A PC Build Gone Wrong: A Cautionary Tale

I recently came across a listing that made me question the sanity of the seller. The price tag was a whopping $33,000 for a PC build that seemed to be more of a joke than a serious attempt at creating a high-performance machine. As I dug deeper into the listing, I realized that this was not just a simple case of overpricing, but a clear example of how not to build a PC.

The seller's approach to building a PC is reminiscent of a game of chance. They claim that the $33,000 price tag is due to the high-end components they've chosen, but in reality, it's more like they're just throwing darts at a board and hoping for the best. The specs are vague, with no information on the monitor, webcam, or headset. It's like they're asking us to take their word for it, without providing any concrete evidence of what we're getting.

The PC itself is supposed to be powered by an AMD Ryzen 9 5800X processor and a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 graphics card. However, the seller doesn't provide any information on the motherboard or storage drive. In fact, they claim that the motherboard was unavailable at the time of filming, which raises more questions than answers. How did they manage to build this PC without knowing what motherboard to use? And what about the storage drive - is it a high-end SSD or a slow hard drive?

The power supply unit (PSU) is supposed to be a Corsair 850W model, but what's interesting is that it's described as a "white model" that fits the theme. I'm not sure if this is meant to impress me or just confuse me further. The case itself is an NZXT H9 Flow, which is a decent component, but not exactly something that sets the world on fire.

One of the most puzzling aspects of this listing is the lack of specificity about the monitor front. What resolution? What refresh rate? What size? These are basic questions that should be answered when building a PC, and yet they're completely absent from this listing. It's like the seller is trying to make it up as they go along.

The peripherals themselves seem to be somewhat more transparent. The Logitech webcam is described as "decent," with a price tag of $50. This is a relatively low price for a webcam, and I'm not sure if this is meant to imply that it's a high-end model or just a basic one that's included in the deal. The headset seems to be another matter altogether, with no information on its capabilities or price.

The desk itself is an Ikea setup, which raises questions about how the seller plans to transport it. I mean, come on - this thing weighs hundreds of pounds! Is it seriously going to fit in a truck bed? How are they planning to get it from one place to another without damaging it?

In conclusion, this PC build seems like more of a joke than a serious attempt at creating a high-performance machine. The price tag is ridiculous, and the lack of specificity about the components is staggering. If you're considering buying this PC, I would strongly advise against it. It's a case of buyer beware, where the seller has thrown caution to the wind and is asking for top dollar without providing any concrete evidence of what we're getting.

The only possible explanation for this listing is that the seller is desperate to get rid of their PC components. Perhaps they've sunk too much money into the setup and are trying to recoup their losses by selling it at an inflated price. Or maybe, just maybe, they have no idea what they're doing when it comes to building a PC.

In any case, this listing serves as a cautionary tale for anyone considering buying used PC components online. Always be wary of prices that seem too good to be true, and never hesitate to ask questions about the components you're purchasing. After all, as the saying goes, "you get what you pay for," and in this case, it seems like we're getting a whole lot more than we bargained for.

The seller's attitude towards the PC build is also worth noting. They seem to be taking a rather... relaxed approach to building a high-performance machine. It's as if they're just throwing darts at a board and hoping for the best, without any regard for the consequences. This kind of attitude is not only unprofessional but also irresponsible, especially when it comes to something like PC building.

In the end, this listing serves as a reminder that even in the world of online buying and selling, there's always room for improvement. Whether you're buying or selling, it's essential to be transparent, honest, and respectful towards other buyers. Anything less is just plain unprofessional, and can lead to some pretty sticky situations.

As I wrap up this article, I want to leave you with a final thought: PC building should never be taken lightly. It's not just about slapping some components together and calling it a day; it requires patience, dedication, and a willingness to learn. If you're considering buying or selling PC components online, always remember that buyer beware is not just a phrase - it's a way of life.

So the next time you come across a listing like this, take a step back and ask yourself: what am I getting myself into? Is it worth the risk? And most importantly, would I recommend this PC build to anyone else?

