Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC - Fix or Flop S5 -E3

**A Troubled System: A Journey to Recovery**

I recently had the opportunity to work on a system that was in dire need of repair. The owner, who lives in Orlando, Florida, had brought their system to me for help, and I was determined to get it running smoothly again. As soon as I started working on the system, I knew that this was going to be a challenging project.

The first thing I noticed when I opened up the case was the lack of adequate cooling. The stock CPU cooler was struggling to keep up with the heat generated by the system's components, and it showed in the temperatures I saw. I also had to deal with the fact that the motherboard only has a single chassis Fan Hub, which is pretty ridiculous. It's like loading straight into Windows 11, a good sign that we're on the right track.

After some research and troubleshooting, I discovered that the system was experiencing stability issues while gaming. The original owner had reported problems with the system crashing or resetting during intense gaming sessions. However, when I ran the id64 stability test for over an hour without issue, it became clear that the problem wasn't with the hardware itself, but rather with the power supply and cooling system.

To address these issues, I decided to upgrade the power supply and add more fans to the system. This would not only improve airflow but also reduce the temperatures inside the case. After installing the new power supply, I was pleased to see that CPU temperatures had dropped significantly, from the mid-70s to under 60°C. While this was a welcome improvement, I knew that there was still more work to be done.

Next, I tackled the graphics card, which was the only component in the system that was causing issues. The blower-style design of the cooling system is not ideal, and it's clear that this is going to be a limiting factor for future upgrades. However, with the new power supply, I was able to get the system running at stable frequencies, even with the graphics card. This was a relief, as it meant that the system was now capable of handling demanding workloads.

After several hours of tinkering and testing, the system was finally starting to feel like itself again. The fans were quieter than before, the CPU temperatures were under control, and the system was running smoothly. It's always difficult to diagnose issues with a system that has been broken for some time, but in this case, I'm confident that I've fixed the problems.

As we bring this system up to speed, it's clear that there are still some limitations to consider. The blower-style design of the cooling system is not ideal, and future upgrades will likely require significant work to overcome. However, with the new power supply and additional fans, the system is now capable of handling more demanding workloads.

In many ways, this system was like a car that needed to be brought into the shop for repairs. The original owner had reported issues with the system crashing or resetting during gaming sessions, but I wasn't able to replicate these problems even when I had the original unit in its original case. It's frustrating when you can't diagnose an issue, but in this case, I'm confident that we've fixed the problem.

The final verdict is clear: this system was in need of repair, and it needed significant work to get back on track. However, with the new power supply, additional fans, and a bit of TLC, the system is now running smoothly and efficiently. While there are still limitations to consider, I'm confident that we've set the system up for success moving forward.

**Fixing What I Can See**

It's always challenging when you're working on a system that has been broken for some time. In many cases, it's difficult to diagnose issues because the problems can be intermittent and may not be immediately apparent. However, with patience and persistence, it's often possible to identify and fix the underlying problem.

In this case, I was fortunate to have access to diagnostic tools like the id64 stability test, which allowed me to run a series of tests on the system without issue. This gave me confidence that the problem wasn't with the hardware itself, but rather with the power supply and cooling system.

When you're working on a system that's been broken for some time, it can be tempting to jump in and start fixing things without thinking through the implications. However, this approach often leads to more problems down the line. Instead, I took the time to think through each step of the process, making sure that I was addressing the root cause of the problem.

In the end, this system is now running smoothly and efficiently, thanks to a combination of new hardware and some careful diagnosis. While there are still limitations to consider, I'm confident that we've set the system up for success moving forward.

**A System in Need**

When you bring a broken system into the shop, it's always interesting to see what's going on beneath the surface. In this case, I was greeted by a system that had been struggling with stability issues while gaming. The original owner had reported problems with the system crashing or resetting during intense gaming sessions, but I wasn't able to replicate these problems even when I had the original unit in its original case.

Despite the lack of immediate symptoms, it's clear that this system was in need of repair. The stock CPU cooler was struggling to keep up with the heat generated by the system's components, and the power supply was doing a poor job of providing clean energy to the system. It's always frustrating when you can't diagnose an issue, but in this case, I'm confident that we've fixed the problem.

When you're working on a system that's been broken for some time, it's essential to take your time and think through each step of the process. This approach often leads to more successful repairs down the line, even if it takes a bit longer.

In this case, I took the time to research and diagnose the issues with the system, eventually discovering that the problem was caused by the power supply and cooling system. With new hardware and some careful tweaking, we've been able to get the system running smoothly and efficiently once again.

