Interview with Justine and Armando about i9 Throttling and MacBook Cooling Pads

Hey, guys, how's it going? It's Justine, and today I'm joined with Armando. How are you? - I'm doing great. How about yourself? - I'm doing awesome. And I'm so glad that you're here. I've been doing a bunch of videos talking about the new MacBook, and I also mentioned that I needed a friend who knew Premiere. Guess what? He's here.

- I'm here. Thank you for inviting me, by the way. - Yeah, thanks for coming. This is so exciting. You know there's been a lot of drama going on about the i9 throttling, but Apple did come out with an update and patch. So it was a software thing, not a hardware issue. Which was exciting us for all of us who bought the i9 MacBooks.

- I still have to buy mine. Well, that's okay, 'cause guess what? We've got one right here. - You got one? That is beautiful. Oh my goodness. And, yes, it looks absolutely incredible. That's nice. What did you bring today for us to test out?

I brought cooling pads. I figured, okay, so, I went on Amazon, I started doing research. And I found out that a lot of people like these things. In fact, if you go on Amazon right now, thousands of people are giving these five stars. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't believe this is going to help in any way.

- You don't think so? - I don't think so. What do you think? They're fans blowing air into your computer and it's being elevated. So I think it has to help a little bit. - I don't know. We're gonna debunk that myth. And that's why I'm here.

And we're gonna be testing this out in Premiere, because that is the most taxing on a system. I do want to try Final Cut Export to see if any of these would help out the export that I have been testing previously. So I don't know. We'll see. Which ever one does the best in Premiere, we'll test it in Final Cut.

So let's do that. Let's go ahead and do a baseline run first to see what it does. By the way, we are in a controlled environment. Very nice temperature you have here in your studio. Normally, I turn the air conditioning off, but we're gonna keep it on. I think it's like 72. That's nice.

A nice 72. Let's do it. Okay, cool. Ready? One, two, three. YouTube, 2160P, 4K. We are going to start in three, two, one, go. Okay, so it's estimating. See how it fluctuates?

So what is this project? Like what is it shot on? What's all the details? So this project is A7, excuse me, A73 footage. I shot this in SLOG3. It has a simple grade, and it's a five, I wanna say five minutes. I guess we'll look right now. I think it's like a five-minute clip.

So in between each of our little tests here, we're gonna have either a story or some Apple facts. But you can tell us a story first. - I'll you a story a friend told me. So I had a friend who was relatively close with Apple, Steve Jobs, and all that. He tells me all these stories.

So when Apple and Google were still friends, the Google logo was off by a little bit, and Steve Jobs was so mad that he like basically called or emailed them and said, "What's going on here?"