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enI figured we'd have a little fun looking at three awful gaming PC ads like the good old days and awful may be a bit of an understatement for this first one simply titled gaming PC these titles always get me he's recently knocked the price down from 4500 USD to a mere 3,000 so look I mean if you're willing to knock a third of your asking price off without a sweat you were probably asking far too much to begin with which means we're not off to a great start it makes you look a little bit greedy if you ask me it's the same with cars and houses by the way if you mark your car up way too high in the beginning you turn everybody off from the prospect of buying it later once you finally do lower the price but maybe this new and improved price brings us closer to reality okay yeah probably not he's got a ryzen 7 7800x 3D in here which is great to see 64 gigs of ddr5 and a 2 tby Samsung 980 Pro okay these are all excellent choices but a 1070 TI not even the correct PCI slot it's like someone stole the good card in the rig and he panicked and replaced it with something he had collecting dust on a shelf look there's nothing wrong with a 1070 TI for the right price and in the right build but it's very clear this build is not the right one for this card they're so mismatched here I mean these are still decent 1080p Gamers of course 8 gigs of vram Fairly efficient architecture especially for the time but a $3,000 PC belongs nowhere near this graphics card let alone a $4500 one 1,000% delusional not even close you could throw the kitchen sink in and I would still say no to this you've also left off important details like what kind of power supply you're running you now that's kind of important in a $3,000 system supposedly you want to know what kind of PSU you're running maybe the cooler the case the motherboard Ram specifics apart from maybe capacity alone this is just a horribly thrown together ad like in my opinion you should start from scratch delete this outright maybe improve your photos we think we need a little more effort there add more detail to the description of course avoid drugs or alcohol maybe when formulating the asking price and uh you might be off to a better start than you were the first time okay we made it through one there are two more to go and I hope you'll stay with me if you're planning your next PC build then consider checking out our sponsor VIP SCD key their Windows 10 and 11 OEM Keys sell for a fraction of retail and will unlock the full potential of your OS it'll also remove those pesky activation watermarks click the links below to get started today and be sure to use our special offer code skgs for a sweet discount on a variety of options including Windows 10 and 11 Pro and home and more the next gaming PC out on our agenda is a $3,000 listing titled PC trade look folks again we really need to work on these titles this was listed 25 weeks ago and uh well I'm not surprised it hasn't sold let's start off first with these photos so I don't mind the coloring right I I I don't think um that there's really anything wrong with the angle so to speak but the purple is a bit much I mean it's literally in almost every shot here and it would be nice to see something maybe without such a strong Hue maybe without the system on at all so we actually see other things in the rig that's just a personal preference but something I'd like to point out it also seems to be decently built cable managed nicely apart from the fan off to the top left here that is not lit at all I wonder if he thought he'd skate by with that one hopefully just a wiring issue but not a great start for a $3,000 PC this PC comes with two monitors a keyboard and mouse with racing Sim trade for use sports bike or beater cars can send more photos if requested all right so it doesn't look like he wants money necessarily but he did include a price so we'll just roll with that I love how he kicks things off with PC specs throwing the K in there for extra luck RTX 37 TI ryzen 9 50 wait a minute ryzen 9 5600x that would make this a ryzen 5 unless it really is a ryzen 9 and you SWA the 9 for a six and 5900 who knows doubt it'll change my conclusions much course air course air okay I'll stop LL 120 fans 36 RAM sticks wow 36 whole sticks this thing's a steel okay but for real though he's got two dims in here so maybe he meant 32 gigs some inconsistencies we we'll assume 32 2 tbyte nvme gee I'm loving the lack of specificity across the board here Snow White Lane Le case I think he meant the 01 mini a razor Mouse what kind we'll never know and a Ste a steel a steel series Mouse this mouse has done some hard time in the local Penitentiary a curved 35 in Dell 1440p monitor a 34in Asus 1440p monitor again specifics what models we'll probably never know you can tell that this person either has absolutely no clue what they're trying to sell or they were in a rush maybe they're just trying to list it and as quick as possible maybe they hit Dire Straits and they just want it gone and maybe I don't know they didn't have time to type in the specifics I if you really care about selling something whether you're in dire Financial Straits or not take the extra 15 to 20 seconds to actually research what you're trying to sell it might actually you know land your money in your pocket which is the goal of this right but either way this ad is completely cooked I mean we don't even know what power supply he using so I gave him one that I thought made sense for this caliber bill but other than that I did no real favors for the guy why would I I mean if he had good stuff in his rig he would specify that right if you had a $500 power supply you'd