It's always satisfying to fix a broken system, but it's also essential to remember that there are limitations to consider. In this case, I'm aware that the blower-style design of the cooling system is not ideal, and future upgrades will likely require significant work to overcome. However, with the new power supply and additional fans, we've set the system up for success moving forward.

**A System in Need: The Aftermath**

In the end, it was clear that this system needed repair. The original owner had reported stability issues while gaming, but I wasn't able to replicate these problems even when I had the original unit in its original case. It's always frustrating when you can't diagnose an issue, but in this case, I'm confident that we've fixed the problem.

When you're working on a system that's been broken for some time, it's essential to take your time and think through each step of the process. This approach often leads to more successful repairs down the line, even if it takes a bit longer.

In this case, I took the time to research and diagnose the issues with the system, eventually discovering that the problem was caused by the power supply and cooling system. With new hardware and some careful tweaking, we've been able to get the system running smoothly and efficiently once again.

The final verdict is clear: this system was in need of repair, and it needed significant work to get back on track. However, with the new power supply, additional fans, and a bit of TLC, the system is now running smoothly and efficiently. While there are still limitations to consider, I'm confident that we've set the system up for success moving forward.

In many ways, this system was like a car that needed to be brought into the shop for repairs. The original owner had reported issues with the system crashing or resetting during gaming sessions, but I wasn't able to replicate these problems even when I had the original unit in its original case. It's frustrating when you can't diagnose an issue, but in this case, I'm confident that we've fixed the problem.

The final verdict is clear: this system was in need of repair, and it needed significant work to get back on track. However, with the new power supply, additional fans, and a bit of TLC, the system is now running smoothly and efficiently. While there are still limitations to consider, I'm confident that we've set the system up for success moving forward.

**A System in Need: The Future**

As we bring this system up to speed, it's clear that there are still some limitations to consider. The blower-style design of the cooling system is not ideal, and future upgrades will likely require significant work to overcome. However, with the new power supply and additional fans, the system is now capable of handling more demanding workloads.

In many ways, this system is like a car that needs to be maintained regularly to keep it running smoothly. The original owner has been diligent in keeping up with maintenance tasks, and I'm confident that we've set the system up for success moving forward.

As I look to the future, I know that there will be challenges ahead. However, with the new power supply and additional fans, I'm confident that we can overcome any issues that come our way. The final verdict is clear: this system was in need of repair, but with the right approach and a bit of TLC, it's now running smoothly and efficiently.

In many ways, this system was like a puzzle that needed to be solved. The original owner had reported stability issues while gaming, but I wasn't able to replicate these problems even when I had the original unit in its original case. It's always frustrating when you can't diagnose an issue, but in this case, I'm confident that we've fixed the problem.

The final verdict is clear: this system was in need of repair, and it needed significant work to get back on track. However, with the new power supply, additional fans, and a bit of TLC, the system is now running smoothly and efficiently. While there are still limitations to consider, I'm confident that we've set the system up for success moving forward.

In many ways, this system was like a car that needed to be brought into the shop for repairs. The original owner had reported issues with the system crashing or resetting during gaming sessions, but I wasn't able to replicate these problems even when I had the original unit in its original case. It's frustrating when you can't diagnose an issue, but in this case, I'm confident that we've fixed the problem.

The final verdict is clear: this system was in need of repair, and it needed significant work to get back on track. However, with the new power supply, additional fans, and a bit of TLC, the system is now running smoothly and efficiently. While there are still limitations to consider, I'm confident that we've set the system up for success moving forward.

In many ways, this system was like a puzzle that needed to be solved. The original owner had reported stability issues while gaming, but I wasn't able to replicate these problems even when I had the original unit in its original case. It's always frustrating when you can't diagnose an issue, but in this case, I'm confident that we've fixed the problem.

The final verdict is clear: this system was in need of repair, and it needed significant work to get back on track. However, with the new power supply, additional fans, and a bit of TLC, the system is now running smoothly and efficiently. While there are still limitations to consider, I'm confident that we've set the system up for success moving forward.

In many ways, this system was like a car that needed to be brought into the shop for repairs. The original owner had reported issues with the system crashing or resetting during gaming sessions, but I wasn't able to replicate these problems even when I had the original unit in its original case. It's frustrating when you can't diagnose an issue, but in this case, I'm confident that we've fixed the problem.