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: en- Hey, guys, how's it going?It's Justine.And today I'm joined with Armando.How are you?- I'm doing great.How about yourself?- I'm doing awesome.And I'm so glad that you're here.I've been doing a bunchof videos talking aboutthe new MacBook.And I also mentionedthat I needed a friendthat knew Premiere.And guess what?He's here.- I'm here.Thank you for inviting me, by the way.- Yeah, thanks for coming.This is so exciting.You know there's beena lot of drama going onabout the i9 throttling,but Apple did come outwith an update and patch.So it was a software thing,not a hardware issue.Which was exciting usfor all of us who boughtthe i9 MacBooks.- I still have to buy mine.- Well, that's okay,'cause guess what?We've got one right here.- You got one?That is beautiful.- Oh my goodness.And, yes, it looks absolutely incredible.- That's nice.- What did you bringtoday for us to test out?- I brought cooling pads.I figured,okay, so, I went on Amazon,I started doing research.And I found out that a lotof people like these things.In fact, if you go on Amazon right now,thousands of people aregiving these five stars.I'm gonna be honest with you.I don't believe this isgoing to help in any way.- You don't think so?- I don't think so.What do you think?- Why not?They're fans blowingair into your computerand it's being elevated.So I think it has to help a little bit.- I don't know.We're gonna debunk that myth.And that's why I'm here.- And we're gonna be testingthis out in Premiere,because that is themost taxing on a system.I do want to try Final Cut Export to seeif any of these would help out the exportthat I have been testing previously.So I don't know.We'll see.Which ever one does the best in Premiere,we'll test it in Final Cut.- So let's do that.Let's go ahead and do a baseline run firstto see what it does.By the way, we are in acontrolled environment.Very nice temperature youhave here in your studio.- Normally, I turn theair conditioning off,but we're gonna keep it on.I think it's like 72.- That's nice.- A nice 72.- Let's do it.- Okay, cool.Ready?One, two, three.- YouTube, 2160P, 4K.We are going to startin three, two, one, go.Okay, so it's estimating.See how it fluctuates?- So what this project?Like what is it shot on?What's all the details?- So this project is A7,excuse me, A73 footage.I shot this in SLOG3.It has a simple grade.And it's a five, I wanna say five minutes.I guess we'll look right now.I think it's like a five minute clip.- So in between each ofour little tests here,we're gonna have either astory or some Apple facts.But you can tell us a story first.- I'll you a story a friend told me.So I had a friend who was relatively closewith Apple, Steve Jobs, and all that.He tells me all these stories.So when Apple and Googlewere still friends,the Google logo was off by a little bit,and Steve Jobs was so madthat he like basically calledor emailed them and said,\"You need to fix the Google logo\"so that the pixels are perfect.\"That's how meticulous Steve Jobs was,that he wanted everythingto look good on the iPhone.- Oh, man.Okay, so I just found my FLIR ONE,and this connects to yourphone so you can see how hotyour computer's running.- We have to do it for the other ones.That's gonna be great.- We do.This is gonna be great.- Especially 'cause of the cooling pad,we'll see where it's performing,and that's gonna be good.There is 60 seconds remaining.We're almost at 10 minutes.That's a long time.- That's a long time.- For a five minute export.- So, here's a questionthat I have for you.Why aren't you using Final Cut?- I shoot in RAW,and Final Cut Pro does not support,excuse me, let me rephrase that,'cause there's gonna bepeople in the comments.- My friends.- Does not support Canon RAW Light,the values to edit the RAW file.You can playback.Oh, it's done.Stop, stop.I would say 10:34.So 10:34 for the baseline.Let's go ahead and write that down.Oh, that is sweet.- So this is our first test.The baseline test.- So while we unbox this,it gives the laptop a little bit of timeto kind of cool itself.'Cause right now, we just checked,and it's pretty hot.- It is.- This is the first one I grabbed- Ooh, I'm so excited.- I'll let you do the honors.- All right, let's put you offthe side, my little friend.Do we need a knife?- Sure.- Do you want a knife?- Uh, no.- So this is a nice kitchen knife.This is actually one ofmy favorite ones though.This is definitely my favorite.- I will not mes with you.- You can use these for throwing.- Yeah, go ahead.- This is our first one.- Who makes this?- Frustration-free.- Yeah, I don't know about that.- I'm not really sure.- I don't even know who makes this.Frustration-free.- I feel slightly frustrated.- TeckNet.That looks interesting.- It looks industrial.- So this looks like itjust has two giant fans.On and off switch.USB.- Oh, very nice.