**The Reality of Making Money on YouTube**

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**How YouTube Monetization Works**

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**The Cost of Living in Vancouver**

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**A Straw Poll with Surprising Results**

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**The Reality of Making Forts and Other Creations**

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**The Afterparty**

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because there are no words for how disatisfied we are there we go with how Ubisoft is treating PC Gamers disent I'm full of disent um they're full of disent their dis intentions are discombobulating my dentry and taking real words we just got dissed surrounding them with fake ones um and EA might not suck as much anymore but they haven't made that an actionable item yet so haven't made an what are you even talking about they haven't done anything with it they're just like yeah they're like they're doing they're pulling the Microsoft thing they're pulling the Microsoft thing we're going to support PC gaming sometime but EA's never actually gone that far before so this is still a step in the right direction that's true usually they're just like screw you guys at least they're paying lip service to the PC gaming Community this is true this is true T-Mobile test drive ripped off a line of te tips ideas and we'll be allowing people to something something tell you later um almost went a little bit too far and we now have a new beta for the front page of lines.com which you can check out it's sort of badass it's like sort of the best thing ever it was designed by me coded by me and all the Articles were written by me the lies just got bigger and bigger didn't if catman's watching he's just going to be like what are you kidding me you mean that guy that was just constantly like I don't like it make it go away he gets the credit for everything really no and that my friend is how Corporate America Works kind of yeah okay any no but seriously huge big UPS to Catman for being a cat and a man it's like anyway we'll talk more about that later but for now intro time this thing works a little bit differently this week so if I bung it up don't be surprised so they just sit there and then check this out I I swear I'm going to like hit edel because look at see how the background changes like way to go guy winner anyway the point is that our first sponsor today is Squarespace get 10% off with offer code Linus and stay tuned because later on in this very video we will be giving away a year worth of Squarespace service bam and the twitch chat just brought down and the twitch chat just brought here to go guys also sponsoring the event this week are all the sponsors of Highlander so this is Aus with their Rog series notebooks Intel with their core i7 high performance CPUs and Corsair makers of the ever popular well we can't call it popular if it doesn't really exist yet but it's going to be popular it can be popular if it doesn't exist k70 RGB keyboards yeah I've never seen actual physical proof that Justin Bieber exists but he's popular and he's popular well depending who you ask and finally we have an upcoming live stream it's going to be an ask the expert live stream it's coming next week you guys are going to want to tune into that to get some pretty sweet behindth scenes details about how their Devil's Canyon CPUs came to be and a hint word for the word to the wise uh we may or may not be giving away a couple of Devil's Canyon CPUs on a for mention stream are you genuinely like surprised or are you doing like the good co-host this guy is crazy I actually I okay that's amazing you guys should be interested in what he's saying oh my God one I didn't know this was happening until like five minutes ago when you were like oh my God where's the image and I was like apparently we need an image for this thing which may or may not be a thing and then now we're giving away processors on it that's right that's cool like I this is legitimate like I actually had literally no idea we make snap decisions speaking of making SN you giving away mine your what the the ones that I've been testing with okay cool yeah don't worry it's all good I like those ones we got new we got new ones okay so I have the wrong document up still so you're on point oh no here we go all right so the headline this week all the fail Ubisoft could you have shot yourselves in the foot any better if you tried do you want to do you want to go through this while I I I'll manage what they're looking at on my screen here okay sure sure I I don't I don't understand how people haven't figured it out yet that one like don't lie to PC Gamers gamers in general but don't lie to PC Gamers they're gonna like Gabe has a quote like really really good quote about like yeah don't lie to the internet because they'll figure it out they'll plaster it everywhere and they'll never ever forget about it and it's just like what are you doing so so basically it all started on a misty day fog covered day with great headlight effects back in 201 2012 all all the Fanboys were excited about Watch Dogs with its amazing graphical Fidelity being showcased on the PC they they they dreamt of nights in future days when they could spend time night and Future Days you can listen to yourself when they spend time reacting to the light effects of lens flare of AFF mentioned Watchdogs and the depth of field and then Watchdogs launched here in 2014 total poo well total poo is unfair it looked like but what we can say is that it didn't look as good as Far Cry 3 which which is a Ubisoft title and old and not new so talk about this neoaf article that I've had sitting on my screen for a bit here what is this okay so two different modders CAD zate 24 and the worse um I'm more familiar with the the worse have released mods which unlock original Graphics effects to do this they they had to it's a lot harder than I'm going to explain right now but effectively they just turned things on they had to find them which was extremely difficult they had to gain access to them which was extremely difficult and all that kind of stuff but essentially it's already there they just had to turn it on which is fantastically amazing and horrible at the same time uh it it turns on tons and tons of different effects like uh St St I I love how Ubisoft I'm going to go into UB response Ubisoft response is classic so this is really long but it goes the dev team is completely dedicated to getting the most out of each platform so the notion that we you haven't you haven't talked about the stuff yet hold but I want to I want to talk show this and then show the improvements because they contradict themselves a little bit stressing me out okay so we want to get the most out of each platform whatever the notion that we would actively downgrade quality is contrary to everything we've set out to achieve we test and optimize our games for each platform on which they released strivings for the best quality POS possible I'm mixing this up a little bit the PC version does indeed contain some old unused render settings that were deactivated for V variety of reasons including possible impacts on visual Fidelity stability performance and overall gameplay then it goes on to some long stuff after that but I just wanted to show the like we deactivated it because of stability and stuff in the patch notes for the mods and in a lot of the reports that I've been reading from people that have tried these mods also known as pretty much all of them it's it runs smoother it's faster it's just as or more stable and looks way better because they've done things like uh allowing E3 2012 Bloom which is a setting ridiculous um performance improvements enabled headlight Shadows LED changes reflection changes added three new camera changes like closer normal further to give credit where credit is due this is total biscuits 25 minute rant on how ridiculous this is where he figures the only two conclusions uh for why Ubisoft might have turned off all of these settings cuz he's sitting here playing the game with everything turned on getting about the same performance that he was without all this stuff turned on when the theory you know in your mind is that more graphical Fidelity is supposed to make the game Run worse unless they're intentionally handicapping it so he comes up with two conclusions number one is gross incompetence and number two is that they're liars and those are basically the only ones that I can come up with too so anyway keep I'm just going to let them watch Total biscuit play this game cuz he's a good guy and this is a this is a pretty good video about how stupid this whole situation is yeah so they added all that stuff they also added stuff like lens flare lighting changes civilian density tons of stuff and there's even more stuff coming on the way that they're planning to improve and because they've broken into it this far I expect actual full mods to come out at some point which aren't just turning things on which like this is still Absolut I'm not I'm not trying to downgrade what Cad zate and the worse are doing I'm just saying uh it could be different from there um then people started freaking out because there was a softpedia article with a quote from Ubisoft talking about Far Cry 4 saying that Far Cry 4 on PC at maximum settings will look the same as it does on consoles so and their claim here so their their BS claim is oh yeah yeah well we we deved it on the PC and then we just we just like plugged that code into the the the current gen new consoles and it like ran so amazing that everyone's going to have the best experience regardless of what is that as stunning as next gen console games are starting to look no wait no that's Forbes right so even out of the box even day one we just stuck the code on the new consoles and we were able to dial it all the way up so as a console player you're already getting by far the best version we can ship can ship also known as they went through and scrubbed their Co this time took out everything that mentioned anything about PC turned like instead of just turning settings off completely removed them and then went yeah that's what you're getting so to make matters worse I don't know if this is actually in your notes but the word on the street is that the Watchdog performance patch that was supposed to come at the beginning of this month uh is going to disable the hack no I had never heard of that yeah really so basically Ubisoft just keeps on digging is that is that actually like a really good source that that's for I'm going to have to double check I'll tell you what I will double check right now um but okay I can go into the rest of what ubisoft's response was um so modders are usually