**Upgrading the Quad: A Journey of Discovery**

As I embarked on this project, I knew that one of the most important aspects to consider was troubleshooting and diagnosing any issues that may arise with the quad. With an OBD-to-reader connected to the sensor, I could identify error codes and troubleshoot problems in real-time. This was a crucial aspect, especially when living in the woods, where having access to repair information could be the difference between a safe return or a stranded night.

The gauge cluster connector is another vital component that requires attention. This is where the key connection is made, and it's essential to ensure that it's secure and functioning correctly. The miscellaneous wires are also worth noting, as they control various functions such as turn signals, brake lights, and headlight operation. It's fascinating to see how these seemingly complex systems can be broken down into individual components.

One of the most significant upgrades I plan to make is converting the thumb-base throttle to a twist throttle. This will not only improve the overall driving experience but also provide more control over the quad's speed and agility. While it may seem like an unnecessary upgrade, it will allow for better performance in specific situations, such as wheelies.

To get a better understanding of the battery size and fitment, I created a replica using wood. This proved to be an invaluable exercise, allowing me to visualize how the battery would interact with the quad's frame. The battery itself is massive, weighing over 150 pounds. While this presents some logistical challenges, it also opens up opportunities for creative problem-solving.

The power output of this upgraded motor promises to be substantial, potentially doubling the original Raptor 7 electric motor's performance. With its unique torque profile and ability to produce power throughout a wider range of RPMs, I'm excited to see how it will impact the quad's overall behavior. However, figuring out the optimal sprocket setup and chain configuration poses another significant challenge.

In this next phase of the project, I'll be mounting the motor into the quad, carefully considering factors such as placement, welding quality, and structural integrity. Will there be shoddy welding? Only time will tell. But one thing is certain: with each new discovery comes a greater appreciation for the intricate mechanics involved in creating a high-performance electric quad.

**Battery and Power Output**

The battery itself is an impressive feature of this upgraded motor. Its size is substantial, weighing over 150 pounds. While this presents some logistical challenges, it also opens up opportunities for creative problem-solving. To better understand how the battery would interact with the quad's frame, I created a replica using wood. This exercise proved invaluable, allowing me to visualize how the battery would fit within the quad's dimensions.

The power output of this upgraded motor promises to be substantial, potentially doubling the original Raptor 7 electric motor's performance. With its unique torque profile and ability to produce power throughout a wider range of RPMs, I'm excited to see how it will impact the quad's overall behavior. This newfound power output will undoubtedly enhance the driving experience, offering improved acceleration, agility, and control.

**Sprocket Setup and Chain Configuration**

Another significant challenge lies in figuring out the optimal sprocket setup and chain configuration for this upgraded motor. The original belt drive has been replaced with a tooth-driven gear, which presents new possibilities for customization. I must carefully consider what type of tooth arrangement to use – welded teeth onto the gear or something else entirely.

This decision will not only affect the overall performance but also the quad's aesthetics. Will the added complexity be worth it? Only time will tell as I embark on this exciting journey of experimentation and discovery.

**Motor Placement and Structural Integrity**

As I continue with this project, I'll be mounting the motor into the quad, carefully considering factors such as placement and structural integrity. Where will the motor go? How will it interact with the existing frame? The welding process will also be crucial in ensuring a secure connection between the motor and the quad.

