All Questions, All the Time! _ Talking Cars with Consumer Reports #173

Welcome to Talking Cars: An All Questions Episode

Hello and welcome back to Talking Cars, I'm Keith Barry. I'm joined today by Ryan Pszczolkowski, and we're also here with Mike. This is going to be an all-questions episode, so get ready for a fun and informative conversation about transmissions, tires, winter driving, and more. We love these questions from our audience, and we have a ton of them to get through today.

We receive so many questions from you folks, it's hard to get through them all, because there's just so many great ones. When you send your question to TalkingCars@icloud.com, we have a backlog of them, and we're trying to get through as many as we can today. If you're waiting to see your question get answered, keep watching, because it could happen today.

Let's take a look at the first question from Julie from California. Love the show, love the Mikes! She has a question about her 2010 Toyota Venza, which has around 113,000 miles. The dealer told her she needed to change the transmission fluid, but then a friend said, "You don't want to start messing with that once it's over 100,000 miles." So Julie needs our expert advice on what's going on.

So, let's go talk to one of the Mikes and get some answers. Yeah, so apparently, Julie has a fan. She just wants to know if she should change the transmission fluid in her Venza. What I would say is that first of all, it's a great question, but what she'll want to do is listen to her friend because her friend said don't change the transmission fluid. If Julie looked at her maintenance schedule of her manual, it actually says that the dealers should check the transmission fluid every 30,000, 60,000, 90,000, and 120,000 miles.

And when they do that, they'll be looking to see if there's any burning smell, are there any leaks anywhere. And apparently, none of that has come up at all. Never in the manual does it ever say anything about changing that transmission fluid, which means it's probably what's called a life-time transmission fluid. So what can happen is, when you change the transmission fluid at this time, it could actually make things worse. You kind of want to let things be the way they are inside there and just keep going. It's a Toyota; it's probably going to go to 200,000 miles honestly, without needing any major repairs.

It's like one of those restaurants, like the greasy spoon place. They change the fryer oil, and all of a sudden, the pancakes aren't so great anymore. Don't ever do that. You know, it's just not worth messing around with something that's working fine. So in this case, just don't change that transmission fluid. It's like one of those things that's better left alone.

Next up, we have a question from Chris in Athens, Georgia. We'll take a look at his question and get some answers for him.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enThis week, you are thestar of the episodeas we answer your questionsabout transmissions, tires,winter driving and more,next on Talking Cars.Hey, welcome back.I'm Keith BarryI'm Ryan Pszczolkowski.And I'm like MikeAnd this is a great episode.We love these.This is an allquestions episode.So we get a ton ofquestions from you folks.It is hard to get through themall, because there's so many,and they're all great.And when you send your questionsto TalkingCars@icloud.com,we have a backlogof them, and we'retrying to get througha bunch of them today.So if you're waiting to seeyour question get answered,keep watching, because thisone, we might get to you.It could happen today.It could happen.So the first one,Julie from California.Let's see.Love the show.Love the Mikes.I have a question aboutmy 2010 Toyota Venza.It has about 113,000 miles.Dealer told me I needed tochange the transmission fluid,but then a friend said you don'twant to start messing with thatonce it's over 100,000 miles.So I need to knowthe real story.Talk to me.Thanks.All right, so Julieloves the Mikes,and she has a questionabout her Venza.So let's go to one of the Mikes,the Mike we have here today,to answer it.Yeah, so apparently,I have a fan.I have one fan.OK.So Julie, what Iwould