creative and passionate players and while we appreciate their enthusiasm the mod in question which uses those old settings subjectively enhances the game's visual Fidelity in certain situations but also can have various negative impacts never seen any of those there's a little bit of headlight flicker that total biscuit noticed oh no he he's even said it wasn't a big deal and yeah yeah if there's someone who's going to criticize like graphical Fidelity it's going to be total biscuit it'll be total biscuit so there's that um those could range from uh performance issues nope uh to difficulty in reading the environment nope uh to potentially making the game less enjoyable or even unstable nope and no no so nothing that they've claimed has actually been like perceived by anyone so what they're trying to save people from doesn't exist and that's frustrating then jumping over to the Far Cry 4 thing apparently the softpedia article um is is not a very good article because of misquoting and other kind of stuff like that so if you ignore that the Ubisoft Montreal Creator that's that's when they start saying like oh we just dialed everything up and it looked amazing um um that makes me not necessarily think that the softpedia article was even necessarily A misquote I think it was just in the way that they used that I guess that's technically misquoting but it's like it's it's still the truth just because they quoted it kind of in a weird way doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong because they are there's no way you're just like oh yeah we deved everything on PC didn't taste anything on consoles ever and then plugged it in and it just everything went to Max that's not that's not how that works I got to wonder how the devs feel you know the ones that actually care about delivering the best product that they possibly can that like group of Hardcore guys which are actually super badass and made all the settings and stuff for Watch Dogs and then just had them all turned off yeah that's got to suck and you got to you got to wonder and they're probably under some sort of agreement so they can't say you got to wonder how intentionally gimped the performance is then if they were able to enable all that stuff and have it run basically the same um I just I just yeah I don't know I've had people message me telling me that we shouldn't do benchmarking videos early well that's the only way to get views it's one of those things where should you review a game early or should you wait till the first patch well if you review the game right out of the gate then people will watch your video and if you review after the first patch you might have a better gaming experience but but at the same time ship your game properly yeah like release your game so that it's playable if if we if if we review performance of your game right out of the gate that'll give people the benefit when your game performs really well at out right out of the gate how it should of having a very good performance review from us okay here we go so the mod still works you just have to unpack the files and then repack them with the new patch. datat okay so the worst mod still works but the patch does disable it and also apparently doesn't fix the stuttering issue while driving so thanks guys you just made it slightly more annoying for no reason yay luckily that's still way easier than modding things like it used to be so I don't know that's yeah yeah I guess this makes the moding community's job in general easier like imagine how quickly they could do those GTA mods if the developer just did all the work and someone just had to dig around in the turn it on it's kind of like how overclocking has gotten so much easier over the last few years you just press the OC button it's going to be like just press the like mod button oh yeah these are the PC settings we didn't turn on there you go they should just be on the launcher there should be like a this is made for PC but if you actually want to play it as if you own a PC make sure you click this button before you load the game it's just like Okay click thanks fantastic so yeah everyone hates Ubie and then there's a bunch of stuff that's been going around that didn't get coted up here for some reason but I still have it down in the bottom uh where's that TW Twitter thing ubby Tessa oh this is epic okay hold on let me let me bring this up because I mean their their PR department in their defense I can't imagine that they know what to do or what to say at this point but this wasn't it yeah so I I was worried that it was edited and then I noticed the picture was different so I freaked out a little bit but it looks like it's the same okay so here's a tweet from Below in a tweet a couple months ago you said watch Do's Graphics were not downgraded do you still hold this to be true I recall replying saying that the game was not downgraded I still stick to that yes wow yikes it's like yeah Tessa this is from Ryan Tessa you might want to put your uh foot in your mouth here I don't think that that's actually what putting your foot in your mouth means Ryan you did very well though um but basically you guys are all over the front page of Reddit I don't envy your PR team right now I'm surprised they didn't get them to turn it off to be H I'm surprised that they issued a statement at all I'm surprised that they didn't just wait quietly for this to be swept under the rug where the hardcores were going to remember it and mostly people would forget unfortunately they've added so much to the fuel to the fire that again I'm going to bring up total biscuit uh but check this out WTF is Watchdogs so the Watchdogs review 850,000 views from 3 weeks ago the was watchdogs on PC handicapped on purpose video from 3 days ago 520,000 views they are letting this spin out of control and they are adding fuel to the fire by denying it publicly instead of just addressing it and promising to the community to issue an official patch that turns everything back on there is no way to fix this at this point other than shut up and that doesn't really fix it because lots of people will still be mad or go just go fullon look our bad we're sorry which you know what that probably would have worked that would have definitely honestly The Gaming Community like if you if you shake their hand and Pat them on the back a little bit they're usually cool yeah they'll get super pissed and they will literally try to murder you but if you're like be friendsit there's been attempts well okay um there's there's this quote by Sebastian viard I hope I'm saying that correctly Watch Dogs can use three plus G of RAM on N NG consoles for graphics your PC GPU needs enough vram for Ultra options due to the lack of unified memory who is this Sebastian vard oh excellent it's like okay then where's the I don't know exactly where it is but I just wanted to bring up uh the there it is G in okay can you show me where that is cuz it's not actually helpful for you to bring things up on your screen no it's here that's when I'm highlighting it okay there we go so here's the here's the quote from gay Ben here's a little quote that everyone in the gaming industry needs to remember yeah don't ever ever try to lie to the internet because they will catch you they will deconstruct your spin they will remember everything you say for eternity it's like yeah yeah they will so changing gears um EA has actually done a couple of things this week that are looking pretty positive so the original poster online tech tips.com is RI or Rafi or Rafi or anyway um and EA says they have plans for how they intend to change the way they make games so the original article here is from pcgamer.com and this is right from the CEO although based on some of Ubisoft CEO's statements about the whole Watch Dogs Far Cry 4 nonsense um I don't know does does a CEO have more credibility than a PR I don't know is he just glorified PR hard to say so last year EA was voted worst company in America I think that was wasn't that two years ago anyway the point is yeah it's happened a couple of times so CEO Andrew Wilson says the new mandate at EA is to ensure its games are functional and fun at a much earlier stage in the process than it has in the past they want to be more rigorous about ensuring quality control throughout the process and they want to be willing to delay A Game's launch when it's necessary we have now said that there is no alternative if the build is not playable you have to push the schedule until it's playable again that's great um another an example of this sort of new approach is the beta for the battlefield hard for Battlefield Hardline that went live earlier this month and they're saying that they want to do earlier betas to get real play testing done at an earlier point in the process so that when they game does actually ship they are able to deliver a much more polished experience the whole he he says the Hollywood Blockbuster mentality of keep all the information to yourself is not something that makes sense in today's world we can't keep a secret anyway so we may as well just start talking about it there are disadvantages to this approach you look at some of the challenges that Chris Roberts's team has had with Star Citizen where the kimono is open they're like yeah baby here's all the bugs that we're working on in pre Alpha you want to see this crap you want to see this terrible code you want to see this unoptimized garbage and you know that turns into uncomfortable stories where they'll they'll give us these internal Milestones like yeah we really want to have it working for this date and that date comes and goes and it's gone it's not there yet but then because of that the flak is not as bad that's right just be honest with people I had this conversation with another YouTuber a little while ago where they made some comment about you know whether or not you know sponsorships were okay from a particular company and I basically said look I wear my sponsorships on my sleeve because the way that I see it if I am upfront with my community about who's giving me money and for what and what we're saying then there's nothing to hide if everything I tell you guys is the truth and what we're doing and everything we're doing is completely above it's up to the viewer to decide how they feel about that whereas if I were to try to conceal in some way the sponsorships that we have on this show that makes me a lot more uncomfortable where if I didn't feel like I was doing something wrong I shouldn't have to hide it and anyway so that's sort of that's my my take for my personal business on the whole honesty is the best policy thing because if I lied to you guys if I said um Asus doesn't have a relationship with us where they sponsor things that we do and that involves an exchange of money you guys are going to dig it up at some