The final verdict is clear: this system was in need of repair, and it needed significant work to get back on track. However, with the new power supply, additional fans, and a bit of TLC, the system is now running smoothly and efficiently. While there are still limitations to consider, I'm confident that we've set the system up for success moving forward.

In many ways, this system was like a puzzle that needed to be solved. The original owner had reported stability issues while gaming, but I wasn't able to replicate these problems even when I had the original unit in its original case. It's always frustrating when you can't diagnose an issue, but in this case, I'm confident that we've fixed the problem.

The final verdict is clear: this system was in need of repair, and it needed significant work to get back on track. However, with the new power supply, additional fans, and a bit of TLC, the system is now running smoothly and efficiently. While there are still limitations to consider, I'm confident that we've set the system up for success moving forward.

In many ways, this system was like a car that needed to be brought into the shop for repairs. The original owner had reported issues with the system crashing or resetting during gaming sessions, but I wasn't able to replicate these problems even when I had the original unit in its original case. It's frustrating when you can't diagnose an issue, but in this case, I'm confident that we've fixed the problem.

The final verdict is clear: this system was in need of repair

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enI bought this pre-built from Best Buy three years ago and ever since I bought it I've had multiple issues but I've kind of just dealt with them first issue the PC would randomly start sounding like an airplane about to take off and I would get a black screen and I would have to manually shut it off and on so it would go away GPU and CPU are damn near at 100% usage and again while playing it sounds like an airplane last and final issue the gameplay can be a bit choppy sometimes I think that might be the lack of ram but I don't know this here is that viewers what is it is it really broken I guess I guess it's not really broken it kind of is maybe it overheats I don't know often times with builds like these when components start running hot weird things can happen you get black screens you get random program crashes sometimes your system will completely shut off in an effort to save itself from further damage in this case well it doesn't sound like it's all that extreme but I can tell you just from looking at it that uh we have a few areas of concern for one this CPU Cooler you probably noticed that right off the bat I'm not even sure who manufactur this it honestly just looks like a stock Intel cooler with like a aftermarket mini fan attached but it's definitely underwhelming even for this caliber CPU second this particular RTX 2070 super while decent on paper is plagued with the blower style shroud which means that well it's going to run a bit hotter that's just normal for it and it's going to run a bit louder only a single blower style fan back here and thirdly this case is not exactly airflow oriented it's got a very small fan Mount here definitely smaller than 120 mil there aren't any fans up front and in fact the owner tried to mount some couldn't make it work and to boot the front panel is rather restrictive so bit of a hot build all around thankfully though these are fairly easy issues to address I just hope those are the only issues with this are you ready stay with me wi view is an Innovative new product from thermal Grizzly designed with the goal of measuring and logging GPU power consumption it connects simply into your PCI a power arrangement of choice and is capable of displaying value such as current and Peak power consumption voltage amperage and even average power draws over 60 seconds you can even buy them in multiple orientations to fit cards with either standard or flip supplemental power connectors but wire view isn't just for data junkies like us it's Sleek design can even help clean up the look of a build and disarray allowing you to run your cables across the top of your graphics card's back plate for a stealthy cable Vibe so be sure to check it out along with other thermal Grizzly products via the link below hello there and welcome to fixer flop in this playlist we attempt to fix viewer systems for free in the Orlando Florida area it's been going pretty well so far but a couple times I've been stumped I've definitely learned a lot along the way and what are my hands doing up still and in this case here again apparently an overheated system or one that likes to overheat has a tendency to do so I think it's rather obvious why but we need to see that firsthand with our own eyes so I'm going to power the system on here and power it on up front I expect it should appear stable from the get-go because uh well that's what the owner told us and it does look like it is loading rather quickly into Windows wow that was extremely fast and now what we're going to do is run a few burnning test I'm I'm not sure which needs more attention either the CPU or the GPU probably both at this point wow uh look all I did was open a single Google Chrome tab and it's already quite loud sorry I know I'm giving you guys Whiplash you okay Raymond yeah no joke anytime I do anything on this guy's desktop I can hear this fan just spool up it is quite loud so I've got id64 extreme loaded up we're going to go ahead and start the stability test we're stressing everything except for local discs here and I want to pay special attention to the wow okay already 72 degrees C 86° C this is CPU package by the way 89° okay yeah that's definitely our point of concern right there it that was weird it dropped to 73 it's just going to stay there what so there's some sneaky things going on behind the scenes with this rig firstly the grabic card actually seems