say is, firstof all, that's a great question.But what she's going to wantto do is listen to her friend,because her friend said don'tchange the transmission fluid.If she looked at her maintenanceschedule of her manual,it actually says that the dealershould check the transmissionfluid every 30,000, 60,000,90,000 and 120,000 miles.And when they do that, they'llbe looking know to see,is there any burning smell,are there any leaks anywhere.And apparently, none ofthat has come up at all.Never in the manualdoes it ever sayanything about changing thattransmission fluid, whichmeans it's probablywhat's called a lifetimetransmission fluid.And so what can happen is, whenyou change the transmissionfluid at this time, it couldactually make things worse.And so you kind ofwant to let thingsbe the way they are insidethere and just keep going.It's a Toyota.It's probably going togo to 200,000 miles,honestly, without--If it's not broken,don't fix it.Exactly.So in this case, just don'tchange that transmission fluid.It's like one ofthose restaurants,like the greasy spoon place.And they changethe fryolator oil.And all of a sudden,the pancakes aren't--Don't ever do that.Yeah, don't do that.Yeah, it's terrible.All right, oursecond question isfrom Chris in Athens, Georgia.\"In the 2018 Subaru Imprezahatchback road test video,the car is praised for goodhandling and great reliabilityscores across categorieslike engine major/minorand transmission.But it only gets a twofor overall reliability.It seems that this is relatedto infotainment issues thatwere addressed in an update.Can I buy this carwithout hesitation?Would you update thereliability ratingsif a recall addresseskey issues?\"So Impreza.Impreza.Good questions.Yeah?This is a good question.What do you think?So they did do theirhomework, and they looked upthe reliability data.This particularsituation, the caractually had a in-carelectronics issue.The good news withthat is you can update.The dealer canupdate and fix that.In this particular situation,it was actually a recall,so Subaru has issueda fix for this.I say, go buy the car.I wouldn't worry about it.It'll probably be fixedwhen it comes off the lot,because they've alreadyhad it at the dealer there.To answer the otherpart of the question,because it was a recall, it willbe updated the next go-aroundof our reliability data.But as it is right now, that's--unfortunately, itoriginally came outof the factory that way.There was an issue, andwe let people know that,because there was an issue.Yeah.And a recall is, I mean,still a day off of work.I mean, you stillhave to go in--Unfortunately.But every other reliabilitypoint was very good or great.So I wouldn't hesitate.It's a good car.Yeah.Totally agree.Cool, all right.Cool, all right, next question.We're gettingthrough these quick.David from Victoria,British Columbia,one of our Canadiancontingent of fans.Hello.\"Hi, folks.Longtime viewer,first time caller.\"Ha.I like that.\"My wife drivesa 2010 Honda CR-Vthat's coming up on100,000 kilometers.\"See, that's why Imentioned he's from Canada.That's Canadian, yeah.Yeah, that is Canadian.\"Everything worksfine, but I'm worriedabout how much life to expect.\"From the car, I hope.\"What should I belooking out for,or when should we startcontemplating replacement?Thanks.\"Well, I'd be looking out forhigh blood pressure, any--oh, sorry.I'm worried about that.OK, yeah, definitely.I still got a bad thumb.I'd be worried for that.Got to heal this thing up.100,000 kilometers, what's that?Like 60,000 miles?62,000 miles.So I mean, honestly,with a vehicle like this,the CR-V has a strongreliability record.That's basicallyjust breaking itin at this point, 62,000miles or 100,000 kilometers.So I mean, I would say there'sreally nothing to worry aboutat the present time.And I mean, it'll probably goanother 100,000 kilometers.It's a Honda.Exactly.No, the CR-V's been very strong.It's nothing toworry about at all.Just keep driving it and--Of that vintage, that CR-V.Yeah, that vintage.And they're not putting verymany kilometers on it per yearanyway.I mean, it's a pretty old car.Yeah.And they have very low miles,or kilometers, whatever.Just take care of that thing,and it'll go a long, long--Yeah, that's the otherthing I was going to say.Make sure you keep followingwhat your owner's manual saysto do as far as scheduledmaintenance and services thatneed to be done, andthat thing should justkeep on going like a clock.Yeah.So hold onto your CR-V.Yeah.Awesome, great.Joseph from Columbus, Ohio.