point yeah pointing at our powered by Theus g750 JZ which they're not even you guys are going to dig it up at some point and you're going to throw it back in my face and you're right to do that period you're right to do that and I think the timing for this is kind of awesome because ubisoft's trying to kind of like shove some things under the rug and ignoring other things and all the kind of stuff and he's like we're going to talk to you guys now good it's do it I don't know yeah I mean there's no guarantees I mean this is cool um they've added origin game time so this is another kind of new thing that they're doing I think they're what are they offering two full days of Titanfall for free on PC I mean I I suspect this as much of a desperation tactic to resurrect Titanfall as anything else but at least it's the right kind of desperation tactic at least they're not you know trying to like that whole Fiasco with Microsoft paying game streamers to use the Xbox one but then not allowing them to talk about it again it all comes down to the same thing be honest about your marketing attempts be upfront hey we need people we need people to play Titanfall we want to sell this game here try it you know you know here's the first this honestly it's a good way to do it and some people have made parallels to the free weekend thing on Steam and like that's fine I like that program EA should have taken that I hope Ubisoft does as well copying valve is not a bad business Tech no it's not they're doing a lot of things correctly and actually you play please God start working on copying valve you're bad anyways um this is this is actually a really good thing if I didn't own Titanfall I would have actually probably downloaded it and tried to play it that's one thing too is being a big AAA we sell games for very expensive prices developer having it so that you can try these things for free a lot of times is helpful one thing I see with free weekends on Steam a lot of the time is that it's an old game Y and it's like 80% off plus a free weekend so you can try it and go oh okay I might as well finish this campaign for $2 and then you buy it this is kind of different because it's Titanfall it's a big fairly new game it's a relatively recent game it's not a $9.99 special in you know the summer sale and like it it happens you you get these big games and free weekends and stuff too I'm just I'm just saying not not all that often so I I I don't know I think it's I think it's great I mean I think it's I I I don't know that we should applaud it too much because it's not so much a step forward as it is retracing the old steps of remember when we used to have demos for games yeah yeah yeah do you know how many times I played the Warcraft 2 demo campaign and like didn't that come in like PC Gamer or something it was so exciting because the the demo had you not be able to build Knights or ogres but you had to fight one in the final battle partway through one of the levels and you were like oh those are cool I want to make those go buy the game back when they understood demos it's cool I remember I I used to try and get the X original Xbox I almost just said Xbox One original Xbox magazines when I had one of those and like you'd get the the demo disc for like Mortal Kombat or the demo disc for whatever and it was like oh this is so cool I have one level of Mortal Kombat with like four characters yeah let's fight for days this is all we have some demos were too good the uh the Halo 1 demo allowed you to play Blood G multiplayer oh my God which is basically the only map anyone ever needed the whole game okay that's cool when to hold something back that map probably shouldn't have done that although you know whatever if it turns into full sales yeah I guess there's that yeah my my dad surprised us with our box and Halo so I never needed the demo disc luckily that was cool your dad's kind of a badass sometimes he is okay so should we talk about the T-Mobile yeah let's move right into T-Mobile test drive so this byon ryuk run rukun yeah oh thank you that's probably it okay so the original article is from rutters.com so we're going to go ahead and pop that open on the page here but basically the big headline here is the one week Network test drive where they're letting anyone and their dog actually not their dog it has to be one per household ha see how I unless the one goes to their dog unless the one goes to the dog a pretty pretty useless demo trial but that would be kind of awesome like I like Bol style like dog with like Google Glass and like what if you what if you got like a headset thing for your dog that had mobile connectivity then you could send it commands through there so you could be like come to the living room and if you teach it like what different rooms names are if you create that game and then you have a demo of it I will play the demo and promptly not buy the game dog Commander dog Commander 2014 edition you know you just know the goat simulator guys are working on this already dog Commander dog Commander real life 2014 edition upstairs DLC 1499 so you can try it for a week and unless you damage the phone this is with an iPhone 5S unless you damage the phone or you what's the other one right fail to return it within the week you will not be charged anything that's pretty freaking cool but the big one to me I just signed up for Google Play music so the the $10 a month all you can eat service which is just it's amazing cuz combined with the Sono system that I just set up um I can just be like I get home and I'm like kids music play in the living room and my son dances and like it's it's the cutest thing ever that's pretty cool it's awesome anyway so T-Mobile is now allowing on popular streaming services like Spotify and Pandora you to stream music to your phone without that counting towards your data plan how much do I wish that T-Mobile was in Canada we say this so much but like seriously please please I'm I'm I'm not even on contract right now I just can't pick another vendor because they're all horrible so like you know there's a there's another new sponsor we have Ting but there they're not in Canada either know I know but they're they're pretty cool too because I know they are everything's alart and anyway you guys are going to hear about it in our upcoming Devil's Canyon video Nick asked me before I knew that they were coming on a sponsor he's like what do you think about Ting so I went on this like little mini rant about how they're like they're I think they're even a Canadian company they're hosted over like Toronto or something our rep is based in Toronto yeah and then but they're not in Canada and I like I I went through all this stuff and then he's like oh well that's good cuz they're sporing us now and I was like oh well okay cool I'm done with that I guess put them on the W show they're not even sponsoring the W show we're just giving them a spot because why not anyway T-Mobile's whole thing is if you try it we think you're going to love it um they've also got that thing where they're incentivizing people to break their contracts by helping pay for that um and they're proud of the fact apparently that t- mobile customers use 69% more data than Verizon customers and 100% more than AT&T customers it's already cut you off do you remember devil zzz yeah yeah of course he posts all the time even on like ncx forums and stuff about physics yeah the physics guy know it's his son's Payton's birthday okay I just wanted to I had to happy physx to your son pton okay that's it keep moving speaking of physx originally posted by speed rookie on the Forum the original article is from Tom's Hardware the word on the street is nvidia's gtx8 80 and 880 Ti are to be cheaper than the 780 Ti with toms's uh by line or whatever the sub headline whatever the Bold thing not all rumors should be believed and this is probably a prime example and yeah this stems from like some random Forum post somewhere and it's just like and it's been making the rounds and I'm going to back up Tom's here because whenever the rumors start flying about how much will Nvidia or amd's new Gra card cost will it be cheaper oh my God it's going to be cheaper will it be more will Intel's new CPU be cheaper will it be more the answer is no the answer is just no because it's going to be the same it's always the same every time the one exception was GTX 68 GTX 680 they blindsided us a little bit in a couple of ways number one was that we got a 256bit chip and they called it a high-end GPU number two was that it was $100 cheaper than an 80 class GPU tends to be so we want is um the the rumors are that the 880 and 880 Ti will be cheaper to manufacture than their predecessor PR predecessors um this much could be true especially if the rumor that they'll have a 256-bit memory interface are true Al at the same time it might be a cheaper to manufacturer but that doesn't necessarily mean that the price is going to come down as they say here okay yeah what I'm expecting is that these cards might be um you know an improvement in performance and design so the of course they're expected to be based on the Maxwell architecture so what I would expect based on what we saw with our first Maxwell gpus so the 750 Ti is that we're going to see dramatic improvements in power consumption we're going to see potentially great overclockability we're going to see um better IPC so we might get similar performance to the last generation flagships but at a lower cost with a narrower memory interface and better costs and if miners were still having a crazy Heyday they might be really interested because the 750 Ti was a very interesting mining card yeah it was but that's kind of mining's kind of yeah you can pick up 290s for like what 250 bucks on eBay now 200 250 bucks like sometimes with water block they just like yeah take it oh okay yeah don't worry about it bro anyway these are expected to start arriving sort of end of 2014 beginning of 2015 but this is all rumors if we knew anything concrete we wouldn't be able to say it anyway yep speaking of things that we know that are concrete this is happening okay I thought you were doing this why does it look like that I swear I will murder someone that's a lower third yeah it's a lower third but it's like broken and and it's not transparent I don't think unless ah yes okay well I'm going to fix this and then the colors we look horrible yeah I don't remember what the things are I think it's like hello everyone it's 1970 let's just do like oh yes what a Hulk bump up that saturation hold on hold on I got this i got this W because that that my friends is how crazy awesome this event is going to be this is the first major collaboration why do you keep showing off that see thing look how pink it is yes you love Firefox we get it actually I'm getting a littleit frustrated with