the city and into the countryside so I want to find out if we can persuade him out of his BMW i3 and into a mini electric and more importantly mini says this has the same performance as a Cooper S which is a hot hatch so is this the mini electric actually the first all-electric hot hatch I want to find out I also want to go somewhere warm because it's freezing and windy I'm sorry James but the interview of BMW i3 has got nothing on the interior of this mini it's like comparing a Turkish prison with this which is Disneyland it's just full of joy and happiness everything is colorful everything is fun to touch like the start/stop button you can press that for hours that's a no it's just it's just wonderfully designed in here everything's really well built it's a very pleasant place to be and that's basically the biggest motoring cliche in the world I'm sorry but it is kind of true here you get the mini electric in three versions the 1 the 2 the 3 I think their marketing department took a day off when they did that but who cares they will get sat now if they will get cruise control and apple carplay this the 2 doesn't get the biggest sat-nav screen but they all get this digital dashboard which is super clear unless it's sunny in which case it's a bit girly area and reflective but it standard mini in here and to be honest that's really good a really cool thing about the mini electric entertainment system is this green circle which will show you how far you can go on your current charge think of it as the storm in fortnight or pub G if you're not a two-year-old well it certainly looks like a Mini Cooper S so that's the hot hatch looks box ticked this vent though it is fake I guess because they've junked the engine as just an electric motor on let doesn't need as much cooling and also you can tell it's the electric version because it's covered in more yellow than a jaundiced giraffe I'm it is all optional so you can't make it look like a normal car but mini buyers think looks are important ask anyone who owns a mini why they bought it and I guarantee you they'll say because it looks really cool personally I think the Skoda Superb looks cool so what do I know about looks I like it from the side is classic three door mini apart from the wheels which were inspired by a UK three-pin plug I presume it's Drive on the continent will need a an adapter or different color passports but let's not get into that and instead of a petrol flap you have an electricity flap it's also about a much taller than a normal mini but I don't think anyone's going to notice unless they're an absolute nerd under the bonnet you'll find this a thirty two point six kilowatt electric motor which should be look at it you'll notice has 184 horsepower and 217 Newton meters of torque now it's actually a bit less torque than the petrol Cooper s so on paper is not that hot hatch II but as we all know numbers on paper don't mean much when it comes to driving performance it was at 124 miles on a full charge and it's from the BMW i3 so it's good it's reliable and they've done millions of miles on them and it won't break at the back you get many standard LED tail lights which we've got a union flag designed to remind you where it's built you don't get an exhaust pipe because it's electric and you don't need one and you get many slightly weird electricity badge which looks like someone stabbed pac-man in the face with a fork you also get a 211 litre boot which isn't huge but it's 50 litres up from what you're getting andari but that's literally in the same boot space you get in every other 3 door mini that's what you need to know about the back of the mini electric is they're fascinating it's quite fast when BMW took over mini back in the early noughties they made it their mission to give every car go car handling which let's be honest means that your parts jiggle around a bit more so if my man breasts are a bit more hypnotic than usual I apologize the mini electric feels just like every other mini it's got direct steering so you can make your passengers feel sick it doesn't roll much in corners but the ride is a bit firmer than in the petrol one I think it's probably because the batteries are an extra 250 kilos so they make the suspension work a bit harder on the plus side though it does a bit of lift off oversteer like a proper hot hatch on these kind of slightly greasy roads you break into a corner and it moves around a bit I wasn't expecting that we just had an interesting chat from a German engineer who worked on this car that said the batteries actually help shift the weight towards the back of the car so you've got 50/50 split in the weight distribution and yet when you break into a corner going quickly it's not completely tied down which is fun it is fun to drive and you do get a bit of wool and being a bit of a hero which you don't get in most electric cars so yeah we're starting to be convinced that this code would be an electric hot hatch so yeah James May I think this is a lot more fun to drive within your i3 now remember I'm trying to convince James to swap his BMW i3 for one of these mini electrics so we're gonna play a little game where I see if I can guess what he will and won't like about it we could call it may a cars ride it's a terrible name but we're going with it because I'm really cold and that's quite noisy starting on the outside I don't think you'll like the looks I think James will say something like car design should be progressive and not retro you even said that back is