- I never read instructions.- I don't either.This is pretty, I think, self-explanatory.- The question is--- I don't want to hear the question,'cause I know.Where do we put it?Let me get a dongle.- Did you bring the dongle?We're good?- I think so.- Let's turn it on.RGB.- Wow, look at these lights.- I don't know.See?This is what I'm talking about.There's no way.- I mean, it's not gonna make it worse.- Very true.- Or will it make it worse?'Cause it's now sucking a bit of the powerfrom your computer to power it.- You know what?That's a good theory.Are we ready to do this?- I think we are.So this our second test usingthe TeckNet cooling pad,whatever this thing is.- On three.Two, one, go.Exporting.How much faster do youthink it's going to render?- I don't really have a lotof experience with Premiere,so I feel like I don't really know at all.I mean, I would saymaybe it is like seconds.I can't imagine it'll be minutes,because that would be crazy.- Do you have any Apple facts?- This isn't a fact,but there is one of thebiggest private collectionsof Apple gear, products,everything in Prague.It's called the Apple Museum,and it is the most fantastic placethat I ever accidentally came across.Well, I was in Prague,and I was like,\"I'm gonna find out ifthere's an Apple Store here.\"Google'd Apple Store,Apple Museum showed up,and it is beautiful.It even has like Steve Jobs' shirtsand his shoes.Like it definitely goes that route.But it was really cool.So if you guys are in Prague,definitely check it out.- I wanna go now.- I actually wanna go back,because I only had a little bit of time,and I wanna spend more time there.- That's really neat.I'll hit the stop here really quick.24, 23.It's gonna be really close.No way.- What?- 10:30.- Wait, I don't know why I'm upset,because I definitely said it'sgoing to make a difference.- Four seconds.We can't say it didn't work.- Basically, like four second difference.- Understand that Premiere Pro,it just taxes the CPU.This test in Final Cut couldrender different results.I have another here for you.- Let's sit this one off to the side.That was TeckNet, sothis one's the (gasps),guys, okay, so when youshowed me some of thesethat you were ordering,this is crazy, because Idon't know if you remember,but a long, long time ago Iused to have a bamboo desk,and I had this.You know what?I never plugged it in.I just used it something that looked nice.Yeah, it's cool.- Tell me all about it.You probably know more than I do.- We just plug it in.- We're gonna wait a coupleminutes for it to cool.And then we'll run the test again.This is much louder.- This is much louder.- I'm sure you can hear that.- It's so loud.- On three, okay?Three, two, one.Go!Now, this is not an Apple fact,but what is the mostunique item from Applethat you own.- It's still in a box right now,and I haven't opened it yet.- Really?- It is a 1984 original,it's the 128K 1984 Mac.I've been waiting to do the video.It's still in the box.I just keep thinking about it,just waiting for the moment.So soon it'll happen.What about you?- I have a mousepad, old school.- Like one of the old school,like the Apple logo one?- Yes.- That's so cool.- We are at the oneminute, thirty second mark.- So this is our bamboo.- This looks hotter.- I think because that airis being blown up like that.So these are the fans right here,and you can see theheat is now blowing up.- No way.- Is it better?- 10:24.I'm just puzzled how this is much smaller,like the fans,but here's the thing, it's much louder.- It is much louder,so the fans may be runninga little bit faster,and also this is wood,so I don't know if thewood is maybe drawingsome of the heat out of it.- Well, another thing, lift it up.I'll show them this little pattern design.So, like you said, you're right,you're absolutely right,it's dissipating,or it's sucking all thatheat into that wood.Now, here's a gaming one.How would you pronounce that?Nobebird?Nobebird?That is crazy looking.- Nobebird?Nobebird?- I don't know.- Oh, this looks like itwould be made for a 17-inch.- Plastic.Whoa, look at the braided cable.It kind of has this nice,almost like a beveled--- Yeah, and it'sgot this nice like mesh.- It almost looks like somethingRepublic of Gamers would make.- It does.- ROG.Like an ROG.- Oh my gosh, I had one of those massive,it was like a 17-inch one,that thing was so incredibly loud,but it was so powerful.- Look at this.What about this?Oh, fan controls.- We gotta turn it up to the max.So this definitely canhold a 17-inch computer,because this is huge.- This feels a lot cooler.I am going to say this one isprobably gonna do pretty good.I'm hoping now.- I think so.And because it also isextending over the sides too.- You're right.- And this isgonna be interesting.- Three, two, one, go!I didn't think any ofthese were going to work.- I just keep saying,like, it definitely makes sense,because it is slightly elevated.