sure go out of your way to make sure that was included in the listing and since you're not I'm not going to do you any other favors apart from that unit and this is the overarching problem that I see with listings like these they don't include specifics you're not only going to discourage folks from reaching out but you're also potentially going to lose money you're going to get lower offers because people aren't confident about what you're actually selling so even if I was genuinely interested all you're doing here is wasting both of our times I have to ask you more questions these are things that should have been already disclosed in the description up front our sum total for an equivalent new build isn't anywhere close to the $3,000 asking price of his used one not including the monitors or peripherals but I don't expect used monitors like these are fetching premiums nowadays and I highly doubt he's got a Razer keyboard made out of solid gold He also mentioned Sim racing gear in his description we all saw this earlier right we're not going crazy but I don't see any of it in any of his photos and he doesn't specify anything else in the description about it so for all I know none of it exists there is one photo however that caught my eye a bit earlier in this examination this one right here and you notice anything interesting about it I'm I'm pretty sure that this here is an 8 and not a seven which would actually mean that this card is an RTX 3080 TI and not a 3070 TI that brings our rigs total up to about $1,800 brand new if we were to build it today but this is still in my opinion far off the mark of where this system needs to be priced in order for it to not be you know laughed at I wouldn't put any worthwhile value on the monitors by the way without knowing the exact specs these could be 60 HZ models for all we know and and yeah that's really about all we can do with this one there's so much here that needs serious help honestly I would just start all over again last up on our list is a quote white gaming setup he's not lying which was originally listed Ed for $5,000 and we're down to $4,500 now but it has been a little over a month since this was listed hello my name is Austin I'm looking to sell my still very new gaming setup for a few reason the biggest being I want to buy a motorcycle I have the set price at $4500 but might be able to negotiate okay so are you willing to negotiate or aren't you I don't really understand why people bother saying things this way this this is not really a itic in my book because if you thought it out long enough to actually type that you may negotiate you 100% will negotiate I mean just just cut to the point say OBO or something like I have way more respect for folks that say OBO because that tells me that you understand that the price is somewhat flexible this is a used Marketplace that's the joy frankly of buying I love buying used because the price is always kind of malleable you know we both got to come away feeling like we either got our butts kicked or like we both got steals if both parties feel that way it was a good transaction everything included is custombuilt PC i' I'd hope so all three monitors and stands mouse and keyboard two LogiTech C920 cameras a Logitech Astro a5x headset and an Ikea desk so basically everything you can see in this photo right here and it's a good photo I don't have any problems with it I I prefer maybe landscape mode for a shot like this but it gets the job done what doesn't get the job done though are these specifications this is pretty bad oryzon 7 7800 X3 3D okay not off to a bad start an NZXT Kraken Elite 360 I mean this is like a several hundred AIO I like it an ASRock b650 M Pro ew so B series chipset firstly for a 700 x 3D and only an m8x motherboard in an ATX case and a $4,500 listing not not good 62 gabes of ddr5 62 not even sure that's mathematically possible ddr5 dims so we'll just assume he meant 6 4 a 2 tby SSD okay okay and a white gigabyte RTX 40 60 yeah big let down there at the end a 60 series card in a listing you want $4,500 for I know that includes the desk and the monitors we'll get to that in a second but even if we remove say 1,500 bucks for the lot of the stuff that's not in the PC itself the price is still egregious and I'll prove it to you it's it's beyond delusional the two remaining PC components are a Corsair 8 50 wat power supply it looks like a white model so that that's nice it fits the theme at least and an NZXT H9 flow case again fine components but the playing field hasn't changed for me for starters I think offering $1,500 for all of this stuff that's not like the PC itself is being way more than generous I've built a larger version of this Ikea desk before I mean look it's fine for the money but it's not like a $1,000 setup like it's solid but it's Chief right it's Ikea stuff and uh I'm not even sure if folks are going to want to pack up a desk like tear it all down load it up into like a truck bed and drive it 100 plus miles like I don't I don't know that's it's a lot to deal with transport wise I imagine most would rather just buy a new desk themselves or heck maybe go to Ikea and get the exact same desk and build it and not have scratches and things on it because it'll be new the Logitech webcams are pretty cheap I'm going to put maybe 50 bucks on these piece uh the headset is decent but it's nothing special and we're lacking specifics on the monitor front again of course I I don't know what it is with listings like these and the lack of specificity specifically with monitors like what resolution what refresh rates what sizes like come on help me out here I would say a couple hundred bucks each is being more than generous