only our pin a 110 so I don't think you would like the look of this am i right yes you're right I'm not sure James is gonna like these Union flag taillights either they're quite divisive and I just don't reckon it's his cup of tea what we reckon yeah they're a bit mmm bit Faraj I'm not sure I like the color either he'll probably say it's a bit too drab obviously other colours are available but this is a man who's talked about wrapping his test a Model S in like some lurid orange or green am i right that is an awful color I mean it looks like it fell off the production line just after the primary being put on what a waste one thing I don't think James are really like about this mini is the overhead switches up here I think that designs make you feel like a pilot and it works for me he's an actual pilot so he's not gonna think that's particularly cool he's gonna think it's a bit chintzy I quite like going long thinking all flaps down 15 degrees planes nerds of course I like overhead switches everybody likes overhead switches and everybody likes being able to change the color inside the car cuz that's like being an interior designer rubbish roadie one thing I think James will really like about this car it's something that minis done with the traction control which is actually really quite clever normally traction control works by using various sensors around the car and it pings a signal around which means there's a bit of a delay between the wheel spinning and it cutting the power and you know how it fills the petrol car when you spend wheels up you get that like you're being electrocuted in this they built that right into the motor itself so the motor she knows when the front wheels are spinning before you do and it can smoothly cart the power they've shortened the signal Park so it's the kind of car effect of cutting your hands off and seller taping them to your head think how quickly could wiggle your fingers if there were your arms in the way it's kind of like that what seriously a shorter path for something that travels pretty much at the speed of light I can't see that makes a huge amount of difference to be honest that sounds like PR so how did I do in our first round of mania cars right but don't know actually because we've not edited today yet so how did I do in May your car's right no I don't know really but whatever it's time to go out there it's a bit windy so there you have it the mini electric shirt James may trade his eye three for one yeah it looks better it handles better and it's got way more of a feel-good factor is it an electric hot hatch though well yes I'm quite surprised we came here today had a lot of fun the slithering around on country roads like we're in a Fiesta ST it's it's good it's just a bit expensive it's 24 grand for the basic 130 grand for the top spec one but if you can afford it I'd get one thank you for watching so James how did I do if I convinced you out your BMW i3 and those were fun youthful mini electric is he is it youthful the mini yeah no I think it's for old people does it so I think it's for old people who wish they were stood in the sixties and think they were Twiggy or Peter Sellers or whatever I'm not I'm not convinced it's actually youthful I think the i3 is more youthful because it's more contemporary it's more forward-looking it's you know it's not hung up on the past that's what annoys me about retro started I don't know why they made cars that are technically modern I mean this is now electric they've been saying they're doing it actually one for a long time the Alpina's very own message low weight low size small power downsize but great handling great feel they did all that and then they dressed it up like something from the 60s as if acknowledging that people can't move on and I do find a little bit annoying so is the upshot that's ultimately the instead of getting a mini electric you're gonna solve you're helping no because the thing is the Alpine is I can just about only just but I can just about forgive the alpide is looks because it is such a fabulous drive and that's my swan song internal combustion car if you like it's probably the last one I will sell of the ones I currently have electric cars I love them I love the sensation similar to driving but the minis it's like it doesn't really want to do it it wants to be a mini I know mean he's a Grammy mini is a great fun to drive their nice cars they're well-made they're well priced they're fabulously equipped or blah blah blah blah blah but they just they got hangups I don't like hang them all so what's the range 145 miles is that a theoretical that's the WL TP Europeans yeah it's a lie about it range so it's probably about 115 120 when my BMW which has got quite a few similar mechanical bits and you know electrical bits underneath in reality it's about a hundred and twenty driving it carefully I just think despite being an advocate of the electric future I think electric cars are heading for a massive problem because whichever way you cut it the problem is still the batteries they're a lot better than they were that you know when Sir Clive Sinclair tried to make his little electric car and you had to put the lead acid batteries in we've now got lithium and it's amazing but it's still not good enough because they're too heavy the range isn't big enough and they do take too long to charge and the argument is always oh well you charge overnight and most people only drive eight miles a day yes but then you want to go to Scotland from London or