- True.Check the thermals.What are you looking at?- We've got like, 120, 121.I mean, it's basically about the same.- Stop.244.- No!- So it was the same.This was one of those thatit looks like it's going to do great.- This is metal.So that's actually heating up.Hmm.This one is so far the worst,which I actually thoughtthis would be best.- Yeah, me too.I thought for sure thisis gonna be better.- Look at this, guys.This is super fancy.So this looks very similar.It's another six-fan, also metal.- Smaller fans.The bamboo had the smallest fan,which are almost as equal as this.- This is the first one that has somethingthat will make sure yourlaptop doesn't fall off,and you just lift this up like this.- It feels very flimsy,like it's going to break.- Does feel like it's gonna break.This is an aggressive stand.The fans seem very low.Like I don't really hear them very much.- No, it's quiet.Three, two, one, go!- And now we wait.So we're having the same sort of effectwith the heat pattern kind of flowing upon the corners there.- Time.10:41.- 10:41.- So not the worst.- Shoot.- Yeah, bummer.- So I got a few fans.- It reminds me of likethose trucker fans, you know?The ones that they use.How many stars did--- I didn't look.What if this ends up being the best?- No fan control.I think you're just gonna get--- You're asking for a lot.- Look at that?- What does it say?Take it easy.- Take it easy.- You can program it,but I'm not sure how.I didn't read the directions.- Just take it easy, guys.- Are you ready?- I am ready.Okay, on three.Two, one, go!All right, let's wait and see.What do you guys think?Better or worse?- You'll find out very shortly.Wait, we haven't been doing Apple facts?- Time for Apple facts.Or story.- So this is actually a really fun storythat will be in a upcoming video.So this actually happened back in May.I went to,it was the MoMA in San Francisco.I was looking at one of these sketches.It was of the original mouse,like the design that then became a mouse.And I was like, \"Wow, this is so cool.\"And I met this guy there,and he went to themuseum to see his sketch.It was the guy thatmade the sketch in 1983.- So you happen to bethere at the right time.- I'm actually getting goosebumpsjust thinking about it,because it was justthe craziest time ever.And he was telling me allthese really cool storiesabout Apple and Steve Jobsthat I'm not gonna share,but it was such an incredible moment.- That is awesome.- I was like, \"Are you sure?\"He got out his ID and showed me,because I didn't believe him.Like would you believe him?No, I wouldn't.- No, of course not.No way, no way.- Incredible.In most of the other tests,you guys might remember that the heatwas flowing upward,where now--- It's kind of concentratedmore down, right?- Yeah.- I'm gonna say 10:36.It was just ramping really quick.We got one more to go guys.- My science experiment has failed.- Look what we have here.- Oh boy.This one looks really aggressive.And it's designed in,uh, it was still made in China.Well, either way, it looks very scary.Oh, yeah, I probablyshouldn't hold it towards us.- Whoa.- The New Bee.The New Bee, like newbie.- Do you thinkit's even gonna rank?- See, I just thinkthe reason the bamboo onedid so well is because it wasn't basicallyacting like a skillet.Like this metal is heating up,and it's completely defeating the purpose.- Ooh, this fits nice.I think this is one ofthe nicer fitting ones.- Look how good it goes with the skin.Whenever they launched thisblack camo, the dbrand,I was freaking out,because I feel like every tech reviewerhad it on their phone or their laptopsknows like this is so great.So now I have one on mine too,and I'm so excited,so huge thank you to dbrandfor sponsoring this video.Link in the description,if you guys wanna check it out.I have been such a fanof theirs for so long.- They make good stuff.- I know.So thank you guys.I love it.- You even have a dbranddesktop right now.- We were talking about that.How cool would it be to get this all,I mean, they have somany different colors.I could just send them the dimensions.- You should.dbrand, please.- Oh my gosh, I want a marble top.- Ooh, that would look good.- The marble one that they have.I saw everybody has those as well.- Or concrete.- Oh my gosh, I have so many ideas.I forgot what we're even doing.- Okay, let's do this.It's still loud,but it's not obnoxious.- It seems comparable tothe previous on that we did.- I still think theworst one was the bamboo.- And that so far is our winner,so it makes sense.- Three, two, one, go.I'm excited.This is our last one.- Do you have an Apple fact?- I do.I have really good Apple fact, actually.So, I'm not sure if this is true or not,but I heard this story.My law here in California,you don't have to put in alicense plate on your carfor six months,meaning for six months you're okay.If you get pulled over, it's fine.They give you that grace period.So Steve Jobs had anagreement with the dealership,every six months he would renew his lease,so he never had to puta front license plate.Actually not front, justlicense plate, period.