me too it's been crashing a lot for me like a lot and there's been other issues anyway so um that logs me out of our Forum all the time to stop there's a lot of things going on actually all right so anyway Highlanders the first major collaboration between Linus Tech tips and Tech Syndicate we will be climbing Mount Elbert in Colorado sometime next week you guys will get content you're going to get Vlogs you're going to get an official video it's going to be fantastic I will be there Logan will be there Kane will be there Luke will be there edel will be there Brandon will be there Albert of former Tiger Direct affiliation with Logan will be there their new guy Jimmy will be there Paul from New Egg will be there Kyle from New Egg will be there and Austin Evans hey hey guys we'll be there I'm on a mountain freaking everyone hey guys I'm on a mountain I love it oh he's such a good guy so it's going to be freaking awesome you guys need to be excite it's going to be awesome I want to give a big shout out to our sponsors though we couldn't do this event without auss Intel and Corsair they are going to be providing the sweet gaming machines that we are going to be using to have the world's highest elevation terrestrial land party they are providing the RGB keyboards that we are going to be using to play games on a forementioned notebooks and of course the whole thing has inel inside because that's how this whole thing works without the CPU not a whole lot happens all right moving on to our next sponsor this everyone to tweet Austin with hey guys I'm on a mountain hey guys I'm on a mountain I just want to see what he does oh I love it okay so this is kind of fun I want you guys to do something with me here and that is I I get a lot of feedback from people who like Squarespace okay so we'll do a quick run through Squarespace fast easy way to build a beautiful website it's inexpensive their service is 247 basically they're a great supporter of us and what we do and we love them lusm medag group.com runs on Squarespace and since we set it up we literally haven't touched it I'm I'm working on building my own with no communication to Squarespace that it's actually me really yeah it's going great so far okay that's all I really have for you I haven't done a ton on it um but everything that I've done is awesome I hope I can I haven't tried to get down to like bare code yet but I'm hoping I can at some point because there's a few things I want to edit that are a little bit more specific so we get a lot of feedback from our viewers that hey lonus thanks for the Squarespace thing it's absolutely fantastic but what I want you guys to do is I want you to use # Linus Squarespace and I want you to actually tweet your 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Linus Squarespace so you guys want to go ahead and do that and in the meantime I'd love for hey look at this already websites I created a free website with Squarespace so we've got uh oh no I don't think we have any new ones so in the meantime we're going to move on to our ask the expert Liv stream which is really no E3 was last time okay well whatever ask the expert live stream it's coming next week we are going to have one of the uh let me see actually I can't quite you know what I'm just going to bring up the Forum thread because I think that'll work better here this is going to be pretty cool we did this a little while ago with one of their uh one of their technical engineer guys on the SSD side when they launched the 730 and I don't know if you guys tuned into that live stream but it was really really good we got a ton of insight into things like like this guy worked with the team that launched the original extreme Edition and he was talking about that and just the all these 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that you don't want to tell your parents about cuz they'd be like stop hanging out with bad people but love them cuz they're awesome but they they do do those bad look at that we have at least one Squarespace site to show you guys so this kind of shows you how you can use their templates to create something that's attractive looking without spending a whole ton of time on it so here they're using it as a showcase for their videos but you can do a Blog you can make a store you can what are you even doing or is that too early to I honestly I just wanted to grab the URL lucy.com okay so I'm just going to put it somewhere so it doesn't look like I'm just camping it and so I'm just going to make my own random thing is it going to be uh grad pictures of you cuz I I heard a rumor that those are floating around no it won't be grad pictures of me did I tell you about that I must have told you are now now people are going to look why did you do this you're a jerk and that was ever not not a known quantity to you because this is cuz I teab bagged Yoshi wasn't it all right let's move on to and yes by the way let's move on to the big lonus Tech tips related news so we're not even going to share the screen with this news because it is way too badass welcome to the new Linus Tech tips.com do you want to do you want to walk can't I I need a browser that works for a second are you in Firefox look at I don't know what happened to this computer that was like pretty broken oh okay is oh is it a zoom thing no there's an ad takeover oh it's it was on Twitter and stuff I was wondering if Twitter started pushing ads to people brilliant um apparently okay well whatever look look on my screen just walk okay so there's not all functionality is already in here yet yeah it says beta yeah throwing that out there so I'm going to go through how things are kind of supposed to work so this main big slider where you guys see GPU miners crash of 2014 and other things constantly rotates you can 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then this feature is one that Luke told me was impossible but then it turned out that if I hit him hard enough um it's actually can work really well it's like this this cascading layer of hitting it's like you hit me and then I flop forward and just go and hit Catman and then things happen so basically trending topics is a great place to check out whatever's a hot discussion on the Forum right now so we've got AMD teasing something we've got uh a troubleshooting thing we've got Ubisoft talking about the whole hidden Graphics thing we have the summer sale and we've got um just a discussion about what would you guys like to become standard in PC Hardware so the algorithm behind this is surprisingly simple but um it's surprisingly simple but I think it does a great job of bringing some really cool feature topics up to the front you just okay we're good um then there's featured builds at the bottom I know we've been somewhat semi ignoring build logs of the thing for a little while so we're putting it on the front page of Linus detective.com yeah and then we we are doing the monthly thing um yeah yeah it's be next week I know it's like super crazy late but we're still gonna make it this month and then we'll be good to go in the future it's gone right now because it doesn't work okay I'll explain it okay so basically guys over here you just go to the latest news our shows is a drop down that has these broken Graphics we're going to add Channel super fun we're going to fix those icons all that kind of stuff uh this is the main the page will this is the main articles page where you can just view whatever were the most recent articles um there's also another view here for trending topics we're going to add another thing that's maybe a further decay of the most recent topics but that is text so that it can be a little bit more dense and then we are going this community link takes you to The Forum and we are going to add a little Cog right here that will change your default to whichever you prefer lusch tips.com homepage or the Forum main page so if you are are one of the Forum guys and don't want to see this ever and don't care about it you don't have to yeah we're all about choice we think it's great we think it's a really cool way to interact with what's going on on the Forum but if you totally disagree that's cool man don't worry about it or so that that Cog wheel will be changeable somewhere else on the Forum as well so if you do it once it's not like you can never go back we're going to work on a few things like we've had some comments about navigating between the two can be a little bit confusing so we're going to work on a few things like that like it's it's definitely beta there's definitely still a bunch of things to do but I'm going to try and keep the Articles at least pretty recent for now while we're still working on things so it's usable um and then once we go Fully live the Articles should be rolling because that's going to be the main thing and at some point we're going to be uh we're going to be working with the community to have the Articles actually be whatever the community pick so we're going to take some whether they're appointed or whether they're however it works we're going to take some our top contributors and have them start being able to basically push their articles to the front page yeah I have a few few people that I kind of think will already be on top of that but what we'll we'll see once that actually starts becoming so very much by the community for the community uh we think it's really cool we hope that you guys do too and uh there you go that's what we've been this has been in the works for like 8 months really long time long time seen a lot of iteration yeah the original design got completely like completely redone and I think this is a good opportunity to give a huge shout out to Catman on the forum for the hours of work that he did to help us build this front page um just all the thumbs up like if I had more thumbs yay these are my hiking boots that I'm breaking in for our uh our hike anyway so uh what's our next topic I don't even know do we have more topics uh we even cover on this show I I don't know we have more topics so we have tons of stuff in Rapid Fire uh Steam Sale and we can also talk about all of these things yeah let's talk about the Steam Sale so have have you bought anything no I think they're running into a real challenge here you and I were talking about this before so why don't you try to work your way through the topic in a coherent manner so so steam sales have been going on for a really long long time and they I don't think they were coming as fast as they used to yeah summer sale was like the big thing and now there's like summer sale and winter sale and Friday sale and like every sale you could ever possibly imagine so now we get to this summer sale and everybody's freaking out and posting gifts that are very old about the summer sale which I found kind of applicable to my point that it's