The Power of Memes: A Conversation about Sexism and Advertising
We gathered to talk about something that's been on everyone's mind lately - memes, particularly those related to sexism and advertising. It started with someone sharing their favorite meme, the "distracted boyfriend," which is a popular image used to depict a man looking at another woman while his girlfriend or wife looks on in shock or disgust. The conversation quickly turned into a discussion about the power of memes and how they can be used to convey complex messages.
One person shared that they think the meme is funny, but also thought-provoking. They mentioned that it's not just the image itself, but the context and the intent behind it. For example, some people have taken this meme and created female versions, using a reverse version of the original stock photo. This shows that the idea of sexism can be humorous, but also highlights the importance of representation and inclusivity.
The group discussed how memes like the "distracted boyfriend" can be used in advertising to grab attention and convey a message. However, some people felt that this kind of humor is not suitable for all audiences, particularly when it comes to advertising. One person mentioned that they've seen advertisements using this meme, and while it was funny, it also made them uncomfortable.
The conversation turned into a debate about sexism in advertising. Some people argued that the "distracted boyfriend" meme is sexist because it objectifies women and reduces them to being eye candy. Others disagreed, saying that it's just a funny image and not meant to be taken literally. One person shared their experience with a militant feminist professor who used an advertisement as an example in her ethics class. The advertisement was clearly trying to sell a service, but the message was also deeply sexist.
The group discussed how this kind of sexism is problematic because it can perpetuate harmful stereotypes and attitudes towards women. They agreed that while memes like the "distracted boyfriend" might be funny, they can also be hurtful and exclusionary. The conversation ended with the realization that memes have the power to shape our perceptions and attitudes towards women, and that advertisers have a responsibility to be mindful of their messaging.
A different perspective on this was shared by someone who has never been discriminated against in their workplace or with clients. They pointed out that advertisements are one thing, but personal interactions with people can be very different. They mentioned that they've had experiences where they felt discriminated against, and how it's much more frustrating when it's systemic rather than individual.
The conversation took a lighter turn as someone joked about needing to invest in moth and lamp memes. This was followed by two separate stories of being discriminated against, one from college days with a militant feminist chair of the department who gave an example of an advertisement that left everyone uncomfortable, and another instance where they were dealing with people they work with.
The conversation ended with a final observation about how advertisements can be both clever and off-putting. One person mentioned that they don't think it's necessarily sexist to use humor like this in advertising, but rather the intent behind it is what matters. They acknowledged that everyone has different comfort levels when it comes to humor and messaging.
"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhello you've made it through another week it's Friday October 5th and you're here for the last episode of the news and it's like 90% security and 10% nonsense and then like robot - robot yeah T robot if you're just joining us if you're one of those people who only shows up for the nonsense day of course you'll notice that Wendell is not here Wendell uh there was some a little bit of a scandal here at the level one office father have been some accusations that thirty years ago Wendell might have made some unsolicited sexual advances toward a dial-up modem so he was about what while that's being investigated people won't be on the level one news I'm sorry we're gonna clear that up as quickly as possible what five years old there was it was a weird time like nine thank I don't know I realize I don't know how old Wendell is exactly well we're not gonna not gonna spin old I'm a mouth yeah do you get the correlation that I do get the correlation but I was thinking about why honey that would be why are you gonna step on my joke I was thinking about the logistics of the joke and how funny its funnier because he would have been very little well let's talk about Google and Google doing things that they probably shouldn't but that we all know they do Google data collection research I don't remember what the story was about okay this was about still we forgot this is this is not a shock but it turns out that Google on the Android platform is constantly looking at your location and you're saying no no I turn off location right but it does I'm hardcore I know about those tricks I'm not a nor me well it turns out that's not what's happening if you have the Chrome browser open it will call home with your location data among other things about 340 times a day saying it has to be draining your battery - right oh my gosh it's like they did the same experiment on a Apple device doesn't happen really yeah that's terrifying so yeah unfortunate that Google is doing that to us and now we have a huge swath of ZDNet stories yeah there are that's all they're all pushing the same video with that lady in it yeah she looks very upset about something but I don't know what she saw she's got some serious opinions I don't know what they are and guess what I don't care but I