to Wales from Ireland and you're shafted that's probably a second car those that must be honest well so electric cars are increasing the number of cars in the world which is not a good thing I think you can do goodness well yeah okay but I mean my test there is that is the longest range electric car you can currently buy the 100 d long range and you know i drive it between my two houses first of all problem i know and i can charge it up overnight in my garage because i have a garage because i'm very lucky blah blah blah yes that argument stands but over Christmas I went to see Tom the direct and then I went on somewhere else and then somewhere else I couldn't really charge it properly at Tom's house because he doesn't have an electric car charger plugged into his main socket it charged at the rate of about five or six miles an hour so even overnight it didn't top it up very much and then you start planning your journey via superchargers and there just aren't enough of them so the range actually becomes a little bit irrelevant because it's actually how far you are from the next supercharger and if you go on the normal charge or it takes hours and hours and hours to charge it up so then okay you build a car with a massive range and a huge battery you can go for a thousand miles say but the battery will be very heavy and then it takes even longer to charge up the batteries have to improve until electric cars can charge in a few minutes we're going to be a bit shafted and you know the moment electric cars are a club it's a great club it's fantastic van der Veen but if lots of people start buying them I just I think we're gonna have huge problems I think that's a no it's a bit of a no but it's a qualified now like subscribe comment and please be nice to Tim in the comments if you make comment he's he's new he's young just because you don't actually know him and he's just online doesn't mean you can bully him and be nasty you wouldn't do that in a pub you wouldn't go into the pub and say those sort of things because you'd worry that someone would punch your face in well treat the Internet in the same way it's like a pub you wouldn't go up to Tim Rowe I would encourage him to say hey Tim that was because he might smack me one so I wouldn't do it so don't do it online okay like subscribe comment be nice yousorry to interrupt you there but last week I asked you about the mini electric I'm interested in it I was interested yes you were mmm yes you're on offense cuz you look at BMW i3 oh I don't want one no well I'm fine well I've been driven it and I've put together little videos trying to convince you that you want to chop your I 3m for one I'm not sure we'll be successful but have a watch and see what you think if you're the sort of person that wants to swap their second car for an Eevee then 2020 shaping up to be a pretty decent year we've already had the Honda II the Volkswagen id3 is just around the corner and this the mini electric is finally here it's a mini and it's electric which is a good idea because it's already a good city car but James May doesn't think this car is going to be that good because he says it hasn't got enough range for getting out of the city and into the countryside so I want to find out if we can persuade him out of his BMW i3 and into a mini electric and more importantly mini says this has the same performance as a Cooper S which is a hot hatch so is this the mini electric actually the first all-electric hot hatch I want to find out I also want to go somewhere warm because it's freezing and windy I'm sorry James but the interview of BMW i3 has got nothing on the interior of this mini it's like comparing a Turkish prison with this which is Disneyland it's just full of joy and happiness everything is colorful everything is fun to touch like the start/stop button you can press that for hours that's a no it's just it's just wonderfully designed in here everything's really well built it's a very pleasant place to be and that's basically the biggest motoring cliche in the world I'm sorry but it is kind of true here you get the mini electric in three versions the 1 the 2 the 3 I think their marketing department took a day off when they did that but who cares they will get sat now if they will get cruise control and apple carplay this the 2 doesn't get the biggest sat-nav screen but they all get this digital dashboard which is super clear unless it's sunny in which case it's a bit girly area and reflective but it standard mini in here and to be honest that's really good a really cool thing about the mini electric entertainment system is this green circle which will show you how far you can go on your current charge think of it as the storm in fortnight or pub G if you're not a two-year-old well it certainly looks like a Mini Cooper S so that's the hot hatch looks box ticked this vent though it is fake I guess because they've junked the engine as just an electric motor on let doesn't need as much cooling and also you can tell it's the electric version because it's covered in more yellow than a jaundiced giraffe I'm it is all optional so you can't make it look like a normal car but mini buyers think looks are important ask anyone who owns a mini why they bought it and I guarantee you they'll say because it looks really cool personally I think the Skoda Superb looks cool so what do I know about looks I like it from the side is classic three door mini apart from the wheels which were inspired by a UK three-pin plug I presume it's Drive on