it's a lot of the same stuff is on sale and actually for a lot of the same sales so a lot of things that I'm seeing go up like there might be one or two that are fairly interesting but then a lot of them are just like yeah this is this has already happened I already have this game because I bought it at this price a year ago so I'll take a little bit of my product management experience and sort of talk about this one of the biggest challenges is retaining um customer excitement so I I worked at NCI for 5 years I was a product manager or category manager for about three and a half four of it and um NC's sale promotional cycle is every Wednesday night a new weekly sale launches and the weekly sale can have CPUs or video cards or fans or whatever else and the idea is that at least some of those items need to be crazy and enticing because otherwise you don't generate that excitement and that buzz and that hype that truthfully even online even compared to because in retail you talk about a loss leader where the idea is to get the person into the door and sell them something else even online getting someone onto the website is a huge part of the battle and then if they buy that that CPU that you're discounting below cost they they might also buy a motherboard and they might also buy a video card and I mean in the IT industry the margins are so slim that that doesn't necessarily help that much but the point is that lost leading works and creating excitement helps to build the relationship with the customer because they get excited about what you're doing you look at how well valve does that they create this this excitement in this basically worship oh god of their sale and what happens is that eventually you run into a couple of roadblocks number one is that you can only drop prices so low before it starts to erode the margin and devalue the product to the point where customers aren't willing to pay more for it anymore and then you can't support your business that's starting to happen that is starting to happen um number two is you run out of new interesting things to erode the margin on and as long as there are you know Indie devs spitting out games every week or two um that's going to be less of an issue for PC gaming than it became for it in the later days of me managing that product because what happened was all of a sudden Nvidia and AMD slowed down from new graphics cards every 6 to 9 months to now we're looking at 12 to 15 to 18 and you can only discount the GTX 770 to $299.99 so many times before it stops becoming exciting you need before that be starts to become the price that people buy it at yes you need new products to Discount okay so that's that's uh that's problem number two and then problem number three is that I I think I guess that's pretty much it so we we look at this and to reinforce your point Sorry problem number three is because of the weekly sale Approach at NC we ran into this issue where from week to week the complaint was oh it's always the same things on sale and we'd kind of go well man what do you want us to do there there's no new graphics card it's kind of like when people complain about lonus tech tips not having a bunch of motherboard videos and I go man a motherboard hasn't been released in six months what do you want me to say I'm I'm going to go cover old motherboards yeah that'll work my biggest thing for ncx would be like it would be some themed sale and then I'd be like there's nothing following this theme but the problem with I get it so so valve is running into that frequency increasing margin eroding and not enough new products issue but the problem is that you can never backpedal I couldn't count the number of times that the product management team would get together and devise a new business strategy that wasn't a weekly sale and we'd kind of go okay let's do this let's do that we'll do because you know what's funny is customers ask for it all the time we want everyday low pricing and when you do that when you actually take an entire product line look we experimented with it I did it I would take an entire product line and I would discount it to the Target margin of a weekly sale item and I would just put it up on the website sales go like this it's not exciting you have to Discount and you can't stop discounting once you've started doing it so you end up in this trap and that is what I I guess we were trying to say we feel like is happening with the steam sales they they they still have those pull items though that you're talking about like Witcher 2 the enhanced Edition for four bucks 80% off that was a huge like I saw people talking about that everywhere but then there's also a lot of games on here that are just like yeah man i' it's not I've seen at that price like a whole bunch of times so I guess what I'm trying to say is as a product manager I'm telling you guys you got to be realistic in terms of your expectations valve won't be able to keep it up forever I think I think I think they will but it's just it's not going to be like the summer sale from like three years ago it's not going to be like it was and people will yearn for the old days and what they have to understand is that there's no going back to the old days there's no going back to the days of Intel and AMD leapfrogging each other every few months with newer higher performing more exciting CPUs that's never coming again until maybe I don't know Quantum Computing or something like it's it's it's gone for now pum K is pretty freaking cool it's the same thing with cell phones you know we're on yearlong scheduled release Cycles with the big guys with iterative improvements that really aren't bringing a whole lot new to the table be prepared to be less excited I think a lot of journalists who were disappointed with the Galaxy S5 had unrealistic expectations honestly I thought the Galaxy S5 was just fine it didn't blow me away but then neither did the S4 because I guess I just don't care that much but they did something that I thought were pretty great I thought the fact that they still have a plastic shell but the flex is much less was really good I just I had a different set of expectations for the S5 yeah speaking of of discounting and having room to bring prices down Apple now has a cheaper iMac um I think this is interesting for a number of reasons I think it's I think it's amazing that Apple gets away with introducing new desktop computers that have 1.4 GHz mobile dual core chips in them and 500 gig like mechanical hard drives for $1,100 I think that's amazing and they're basically Geniuses um but this is this is the thing you were just talking about they can't go back now they can't they can no longer have a not super cheap iMac but at least they've left themselves room to upgrade it they can add a quad core they can go SSD and they can put in discret graphics so that takes care of the next three generations of incremental improvements to the 212 in lowend iMac one thing that is surprising to me is it looks identical yeah so you can still get the like uh I have an iMac so you can still have uh I mean I'm trendy our our our viewer base and our Forum Community tends to kind of hate on Apple a fair bit but let's be honest guys industrial design costs money the same people who are drooling over how beautiful the 1 M8 is and talking about how great it is and it's you know fantastic that an Android phone has such great design are the same people who who are going to call an iPhone worthless when that stuff costs money having good build quality and good industrial design costs money and apple does some things right they put great screens on their machines am I going to buy one no because I know where to buy a good screen that doesn't come attached to an Apple computer but for a mainstream User it's not a terrible choice and it's nice to see them delivering something that I think fits really nicely into a niche I think someone like my dad would be just as suit this would be just as suitable for him plus an SSD because I think everyone needs an SSD someone like my dad could use this computer and it would be just as adequate for his needs as a $3,000 gaming rig with the other argument being that you could also build a $500 PC that would work for it as well so there's that Different Strokes for different folks speaking of Strokes uh hard drives you can Short Stroke them and we didn't Short Stroke it but we did take a hard drive and test it against an SSD oh that was I was like what is this segue the worst Segway ever it worked though we got there we got there we did make it it's all about getting there that's what she said anyway so unlike every other SSD versus hard drive test that I've ever seen where they take a completely sterile brand new OS put the latest drivers update all the windows updates put on their benchmarking applications and then test an SSD versus a hard drive and you'll see metrics like oh the SSD took 11 seconds to boot and the hard drive took 16 seconds and the the people who don't get it the people who don't understand the value of an SSD look at that and go yeah it's okay I can wait 5 seconds I like that I like I mean spread out lean back I even saw some comments on our ad SSD upgrade zombie video where people are like yeah um ssds are still stupid because um hard drives have 130 megabytes per second and ssds are only this much and it doesn't work that way okay so but the problem seems to be in the way that we benchmarked them so we decided to take a realworld like broken OS hard drive like one that's had its operating system running on it for five years got all kinds of crap running in the background is full it has like a bunch of was full was full I guess not full anymore but basically has had different boot loaders on it like like a few of them has had virus REM the way that a computer get used and then we ran we cloned that exact OS over to an SSD so we're showing the worst case most broken scenario for both and we tested them head-to-head and you guys are going to be wanting to check out the results that's going to come out uh sometime when is that video coming out it's fully ready is it ready okay so it's probably going to come out sometime this weekend or early next week so stay tuned for that guys uh I think it'll be early next week it's not edited yet it's like it's the all the that'll be next week the graphs are done all the footage is shot I think it's going to be the video to show the people who don't understand the value of an SSD someone in chat is SSD is just a number no it is not actually it isn't this time it is actually not oh man uh where was that other thing the VR fan let's talk about the VR fan okay I have to confess I didn't read this okay so you're on point oh dang I was gonna try and get you I because I I got this but I was gonna try and get you like what are your immediate thoughts