do care about this Google is secretly logging users into Chrome whenever they log into a Google site but you're thinking again I don't have a Google Chrome account what suckers do that that doesn't matter well it's just your regular Google account thing but I think yes but why would you why would you log into the browser is that the only thing that grants you is Google's ability to track you well it turns out if you log into Google Play or Gmail or whatever any of the guide services you will be logged in to Chrome and and you will stay logged in and they will track you you ever use Google Analytics yeah it's terrible it's terrible it's my least favorite part of their suite of products well how do you feel about Amp you know you're going to analytics terrible worse do you I've ever used and continuing on the bad security news for Android password managers can be tricked into believing that malicious Android apps are legitimate say you have a malicious app called like Facebook even though it's obviously not Facebook so you know you go to do your password and stuff it automatically fills it in and then it gets your password when you submit it and that name string seems to be the only thing that a lot of these password managers are looking at they're like oh we know an app called Facebook let's be it you can send it a password so you create your own app you spoof the Facebook name you build a login that looks exactly like Facebook's login and that password manager will happily fill it in for the user and when they press submit they're actually giving you their login that has to be like how often do people install those sort of apps though you think Facebook users like the fit I guess stay on your mind nevermind I'll say who installs a fake facebook app but ok point taken you know who I bet install a lot of Facebook apps Wendy's employees not the strongest segways lawsuit for unlawfully collecting employee fingerprints this is illegal in Chicago right it is illegal in Chicago so what Chicago has learned is that these biometric readers are almost always third-party companies I don't know in this case if that's true but it probably is I mean problem is Wendy's really doing their own I don't think anyone because I used to work at a grocery store that's how you you clocked in you was the third party I think so I there's no way that this grocery store I was doing that themselves so what happened last time there wasn't Wendy's it was another company the biometric company went out of business and when you go into bankruptcy you have to sell everything of value to try to get the creditors their money back and guess what thumb prints have value someone wants to buy that so now you've just sold all of your Wendy's employees thumb prints what's interesting about our is like I wonder if it just logged in just with the thumbprint because we had to put in a username and password - I think it was because it wasn't just clocking in and out but they had the registers and stuff locked oh so you had to identify yourself before you did transactions okay ours was all just username password but then you had the fingerprint on top of it I'm not sure why it was double that way but well that makes sense if you're doing that once a day but if you're running around you know and you got taken order real quick I can't see them bothering doing both yeah it's interesting well mobile websites of course we talked about Android and chrome and all that horrible stuff but this is a I don't know if you'd call this a security breach I mean it is but I think it's by design yeah I think so too mobile websites actually have a lot more permissions than you think and a lot more than apps they can tap into your sensors so they can tell if they're near something if the phone is being tilted number of other items like it wasn't a photo photo since there's a light and darkness they can tell movement and it's all it's been proven yeah it's been proven that you have a unique like when you're typing in your password yeah your phone rocks back and forth at a certain cadence and they can work that out and it's difficult to do but the more people the more data they have the easier it gets so if they're just constantly you know think about Google was just constantly phishing that data off the website they have a real good instead of data and they feed that to one of those discriminatory eyes and they know your password the the sensor thing on the mobile web sites I'm not too surprised by that having seen some different mobile web sites that like you know it's like a game sort of thing we could tilt your phone around or but I can see maybe in the future if people get upset about this maybe having the same sort of look like pop up it's like we use no your to do this I wonder if the well the existing gdpr and the US GDP are do you think I'll actually consider this kind of thing this is such a weird edge case right it might be less of one though as phones get more powerful when people start building websites for mobile well mobile is already yeah huge breaking into the majority so I don't know do you think there's any website that has it built in where it's like if sitting in total darkness run ads the target loneliness I bet they're already websites that determine whether or not to show light or dark mode based on that would be your level yeah I'd be nice it would be really nice there's some that do it based on time but it'd be cool if it did it based on your flight new location of course the phone itself can do some of that well not to be we don't want to leave out those Apple users right now we're talking about Android mostly but you can't leave out Apple users they must be included Apple's device enrollment program can leak sensitive information about devices and their