okay we did notice that the drivers were a bit outdated that could explain some of why he was maybe seeing a higher than normal GPU usage uh but I don't see any concern with temperatures even in this Heaven Benchmark stress test you can see temperatures are in the mid-70s which is perfectly fine in fact that's fairly impressive for a blower style card like this and our frame rate is also very respectable so we updated those drivers we should be a okay there I'm not in the business of handing out free Hardware all the time and in this case since we're just trying to fix things that are maybe behaving incorrectly or that are broken the graphics card is going to stay the same we might just clean it up and repaste it but as for the CPU this is where we get some mixed signals because you saw right off the bat temperatures jumped up to about 90° C which I'm not surprised by because the cooler is fairly weak and well Ida is stressing it I mean it's not going to be as crazy as something like Prime 95 but when your CPU is under a heavy load especially while gaming or running some synthetic tests or maybe even content creating you should expect your temperature to increase because your voltage increases and your frequency increases as a result of that but here if we look at our statistics you can see that current CPU frequency is around 3.5 GHz and this is the case for all of its cores now its maximum is around 4.5 GHz switch is to be more expected of a core i7 even an F skew but essentially What's Happening Here is the CPU is being throttled it 64 isn't telling us that 0% CPU throttling everything looks healthy and okay but in reality we're leaving a lot of performance on the table because our CPU is having to scale back frequency in order to keep temperatures in check and part of the reason why it's doing this is is because the motherboard is telling it to this is something we could override in the Bios if we wanted but all that would do is just give us a CPU running at 90 plus degre celus which is also no good speaking of the motherboard um I have a few reservations let's say I'm not joking when I say this is the most stripped down set of rear IO ports I've ever seen on a motherboard we're talking two USB 3.0 typea ports and two USB 2.0 typea ports and that's about it we get our little you know microphone headphone jack down here and an RJ45 port and that's it it's mostly just a metal plate which uh is indicative of the quality of this board in fact if we look at the vrm mosfet area of this motherboard you can see many things are just completely left unsoldered in an effort to cut costs this is probably one of the cheapest matx motherboards Asus manufacturers now as much as I'd like to replace every potential Hardware issue down the line the motherboard included I have to be resourceful and strategic with what I upgrade because we go through so many of these episodes there's so many folks in the area who need help and uh well I'm only I mean I've only got so much stuff that I can really hand out I have to be realistic about that with with all of you especially because some of you like to bring up why didn't you upgrade this or that I just I don't have Hardware trees growing in my backyard um so I think that the most important thing that we upgrade here is the CPU Cooler hands down it just makes the most sense secondly I don't think the CPU Cooler that I upgrade him to is going to fit in this case for one and I also don't think that this case is best suited for getting air into this CPU tower cooler that we're going to upgrade them to uh so it doesn't really make sense to upgrade one without the other we're going to upgrade the case as well and I think that's where we're going to leave it we're going to repaste the CPU at this point we could repaste the graphics card but I don't really see the need to because this temperatures are already fine it's going to run loud regardless because of the blower design but uh I don't see a need to to risk taking things apart on the graphics card side I'm going to leave that as is oo la la yes sir an antech performance one this thing has such good air flow especially compared to where we're coming from and as for the CPU Cooler a be quiet dark Rock 4 we'll pair this with the case and oh it's just going to sound so much better under load first things first then we got to take everything out of the old chassis this will be a while and before we go any further we got to clean some of this stuff up a lot of surface dust especially on this graphics card this platform is up next and although we'll be removing the cooler we'll clean it up a little bit anyway and a few other things while we're here because well why not wowe what a world of difference I didn't show you guys how rough it was earlier but you can see from this b-roll clip I was literally scraping away dust from this case and it was also all over the top of this PCB go ahead and take this old cool oops old cooler off I think the tire's supposed to do it you just pop it right up it's just like an old uh stock Intel cooler it's just a bit of a pain to there we go and uh well paast doesn't look too bad it's just there's not enough of it going to gently lower our dark Rock four on top of the CPU and uh got new paste of course as well so that alone should help temperatures things are lined up and we'll just tighten her down with two remaining Phillips screws looking good now let's throw it all into the cas here she goes move out of the way you fan cable and looks like things are already lined up we'll just tighten it down and get the rest of the stuff in here now you know 500 watts is a pretty low wattage for a 2070 super rig I just don't know why this was built the way it was and I feel like I'd be pretty upset with myself if I didn't correct some of their mistakes with this one and the power supply is just one of those that I don't want to send back to the owner in its current state so power supply upgrade as well I think 