upon seeing it okay I I did look at it a little bit so the idea is that it's going to blow air at you in order to make things more immersive right I think it's okay what do you think I think about it I think that you probably think it's amazing nope really I'm actually totally on your side oh okay and I've I've surprised like almost everyone with that so far but I like at at E3 everyone saw me freak out over control VR and I once saw my point about how for VR to become amazing we need to immerse all senses yeah and that got quoted a few times and I still stand by that but we don't need to be worrying about like wind Force at this point in the game with some like random little tiny fan which is probably not going to feel like it actually is anyways for certain specialty like very specific that bird thing like the bird thing where the fan was adaptively making you feel like you were rushing through the air okay but it's not the kind of thing that I'm going okay and if it's just a desk fan that sits on my desk and is just a desk fan except when I'm like okay I'm firing up the Oculus it's still dumb cuz you need it you need it to be like like for the bird thing when he was flying the whole fan physically moved yes so this thing isn't going to work unless you like okay this is where the fan is so my head goes here because like it's going to it's going to have to be positioned perfectly so unless you're like strapping it onto this huge rig that you're building anyways for the the one game that it's applicable for I'm not really sure and I would I just like it's cool that this guy made this but I I don't necessarily think it's good enough or ready yet for one um and it's it's I'm more worried about stuff like full body motion capture yeah which is like a way bigger deal than the wind I don't know I mean I to me it feels like um I hope Devil's Z is watching to me it feels kind of like um especially early implementations of FX where it's it's a nice to have not a need to have like like especially like remember games like gr right where the fizx implementation was like crumpled paper and 10 cans on the ground oh wrecked right where it's just like okay so that's there I totally don't care and this is totally stupid this fan is not going to be an integral part of any game play in the next 10 years you can quote me on that well the bird simulator thing that's not gameplay that's a simulation slightly different actually but still within the same category I suppose okay that fan will not be part of the game play and that's that's another thing like it has these nice cool specifics in terms of speed and stuff like that but it's probably immersive enough just to shove a fan in and I said integral part of gameplay like you look at how long like physx where Nvidia has throughout the entirety of physx History had 60 plus% market share on the desktop PC okay cards that support fizx are out there and yet we still don't have physx as an integral part of any game play with the exception of like cell factor which was never a thing it was a tech demo couldn't you like kick cans and stuff wasn't that like a big part of the game so with the 16 people who own this fan are we expecting a real game developer to build in support the answer is no uh apparently yeah to integral part of gameplay yeah y y y so there you go I don't I just yeah I uh it's it's it's a cool idea but like he's he's not getting funded because of everything that you just said um and maybe he does eventually get funded and I hope like someone picks him up because that would be cool cuz they're doing interesting programming stuff at the same time and if someone Picks Them Up and makes a way better version that would be really cool if someone picks them up and integrates it with another piece of VR Hardware like maybe Omni gets like a ring of them so that as you're walking around they could all work dynamically because you're able to plug them in together okay by the time we're building solutions that are Advanced enough for that like like how you and I were talking about how the arcade no that's what I mean though have to be something something way more advanced than this yeah yeah yeah I wasn't really listening was that what you were saying basically good job yeah okay I was I was making a straw pull cuz you can already string them together so you can plug them together and then they can work together to create the experience you can already do that so it probably doesn't work that great though so if someone else what I'm saying is if someone else picks them up and then integrates their fan solution into a much bigger product and then is able to have them all strung together and make it so that like like an arcade or something that could be really really cool all right I have a straw pole for you guys I'm evaluating options right now we we don't necessarily know um what form this would take but I'd just like for you guys to tell me would you consider for your rig for your for your gaming PC buying a lonus tech tips color schemed fan so it would just be black and orange and it would be about 20 bucks potentially and I can't give any more details it's something that I've wanted to do for a long time uh we were looking for the partner sorry it's a high quality we can say it's a high quality fan well we don't have the fan nailed down just yet so I've been trying to do this for a long time and basically what I want to know is do you guys even think it's worth the effort um because to put it to put this in perspective to to buy fans like I would have to buy them I would have to buy thousands so unless there are like hundreds of you who are like yes I'll buy one or I'll buy two or I'll buy five this can't happen so I I need to get some idea if you guys think that this is uh this is something that's worth doing and you can feel free to uh to tweet that at us as well we'll do a bit of a Twitter Blitz about this if you guys want to go ahead and uh and tweet tweet us sounds dirty tweet dirty to me and all the tweets were not related to the F oh wow that's interesting speaking of tweets that are not related to anything what the heck is this I don't know um I don't know wow um live live shopping us on the stream needs to not be a thing someone says please invest in a lapel mic that Explorer 3 review was hard to watch with audio like that what's what exp what's the Explorer 3 I have no idea is Alex Hardy confusing us with with somebody else Explorer 3 I can't even think what that if that was a type of what that could be yeah Explorer three anyway we have a lapel mic uh we did do a video recently where we didn't use our lav and it was because these guys took it to a trade show so oh basically deal with it um that's all I really have to say yeah I don't I don't think so no explor three yeah no anyway uh let's move on so people are saying maybe he meant E3 sure but I don't know people are saying they have brand preferences people are saying they want LEDs I can tell you right now it probably won't be LEDs and I can tell you right now they won't be cheaper than $20 um I'd buy a fan I'll buy Six I would buy them if they were high quality and get my PC cool my build is black and orange I'm down I'd make all my fans lus Edition okay so people are uh people are saying sort of yes um I'm getting advice don't invest tens of thousands of dollars in fans lonus if I didn't invest tens of thousands of dollars in my fans where would you all be not fans of anything we do potentially or maybe you would maybe I could have done all of this without hiring people and buying a bunch of equipment and stuff I'm going back to PewDiePie's approach actually that's something that I meant to talk about on the show this week is news broke there was a Forbes article about how PewDiePie makes $4 million a year or at least did last year I can tell you right now if it was 4 million last year it's a lot more than that this year um and there's a there's a whole bunch of stuff going on I mean uh puds himself has come out and said that that might be something of an exaggeration um although I so call BS on that because I know how much money we make I know how many views we get I know what a typical CPM is I know all of these metrics and that sounds about right so and like don't even just look at subscribers look at how many views and how many videos he pumps out and there's there are a lot of misconceptions um and and you look at how many videos he pumps out and also the fact that it's basically pure profit because he doesn't really have a team of people um or really any overhead it's it's streaming at a computer like he's shown what his game streaming setup looks like it's nothing really special there's lots of games but yeah aside from that um I mean I'm not I'm not going to be one of those guys that goes he doesn't deserve it because the reality of it is the way the world works is the people who figure something out and are clever enough to figure it out really well and be the best at something be number one at anything are going to be rewarded I'm not the number one YouTuber so I'm not going to get that massive enormous reward and I'm okay with that I'm not going to be all you know butt hurt oh he makes so much money I'm so unhappy um you know I I say I say good for him and people people are the the other people on the other side are pointing out that he has done uh charitable donations and you know raised money for worthy causes and all that stuff and you know I think that's great too I also don't think it necessarily you know validates if people make a ton of money and then they also raise money for charity I don't think that that I I don't think that should make people less upset about the disparity between the extremely wealthy and the extremely not wealthy um I just think it is what it is and um that number looks pretty realistic to me I I also wanted to dispel some myths so there are people out there who think that um you know Google AdSense on YouTube videos is like massive massive amounts of money um to put the to put things in perspective lineus Media Group if it relied strictly on Google AdSense I could pay each of the people here uh about $20,000 a year after their taxes and uh and after like Employment Insurance that's below minimum wage Pion pay yes yeah yeah that's well below minimum wage and we all work like massive overtime and we all work really hard I prefer the term really hard we work really hard gratuitous amounts of overtime I didn't stop working last night until like 2 a.m. the point is that that's not the way it works however if you do get those kinds of viewership numbers where you look at it and I think his view his numbers are like ridiculous like an order of magnitude and more higher than ours then it starts to add up especially if you don't have a ton of overhead another of the misconceptions that