owners I don't remember these specifics of how this works exactly so the enrollment program is a way to simplify onboarding new Apple devices onto usually you bigger customers do this kind of thing so it's like hey we got a new hire we need to get their iPad up and running this is a simplified way to doing that they just do the serial numbers just do it with a serial number so if you can get somebody's serial number these researchers figured out you can hit an API in an unexpected way and get information back about that device on its owner but more importantly once you are that far along you can sign a new device up on that network and sometimes they have things like Wi-Fi and VPNs that automatically set up just when you are on boarded onto the network so now you're in on their network on the Wi-Fi seems like that would be a lot of steps and a lot of weird edge cases but maybe not well if it's a big corporation you know the corporate espionage you you're willing to go way further than that to get some sweet passwords get in on that network snoop around and what if it's all secrets what if it's a high-ranking person who's serial number that you again although it could be important amazing store phone calls that you need to be part of but what about the plebs what about it feel like listen I don't bother with any of that stuff I'm just a normal Instagram thought I use my phone for that kind of thing well guess what you're in trouble as well hi phone access passcode bypasses bypass hack exposes contacts and photos this is kind of weird it seems like it's I mean it's pretty clearly a bug but like you can use Siri I feel like the passcode thing if you change a contact person's photo you're able to see all the other photos on the phone I assume because you're selecting a new one right you're you you Siri to get to a contact edit that's the bug and when you're on the contact edit you can change the image which brings up the image browser which allows you to browse all the images seems again it's one of the things like probably probably not a huge deal but I guess if you've got your what if listen you've got like three weeks worth of Instagram posts you're an influencer and the world should not be able to see those legging shots until you're ready right these are pre-processing you have to do post on these things y'all have to be Photoshop yeah I mean you know you went a little hard in September at the buffet and you're gonna have to shape some things down a little bit and it could ruin your completely the gym could be huge I was just gonna say I would be embarrassed by how many pictures I have my dog on my phone you know I was in your office the other day for a conference call and I was a little bit shocked and a little bit scandalized to see that your dog is not your desktop background in fact it's a cat it's my boyfriend's maybe not anymore so you can't that's not even in your life anymore takes priority over your precious dog listen I don't have a good picture to put on the do I do but I haven't selected one I had a picture of Reeve on the bed but like when I got that new monitor when I tried to blow that image up it just looked terrible so I switched it back to the picture of Rob Thomas Thomas is good cat he's a good boy Haman room would be best friends you think probably not no Ron ruse end yes on the cat's end probably not well this story you know this is something that whoever wrote this Cyrus Favre our what a name and he wrote it at 4:00 a.m. must be another time zone I he you know like he's a man after my own heart where he thinks up the darkest the darkest timeline and everything this one's not hard to think of a dark timeline for so apples watch has an auto 911 feature so like if it senses you know you fall down or something like that and then if you don't move for like what is it three minutes two minutes two minutes then it's gonna put in a 9-1-1 call but the dark timeline is what if you're like just getting wasted in the comfort of your own home you fall and you're just like oh i'm not getting up for a minute calls 9-1-1 they break in and see all your illegal substances and that is first of all they can break in they're doing a wellness check because of a 9-1-1 call they can break in and when they break in whatever they see is fair game in terms of you know a search this is also true by the way if you call the ems or the fire department they are trained to report to like they can't arrest you but they will report everything they see to the police as soon as they leave so that's just that was the first thing that came to our minds when he read this story there's probably other even darker story lines you could come up with your own head leave your fan fiction in the comments below yeah we're happy to read it well even if you're not doing anything illegal it's just kind of creepy to think that yeah well sometimes you just fall over and like just lay down I usually don't late on your carpet after a long day but I think it does beep and like trata it's like hey oh it's are you so you would have to be out of it okay cuz sometimes you know I just like to lay down on the floor after a while okay well after a long and I don't have anything bad in my house it's just but I mean however that would be awkward if I'm just laying there and I'll sit in the cops were like well what are you okay man what if you know they kick down the door and here comes a little Roo excitement peeing I might see that as aggression and I shoot it oh yeah oh wow she's doing really good incredible bring her in here I'll get her to pee I was gonna bring her today I might bring her for the stream later well uh I didn't pre read the story that was a good conversation I didn't I didn't prepare myself ready to go so this one yeah got no segue