given this limited info so that' be 600 bucks maybe $200 for the used peripherals and another $200 to $300 for the Ikea desk which is uh that's like retail I wouldn't pay that for a used one but still honestly looking back my $1,500 ballpark for all this stuff that's not the PC is a it's a pretty big benefit of the doubt but if we stick to that and then we deduct this from the overall asking price that leaves us with $33,000 to play with for the PC itself and I can tell you right off the bat that a 460 and a $3,000 PC regardless of what else is in it I mean unless your case is made out of again something like solid gold it's going to be a horrible deal and you can see just how far off the Mark we are in our PC part picker breakdown a nearly $1,000 difference and these are new components we've spec I'll be it with a couple of modifications his motherboard was unavailable at time of filming so I gave him a slightly better one I'm not entirely sure what storage Drive he's using he again didn't specify uh so I gave him one that I thought was a decent value but for all intents and purposes he's massively missed the Mark here aside from the fact that the build is extremely lopsided in its CPU and GPU capabilities this is just a horrible deal one that you should stay far far away from I may need my blood pressure checked look I obviously don't know the headp space of these sellers for all I know some of them could be going through pretty tough stuff uh they may not know much about the rigs that they're selling or maybe they do and they're just desperate right who knows they sunk too much money into setups they couldn't afford and are trying to recover every dollar they can there's nothing really wrong with that of course sellers want to maximize profit they want to maximize a return right that that's that's the whole point of selling used and that's why a lot of times we haggle as buyers because we know that they're after as much money as possible but at the same time they want to get rid of said product or products because why else would it be listed on a site like Facebook Marketplace it's when we find that Common Ground we find that price that both parties agree on that's the sport of negotiation I enjoy that again but these folks can ask whatever they want for their for their products they can put whatever number they feel makees sense for them in front of their listings but those goods may never sell cause and effect they have the freedom to ask whatever they want and in much the same way I have the freedom to call out and question said prices whenever I want pretty cool how that works thank you so much for watching if you enjoyed this one at least consider subscribing that would be a huge help leave a comment down below if you haven't already and uh maybe stick around for the next one I think you'll enjoy it my name is Greg thanks for learning with meI figured we'd have a little fun looking at three awful gaming PC ads like the good old days and awful may be a bit of an understatement for this first one simply titled gaming PC these titles always get me he's recently knocked the price down from 4500 USD to a mere 3,000 so look I mean if you're willing to knock a third of your asking price off without a sweat you were probably asking far too much to begin with which means we're not off to a great start it makes you look a little bit greedy if you ask me it's the same with cars and houses by the way if you mark your car up way too high in the beginning you turn everybody off from the prospect of buying it later once you finally do lower the price but maybe this new and improved price brings us closer to reality okay yeah probably not he's got a ryzen 7 7800x 3D in here which is great to see 64 gigs of ddr5 and a 2 tby Samsung 980 Pro okay these are all excellent choices but a 1070 TI not even the correct PCI slot it's like someone stole the good card in the rig and he panicked and replaced it with something he had collecting dust on a shelf look there's nothing wrong with a 1070 TI for the right price and in the right build but it's very clear this build is not the right one for this card they're so mismatched here I mean these are still decent 1080p Gamers of course 8 gigs of vram Fairly efficient architecture especially for the time but a $3,000 PC belongs nowhere near this graphics card let alone a $4500 one 1,000% delusional not even close you could throw the kitchen sink in and I would still say no to this you've also left off important details like what kind of power supply you're running you now that's kind of important in a $3,000 system supposedly you want to know what kind of PSU you're running maybe the cooler the case the motherboard Ram specifics apart from maybe capacity alone this is just a horribly thrown together ad like in my opinion you should start from scratch delete this outright maybe improve your photos we think we need a little more effort there add more detail to the description of course avoid drugs or alcohol maybe when formulating the asking price and uh you might be off to a better start than you were the first time okay we made it through one there are two more to go and I hope you'll stay with me if you're planning your next PC build then consider checking out our sponsor VIP SCD key their Windows 10 and 11 OEM Keys sell for a fraction of retail and will unlock the full potential of your OS it'll also remove those pesky activation watermarks click the links below to get started today and be sure to use our special offer code skgs for a sweet discount on a variety of options including Windows 10 and 11 Pro and home and more the next gaming PC out on our agenda is a $3,000 listing titled PC trade look folks again