\"I'm wondering, what doyou think of the 2008to 2009 Pontiac G8 GT?\"Mm-hm.Yes.\"I've heardlots of good things,and I'm considering buying one.How has overallreliability held up,and would it bea good purchase?\"Well, it's a 10-year-oldcar, so that'skind of the number onething, the caveat wehave to throw in there, right.And it's not a Honda.Nope.It is a Pontiac.Or a Toyota.Yeah.But--It's so fun.It's so fun.Honestly, just get it.Just get it.That's a great car.Yeah.Yeah, I mean, it's fun to drive.It's a V8 rear wheeldrive comfortable sedan.Doesn't get anybetter than that.It's like a four-door Corvette.Yeah, yeah that's agood way of putting it.I mean, you could alsoget a Chevrolet SS,if you wanted to get somethinglike a newer version.Which they made upuntil like, last year.Yeah, 2017.But if he's thinkingabout getting this G8 GT,and it seems like it'sin pretty good shape.That's another thing.I think it seems like--I was doing a littlelooking around onlineand looking at what peoplesaid about the reliabilityof their car and stuff.And every owner that Ilooked at loved their car.So I think there'sa good chance you'regoing to buy it from someonewho loved their car, caredabout their car.So think aboutlooking at the owner,making sure the ownerseems pretty reputable.And if you get a good vibefrom that owner and the carlooks pretty good,I say go for it.Yeah.In parts availability, I knowPontiac doesn't exist anymore.And correct me if I'm--this was built in Australia.Right, yeah.But I mean, parts forHolden are still being made.Absolutely, yeah.You can still get parts for it.It's not an issue.It's not problem.Yeah, enjoy it.Enjoy it.Go get it.So Diveena has driven a 2015Ford Fusion Hybrid, movedfrom California to Colorado.\"I read your articleon all-weather tires,and I'm reallyinterested in them.\"Lucky we have ourtire guy here with us.\"After weeks ofsearching, I haven'tbeen able to find theNokian or the Celsius.Are there any other all-weathertires that you'd recommend?\"Yes.Yes.Well, there's a handfulof companies makingthese all-weather tires now.These are tires that have verygood snow traction and wintercapabilities.But they're not straight up snowtires, so you can leave themon year round, which isattractive to people that don'twant to store these and do thewinter changeover, blah, blah,blah.Mm.So the Nokian, obviously,was the originator.They came out withthis type of tire.Toyo followed notlong after, and now--The Toyo was the Celsius, right?Correct.Toyo Celsius, yeah.Not long after, though--Goodyear makes one now.Michelin makes one.Even Vrededstein makes one.Not a lot.That's only five, I guess.But this time ofthe year, you'regetting into that seasonaltime, so this stuffis starting to sell quick.My advice would be look online,big major retailers like TireRack, Discount Tire Direct.Even go to localplaces and ask them.They'll order you tires.Don't expect to gointo a dealer and themto have exactly what you wantright then and there that day.Yeah, these are prettynew and kind of--That, and there's hundredsand hundreds of tire sizes.There's so manydifferent vehicles,there's a milliondifferent sizes out there.They can't stock all these.They're not going tohave everything youwant when you walk in there.They're just not.In the past, I've bought tires.I've gone into a Sears andsaid, I want this tire.Order it for me.And a week later, I come back, Iskip the line, I walk right in,and it was a pleasant--And I mean, as faras the actual size,I mean, these are, I think,17s and 18s on the Ford FusionHybrid.Sometimes they don't-- yeah?I did a littlelooking online, and Iwas able to find a coupleof those different onesin both sizes.So--So what you mighthave to do is--You might have to order it.