the continent will need a an adapter or different color passports but let's not get into that and instead of a petrol flap you have an electricity flap it's also about a much taller than a normal mini but I don't think anyone's going to notice unless they're an absolute nerd under the bonnet you'll find this a thirty two point six kilowatt electric motor which should be look at it you'll notice has 184 horsepower and 217 Newton meters of torque now it's actually a bit less torque than the petrol Cooper s so on paper is not that hot hatch II but as we all know numbers on paper don't mean much when it comes to driving performance it was at 124 miles on a full charge and it's from the BMW i3 so it's good it's reliable and they've done millions of miles on them and it won't break at the back you get many standard LED tail lights which we've got a union flag designed to remind you where it's built you don't get an exhaust pipe because it's electric and you don't need one and you get many slightly weird electricity badge which looks like someone stabbed pac-man in the face with a fork you also get a 211 litre boot which isn't huge but it's 50 litres up from what you're getting andari but that's literally in the same boot space you get in every other 3 door mini that's what you need to know about the back of the mini electric is they're fascinating it's quite fast when BMW took over mini back in the early noughties they made it their mission to give every car go car handling which let's be honest means that your parts jiggle around a bit more so if my man breasts are a bit more hypnotic than usual I apologize the mini electric feels just like every other mini it's got direct steering so you can make your passengers feel sick it doesn't roll much in corners but the ride is a bit firmer than in the petrol one I think it's probably because the batteries are an extra 250 kilos so they make the suspension work a bit harder on the plus side though it does a bit of lift off oversteer like a proper hot hatch on these kind of slightly greasy roads you break into a corner and it moves around a bit I wasn't expecting that we just had an interesting chat from a German engineer who worked on this car that said the batteries actually help shift the weight towards the back of the car so you've got 50/50 split in the weight distribution and yet when you break into a corner going quickly it's not completely tied down which is fun it is fun to drive and you do get a bit of wool and being a bit of a hero which you don't get in most electric cars so yeah we're starting to be convinced that this code would be an electric hot hatch so yeah James May I think this is a lot more fun to drive within your i3 now remember I'm trying to convince James to swap his BMW i3 for one of these mini electrics so we're gonna play a little game where I see if I can guess what he will and won't like about it we could call it may a cars ride it's a terrible name but we're going with it because I'm really cold and that's quite noisy starting on the outside I don't think you'll like the looks I think James will say something like car design should be progressive and not retro you even said that back is only our pin a 110 so I don't think you would like the look of this am i right yes you're right I'm not sure James is gonna like these Union flag taillights either they're quite divisive and I just don't reckon it's his cup of tea what we reckon yeah they're a bit mmm bit Faraj I'm not sure I like the color either he'll probably say it's a bit too drab obviously other colours are available but this is a man who's talked about wrapping his test a Model S in like some lurid orange or green am i right that is an awful color I mean it looks like it fell off the production line just after the primary being put on what a waste one thing I don't think James are really like about this mini is the overhead switches up here I think that designs make you feel like a pilot and it works for me he's an actual pilot so he's not gonna think that's particularly cool he's gonna think it's a bit chintzy I quite like going long thinking all flaps down 15 degrees planes nerds of course I like overhead switches everybody likes overhead switches and everybody likes being able to change the color inside the car cuz that's like being an interior designer rubbish roadie one thing I think James will really like about this car it's something that minis done with the traction control which is actually really quite clever normally traction control works by using various sensors around the car and it pings a signal around which means there's a bit of a delay between the wheel spinning and it cutting the power and you know how it fills the petrol car when you spend wheels up you get that like you're being electrocuted in this they built that right into the motor itself so the motor she knows when the front wheels are spinning before you do and it can smoothly cart the power they've shortened the signal Park so it's the kind of car effect of cutting your hands off and seller taping them to your head think how quickly could wiggle your fingers if there were your arms in the way it's kind of like that what seriously a shorter path for something that travels pretty much at the speed of light I can't see that makes a huge amount of difference to be honest that sounds like PR so how did I do in our first round of mania cars right but don't know actually because we've not edited today yet so how did I do in May your car's right no I don't