While some might find this aspect of the project daunting, I see it as an opportunity to refine my skills and push the boundaries of what's possible. The end result promises to be a truly exceptional electric quad – one that showcases the potential of modern engineering and design.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhey guys Richard rich rebuilds hair back with my cyber quad build now in the last episode I found a cheap ATV on Facebook marketplace to build a Tesla cyber quad and I quickly realized it had a few issues number one when I try to ride it the clutch cutter was slipping on the shaft and the teeth were gone so I couldn't tighten it down so I ended up tacking it in place and by TACC I mean full-on welding two pieces of metal together because attacker just a small dot not the four miles of welding spool that I used now while taking it apart I also noticed the rear the quad was red and the front was blue so that the rear part was definitely replaced at some point likely due to a crash not to mention the random handful of nuts that I found the airbox and in the end I tried to use less than conventional methods of getting the rear swingarm bolt out it's actually a very common issue with these getting stuck as they warp very easily so I jacked the rounder the quad up to take the pressure off the bolt and still nothing and I hate to do this but sometimes you got to do what you got to do I had two RTFM read the freaking manual time to about the manual and make damn sure I'm not missing something now unfortunately this didn't come with one so I'm gonna stroll over to Emmanuel now if you aren't familiar check this out because they have a manual for almost anything check out the link in the description box below they have manuals for all kinds of obscure stuff you never thought of for example I'm really good at laying pipe I don't need this stuff but if you need a manual for your pipe layer to have a pipe laying section anyways I grabbed a raptor download and make sure there's nothing secretly threaded in there that I'm missing and after looking at the manual it all checks out so it's probably just bent from the guy that owned it before when he tried to jump a house now let's see how clever I can get moving this swing arm bolt nothing I was doing was working I looked at a few videos online that suggested an air hammer which I do not have however milwaukee has one but by the time I get it I would have lost interest in the project altogether so naturally I'm gonna do things the aggressive way party melting the bearings in the right now at this point now Medicare that's what this thing out so as you can see that giant ass hammer that we purchased just wasn't gonna fit the bill for this I've been actually hitting that pivot point over and over again and it just wasn't going anywhere I spray lubricant I started using heat this thing is just not going anywhere and I finally realized that I actually have to cut this bolt out this bolt right here going through is actually bent and that's the reason why we couldn't knock it out this tool absolutely saved me it's a three inch cutoff wheel and it uses their their 12 volt system I'll have a link of this description below but this is awesome because I can actually get in there this tool right here this cutoff wheel I couldn't use I tried using the Dremel as well the Dremel can't really get in there because it's just far too long I would have to get the right angle adapter to make it go up and down but that was 25 bucks and it would take at least a week to get here shipping wise also I tried this this cutting blade as well and that wasn't cutting it either because it was just too long to get in there the best tool that I've been using so far it's just it's just awesome I just do this so I go in here I flip it around and I can just start cutting that easily so I'll start doing that right now for you you now that that's out let's get this thing a bath the worst decision I've made so far was thinking it was a good idea to ride the bike through dirt wait till it dried and then proceeded to take it apart you know I've been sourcing what's gonna be the electric drivetrain to swap out the Yamaha 700 cc motor and I'm probably gonna go with you may have guessed it a zero battery motor and controller after seeing what the zero component stood for the rat rod imagine what it could do for something that weighs hundreds of pounds less so well then one of my buddy Gus's shop at Argo cycles in the blizzard to pick up my Rexy or motorcycle that I ridiculously overpaid for let's do it you'll be fine can I stop falling it - yeah get everyone dude where's this going ah in a Quan now I will say a Tesla pulling a trailer in the snow is interesting you lose half your range because it's cold and you lose the other half because you're towing and since Tesla removed your super charging access on a car you've had for 5 years now and expectedly it made the ride home that much more fun but I'm not bitter now that it's home let's take this zero apart ok so I have the zero in the air now and this one's actually pretty different from the last one I took apart number one the damage for this battery pack is a lot higher than the last one if you look back here there's actually a dent inside the case and there's actually two pretty large gouges that you could definitely see from the side this bike was a lot more trash than the last one the good thing about this bike too though it actually has the advanced charging which is good there's a lot of cracked wiring harnesses here there's a lot more work to be done on this one and I'm not really sure if this is even going to make it or not if you look at the screen I eat a new one of those I don't have the key for this one so it has to be hot-wired