for this one this is about a Chinese hotel hacker who was really a security researcher but it shows that when you are a security researcher we still have to be careful because well if you're not being paid for it security researcher fine for hacking a hotel Wi-Fi and putting passwords on the Internet this was in Singapore this was in Singapore this was a Chinese guy it was a 10-cent hotel which means ten cent that massive software company they've also got hotels that's not even surprising to me everyone was branches out as soon as they have enough money yeah so he uh it was like wrote a security blog he actually got into the Wi-Fi and he used a like a open telnet port or something and then he used that to get further in he got into their whole system he didn't do anything bad it spoke true yeah I didn't do any damage but he did and showing screenshots of what he did expose some of the guests of the hotel's accounts and the hotel itself so he got fined $5,000 it was oh you're right five thousand Singapore whatever thirty five hundred US dollars yeah which not really important to the story it's so much but we just wanted to stop Corrections before they come I don't care anymore I've lost like they're so pedantic well some of the corrections are fine yeah like little stuff like that it's like a forty to one ratio yeah so it's it's signal-to-noise is so low that you can't keep track of the other ones so whatever I think people like it it's a it's like they're just screaming into the voice let them to it yeah well you know we've talked about some similar things this we talked about not exact story like well is that there was one about how they were gonna try to use Wi-Fi to track everything about your health you remember that one yeah I know there was one where they were gonna track your joints to see your movement skeleton spooky story for Halloween but this was all about just counting people you can count people using Wi-Fi through walls this seems like this would have liver to the use cases other than a party trick but what about Disney people waiting in line for the Haunted Mansion I guess like so you can display like there are a hundred people in line you should probably just oh no need art can go home Disney pays a lot of money to determine how many people are moving through the park and standing in line for various things at a given time really yeah although I've never been to like Disney World or Disneyland they want like that they want immediate feedback on what's doing well and what needs to change you know I mean imagine the level of analytics that Google has Disney wants that for the park that's true when I went to Disney when I was a young man I hear a small child actually they actually just had guys standing next to door with those little hand click click click all day long and they would like engage you and you know like be friendly probably just to break up the monotony like they actually fly over told never to speak to the guest but it was like please talk to me yeah so I guess that's a utility they could be using it for it seems but there I could see a lot look think about waiting room and a Danis office or something like that can you just count I guess then you don't have to count just well no you can keep track over it like not just it's like I wonder how many people are there but all day long you're hitting a database with number of waiting people and so maybe you need to know how many more nurses to hire well yeah the other day you look at that data and you're like you know what we're over booking by this percentage it's useful people are gonna make comments about how useful it is and someone we're gonna be terrifying it's true what we talked about was jail - was it it was Delta who was doing biometrics and it was biometrics so they've made a huge advancement but they've may be taking a step back as well Delta computer glitches Force flight halts third year in a row that's why you don't fly Delta along with a host of other reasons well the fact that they're tracking your face it's not enough Delta - Delta that killed all those dogs there's a different one it was American oh well the Delta where they beat the Asian man it's you know how that was do not it I think that was United United revery wanted to kill the dogs - yeah but for three years in a row Delta has had critical problems and it's not anything wrong with the planes it's not anything wrong with any other services just software something goes bad I'm gonna like I don't know just ground the planes I will say as a young girl I got to go see the captain a couple times on flights and they would give me wings I got the little gold wing pan kid and I thought that was awesome did you see there was one airline that got in trouble cuz the boys got the wings and the girls got like flight attendant pins I got wings as a kid well they recognized your potential yeah she could be a pilot I don't she won't even wear vision correction to drive and you don't always have it you don't know do you sometimes you're like I can't see that on that I always have I always have contacts oh that's just bad you just have the wrong ones no they're right I get mine unlike this guy I actually get my eyes checked out but I can see the screen and you can yes listen I wear reading glasses when I'm programming at work so I can see note that better world so we talked about the face scanning at Delta and in the last episode we talked about how revolutionary it was but Homeland Security has released a report and I don't know it's rife with technical problems which I mean that's not surprising though right I mean know if you're just looking at face that seems now this I think this system is a little different homeland security system is different than built the system but