--order it.And then I mean, I've done it.I think we've all done it.We've all ordered it, and thenyou just go to a local shopto have them mounted.They put them on.Yep.And they put them on.And that might bethe way that youhave to do it with these tires.But overall, recommend them?Do you think they'll begood for living in Colorado?Yeah.No, it's a solid choice.They're very goodin the snow, and youcan leave them on year round.Very cool.All right, so I hope that helps.Vincent asks aboutthe Mazda CX-9.\"I've been thinkingabout buying a 2019,but I have concerns aboutCR's predicted reliabilityrating of less than average.I understand itmight be the casefor the previousgenerations when Mazdawas a joint venture with Ford.But the all new 2016 versionis Mazda's own vehicle.Why the predicted rating--why is it less than averagewhen it has been a prettyreliable vehicle basedon my online research?\"So a couple of things to fixthere, other than my reading.Well, yeah, I mean,so the first thingis that the predictedreliability that he'sbeen seeing on the CX-9 is onthe current generation, whichwas redesigned in 2016.It's not based ona previous CX-9.And the other thing is that ourpredicted reliability scoresget updated every year.So what was the case for 2018may not be the case for 2019.The 2019 reliabilitydata hasn't come out yet.And-- well, you were--Yeah, I actually justtalked to Anita Lam,who does our reliabilityscores for us.And she was mentioningthat it was justkind of a specific issuewith an older CX-9.And these carcompanies, regardlessof who it is, whensomething like that happens,they make changes to these cars.So for the 2019, we havereliability scores updated,coming out soon.Right.You might want to--Just wait a little bit.Yeah, wait and check.Yeah, and the otherthing is that it'simportant to understand whatthe predicted reliability is,which is that it's a forecastof what that new car might be--what it might doreliability-wise,based on data from ourannual auto survey.So if people don't knowthat, we're not justmaking these scores up.This is based on datafrom our members,from CR members thathave answered questionsand told people howtheir car performed,and that's wherethat data comes from.We don't just decide basedon our own test car whatthe reliability of the car is.That's based on datafrom CR members.So, Vincent, staytuned, essentially.Yeah, yeah.Ask us again in ournext questions episode.Of course, it's agreat driving vehicle.Yeah.That's the thing.Oh, we liked it.Yeah.Layne says, \"Howdy, CR.\"So must have seen myshirt, because it'sa little bit of a rodeo--I can see it.This is my first rodeo actually.\"We are a smallfamily of two and havebeen thinking about entering theluxury sports sedan segment.\"Mm.\"Top contenders are the newVolvo S60 T6, the Audi S4,and the BMW 340i.\"Mm-hm.Mm-hm.Layne.\"Would you recommend leasingor buying this caliber vehicle,taking into account most of itslife would be spent garaged?Thank you.\"I want to thank Layne forwanting a sport sedan.Yeah.Keeping it alive.Yeah.They're slowlytrickling away on us.Hopefully, Layne will spenda good portion of the timedriving the car, too, though,not just sitting in the garage.Good question.Exactly.Yeah, and especiallyin beautiful San Diego,there's never goingto be a time whenyou can't take the car out.So we got three cars here.Let's pick a car.I know that that wasn'tpart of the question,but we have to do that.Yeah, we got to start there.Yeah, you've got tostart with the car.340i for me.And these are kindof different animals.I mean, the S4 and the 340are on the sportier side.But I'll take the 340.It's rear wheeldrive, fun to drive.Yeah, I'm with Ryan on this.340i for me, becauseit's rear wheel drive.You can get it all wheeldrive if you need to.The S4 is only all wheel drive.340i you can get witha manual transmission.This is the lasttime you can do that.S4, you can't.Yeah.And the 340i, it's just a moreprecise, more fun to drive--It's sportier, I would--Sportier car.They both have great engines.One has a turbo charged V6.The other has a turbocharged inline 6.BMW's inline 6 is famousfor its smoothness.So long story, I'd go with 340i.As far as buying versusleasing, I did a little researchon that.And I mean, for acar like this, youcan sometimes get someincredible deals with a lease.They'll put some moneyon it, incentives on itto move these carsthat wouldn't otherwisebe on if you bought the car.So that's one goodthing about it.The other good thing aboutit is that some of these carsare pretty complex, andthings can go wrong with them.And if you're leasingit, chances are,it's going to be underwarranty the whole timethat you have it.And then once thingsstart to go wrong,it's somebody else's problem.Or you can buy it outif you love it that muchand hold on to it.So lease the 340i, Layne, right.Yes.That's what we're going with.That's what we're going with.OK, sticking with stick shifts,we have a question from Jose.