I got to point out of here in the accident as well but this thing got really really really really jacked off good thing it has a five year warranty so now I hope with that heavy front case damage I could see whether or not I could call zero and be like hey I need a new battery so we'll see how this goes I'm gonna keep taking this thing apart now according to my great eyeball calculations the battery should fit right at home in the Raptor frame so I'm gonna build this wooden box based on the size of the zero battery and see how it fits the problem with the zero battery is that it's so damn heavy it's much easier to play around with a light box instead of this heavy battery this is how the battery box is gonna look when it's in the quad it's a bit wide isn't it next we're going to talk about the fabrication of the steel panels for the quad and also the components that make up the conversion for the zero I realized that this bumper looks a little goofy in the first place it actually doesn't fit the dimensions in the overall look on the side reply so what we're going to do is we've actually going to cut these two tubes off are we going to use these tubes as a mounting point for the steel panel that has to go in the front because look so it's kind of bulbous and anything that's round on a bulbous remember that word and anything that's running to several parts make more sense because the quad itself everything's very angular and geometric so the size of these are curved like the current TV that I hope no one owns the most wretched disgusting things well let him do messy end up cutting these two holes off right here and that's what I'm gonna use to it fix the steel sheet to the front of why I'm getting rid of this but before I get that sheet I just want to let you guys know that this is Nicole speaker I've been using for quite some time now and they sent me their new and improved version that has some really cool features it connects the Bluetooth very quickly and that's a really cool party trick great this look at that full stereo 360 sound I had to put one here I won the other and be a by the beautiful sounds of this thing put soft is nothing like this and most importantly I listen my favorite music alright so Cole sent me the speaker but you could get yours for a limited time only you get 60% off one of these 700 untime check one of these bad boys out there great alright so we just pulled apart to zero and this is kind of where we're at from electronics these are all the things that we're going to need for the electric conversion today there's obviously a lot more components that are needed and typically they're a little bit larger to make decent power but these are the main components right here - the battery oh that's the battery in a second this right here is a controller made by subcon this is the DC to DC converter made by subcon as well this is the actual AC to DC charger made by green watt power and what this does is when you actually plug your your charger into the wall it converts it from AC to DC through them and charge the battery with values of DC now right here you'll look at this and you'll see these are the phase wires that go from this motor to the controller itself there's three of those phases and is also two wires here that connect via the positive and negative from the battery to actually activate the power of the controller itself so now this is the DC to DC converter what this does is this takes the hundred volts from the battery itself because the zero motor is a hundred volt battery it takes a hundred volts from the battery and it knocks it down to about 13 and a half volts to control the accessories in the in the quad so a lot of vehicles what they use is they'll have a DC DC converter as well as a battery this one does not use a 12 volt individual battery it just goes right through the DC to DC and this powers the accessories for the lights and the turn signals and also powering off the cluster - so right here this is the main connector that goes to the battery you'll see these four lines right here you see a positive and negative obviously the negative lead goes to the controller and the positive goes to the positive side of the controller right hey you have your built-in fuse block and even cooler you already have your obd so there's any issues with it you could actually just plug in an obd to sensor sorry obd to reader rather and you can see any error codes that are happening with the with the quad itself so i thought was a very important aspect so if you're living out in the woods something goes wrong at least you'll be able to diagnose it and troubleshoot the issue on the fly over on this side here we have the connector that goes to the gauge cluster itself this is for the key and right here you have miscellaneous wires these are for the turn signal stocks and also the leads that go to the the taillight so you have your front right front left that goes to the turn signals you have your brake light in there as well as the the headlight which is right here the last two most important ones one the throttle and this is the throttle that obviously controls how fast you're going now there's one main difference between this and this twist throttle and the other throttle that's currently on the quad itself over here the quad a lot of sport quads come with a thumb base throttle alright and we're actually gonna convert this to a twist throttle why reinvent the wheel when you could actually just you know why am I actually picking up a new solution to keep it as a throttle what I can just leave it as the twist would be a lot easier that way it makes things a little bit more interesting if you want to get off fancy and flashy and do burnouts and stuff like that it's a lot easier to do with