I imagine it's roughly the same technology but yeah Homeland Security is supposed to have facial scanning to keep us protected sounds like the terrorists can't get through but they're saying that no it's not supposed to be completely done until 2021 and they're already now think about this they have until 2021 but now at the end of 2018 they're like hang on yes it's not gonna work pump the brakes here you're too ambitious except they're saying they're not saying pump the brakes thing we need more funding is probably what they're saying they're saying hit the flaps throttle down keep going well Subaru this we've switched to robots and this is a story that points out when robots go wrong remember boats go bad coding error since 2019 Subaru the cents to the car crusher this was one mistake one welding mistake that a robot made on pretty much a whole lot of cars this was the weld that welds the doors to the body which seems like that would be kind of interest so if you were to stress that for example hit it with another car those doors might pop right off so yeah this was not like a GTA car this was not a problem with the robots themselves this was just bad programming if you're one of those people who is doom and gloom about oh my god the robots are gonna take over and people are gonna be useless this should make you feel good right yeah it's always gonna be someone or they'll say we need better to screw it up the Luddites will get in there mess up the code I'm security that's a thing some programmers do that yeah which is terrible they shouldn't I've seen that yeah oh well also also good news and if you're if you love AI if you're the opposite you love I I you can't wait for the what's what's the Kurzweil call it I don't know I can't believe I can't remember that if you had tried to think of it you would know it's the event when you know like humans in AI come together singularity yeah yeah that's where we go this is if you're if you're German you know they love efficiency and I do and being on time they just launched the world's first Thomas Tran hot stone I'm probably someone's gonna be like walkers I thought you come here dance right so this thing it's uh I mean the trend that's a pretty simple thing to drive around right yeah yeah it's just the throttle and brakes but this also will monitor the the tracks ahead with lidar and all that self-driving type of stuff so well there's still a guy sitting in there in case something goes to catastrophic ly wrong but his job just got way easier he likes it yeah he applauded it they did point out like the children are often playing on the tracks and that's a common thing and they showed the software ebony uh they showed in the software how it immediately like detected that and slowed down a little bit but they were far but they were a long way away so it didn't stop but it was like okay I recognize those are children it took some action as they were adults even go speed up yeah teach them a lesson well that's you know maybe the evil German AI figures out it's more efficient to run over a certain number of people than stop as those making those decisions that's a good story well now it's time to move into nonsense and our first story pretty nonsense it's uh it's the relationship to technology is there in terms of social media so don't tell me that it's not Monday psychology lecture begins with a bang the professor had a porn video open and the students recorded it while it was going on he apologized immediately and turned it off that point now but here's the thing about it he apologized but I don't think he could have done anything but apologize because this is University of South Toronto he was even apologised even if it's just a lecture he was incapable of not apologizing but he did this wasn't one of those things where he claimed that he was just doing research I remember the guy that they tweeted his screenshot it was some horrific like pornography type thing and he claimed and his son he was showing it to his son and he claimed that he was just doing research and showing his son how dangerous the internet could be Alex Jones got busted looking at Corey something - he owned it that thing but this guy was like yep that's what I was doing I'm sorry won't happen again which I think that's the way you have to handle that yeah I mean I would be kinda grossed out you bet your butt I would be gossiping about it later but like I mean but not the end of the world not the end of the world why does this what there's no there's no headlines because they're so the header there's position:fixed and but they have to have did we see there's fire Java scripting hit f5 refresh that I don't have the keyboard well you use the button oh yeah there was an ad oh no it's blocking an ad yeah that's so extreme tech what are you doing extreme tech you built your page design as if the ad was always going to load and when it doesn't load you lose your headline but we can read it up here in the title bar this is the one about the they're only accepting DVD the Pentagon has a new program a state of the art program but they're only gonna accept submissions on DVD this one does you know I when I applied for my job I was like listen I could send you guys a portfolio on my resume but I think that I am a shining beacon of personality and that I shine best on DVD or VHS cassette but think about how annoying it's gonna be to have to order a DVD burner how annoying it's gonna have to be for the people who are trying to fill positions and they have to watch a DVD well no it doesn't have to be video oh I was thinking like action no no it'll be data cuz this is a data project but still why would you do that exactly it doesn't really matter yeah I heard DVD I just thought like video cassette but yeah that's