know really but whatever it's time to go out there it's a bit windy so there you have it the mini electric shirt James may trade his eye three for one yeah it looks better it handles better and it's got way more of a feel-good factor is it an electric hot hatch though well yes I'm quite surprised we came here today had a lot of fun the slithering around on country roads like we're in a Fiesta ST it's it's good it's just a bit expensive it's 24 grand for the basic 130 grand for the top spec one but if you can afford it I'd get one thank you for watching so James how did I do if I convinced you out your BMW i3 and those were fun youthful mini electric is he is it youthful the mini yeah no I think it's for old people does it so I think it's for old people who wish they were stood in the sixties and think they were Twiggy or Peter Sellers or whatever I'm not I'm not convinced it's actually youthful I think the i3 is more youthful because it's more contemporary it's more forward-looking it's you know it's not hung up on the past that's what annoys me about retro started I don't know why they made cars that are technically modern I mean this is now electric they've been saying they're doing it actually one for a long time the Alpina's very own message low weight low size small power downsize but great handling great feel they did all that and then they dressed it up like something from the 60s as if acknowledging that people can't move on and I do find a little bit annoying so is the upshot that's ultimately the instead of getting a mini electric you're gonna solve you're helping no because the thing is the Alpine is I can just about only just but I can just about forgive the alpide is looks because it is such a fabulous drive and that's my swan song internal combustion car if you like it's probably the last one I will sell of the ones I currently have electric cars I love them I love the sensation similar to driving but the minis it's like it doesn't really want to do it it wants to be a mini I know mean he's a Grammy mini is a great fun to drive their nice cars they're well-made they're well priced they're fabulously equipped or blah blah blah blah blah but they just they got hangups I don't like hang them all so what's the range 145 miles is that a theoretical that's the WL TP Europeans yeah it's a lie about it range so it's probably about 115 120 when my BMW which has got quite a few similar mechanical bits and you know electrical bits underneath in reality it's about a hundred and twenty driving it carefully I just think despite being an advocate of the electric future I think electric cars are heading for a massive problem because whichever way you cut it the problem is still the batteries they're a lot better than they were that you know when Sir Clive Sinclair tried to make his little electric car and you had to put the lead acid batteries in we've now got lithium and it's amazing but it's still not good enough because they're too heavy the range isn't big enough and they do take too long to charge and the argument is always oh well you charge overnight and most people only drive eight miles a day yes but then you want to go to Scotland from London or to Wales from Ireland and you're shafted that's probably a second car those that must be honest well so electric cars are increasing the number of cars in the world which is not a good thing I think you can do goodness well yeah okay but I mean my test there is that is the longest range electric car you can currently buy the 100 d long range and you know i drive it between my two houses first of all problem i know and i can charge it up overnight in my garage because i have a garage because i'm very lucky blah blah blah yes that argument stands but over Christmas I went to see Tom the direct and then I went on somewhere else and then somewhere else I couldn't really charge it properly at Tom's house because he doesn't have an electric car charger plugged into his main socket it charged at the rate of about five or six miles an hour so even overnight it didn't top it up very much and then you start planning your journey via superchargers and there just aren't enough of them so the range actually becomes a little bit irrelevant because it's actually how far you are from the next supercharger and if you go on the normal charge or it takes hours and hours and hours to charge it up so then okay you build a car with a massive range and a huge battery you can go for a thousand miles say but the battery will be very heavy and then it takes even longer to charge up the batteries have to improve until electric cars can charge in a few minutes we're going to be a bit shafted and you know the moment electric cars are a club it's a great club it's fantastic van der Veen but if lots of people start buying them I just I think we're gonna have huge problems I think that's a no it's a bit of a no but it's a qualified now like subscribe comment and please be nice to Tim in the comments if you make comment he's he's new he's young just because you don't actually know him and he's just online doesn't mean you can bully him and be nasty you wouldn't do that in a pub you wouldn't go into the pub and say those sort of things because you'd worry that someone would punch your face in well treat the Internet in the same way it's like a pub you wouldn't go up to Tim Rowe I would encourage him to say hey Tim that was because he might smack me one so I wouldn't do it so don't do it online okay like subscribe comment be nice you\n"