the thumb but in terms of doing wheelies it's a lot easier to twist throttle this is my magnificent battery blocks that create as you can see I just made it and it's already falling apart this was just to get a perspective as to how big the battery is going to be and how it's going to fit inside the quiett so this is an exact replica of the size of the Z remodelers and that model is the battery weighs about 150 pounds or so which is right here that's 150 pounds this is a representation of this so I can kind of configure it and put it inside via the quad itself so we can see just how it fits in there and if you look at those pictures that I have up on the screen that's how it fits inside the box so that's how the wooden box is gonna fit inside the quad this is how the batteries in the look it's gonna be tilted at an angle this is just kind of loosely put in here but it actually fits which was awesome but because this is so damn big and it really fits we should be getting decent rains out of it one downside is that it is very heavy which isn't ideal I'm hoping that the power makes up for it this would be a very powerful setup I know you're thinking to yourselves well wait a minute most electric quads that you'll see you'll actually have you know a much smaller battery maybe one that's cut the half that's half the size of this and you'll have a motor on the inside but as you'll see there's actually no room for the motor anymore so I have to get really clever in terms of motor placement am I gonna remove the whole battery put it at the side and put the motor in here but either way something has to happen in order for it to go forward because as of right now there's not really much I can do about it now the motors gonna be interesting because this is gonna make about I would say double the power double the horsepower and double the torque of the original Raptor 7 electric motor that was in there it's going to make torque much much sooner than that gas engine is because that one has to rev up to a certain rpm you have a very specific power band with that whereas this it's making power and torque pretty much all the time from the get-go off the line all right so the other interesting part is figuring out how I'm going to have a sprocket on this instead of this belt drive this is originally belt drive it goes from the front of the motor to the rear sprocket which is a very large sprocket into zeros what I want is I want actually a tooth driven gear here instead of having a belt so popping this off and figuring out what do I want to do do I actually want to weld the teeth onto this to accommodate the chain or what kind of setup do I want here that's me the other interesting part that I have you have to figure out so it's placement and also what the hell I'm gonna do well boys and girls I hope you enjoyed this episode the next episode will be mounting of the motor into the quad where's it gonna go will there be shoddy welding next week don't forget the caching on instagram at richie be kid and as usual I will see you guys soonhey guys Richard rich rebuilds hair back with my cyber quad build now in the last episode I found a cheap ATV on Facebook marketplace to build a Tesla cyber quad and I quickly realized it had a few issues number one when I try to ride it the clutch cutter was slipping on the shaft and the teeth were gone so I couldn't tighten it down so I ended up tacking it in place and by TACC I mean full-on welding two pieces of metal together because attacker just a small dot not the four miles of welding spool that I used now while taking it apart I also noticed the rear the quad was red and the front was blue so that the rear part was definitely replaced at some point likely due to a crash not to mention the random handful of nuts that I found the airbox and in the end I tried to use less than conventional methods of getting the rear swingarm bolt out it's actually a very common issue with these getting stuck as they warp very easily so I jacked the rounder the quad up to take the pressure off the bolt and still nothing and I hate to do this but sometimes you got to do what you got to do I had two RTFM read the freaking manual time to about the manual and make damn sure I'm not missing something now unfortunately this didn't come with one so I'm gonna stroll over to Emmanuel now if you aren't familiar check this out because they have a manual for almost anything check out the link in the description box below they have manuals for all kinds of obscure stuff you never thought of for example I'm really good at laying pipe I don't need this stuff but if you need a manual for your pipe layer to have a pipe laying section anyways I grabbed a raptor download and make sure there's nothing secretly threaded in there that I'm missing and after looking at the manual it all checks out so it's probably just bent from the guy that owned it before when he tried to jump a house now let's see how clever I can get moving this swing arm bolt nothing I was doing was working I looked at a few videos online that suggested an air hammer which I do not have however milwaukee has one but by the time I get it I would have lost interest in the project altogether so naturally I'm gonna do things the aggressive way party melting the bearings in the right now at this point now Medicare that's what this thing out so as you can see that giant ass hammer that we purchased just wasn't gonna fit the bill for this I've been actually hitting that pivot point over and over again and it just wasn't going anywhere I spray lubricant I started using heat this thing is just not going anywhere and I finally realized that I actually have to cut this bolt out this bolt right here going through is actually bent and that's the reason why we couldn't