I encountered was that YouTubers get paid for subscribers YouTubers get paid exactly zero dollars for having a lot of subscribers the fact that I have $850,000 subscribers on a channel means nothing to Google nothing in terms of money it might mean something in terms of the inherent value of having someone who clicked and said yes I would like to hear from you when you some new content there there's a value there but it doesn't translate into money at all uh the money comes from the actual views so if you want to figure out how much a YouTuber is making relative to another YouTuber then you would look at views not at subscribers you could have a million subscribers and not be getting a ton of views like um someone like Peter chow and the revenue is probably not as strong there unless you know he's doing um really lucrative brand Integrations or things like that so that's how YouTubers are making the big bucks is doing things like um Devon super tramps Watchdogs uh Parkour in Real Life or whatever thing there's no way that Ubisoft didn't pay enormous buckets of money for that for example YouTube the like couple million views on YouTube were not going to be worth the effort of making that video some people started freaking out that our our minimum wage is so high just don't forget cost of living expense yeah Vancouver is an extremely expensive place place to live where we live has the 10 most expensive places to buy gas in all of North America so yeah it's kind of expensive food's expensive hous expensive and Foods houses isn't Vancouver also one of the most expensive I think it's like number two most expensive I think it's like after San Fran yeah something like that yeah it's ridiculous ludicrous it's expensive okay um well I I guess I'll show the results of the straw pole there so so looks like there are at least hundreds of you who would be interested in a black and orange Linus Tech tips themed fan for for 20 bucks um I'm still working on it I really hope that that's something that we can do it's nice of you guys to you know give me your your feedback here I really appreciate that I'm going to try and do it um and even if people don't buy them then that's that's great but um we can make forts out of them yeah we could we could make forts we could make a fan Throne fan Throne we have to make a fan Throne sometimes I just hate you we should try to make a channel super fun out of trying to make a quad copter out of not even a quadcopter not even anything infin opter I think we're done here guys um uh what what are your plans after the show I'm doing an Afterparty and I have no plans tonight so I'm doing an Afterparty for like are you playing Mario Kart cuz I want to play some Mario Kart you want to come play Mario Kart go down and play Mario Kart let's go down and play Mario let's go down and play some Mario Kart all right badass all right guys peace out thanks for watching the show we'll see you again same bad time same bad Channel next week and I hope that you also enjoyed the show as much as we enjoyed making it it was 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YouTube their Network their YouTube Network their biggest YouTube Network didn't know that now have YouTube integration with twitch Yeah well yeah I think they're uh I think they've got you know other things to deal with you know I don't feel too bad about it anyway guys welcome to the W show we've got a fantastic show planned for you today as we always do every show is great uh the part that I lied about was the planning I don't even have the document up on my computer yet you tell them about the show we have um just general disent for Ubisoft disent I said the wrong word we're just going to invent words because there are no words for how disatisfied we are there we go with how Ubisoft is treating PC Gamers disent I'm full of disent um they're full of disent their dis intentions are discombobulating my dentry and taking real words we just got dissed surrounding them with fake ones um and EA might not suck as much anymore but they haven't made that an actionable item yet so haven't made an what are you even talking about they haven't done anything with it they're just like yeah they're like they're doing they're pulling the Microsoft thing they're pulling the Microsoft thing we're going to support PC gaming sometime but EA's never actually gone that far before so this is still a step in the right direction that's true usually they're just like screw you guys at least they're paying lip service to the PC gaming Community this is true this is true T-Mobile test drive ripped off a line of te tips ideas and we'll be allowing people to something something tell you later um almost went a little bit too far and we now have a new beta for the front page of lines.com which you can check out it's sort of badass it's like sort of the best thing ever it was designed by me coded by me and all the Articles were written by me the lies just got bigger and bigger didn't if catman's watching he's just going to be like what are you kidding me you mean that guy that was just constantly like I don't like it make it go away he gets the credit for everything really no and that my friend is how Corporate America Works kind of yeah okay any no but seriously huge big UPS to Catman for being a cat and a man it's like anyway we'll talk more about that later but for now intro time this thing works a little bit differently this week so if I bung it up don't be surprised so they just sit there and then check this out I I swear I'm going to like hit edel because look at see how the background changes like way to go guy winner anyway the point is that our first sponsor today is Squarespace get 10% off with offer code Linus and stay tuned because later on in this very video we will be giving away a year worth of Squarespace service bam and the twitch chat just brought down and the twitch chat just brought here to go guys also sponsoring the event this week are all the sponsors of Highlander so this is Aus with their Rog series notebooks Intel with their core i7 high 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where's the image and I was like apparently we need an image for this thing which may or may not be a thing and then now we're giving away processors on it that's right that's cool like I this is legitimate like I actually had literally no idea we make snap decisions speaking of making SN you giving away mine your what the the ones that I've been testing with okay cool yeah don't worry it's all good I like those ones we got new we got new ones okay so I have the wrong document up still so you're on point oh no here we go all right so the headline this week all the fail Ubisoft could you have shot yourselves in the foot any better if you tried do you want to do you want to go through this while I I I'll manage what they're looking at on my screen here okay sure sure I I don't I don't understand how people haven't figured it out yet that one like don't lie to PC Gamers gamers in general but don't lie to PC Gamers they're gonna like Gabe has a quote like really really good quote about like yeah don't lie to the internet because they'll figure it out they'll plaster it everywhere and they'll never ever forget about it and it's just like what are you doing so so basically it all started on a misty day fog covered day with great headlight effects back in 201 2012 all all the Fanboys were excited about Watch Dogs with its amazing graphical Fidelity being showcased on the PC they they they dreamt of nights in future days when they could spend time night and Future Days you can listen to yourself when they spend time reacting to the light effects of lens flare of AFF mentioned Watchdogs and the depth of field and then Watchdogs launched here in 2014 total poo well total poo is unfair it looked like but what we can say is that it didn't look as good as Far Cry 3 which which is a Ubisoft title and old and not new so talk about this neoaf article that I've had sitting on my screen for a bit here what is this okay so two different modders CAD zate 24 and the worse um I'm more familiar with the the worse have released mods which unlock original Graphics effects to do this they they had to it's a lot harder than I'm going to explain right now but effectively they just turned things on they had to find them which was extremely difficult they had to gain access to them which was extremely difficult and all that kind of stuff but essentially it's already there they just had to turn it on which is fantastically amazing and horrible at the same time uh it it turns on tons and tons of different effects like uh St St I I love how Ubisoft I'm going to go into UB response Ubisoft response is classic so this is really long but it goes the dev team is completely dedicated to getting the most out of each platform so the notion that we you haven't you haven't talked about the stuff yet hold but I want to I want to talk show this and then show the improvements because they contradict themselves a little bit stressing me out okay so we want to get the most out of each platform whatever the notion that we would actively downgrade quality is contrary to everything we've set out to achieve we test and optimize our games for each platform on which they released strivings for the best quality POS possible I'm mixing this up a little bit the PC version does indeed contain some old unused render settings that were deactivated for V variety of reasons including possible impacts on visual Fidelity stability performance and overall gameplay then it goes on to some long stuff after that but I just wanted to show the like we deactivated it because of stability and stuff in the patch notes for the mods and in a lot of the reports that I've been reading from people that have tried these mods also known as pretty much all of them it's it runs smoother it's faster it's just as or more stable and looks way better because they've done things like uh allowing E3 2012 Bloom which is a setting ridiculous um performance improvements enabled headlight Shadows LED changes reflection changes added three new camera changes like closer normal further to give credit where credit is due this is total biscuits 25 minute rant on how ridiculous this is where he figures the only two conclusions uh for why Ubisoft might have turned off all of these settings cuz he's sitting here playing the game with everything turned on getting about the same performance that he was without all this stuff turned on when the theory you know in your mind is that more graphical Fidelity is supposed to make the game Run worse unless they're intentionally handicapping it so he comes up with two conclusions number one is gross incompetence and number two is that they're liars and those are basically the only ones that I can come up with too so anyway keep