\"I'm trying to get intodriving a stick shift.What car would yourecommend to learn on,and do you thinkit's a good ideato learn on a new carversus a used car?I'm considering a GTI, andI currently own a Jetta.\"So what did you both firstlearn to drive stick on?Go ahead, Mike.I actually learnedon a GTI of all--Did you?Yeah, I did, yeah.How was it?Well, my friend needed a new--What generation was it?It was an '01 with a VR6.And my friendneeded a new clutchby the time I was-- butby now, it's much better.I learned on a Volvo turbodiesel from the '80s.Oh, boy.So I learned todrive in that car,and I learned to drive a manualon that car, because learnboth things at the same time.And that was a veryeasy car to learn on,even though I wouldsay, first of all,you want to learn ona used car if you can,or someone else's car.But in this case,the turbo dieselhad so much low endtorque, you barelyneeded to give it any throttle.Yeah, going slow.You could basically just let outthe clutch, and you're going.The downside tothat is that whenI got into my uncle's Supra,I stalled it all the time,because it has a muchmore sensitive throttle.Right.So I would saylearn on a used car.Learn on your friend's car.Learn on your friend's car.If you learn on an easycar, like a turbo dieselor something likethat, it's goingto be easier at the beginning.But if you learnon a harder car,then you're probably going tobe a better driver in the end,because you're goingto get used to beingable to have the ability todrive many different typesof manual transmission cars.Yeah.Just jump in one.You'll figure it out.Yeah, it can be kindof hard to find one.I mean, they're hard tofind if it's a rental.They don't exist.I mean, I learned on an'87 BMW 325e actually.Cool.My dad handed itdown to me when Iwas learning how to drive and--Was that the car youlearned to drive on as well?--the car I learnedhow to drive on.OK.There was no stabilitycontrol, nothing.It was a hoot in thewinter, but that'show I learned to drive and--That's when you startedgetting sideways?A little bit.Yeah, so I mean,Jose, save the manuals.Yeah, I mean, the GTI, Imean, we think that's--VW has kind of abuttery, nice smooth--Yeah, that's actually areally nice car to learn on.Yeah, it is.It is.It's not bad.So that's great.And there are cars thatare better than others,like you said.But I mean, another way todo it is just buy the thing,and you have to get home.Yeah.Force yourself.That's one way to do it.Just throw yourself right in it.Yeah.All right, Brian says--oh, so we had a question fromsomeone who loved the Mikes,this guy hates the mics.\"I've noticed the progressionof mics you've used.I'll cut to the chase.The desk mics block your faces.Why do you continue with them?I love the show.\"I don't see whatyou're talking about.These things are--These things work.--completely necessary.You know what, I thinkour producer is tryingto block the facesof you and me,like trying to showoff Ryan over there.Might be somewhat helpful.Yeah, see.He doesn't wantto see our faces.Yeah.Those of you who are listeningto this in the car, audio--It's perfect for them.--nice visual gag for you.All right.Thanks, Brian.Lorena from Portland.I'm not sure, Oregon, Maine.Who knows.But Lorena's in the marketfor a new plug-in hybrid.\"I've honed in on the HondaClarity and the Kia OptimaPlug-In Hybrid.I'm torn, because theClarity has almost twicethe all electricrange, but it doesn'thave some of the nicer featureslike the panoramic sunroofand the vented seats.\"Oh, and this is aninteresting commute here.Right.\"I make a 90-mile commuteseveral times a month,but most of my drivingis under 8 miles a day.How much do you valuefeatures over range?