it's just a ridiculous obviously it's the government they move so slowly there's some kind of security thing maybe they don't want well there's a lot of places that'll be like you know you put in your application online where you submit all those fields and then it's like upload your resume so you do that and then it's like fill out all this other stuff on top of that that would be in your resume this the other part of this is it must be delivered by hand you can't mail this in because it's like a real secure project it's just that make sense yeah because you have you know there's a face and a name and I checked in at a security checkpoint they project their thumbprint of somebody who brought software into the Pentagon oh wow well it's foolishness some people curse their children with dumb names and I don't know if they they just don't care they don't think about it guys but this this guy there was there was no escaping it he just has a terrible name and now Facebook's policies are blocking him from doing what he wants in life because of his unfortunate name poor mr. anus the council candidate given a bum deal by facebook bum deal do you see what they did there get it is that part of the but that's another word for it Luke anus that's this guy's name and it sounds kind of like a superhero named uh named Luke eNOS like if you say it all together like you know Luke a gnat captain eNOS no like Luke eight Lucas that sounds like a mortal kombat character yeah yeah Luke anus he's Opie right now so he wants to run for some political office and he actually has a campaign and he's had to change like Facebook will not let him in as Lucas so he's changed all of his campaigning stuff to Luke a new he's campaigning as Luke a new we've heard we've run into this before on projects we've worked on where we'll get a list of banned words and I mean it'll just be ridiculous this is clearly a fake names like no that could be a real name no I mean yeah the one that so the reason we had to implement that on the one project is someone signed up as destroyer let's set it on their profile and everything - it's really funny I mean it's really Charlie well they were never high school children yeah but still even as a high schooler cuz you did this for a grade and somebody had the balls to sign up is that probably just to like I mean aid to make their friends laugh or to like make the teacher angry you know what I hate to admit it made me laugh a lot and then I forged to everybody in the office and they also laughed well then we got the list of bad names oh so good and you know high school students they can be funny yeah they can be hilarious the child is sort of way I can come up with some good things doting high school mothers they can be some of the most unbearable people on the planet and this is a perfect example of that unbearable mama bear mother files federal lawsuit after son doesn't make varsity team I is this really the end of the world I hope so because how can we go on this so this is a soccer team st. Louis I guess and the rule is when you hit junior year you can't be in junior varsity anymore you have to go out for the varsity team well this young man wasn't very good and he didn't make the team and the rule is hey the younger players need a place to play so you're not allowed to just go back in a junior varsity after you suck at varsity and this mom she didn't like that I just don't understand like why not just join him into a city league instead of the high school team like was because he is a special little angel snowflake and he deserves to be appreciated as such you could still you could still play now the grounds of her lawsuit mentioned things such as the girls team doesn't do it this way so it's not fair and I think that kids embarrassed oh my god do you think his forever he will be remembered as the kid whose mom sued because he was sick he sucked at soccer she just oh I wouldn't like I might be kind of annoyed that I couldn't at least play at least in some league in high school but I wouldn't want my parents to get all up in arms about it and go to school I begged my mom not to go to school for stuff like no no like I'll deal with it well yeah you want to deal with it yourself yeah and I think you should you should be forced to deal with it yourself because that's cool yeah yeah you're supposed to be learning like I have to get some sort of personal accountability in life but you know the the modern the younger generations they don't like personal accountability maybe he was fine with it maybe he's like I'll get to play ball if he wasn't at the time I bet he's changed his tune now he wishes this never happened yeah it failed they backed up the school and the coach but it had to go to a federal lawsuit which is just astonishing well here's the question and you know what here's another situation where I wish windle's here because I think this would be interesting the two of us the two of us we really don't care too much about our phones I mean a phone is convenient mostly it's convenient when you're pooping I'll see I was gonna say when we go to lunch and we argue about some sort of yeah we're lucky we have to look it up is Betty White still alive and you have to know you just go right in there 90% of the stuff on my smartphone is looking up crap like that right or you know if you have to wait in some capacity here you're all changed or yeah you know you're in traffic it's dead stop traffic or whatever you can't move you got something to do but Wendell is on a whole other level with phone dependence it's it's astonishing how often is to ask him recently like how many people is he following on Twitter because I don't follow that many people so like my Twitter phone doesn't update very much use Twitter is like his world