knock it out this tool absolutely saved me it's a three inch cutoff wheel and it uses their their 12 volt system I'll have a link of this description below but this is awesome because I can actually get in there this tool right here this cutoff wheel I couldn't use I tried using the Dremel as well the Dremel can't really get in there because it's just far too long I would have to get the right angle adapter to make it go up and down but that was 25 bucks and it would take at least a week to get here shipping wise also I tried this this cutting blade as well and that wasn't cutting it either because it was just too long to get in there the best tool that I've been using so far it's just it's just awesome I just do this so I go in here I flip it around and I can just start cutting that easily so I'll start doing that right now for you you now that that's out let's get this thing a bath the worst decision I've made so far was thinking it was a good idea to ride the bike through dirt wait till it dried and then proceeded to take it apart you know I've been sourcing what's gonna be the electric drivetrain to swap out the Yamaha 700 cc motor and I'm probably gonna go with you may have guessed it a zero battery motor and controller after seeing what the zero component stood for the rat rod imagine what it could do for something that weighs hundreds of pounds less so well then one of my buddy Gus's shop at Argo cycles in the blizzard to pick up my Rexy or motorcycle that I ridiculously overpaid for let's do it you'll be fine can I stop falling it - yeah get everyone dude where's this going ah in a Quan now I will say a Tesla pulling a trailer in the snow is interesting you lose half your range because it's cold and you lose the other half because you're towing and since Tesla removed your super charging access on a car you've had for 5 years now and expectedly it made the ride home that much more fun but I'm not bitter now that it's home let's take this zero apart ok so I have the zero in the air now and this one's actually pretty different from the last one I took apart number one the damage for this battery pack is a lot higher than the last one if you look back here there's actually a dent inside the case and there's actually two pretty large gouges that you could definitely see from the side this bike was a lot more trash than the last one the good thing about this bike too though it actually has the advanced charging which is good there's a lot of cracked wiring harnesses here there's a lot more work to be done on this one and I'm not really sure if this is even going to make it or not if you look at the screen I eat a new one of those I don't have the key for this one so it has to be hot-wired I got to point out of here in the accident as well but this thing got really really really really jacked off good thing it has a five year warranty so now I hope with that heavy front case damage I could see whether or not I could call zero and be like hey I need a new battery so we'll see how this goes I'm gonna keep taking this thing apart now according to my great eyeball calculations the battery should fit right at home in the Raptor frame so I'm gonna build this wooden box based on the size of the zero battery and see how it fits the problem with the zero battery is that it's so damn heavy it's much easier to play around with a light box instead of this heavy battery this is how the battery box is gonna look when it's in the quad it's a bit wide isn't it next we're going to talk about the fabrication of the steel panels for the quad and also the components that make up the conversion for the zero I realized that this bumper looks a little goofy in the first place it actually doesn't fit the dimensions in the overall look on the side reply so what we're going to do is we've actually going to cut these two tubes off are we going to use these tubes as a mounting point for the steel panel that has to go in the front because look so it's kind of bulbous and anything that's round on a bulbous remember that word and anything that's running to several parts make more sense because the quad itself everything's very angular and geometric so the size of these are curved like the current TV that I hope no one owns the most wretched disgusting things well let him do messy end up cutting these two holes off right here and that's what I'm gonna use to it fix the steel sheet to the front of why I'm getting rid of this but before I get that sheet I just want to let you guys know that this is Nicole speaker I've been using for quite some time now and they sent me their new and improved version that has some really cool features it connects the Bluetooth very quickly and that's a really cool party trick great this look at that full stereo 360 sound I had to put one here I won the other and be a by the beautiful sounds of this thing put soft is nothing like this and most importantly I listen my favorite music alright so Cole sent me the speaker but you could get yours for a limited time only you get 60% off one of these 700 untime check one of these bad boys out there great alright so we just pulled apart to zero and this is kind of where we're at from electronics these are all the things that we're going to need for the electric conversion today there's obviously a lot more components that are needed and typically they're a little bit larger to make decent power but these are the main components right here - the battery oh that's the battery in a second this right here is a controller made by subcon this is the DC to DC converter made by subcon as well this is the actual AC to DC charger made by green watt power and what this does is when you actually plug your your charger into the wall it converts it from AC to DC through them and