\"And \"Are there any othercars that I've missed?\"So that's interesting.That's aninteresting-- 90 miles,you're going to wantto be comfortable.It's a good question, yeah.Yeah, and it'sfar enough where--I mean, at leastwhen you get there,you want to beable to plug it in.Otherwise, you're goingto get some real rangeanxiety on your way back.Oh, that's-- no, ifyou get an electric.I mean, these arecars with gas engines.Well, .Yeah, yeah.I'm sorry, straight up electric.Yeah, yeah.But I don't carefor the Clarity.I would do maybe a PriusPrime, to be honest with you.Yeah.I'm not a big fan ofthe Clarity either.I mean, one of the greatthings about the Clarityis that you can go,when we tested it,48 miles on electric range,which is pretty darn good.But mile 49 is prettydismal and obvious.Yeah, I mean, theengine's very loud.It's very raucous.The handling's kind of awkward.The steering's sluggish.It looks goofy.I mean, that's--I like the look of it.That's a personal opinion.I like the look.It looks like a Citroen Cx.Right.Well, you also--But yeah, I'm also strange.Exactly, exactly.But so, Lorena, if youlike this polo shirt,maybe you'd want to go witha Kia Optima Plug-In Hybrid.Or a Prius Prime.Yeah, or a Prius Prime.Yeah, I like the Prius Prime.Yeah, the Prius Prime--When I saw this question, Ialso thought, well, 90 miles, Imean, you can easilydo that on somethinglike an all electriccar like a Chevy Volt.Right.The Chevy Volt'sreally fun to drive.The downside is the rideis kind of stiff, and--The seats are a little--Yeah.90 miles in those seatsprobably wouldn't be great.But that is a thought.If you've got an allelectric, even if it couldn'tgo the huge range of theVolt, if you could plug itin at work, when youdo that 90-mile day,you could still get back home.Yeah.Yeah.That's another thought.So basically skipthe Clarity, but--Yeah, I would skip that.But yeah, try the Prius Prime.Try the Prius Prime.Yeah.All right, we got somemore questions here.We have one from Jordan,who asks, \"Why does itseem like European vehiclesget better mileage comparedto their American counterparts?Do they have adifferent way that theycalculate their scores?\"Lightning round.Yes.It's the .You have to move ontothe next question.Well, to be to befair, sometimes thereare cars with morefuel saving features,three-cylinder engines, notas powerful smaller engines.But they also do testdifferently, so that's why.It's comparing apples topommes, melanzanas to apples.Is that apple?I don't know, either way.David--Way over my head here.Sorry.David says, \"You've reviewed--\"oh, this is a good question.I like this one.David B, good question.\"You've reviewed the Toyota8-speed automatic transmissionin the Sienna, Highlander,Camry, and most recently,in the Avalon,where you assignedit a five out of five ratingfor its smooth performance.You weren't impressed with thistransmission in the Sienna,Highlander, or Camry.Has Toyota, in youropinion, finallygotten their act together?\"David is trying to catch us up.But I think we're--We're going to have tocatch David on something.Yeah.David's wrong about something,which is the Avalon that wetested is actually a hybrid.So it has a CVT, a ContinuouslyVariable Transmission.So it does not have that8-speed automatic transmission.But we did drive--We rented an Avalon with theV6 and the 8-speed automaticfrom Toyota.And what's important tonote is that while wecan't give a number toits transmission scoreyet, because wehaven't tested it yet,we did find that itactually worked quite well.But Toyota does differenttransmission calibrationsfor the Toyota Avalonand the Lexus ES 350.Which also, thisis the same, yeah.That's common in allthe manufacturers.I mean, they might usethe same transmission,but it's going to be differentin other ..Exactly.And it's also importantto note that therewas a Technical ServiceBulletin, a TSB,for the 2017 Toyota Siennaand Toyota Highlander.We had those two cars here.We tested them.We thought there wasa little bit of issueswith the transmission.It let the car rev out muchhigher than seemed natural.And so we brought the cars in.There's a fix that Toyota cando to make the transmissionwork a little better.So if you have a car and it'snot a Sienna or a Highlander--It's shifting rough.