- That is so good though,even like to think of that.- But it shows like Steve'scharacter as a rebel.\"I'm not gonna abide by your rules.\"- But he still was abiding by the rules,because he was releasingever six months legally.So technically, he wasabiding by the rules,but just finding the loophole.- Exactly, that was it.Did you know that?- I did not actually.But I have Google'd his car before,because I once saw somebodythat did have a license platethat said like STVJOBS,and I was like, \"Is that Steve Jobs?\"And it wasn't.So this is our last test.This is the Killer Bee,Bee Instinct, whatever.I'm not sure.- The New Bee.- You're about 98.- So I'm not sick?- No, you look good.- Seems like thesegaming ones are just more hypethan anything.- It's the metal.You're cooking your laptop.- 10:42, oh gosh.This is the worst one.- Killer Bee has killed--- Oh, wait, stop.10:57.It just randomly stopped.Like, we're done.So now Final Cut Pro.- Yes!So we're gonna do Final Cut on the bamboo.- We're gonnaget a baseline first,and then what we'll do,is after we have our number,'cause this is with the update.We have to clarify, update.- With the update.Time to try the export.So we're gonna try this now.What are we even doing?The whole day's gone by,and we're like, \"What are we doing here?\"What is the meaning of computer life.- Oh, it's done.I didn't see when it finished--- It's okay, it doesn't even matter,'cause we don't really need it.- I'm gonna say it was like 13:15.- Without bamboo.So that is probably thefastest that has exported.Previously it was 13:03.Bamboo.- Dongle.- Dongle.Here we go.We are off the races once again.I don't even know what we're hoping for.Are we hoping that it wins?I'm not even sure.- Exactly, I don't even know.Do we want it to win?Do we want it to succeed?What do you think?- I don't know.I mean, I wanna believe.- Will this change computing forever?No.- No, it won't.- It's just fun guys.We're just trying to seeif this is even gonna make a difference.Almost done.It's 9:50.I don't see it change.Oh, wow.- Here it is.- That is old school.- I think it was like 2007.It even has like the littlebutton you have to pushto unlock it.- I remember that.- The battery is dead,but I did get a charger for it.And all of my old YouTubevideos are on here.Like, I used to makevideos with this iSight.Like, that's what I filmedmy first few videos on.- Let's getthe knife out of the way.What's the time?- 13:17.So, now it's worse.- So it was two seconds--- Slower.- So, check this out.Justine and I actuallyran a couple of testsbehind the scenes,and it will always fluctuate a little bit.- Conclusion time.I think the conclusionthat I've at least come to,is it doesn't really makethat much of a difference.So if this is somethingthat you're gonna get,it's more sort of an aesthetic thing.If it is something you'reputting on your lap,maybe it'll potentially make a difference.But all in all, the results that I sawis not enough to make me goout and buy one of these.- No.And I think also, another thing is,how well Final Cut Pro is optimized,so that it doesn't matterthe variation of temperature,it's just gonna runoptimal no matter what.That's probably why you sawa little bit better gainsin Premiere,just because it was a lot coolerthan it was with Final Cut.So I think that's anotherthing that you could,I guess, take away from this video.- And I think we've already--- And I'm not switching.- I was gonna say, I thinkwe've already established thatPremiere is definitely notentirely optimized for Mac.So that is something that I've heardthat Adobe is working on.So hopefully--- Adobe.- Please, come on, guys.- Get with the program.- They need you.- Yes, please.- But I'll be over here inFinal Cut, just chilling,'cause it's like cooler.- I got it.- Oh, I'm not very funny.Anyways, thank you guys for watching.We had so much fun doing this test.And thank you--- Thank you for having me.- For joining me on my channel.Make sure you guys gocheck out his channel.I actually, I rememberfinding your videos years ago,looking for how to color grade,'cause I'm not very good at it.And then I was like,man, I wish you had some FinalCut LUTs that I can download.Well, I guess, it'll still grow both ways,I guess.- I do have some LUTs coming soon.- Really?- I want you to test them out.- LUTs get crazy.- Yes, there we go.- Thank you again.Make sure you go check out his channel.He has tons of really great tech videos.Lots of color grading stuff.And if you guys are Premiere fans,then you should probably go over there.Check it out.- Come on, guys.- Check it out.Thank you so much.Make sure you subscribe.I will see you later.- Thank you.High five.- Bye.Success.\n"