we really need to work on these titles this was listed 25 weeks ago and uh well I'm not surprised it hasn't sold let's start off first with these photos so I don't mind the coloring right I I I don't think um that there's really anything wrong with the angle so to speak but the purple is a bit much I mean it's literally in almost every shot here and it would be nice to see something maybe without such a strong Hue maybe without the system on at all so we actually see other things in the rig that's just a personal preference but something I'd like to point out it also seems to be decently built cable managed nicely apart from the fan off to the top left here that is not lit at all I wonder if he thought he'd skate by with that one hopefully just a wiring issue but not a great start for a $3,000 PC this PC comes with two monitors a keyboard and mouse with racing Sim trade for use sports bike or beater cars can send more photos if requested all right so it doesn't look like he wants money necessarily but he did include a price so we'll just roll with that I love how he kicks things off with PC specs throwing the K in there for extra luck RTX 37 TI ryzen 9 50 wait a minute ryzen 9 5600x that would make this a ryzen 5 unless it really is a ryzen 9 and you SWA the 9 for a six and 5900 who knows doubt it'll change my conclusions much course air course air okay I'll stop LL 120 fans 36 RAM sticks wow 36 whole sticks this thing's a steel okay but for real though he's got two dims in here so maybe he meant 32 gigs some inconsistencies we we'll assume 32 2 tbyte nvme gee I'm loving the lack of specificity across the board here Snow White Lane Le case I think he meant the 01 mini a razor Mouse what kind we'll never know and a Ste a steel a steel series Mouse this mouse has done some hard time in the local Penitentiary a curved 35 in Dell 1440p monitor a 34in Asus 1440p monitor again specifics what models we'll probably never know you can tell that this person either has absolutely no clue what they're trying to sell or they were in a rush maybe they're just trying to list it and as quick as possible maybe they hit Dire Straits and they just want it gone and maybe I don't know they didn't have time to type in the specifics I if you really care about selling something whether you're in dire Financial Straits or not take the extra 15 to 20 seconds to actually research what you're trying to sell it might actually you know land your money in your pocket which is the goal of this right but either way this ad is completely cooked I mean we don't even know what power supply he using so I gave him one that I thought made sense for this caliber bill but other than that I did no real favors for the guy why would I I mean if he had good stuff in his rig he would specify that right if you had a $500 power supply you'd sure go out of your way to make sure that was included in the listing and since you're not I'm not going to do you any other favors apart from that unit and this is the overarching problem that I see with listings like these they don't include specifics you're not only going to discourage folks from reaching out but you're also potentially going to lose money you're going to get lower offers because people aren't confident about what you're actually selling so even if I was genuinely interested all you're doing here is wasting both of our times I have to ask you more questions these are things that should have been already disclosed in the description up front our sum total for an equivalent new build isn't anywhere close to the $3,000 asking price of his used one not including the monitors or peripherals but I don't expect used monitors like these are fetching premiums nowadays and I highly doubt he's got a Razer keyboard made out of solid gold He also mentioned Sim racing gear in his description we all saw this earlier right we're not going crazy but I don't see any of it in any of his photos and he doesn't specify anything else in the description about it so for all I know none of it exists there is one photo however that caught my eye a bit earlier in this examination this one right here and you notice anything interesting about it I'm I'm pretty sure that this here is an 8 and not a seven which would actually mean that this card is an RTX 3080 TI and not a 3070 TI that brings our rigs total up to about $1,800 brand new if we were to build it today but this is still in my opinion far off the mark of where this system needs to be priced in order for it to not be you know laughed at I wouldn't put any worthwhile value on the monitors by the way without knowing the exact specs these could be 60 HZ models for all we know and and yeah that's really about all we can do with this one there's so much here that needs serious help honestly I would just start all over again last up on our list is a quote white gaming setup he's not lying which was originally listed Ed for $5,000 and we're down to $4,500 now but it has been a little over a month since this was listed hello my name is Austin I'm looking to sell my still very new gaming setup for a few reason the biggest being I want to buy a motorcycle I have the set price at $4500 but might be able to negotiate okay so are you willing to negotiate or aren't you I don't really understand why people bother saying things this way this this is not really a itic in my book because if you thought it out long enough to actually type that you may negotiate you 100% will negotiate I mean just just cut to the point say OBO or something like I have way more respect for folks that say OBO because that tells me that you understand that the price is somewhat flexible this is a used Marketplace that's the joy frankly of