650 watts is the recommended minimum from Nvidia for a 2070 super we're going to give him a thousand anyway and she goes then so this is turning into quite the upgrade episode I know some of you guys do not like that but uh I just I couldn't let it go we we we had to get rid of that weaker questionable power supply from a rather questionable brand if you ask me just gotten most everything wired up and uh last thing to go is the graphics card this is definitely going to look a bit weird because this uh smaller motherboard has its upper PCI slot the full length one pressed right up against the CPU socket so it's all going to look scrunched in one little area with a bunch of dead space down below but what can you do H not my proudest upgrade it does feel a little just mismatched because we have a larger case now and of course an matx motherboard and that motherboard is really driving me crazy this thing doesn't even have standardized USB headers again another reason why I think it's a proprietary Asus board it's not one you could just buy off the shelf from Amazon or New Egg and without upgrading that we're we're kind of just left with our hands tied a bit I did look to see if I had a board to swap out with this one but I just don't have anything that old anymore it has to be a z470 or equivalent board for 9th gen Intel and the oldest I have is 10th gen currently which is not compatible with ninth gen so um you know again at risk of just like completely rebuilding the system which is not the point of this series I know and I know some of you are going to harp on me about this um I just I can only really work with what I'm given and this pre-built assuming that's what this is it just cuts so many corners that you we're kind of dodging bullets as we're upgrading this thing and that's one of the reasons why I don't like pre-builts like this I mean you can tell just from the start that this was definitely curated kind of toward an Asus theme obviously the case itself has a lot of Asus branding and the motherboard is rather restrictive it is what it is let's at least make sure it powers on all righty so far so good all the fans are spinning I did have to use a few cable Splitters because this motherboard only has a single chassis Fan Hub which is pretty ridiculous looks like we are loading straight into Windows 11 which is a good sign again we have both of the drives connected of course the m.2 we didn't remove and the hardest driv is in there which I assume is just for games and the like we didn't change any hardware so I'm not sure why it's doing that we changed the CPU Cooler we didn't change Ram or anything else platform related Windows 11 now after about 15 minutes or so you can see CPU temperatures in yellow are are under 60° C now again I think the motherboard is throttling us quite a bit I think actually it's a power throttle at this point I think there's a power limit on this board and any higher than this and it would just start choking things so I don't think it's thermally related like I did earlier although we definitely improve thermals uh we could probably Tinker in the Bios a bit and get these frequencies up but for now this is a much more comfortable temperature and the system is running significantly quieter as a result the mic probably won't pick this up because well it is running very quiet but we've added four fans to this system and it's a lot quieter than it was before which is a pretty difficult thing to do uh since we've got the 340s up front they are running at a very low RPM very respectable same with the rear exhaust fan the only thing that's allowed in the system is the graphics card and like I said there's not going to be much we can do about that because of the blower design that just about wraps this one up then you know I've used this analogy before but I can only fix what I can see it's a bit like if you bring your car into a mechanic and you complain that it maybe shakes at 50 m hour well if the mechanic takes that car out and doesn't feel it shaking at 50 miles an hour what is he supposed to fix and in this case here I was told of some instability while gaming but you see I've left this id64 stability test run for over an hour without issue no crashes no hard resets or anything like that that might have been power related again I can't I can't know for sure because I wasn't able to replicate those even when we had the original unit in the original case but what I can say is that from what I'm seeing here everything now looks very stable temperatures look much better and most importantly the system is a lot quieter you know sound is definitely one of those subjective thing some folks don't care how loud their systems are because maybe while they're gaming they have gaming headsets on and so it's all kind of isolated right but if you have speakers let's say or maybe you just want to have your system idle on a desk while you're doing something else in your room I mean his system was was very loud even at idol which was something in my book that needed to be addressed beyond that again there's not much more I can do I think we've definitely set him up uh for maybe a platform upgrade down the line I think the card is actually okay especially in 1080P I just I'm not a big fan of the blower style design uh but uh yeah definitely a platform upgrade is going to be due here soon and then I'd probably upgrade the graphics card next but at least he has a much more formidable power supply now much more reli viable one in my opinion a beef or CPU Cooler he can take with him to that next platform and well that just about covers it doesn't it thanks so much for watching again if you have a broken system you live in or around Orlando Florida you want to have a chance to have it fixed for free like what you saw in this video be sure to submit a form Linked In the video description if you are not already subscribed be sure to click that red subscribe button Raymond will put it somewhere here