charge the battery with values of DC now right here you'll look at this and you'll see these are the phase wires that go from this motor to the controller itself there's three of those phases and is also two wires here that connect via the positive and negative from the battery to actually activate the power of the controller itself so now this is the DC to DC converter what this does is this takes the hundred volts from the battery itself because the zero motor is a hundred volt battery it takes a hundred volts from the battery and it knocks it down to about 13 and a half volts to control the accessories in the in the quad so a lot of vehicles what they use is they'll have a DC DC converter as well as a battery this one does not use a 12 volt individual battery it just goes right through the DC to DC and this powers the accessories for the lights and the turn signals and also powering off the cluster - so right here this is the main connector that goes to the battery you'll see these four lines right here you see a positive and negative obviously the negative lead goes to the controller and the positive goes to the positive side of the controller right hey you have your built-in fuse block and even cooler you already have your obd so there's any issues with it you could actually just plug in an obd to sensor sorry obd to reader rather and you can see any error codes that are happening with the with the quad itself so i thought was a very important aspect so if you're living out in the woods something goes wrong at least you'll be able to diagnose it and troubleshoot the issue on the fly over on this side here we have the connector that goes to the gauge cluster itself this is for the key and right here you have miscellaneous wires these are for the turn signal stocks and also the leads that go to the the taillight so you have your front right front left that goes to the turn signals you have your brake light in there as well as the the headlight which is right here the last two most important ones one the throttle and this is the throttle that obviously controls how fast you're going now there's one main difference between this and this twist throttle and the other throttle that's currently on the quad itself over here the quad a lot of sport quads come with a thumb base throttle alright and we're actually gonna convert this to a twist throttle why reinvent the wheel when you could actually just you know why am I actually picking up a new solution to keep it as a throttle what I can just leave it as the twist would be a lot easier that way it makes things a little bit more interesting if you want to get off fancy and flashy and do burnouts and stuff like that it's a lot easier to do with the thumb but in terms of doing wheelies it's a lot easier to twist throttle this is my magnificent battery blocks that create as you can see I just made it and it's already falling apart this was just to get a perspective as to how big the battery is going to be and how it's going to fit inside the quiett so this is an exact replica of the size of the Z remodelers and that model is the battery weighs about 150 pounds or so which is right here that's 150 pounds this is a representation of this so I can kind of configure it and put it inside via the quad itself so we can see just how it fits in there and if you look at those pictures that I have up on the screen that's how it fits inside the box so that's how the wooden box is gonna fit inside the quad this is how the batteries in the look it's gonna be tilted at an angle this is just kind of loosely put in here but it actually fits which was awesome but because this is so damn big and it really fits we should be getting decent rains out of it one downside is that it is very heavy which isn't ideal I'm hoping that the power makes up for it this would be a very powerful setup I know you're thinking to yourselves well wait a minute most electric quads that you'll see you'll actually have you know a much smaller battery maybe one that's cut the half that's half the size of this and you'll have a motor on the inside but as you'll see there's actually no room for the motor anymore so I have to get really clever in terms of motor placement am I gonna remove the whole battery put it at the side and put the motor in here but either way something has to happen in order for it to go forward because as of right now there's not really much I can do about it now the motors gonna be interesting because this is gonna make about I would say double the power double the horsepower and double the torque of the original Raptor 7 electric motor that was in there it's going to make torque much much sooner than that gas engine is because that one has to rev up to a certain rpm you have a very specific power band with that whereas this it's making power and torque pretty much all the time from the get-go off the line all right so the other interesting part is figuring out how I'm going to have a sprocket on this instead of this belt drive this is originally belt drive it goes from the front of the motor to the rear sprocket which is a very large sprocket into zeros what I want is I want actually a tooth driven gear here instead of having a belt so popping this off and figuring out what do I want to do do I actually want to weld the teeth onto this to accommodate the chain or what kind of setup do I want here that's me the other interesting part that I have you have to figure out so it's placement and also what the hell I'm gonna do well boys and girls I hope you enjoyed this episode the next episode will be mounting of the motor into the quad where's it gonna go will there be shoddy welding next week don't forget the caching on instagram at richie be kid and as usual I will see you guys soon\n"