--especially if it was the earlybuilds of those, Toyota can--They'll fix it.Toyota has a fix for that.Yeah, software update,just like your phone.Yep.Yeah, great.Great question, Dave.We like questionslike that, oneswhere Mike gets to show off.Well, ones where we canhelp someone realize that--Your life can be better.--not that they'rewrong, but that justthey were confused aboutwhat transmission it had.And it's very important to notethat the continuously variabletransmission iscompletely differentthan an 8-speed automatic.So our last question.We only have time for one more.But we promise infuture episodes,if this next person--if you're not Chris R,we'll get to yourquestion another time.Chris R asks, \"TheAir Force is moving mefrom San Diego, Californiato Cheyenne, Wyoming.Besides buying--\" We hadsomebody else from San Diego.Wave to that personas you're leaving,driving around in the 340.\"Besides buying a jacket,we're also looking at cars.I have a 2016 KiaForte 5, but my wifeis concerned about badweather performance.We foster dogs and havetwo teenagers in the house.I'm looking for afun driving vehiclethat's good in bad weatherand has plenty of space.Any suggestions?\"Well, the Forte 5 is prettytight for four peopleand a dog.So you don't have to go to anybig SUVs here, I don't think.No.So yeah, and I mean, youcould make the Forte workwith some snow tiresand a little bitof practice driving in the snow.But I mean, because theForte's not that big,I would say a MazdaCX-5 is awesome.It's fun to drive.I mean, that's my go-tofor a lot of my friends.They're always askingfor their wives,their girlfriends, like,little SUV, all wheel drive,what do you think?And the CX-5 is fun to drive.It's good looking.Your friends don'task for themselves?No.No?They know betterthan to ask you?Yeah, they drive trucks.It's New England.OK.What about you?So first of all, Chris,thank you for your service.But when I saw that, and I sawtwo teenagers, fostering dogs,I thought immediately, SUV, justbecause, the taller roof, the--The ground clearance too.Wyoming, I've been out there,and you can get some serious--Yeah.Yeah.So I kind of was in Ryan'sboat there with the CX-5,and I also thought Mazda CX-9,because we are talking aboutthe--he did say he wantsa lot of space.Right.So maybe CX-9.Again, there have been somereliability issues with that.Mm-hm.And then I kind of hada wildcard, which was--Ooh.Ooh.--a used BMW 5Series Gran Turismo.Huh.You know that car?It's got the hatch back.Yeah, yeah, so thedog would have to be--it'd have to be one of thoseones with the slanted nose--No----so it could go up to the--There's actually quite abit of room back there.The schnauzers.There's actually quite abit of room back there.Yeah?That is an ugly car, though.Yeah.It is an ugly car,but it's fun to drive.That is a wildcard.You can get it all wheel drive.You can probably getit cheap, because it'sabout as ugly as that shirt.Exactly, yeah.Well, now you're being hurtful.Aw, shucks.My choice is a Subaru.Big surprise, huh?Yeah, big surprise..Yeah, no, we've gottwo choices, let's say.The Crosstrek iskind of a little moreof the size of theKia Forte, but ithas that ground clearance, andit's got the all wheel drive.Or you could go upto the Forester.And the nice thing aboutthe Forester, that thinghas incredible visibility.Those windows, it's likeyou're driving in a greenhouse.Yeah.And when you're out--it's beautiful out in Wyoming.I don't know if you've everbeen out-- it's gorgeous.You want to be able tosee out the windows.It's like a postcard, so youwant to be able to see out.Yeah, that's true.Good point.It's true.Yeah.So get that.And you can look for themoose that are crossing,make sure you don't--visibility, it's important.Cool.So, Chris, you got abunch of suggestions.I hope we didn'tconfuse you any more.If you have a question forus, TalkingCars@icloud.com.If you don't want to listento me stumble through readingthese, send a video.You'll be as famousas we are, and youcan tell your friends you'reon the coolest podcast youcan get.So thanks forwatching, listening.TalkingCars@icloud.com.We'll see you soon.\n"