yeah it's amazing but so the reason I mentioned that is because the question is what would you give up in order to keep your phone and some British Columbians have weighed in on this yeah I think it's well done so they can see the graphics here we read that line more than a quarter of British Columbians will give up a spouse first smartphone so that's a quarter for a spouse aged 25 to 54 next up what was next heat a third of people and this is British Columbia it gets cold yeah and finally a day's wage of fifth IJ's wage is crazy to me that is crazy because how are you gonna keep your phone running if you can't pay those data plans well think about all the other goods that like goods and services you can get you could be on Amazon ordering things what do you doing on phone yeah where you could do it on a PC they don't have one they also they also admitted a huge percentage of those people slept with their phone like either in their hand or next to them on the bed so that in case the vibration they wake up and I can immediately do I mean I usually keep mine on charge but it's usually up on my dresser like well so a disgusting display from the British Columbians I hope they apologize after they answer those questions I'm sorry sorry sorry but I have to be truthful that's the other thing you know it's hard for him to lie because genetically they're Canadian and so it's probably we got a lot of truth out of that study we wouldn't have gotten in other countries it's good to see the story baffles me I don't I don't quite understand the vitter all why why they are so angry but it is interesting the Swiss soccer fans temporarily stopped a soccer game to protest esports silly that's right they unfurled this big pause banner after throwing controllers and tennis balls onto the pitch in order to stop the match I am I don't understand this maybe they really hate you no excu see the seagull at all well players know stuff yeah my something those are overwatch players yeah it seems like the big one that they're protesting is FIFA and my best understanding is that FIFA might be pulling interest away from actual soccer which that seems crazy to me I feel like you'd want to watch real soccer instead of FIFA bit maybe well I guess you can play feet I mean you can play soccer yourself too but not at the level someone is playing in like an actual and not around the clock we're convenience yeah FIFA though like you actually stand a chance of gaining the skills to play it's a lot it's so it's true that there are a small percentage of people genetically no matter how hard you work you were never gonna get to a certain level with soccer probably gonna say in overwatch because I Diamond dip no you could you waste your time on useless things when you should be flying over watch what I'm saying it's much more likely that with just constant playing you're gonna get further in FIFA than you would in real soccer yeah physically you're just gonna reach a point where exactly yeah or maybe you know they're like 5 - you know yeah and it's just not gonna happen for your little stumpy legs are never gonna carry you to fame whereas they might they might in FIFA let me just kick him up on the couch eat pizza rolls while you play 24 hours a day beef is very popular internationally I have a friend who lives that in Africa and she says that like all of the like cafes and stuff that's where well it runs playing Fifa madness big here yeah I don't I don't understand like the playing real sports in a eSport arena remember the guy that he lost at Madden and came back and shot the place up yeah yeah literally crazy literally that's exactly what that is well you know what else is crazy robot lawn mowers and their reign of terror scroll down so they can get the full back to the photo robot lawn mowers are killing Hedgehog look at the sky they are oh my god they are adorable they are they're not native to the US we don't have them at all yeah I mean you're gonna miss a pad but yeah they're like exotic fun Oh certainly these are being run over by robots I was surprised to find out that in Europe robot lawn mowers are totally normal everybody hasn't I was more surprised that people were that upset about the hedgehogs I wonder though I mean not to say that they're not adorable that they deserve they do deserve to live but like people run over rabbits here all the time I don't think that rabbits are quite as common as hedgehogs in terms of people's yards but I also wonder if the smaller land mass and the higher population density meaning everybody's has a fairly small yard probably is it I think these electric mowers would have trouble with like two acres that's Jeff it's like a Roomba trying to do two acres but yeah they are complaining because the robot lawnmowers are not very advanced in terms like Bill they can see a human-sized thing and stop but a hedgehog they don't care I mean and usually now the sad part is they usually don't kill it outright it'll take off a leg or you know scalp it or you know take off its back or something like that something that's probably gonna die from an infection yeah some horrible horrible Hedgehog day so they're looking at different ways of dealing with it they're working on what they call the mustache which is like uh like broom fibers on the front of the thing they like push the Hedgehog's out of the way maybe put your gold rings pop-out they're also talking about changing like instead of one big blade it's like a lot of multiple smaller blades that spin in their own on a big blade and somehow that's less dangerous for the I understand he'll have a relevant story about a lawnmower when I was at my aunt's wedding one of the younger kids he recently fell off a lawnmower and messed up his arm pretty good he's doing fine now but