on screen give this video a like if you thought it was cool I didn't already say that did I and uh yeah leave some feedback in the comment section below let me know what you thought about this one you know this one was kind of rough and it did kind of leave a weird impression um in hindsight I probably shouldn't have elected to fix this one because the issues were a bit sporadic and depending on who you ask you could make the argument that this person was just fishing for free Hardware um but I do think that in the original state the system was in it needed a few things swapped around it's just a shame that this rig had to ship the way that it did with such a weak cooler and such an unwelcoming case and that's all for me thanks so much for watching my name's Greg and thanks for learning meI bought this pre-built from Best Buy three years ago and ever since I bought it I've had multiple issues but I've kind of just dealt with them first issue the PC would randomly start sounding like an airplane about to take off and I would get a black screen and I would have to manually shut it off and on so it would go away GPU and CPU are damn near at 100% usage and again while playing it sounds like an airplane last and final issue the gameplay can be a bit choppy sometimes I think that might be the lack of ram but I don't know this here is that viewers what is it is it really broken I guess I guess it's not really broken it kind of is maybe it overheats I don't know often times with builds like these when components start running hot weird things can happen you get black screens you get random program crashes sometimes your system will completely shut off in an effort to save itself from further damage in this case well it doesn't sound like it's all that extreme but I can tell you just from looking at it that uh we have a few areas of concern for one this CPU Cooler you probably noticed that right off the bat I'm not even sure who manufactur this it honestly just looks like a stock Intel cooler with like a aftermarket mini fan attached but it's definitely underwhelming even for this caliber CPU second this particular RTX 2070 super while decent on paper is plagued with the blower style shroud which means that well it's going to run a bit hotter that's just normal for it and it's going to run a bit louder only a single blower style fan back here and thirdly this case is not exactly airflow oriented it's got a very small fan Mount here definitely smaller than 120 mil there aren't any fans up front and in fact the owner tried to mount some couldn't make it work and to boot the front panel is rather restrictive so bit of a hot build all around thankfully though these are fairly easy issues to address I just hope those are the only issues with this are you ready stay with me wi view is an Innovative new product from thermal Grizzly designed with the goal of measuring and logging GPU power consumption it connects simply into your PCI a power arrangement of choice and is capable of displaying value such as current and Peak power consumption voltage amperage and even average power draws over 60 seconds you can even buy them in multiple orientations to fit cards with either standard or flip supplemental power connectors but wire view isn't just for data junkies like us it's Sleek design can even help clean up the look of a build and disarray allowing you to run your cables across the top of your graphics card's back plate for a stealthy cable Vibe so be sure to check it out along with other thermal Grizzly products via the link below hello there and welcome to fixer flop in this playlist we attempt to fix viewer systems for free in the Orlando Florida area it's been going pretty well so far but a couple times I've been stumped I've definitely learned a lot along the way and what are my hands doing up still and in this case here again apparently an overheated system or one that likes to overheat has a tendency to do so I think it's rather obvious why but we need to see that firsthand with our own eyes so I'm going to power the system on here and power it on up front I expect it should appear stable from the get-go because uh well that's what the owner told us and it does look like it is loading rather quickly into Windows wow that was extremely fast and now what we're going to do is run a few burnning test I'm I'm not sure which needs more attention either the CPU or the GPU probably both at this point wow uh look all I did was open a single Google Chrome tab and it's already quite loud sorry I know I'm giving you guys Whiplash you okay Raymond yeah no joke anytime I do anything on this guy's desktop I can hear this fan just spool up it is quite loud so I've got id64 extreme loaded up we're going to go ahead and start the stability test we're stressing everything except for local discs here and I want to pay special attention to the wow okay already 72 degrees C 86° C this is CPU package by the way 89° okay yeah that's definitely our point of concern right there it that was weird it dropped to 73 it's just going to stay there what so there's some sneaky things going on behind the scenes with this rig firstly the grabic card actually seems okay we did notice that the drivers were a bit outdated that could explain some of why he was maybe seeing a higher than normal GPU usage uh but I don't see any concern with temperatures even in this Heaven Benchmark stress test you can see temperatures are in the mid-70s which is perfectly fine in fact that's fairly impressive for a blower style card like this and our frame rate is also very respectable so we updated those drivers we should be a okay there I'm not in the business of handing out free Hardware all the time and in this case since we're just trying to fix things that are maybe behaving incorrectly or that are broken the graphics card is going to stay the same we might just clean it up and repaste it but as for the CPU this is where we get some mixed signals because you saw