buying I love buying used because the price is always kind of malleable you know we both got to come away feeling like we either got our butts kicked or like we both got steals if both parties feel that way it was a good transaction everything included is custombuilt PC i' I'd hope so all three monitors and stands mouse and keyboard two LogiTech C920 cameras a Logitech Astro a5x headset and an Ikea desk so basically everything you can see in this photo right here and it's a good photo I don't have any problems with it I I prefer maybe landscape mode for a shot like this but it gets the job done what doesn't get the job done though are these specifications this is pretty bad oryzon 7 7800 X3 3D okay not off to a bad start an NZXT Kraken Elite 360 I mean this is like a several hundred AIO I like it an ASRock b650 M Pro ew so B series chipset firstly for a 700 x 3D and only an m8x motherboard in an ATX case and a $4,500 listing not not good 62 gabes of ddr5 62 not even sure that's mathematically possible ddr5 dims so we'll just assume he meant 6 4 a 2 tby SSD okay okay and a white gigabyte RTX 40 60 yeah big let down there at the end a 60 series card in a listing you want $4,500 for I know that includes the desk and the monitors we'll get to that in a second but even if we remove say 1,500 bucks for the lot of the stuff that's not in the PC itself the price is still egregious and I'll prove it to you it's it's beyond delusional the two remaining PC components are a Corsair 8 50 wat power supply it looks like a white model so that that's nice it fits the theme at least and an NZXT H9 flow case again fine components but the playing field hasn't changed for me for starters I think offering $1,500 for all of this stuff that's not like the PC itself is being way more than generous I've built a larger version of this Ikea desk before I mean look it's fine for the money but it's not like a $1,000 setup like it's solid but it's Chief right it's Ikea stuff and uh I'm not even sure if folks are going to want to pack up a desk like tear it all down load it up into like a truck bed and drive it 100 plus miles like I don't I don't know that's it's a lot to deal with transport wise I imagine most would rather just buy a new desk themselves or heck maybe go to Ikea and get the exact same desk and build it and not have scratches and things on it because it'll be new the Logitech webcams are pretty cheap I'm going to put maybe 50 bucks on these piece uh the headset is decent but it's nothing special and we're lacking specifics on the monitor front again of course I I don't know what it is with listings like these and the lack of specificity specifically with monitors like what resolution what refresh rates what sizes like come on help me out here I would say a couple hundred bucks each is being more than generous given this limited info so that' be 600 bucks maybe $200 for the used peripherals and another $200 to $300 for the Ikea desk which is uh that's like retail I wouldn't pay that for a used one but still honestly looking back my $1,500 ballpark for all this stuff that's not the PC is a it's a pretty big benefit of the doubt but if we stick to that and then we deduct this from the overall asking price that leaves us with $33,000 to play with for the PC itself and I can tell you right off the bat that a 460 and a $3,000 PC regardless of what else is in it I mean unless your case is made out of again something like solid gold it's going to be a horrible deal and you can see just how far off the Mark we are in our PC part picker breakdown a nearly $1,000 difference and these are new components we've spec I'll be it with a couple of modifications his motherboard was unavailable at time of filming so I gave him a slightly better one I'm not entirely sure what storage Drive he's using he again didn't specify uh so I gave him one that I thought was a decent value but for all intents and purposes he's massively missed the Mark here aside from the fact that the build is extremely lopsided in its CPU and GPU capabilities this is just a horrible deal one that you should stay far far away from I may need my blood pressure checked look I obviously don't know the headp space of these sellers for all I know some of them could be going through pretty tough stuff uh they may not know much about the rigs that they're selling or maybe they do and they're just desperate right who knows they sunk too much money into setups they couldn't afford and are trying to recover every dollar they can there's nothing really wrong with that of course sellers want to maximize profit they want to maximize a return right that that's that's the whole point of selling used and that's why a lot of times we haggle as buyers because we know that they're after as much money as possible but at the same time they want to get rid of said product or products because why else would it be listed on a site like Facebook Marketplace it's when we find that Common Ground we find that price that both parties agree on that's the sport of negotiation I enjoy that again but these folks can ask whatever they want for their for their products they can put whatever number they feel makees sense for them in front of their listings but those goods may never sell cause and effect they have the freedom to ask whatever they want and in much the same way I have the freedom to call out and question said prices whenever I want pretty cool how that works thank you so much for watching if you enjoyed this one at least consider subscribing that would be a huge help leave a comment down below if you haven't already and uh maybe stick around for the next one I think you'll enjoy it my name is Greg thanks for learning with me\n"