while we're in the middle of rehearsal dinner or you know their actual rehearsal we're standing up there and the preacher saying you know here's how everything's gonna work this little boy yells out I got hit by a lawnmower like just screams it out to the crowd and there's just long awkward silence cuz no one knows what to say and he goes I really did though but that that was not an electric lawnmower that was a big-ass zero turns every two inch dick American lawn mower yeah cuz we do it was okay thankfully but it was brutal well he's probably I mean he would've been better having not been hit by the wall yeah he might not be a quarterback ever because of that yeah he might get kicked off the junior varsity it's so funny how he's just bounce back from it though I got hit by a lawnmower it was like not really mention you know youth you're good at it's it's kind of weird like you were three years old when you're a tiny tiny baby anything will kill you and then you hit a tipping point where it's just like they'll they'll bounce back from that yeah and he really has it's crazy it was just funny him yelling it out but he's got a great story you know how when you go to like here in college and I do that stupid thing where it's like let's all stand up and say something about ourselves I think he's got that he's got that nailed every single time when I was 2 years old I got a great story had to wear a cast we had to do his little like white shirt they had to like rip it oh and because it's the smartphone age I bet he's got like a million pictures of it to you oh yeah he does I took some pictures of him yesterday he was cute hit a little yellow bow tile well pictures are what our last story is about not just pictures but me just mean we know the power of memes in fact they're so powerful that in Sweden they've ruled that this one is for too powerful now you mean if you're Swedish you may want to you know look away the distracted boyfriend meme is sexist rules witty Swedish ad watchdog I I always thought this meat was funny there's also a female version using a reverse version of this stock yeah I've seen that one as well and like you're just funny it is very funny I mean it's obviously over-the-top it's meant to convey I stock photos usually are right like they're ridiculous and I think the idea of sexism like like you say this doesn't have to be men and women yeah in this role well it could be three guys there was a yeah there was a version that had the the woman looking back at a guy well exactly yeah so I don't agree with the sexism here I mean it's funny it was used an even funnier way you know that they put other things on their faces yeah I bet you've got a group of people who are looking to be offended by something my favorite version of this is the girl in the light blue holding the boyfriend's hand his mark farmer and then the boy is Dennis or the girl walking in the other directions death darker version of it oh gosh that's hilarious I made me laugh but yeah the so they they've ruled that this cannot be used in advertisement because advertisement is not allowed to be sexist they say that Sweden is really high ranking when it comes to you know like gender equality and all that but when it comes to advertising they're very bad about using sexist advertising I could do that are you at all offended if you go down if you've seen a billboard and it's an ad based on this does your mind go to sexism at all see my thought is that the meme economy of this just went down because it's being used in advertisements not it's like oh not cool anymore now I have to move on time to invest in moths and lamp means I can think of at least two separate occasions where I believe that you have actually been discriminated against not by this workplace no but with people we work with yeah clients and those situations are wildly different than this yeah I mean it's very obvious when that's going down and I mean advertisements are one thing it's more frustrating when it's like that systematic you know no I've never had to call these people on that kind of crap before when I was in college I had a a militant feminist chair of the department oh my god I hate her and I had to take an ethics course under her and so she gave us an example and there was a there was an advertisement and it was like we offer every level of support and it was like you know temporary support and it was clearly a hooker and mid-range support which was like you know a girl in like a you know a nice dress like you might get got on a date with and long-term support and it was a woman in a wedding dress and she was like lists words list one word that you feel this advertisement you know what it represents to you and Mom was effective the anger in her eyes when I said that it was like it was like Satan was just channeling I mean it's a garbage advertisement of it but it got the point across yeah I've made it was clever it was memorable and you understood what they were trying to sell you based on that but it would have been just as funny if it was dudes like that yeah like I don't know how you I can think of like a gay prostitute you know how that would how that dress would be maybe it's the beard you know long-term boyfriend than the husband I don't know yeah there's a way we have to think about it but you can do it yeah point that is effective is the one which I'm not saying it's probably not sexist but it's not I wouldn't say it's offensively so I wouldn't be really offended by that well that's the end thanks for joining us we're back next week someone else should be rejoining us after he's taken care of the problems we talked about all three different scenarios that ride with the same one every time I don't know what you're talking about yeah we'll see you then\n"