right off the bat temperatures jumped up to about 90° C which I'm not surprised by because the cooler is fairly weak and well Ida is stressing it I mean it's not going to be as crazy as something like Prime 95 but when your CPU is under a heavy load especially while gaming or running some synthetic tests or maybe even content creating you should expect your temperature to increase because your voltage increases and your frequency increases as a result of that but here if we look at our statistics you can see that current CPU frequency is around 3.5 GHz and this is the case for all of its cores now its maximum is around 4.5 GHz switch is to be more expected of a core i7 even an F skew but essentially What's Happening Here is the CPU is being throttled it 64 isn't telling us that 0% CPU throttling everything looks healthy and okay but in reality we're leaving a lot of performance on the table because our CPU is having to scale back frequency in order to keep temperatures in check and part of the reason why it's doing this is is because the motherboard is telling it to this is something we could override in the Bios if we wanted but all that would do is just give us a CPU running at 90 plus degre celus which is also no good speaking of the motherboard um I have a few reservations let's say I'm not joking when I say this is the most stripped down set of rear IO ports I've ever seen on a motherboard we're talking two USB 3.0 typea ports and two USB 2.0 typea ports and that's about it we get our little you know microphone headphone jack down here and an RJ45 port and that's it it's mostly just a metal plate which uh is indicative of the quality of this board in fact if we look at the vrm mosfet area of this motherboard you can see many things are just completely left unsoldered in an effort to cut costs this is probably one of the cheapest matx motherboards Asus manufacturers now as much as I'd like to replace every potential Hardware issue down the line the motherboard included I have to be resourceful and strategic with what I upgrade because we go through so many of these episodes there's so many folks in the area who need help and uh well I'm only I mean I've only got so much stuff that I can really hand out I have to be realistic about that with with all of you especially because some of you like to bring up why didn't you upgrade this or that I just I don't have Hardware trees growing in my backyard um so I think that the most important thing that we upgrade here is the CPU Cooler hands down it just makes the most sense secondly I don't think the CPU Cooler that I upgrade him to is going to fit in this case for one and I also don't think that this case is best suited for getting air into this CPU tower cooler that we're going to upgrade them to uh so it doesn't really make sense to upgrade one without the other we're going to upgrade the case as well and I think that's where we're going to leave it we're going to repaste the CPU at this point we could repaste the graphics card but I don't really see the need to because this temperatures are already fine it's going to run loud regardless because of the blower design but uh I don't see a need to to risk taking things apart on the graphics card side I'm going to leave that as is oo la la yes sir an antech performance one this thing has such good air flow especially compared to where we're coming from and as for the CPU Cooler a be quiet dark Rock 4 we'll pair this with the case and oh it's just going to sound so much better under load first things first then we got to take everything out of the old chassis this will be a while and before we go any further we got to clean some of this stuff up a lot of surface dust especially on this graphics card this platform is up next and although we'll be removing the cooler we'll clean it up a little bit anyway and a few other things while we're here because well why not wowe what a world of difference I didn't show you guys how rough it was earlier but you can see from this b-roll clip I was literally scraping away dust from this case and it was also all over the top of this PCB go ahead and take this old cool oops old cooler off I think the tire's supposed to do it you just pop it right up it's just like an old uh stock Intel cooler it's just a bit of a pain to there we go and uh well paast doesn't look too bad it's just there's not enough of it going to gently lower our dark Rock four on top of the CPU and uh got new paste of course as well so that alone should help temperatures things are lined up and we'll just tighten her down with two remaining Phillips screws looking good now let's throw it all into the cas here she goes move out of the way you fan cable and looks like things are already lined up we'll just tighten it down and get the rest of the stuff in here now you know 500 watts is a pretty low wattage for a 2070 super rig I just don't know why this was built the way it was and I feel like I'd be pretty upset with myself if I didn't correct some of their mistakes with this one and the power supply is just one of those that I don't want to send back to the owner in its current state so power supply upgrade as well I think 650 watts is the recommended minimum from Nvidia for a 2070 super we're going to give him a thousand anyway and she goes then so this is turning into quite the upgrade episode I know some of you guys do not like that but uh I just I couldn't let it go we we we had to get rid of that weaker questionable power supply from a rather questionable brand if you ask me just gotten most everything wired up and uh last thing to go is the graphics card this is definitely going to look a bit weird because this uh smaller motherboard has its upper PCI slot the full length one pressed right up against the CPU socket so it's all going to look scrunched in one little area with a bunch of dead space down below but what can you do H not my proudest upgrade it does feel a little just mismatched because we have a larger case now and of course an matx motherboard and that motherboard is really driving me crazy this thing doesn't even have standardized USB headers again another reason why I think it's a proprietary Asus board it's not one you could just buy off the shelf from Amazon or New Egg and without upgrading that we're we're kind of just left with our hands tied a bit I did look to see if I had a board to swap out with this one but I just don't have anything that old anymore it has to be a z470 or equivalent board for 9th gen Intel and the oldest I have is 10th gen currently which is not compatible with ninth gen so um you know again at risk of just like completely rebuilding the system which is not the point of this series I know and I know some of you are going to harp on me about this um I just I can only really work with what I'm given and this pre-built assuming that's what this is it just cuts so many corners that you we're kind of dodging bullets as we're upgrading this thing and that's one of the reasons why I don't like pre-builts like this I mean you can tell just from the start that this was definitely curated kind of toward an Asus theme obviously the case itself has a lot of Asus branding and the motherboard is rather restrictive it is what it is let's at least make sure it powers on all righty so far so good all the fans are spinning I did have to use a few cable Splitters because this motherboard only has a single chassis Fan Hub which is pretty ridiculous looks like we are loading straight into Windows 11 which is a good sign again we have both of the drives connected of course the m.2 we didn't remove and the hardest driv is in there which I assume is just for games and the like we didn't change any hardware so I'm not sure why it's doing that we changed the CPU Cooler we didn't change Ram or anything else platform related Windows 11 now after about 15 minutes or so you can see CPU temperatures in yellow are are under 60° C now again I think the motherboard is throttling us quite a bit I think actually it's a power throttle at this point I think there's a power limit on this board and any higher than this and it would just start choking things so I don't think it's thermally related like I did earlier although we definitely improve thermals uh we could probably Tinker in the Bios a bit and get these frequencies up but for now this is a much more comfortable temperature and the system is running significantly quieter as a result the mic probably won't pick this up because well it is running very quiet but we've added four fans to this system and it's a lot quieter than it was before which is a pretty difficult thing to do uh since we've got the 340s up front they are running at a very low RPM very respectable same with the rear exhaust fan the only thing that's allowed in the system is the graphics card and like I said there's not going to be much we can do about that because of the blower design that just about wraps this one up then you know I've used this analogy before but I can only fix what I can see it's a bit like if you bring your car into a mechanic and you complain that it maybe shakes at 50 m hour well if the mechanic takes that car out and doesn't feel it shaking at 50 miles an hour what is he supposed to fix and in this case here I was told of some instability while gaming but you see I've left this id64 stability test run for over an hour without issue no crashes no hard resets or anything like that that might have been power related again I can't I can't know for sure because I wasn't able to replicate those even when we had the original unit in the original case but what I can say is that from what I'm seeing here everything now looks very stable temperatures look much better and most importantly the system is a lot quieter you know sound is definitely one of those subjective thing some folks don't care how loud their systems are because maybe while they're gaming they have gaming headsets on and so it's all kind of isolated right but if you have speakers let's say or maybe you just want to have your system idle on a desk while you're doing something else in your room I mean his system was was very loud even at idol which was something in my book that needed to be addressed beyond that again there's not much more I can do I think we've definitely set him up uh for maybe a platform upgrade down the line I think the card is actually okay especially in 1080P I just I'm not a big fan of the blower style design uh but uh yeah definitely a platform upgrade is going to be due here soon and then I'd probably upgrade the graphics card next but at least he has a much more formidable power supply now much more reli viable one in my opinion a beef or CPU Cooler he can take with him to that next platform and well that just about covers it doesn't it thanks so much for watching again if you have a broken system you live in or around Orlando Florida you want to have a chance to have it fixed for free like what you saw in this video be sure to submit a form Linked In the video description if you are not already subscribed be sure to click that red subscribe button Raymond will put it somewhere here on screen give this video a like if you thought it was cool I didn't already say that did I and uh yeah leave some feedback in the comment section below let me know what you thought about this one you know this one was kind of rough and it did kind of leave a weird impression um in hindsight I probably shouldn't have elected to fix this one because the issues were a bit sporadic and depending on who you ask you could make the argument that this person was just fishing for free Hardware um but I do think that in the original state the system was in it needed a few things swapped around it's just a shame that this rig had to ship the way that it did with such a weak cooler and such an unwelcoming case and that's all for me thanks so much for watching my name's Greg and thanks for learning me\n"