I'm just going to let them watch Total biscuit play this game cuz he's a good guy and this is a this is a pretty good video about how stupid this whole situation is yeah so they added all that stuff they also added stuff like lens flare lighting changes civilian density tons of stuff and there's even more stuff coming on the way that they're planning to improve and because they've broken into it this far I expect actual full mods to come out at some point which aren't just turning things on which like this is still Absolut I'm not I'm not trying to downgrade what Cad zate and the worse are doing I'm just saying uh it could be different from there um then people started freaking out because there was a softpedia article with a quote from Ubisoft talking about Far Cry 4 saying that Far Cry 4 on PC at maximum settings will look the same as it does on consoles so and their claim here so their their BS claim is oh yeah yeah well we we deved it on the PC and then we just we just like plugged that code into the the the current gen new consoles and it like ran so amazing that everyone's going to have the best experience regardless of what is that as stunning as next gen console games are starting to look no wait no that's Forbes right so even out of the box even day one we just stuck the code on the new consoles and we were able to dial it all the way up so as a console player you're already getting by far the best version we can ship can ship also known as they went through and scrubbed their Co this time took out everything that mentioned anything about PC turned like instead of just turning settings off completely removed them and then went yeah that's what you're getting so to make matters worse I don't know if this is actually in your notes but the word on the street is that the Watchdog performance patch that was supposed to come at the beginning of this month uh is going to disable the hack no I had never heard of that yeah really so basically Ubisoft just keeps on digging is that is that actually like a really good source that that's for I'm going to have to double check I'll tell you what I will double check right now um but okay I can go into the rest of what ubisoft's response was um so modders are usually creative and passionate players and while we appreciate their enthusiasm the mod in question which uses those old settings subjectively enhances the game's visual Fidelity in certain situations but also can have various negative impacts never seen any of those there's a little bit of headlight flicker that total biscuit noticed oh no he he's even said it wasn't a big deal and yeah yeah if there's someone who's going to criticize like graphical Fidelity it's going to be total biscuit it'll be total biscuit so there's that um those could range from uh performance issues nope uh to difficulty in reading the environment nope uh to potentially making the game less enjoyable or even unstable nope and no no so nothing that they've claimed has actually been like perceived by anyone so what they're trying to save people from doesn't exist and that's frustrating then jumping over to the Far Cry 4 thing apparently the softpedia article um is is not a very good article because of misquoting and other kind of stuff like that so if you ignore that the Ubisoft Montreal Creator that's that's when they start saying like oh we just dialed everything up and it looked amazing um um that makes me not necessarily think that the softpedia article was even necessarily A misquote I think it was just in the way that they used that I guess that's technically misquoting but it's like it's it's still the truth just because they quoted it kind of in a weird way doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong because they are there's no way you're just like oh yeah we deved everything on PC didn't taste anything on consoles ever and then plugged it in and it just everything went to Max that's not that's not how that works I got to wonder how the devs feel you know the ones that actually care about delivering the best product that they possibly can that like group of Hardcore guys which are actually super badass and made all the settings and stuff for Watch Dogs and then just had them all turned off yeah that's got to suck and you got to you got to wonder and they're probably under some sort of agreement so they can't say you got to wonder how intentionally gimped the performance is then if they were able to enable all that stuff and have it run basically the same um I just I just yeah I don't know I've had people message me telling me that we shouldn't do benchmarking videos early well that's the only way to get views it's one of those things where should you review a game early or should you wait till the first patch well if you review the game right out of the gate then people will watch your video and if you review after the first patch you might have a better gaming experience but but at the same time ship your game properly yeah like release your game so that it's playable if if we if if we review performance of your game right out of the gate that'll give people the benefit when your game performs really well at out right out of the gate how it should of having a very good performance review from us okay here we go so the mod still works you just have to unpack the files and then repack them with the new patch. datat okay so the worst mod still works but the patch does disable it and also apparently doesn't fix the stuttering issue while driving so thanks guys you just made it slightly more annoying for no reason yay luckily that's still way easier than modding things like it used to be so I don't know that's yeah yeah I guess this makes the moding community's job in general easier like imagine how quickly they could do those GTA mods if the developer just did all the work and someone just had to dig around in the turn it on it's kind of like how overclocking has gotten so much easier over the last few years you just press the OC button it's going to be like just press the like mod button oh yeah these are the PC settings we didn't turn on there you go they should just be on the launcher there should be like a this is made for PC but if you actually want to play it as if you own a PC make sure you click this button before you load the game it's just like Okay click thanks fantastic so yeah everyone hates Ubie and then there's a bunch of stuff that's been going around that didn't get coted up here for some reason but I still have it down in the bottom uh where's that TW Twitter thing ubby Tessa oh this is epic okay hold on let me let me bring this up because I mean their their PR department in their defense I can't imagine that they know what to do or what to say at this point but this wasn't it yeah so I I was worried that it was edited and then I noticed the picture was different so I freaked out a little bit but it looks like it's the same okay so here's a tweet from Below in a tweet a couple months ago you said watch Do's Graphics were not downgraded do you still hold this to be true I recall replying saying that the game was not downgraded I still stick to that yes wow yikes it's like yeah Tessa this is from Ryan Tessa you might want to put your uh foot in your mouth here I don't think that that's actually what putting your foot in your mouth means Ryan you did very well though um but basically you guys are all over the front page of Reddit I don't envy your PR team right now I'm surprised they didn't get them to turn it off to be H I'm surprised that they issued a statement at all I'm surprised that they didn't just wait quietly for this to be swept under the rug where the hardcores were going to remember it and mostly people would forget unfortunately they've added so much to the fuel to the fire that again I'm going to bring up total biscuit uh but check this out WTF is Watchdogs so the Watchdogs review 850,000 views from 3 weeks ago the was watchdogs on PC handicapped on purpose video from 3 days ago 520,000 views they are letting this spin out of control and they are adding fuel to the fire by denying it publicly instead of just addressing it and promising to the community to issue an official patch that turns everything back on there is no way to fix this at this point other than shut up and that doesn't really fix it because lots of people will still be mad or go just go fullon look our bad we're sorry which you know what that probably would have worked that would have definitely honestly The Gaming Community like if you if you shake their hand and Pat them on the back a little bit they're usually cool yeah they'll get super pissed and they will literally try to murder you but if you're like be friendsit there's been attempts well okay um there's there's this quote by Sebastian viard I hope I'm saying that correctly Watch Dogs can use three plus G of RAM on N NG consoles for graphics your PC GPU needs enough vram for Ultra options due to the lack of unified memory who is this Sebastian vard oh excellent it's like okay then where's the I don't know exactly where it is but I just wanted to bring up uh the there it is G in okay can you show me where that is cuz it's not actually helpful for you to bring things up on your screen no it's here that's when I'm highlighting it okay there we go so here's the here's the quote from gay Ben here's a little quote that everyone in the gaming industry needs to remember yeah don't ever ever try to lie to the internet because they will catch you they will deconstruct your spin they will remember everything you say for eternity it's like yeah yeah they will so changing gears um EA has actually done a couple of things this week that are looking pretty positive so the original poster online tech tips.com is RI or Rafi or Rafi or anyway um and EA says they have plans for how they intend to change the way they make games so the original article here is from pcgamer.com and this is right from the CEO although based on some of Ubisoft CEO's statements about the whole Watch Dogs Far Cry 4 nonsense um I don't know does does a CEO have more credibility than a PR I don't know is he just glorified PR hard to say so last year EA was voted worst company in America I think that was wasn't that two years ago anyway the point is yeah it's happened a couple of times so CEO Andrew Wilson says the new mandate at EA is to ensure its games are functional and fun at a much earlier stage in the process than it has in the past they want to be more rigorous about ensuring quality control throughout the process and they want to be willing to delay A Game's launch when it's necessary we have now said that there is no alternative if the build is not playable you have to push the schedule until it's playable again that's great um another an example of this sort of new approach is the beta for the battlefield hard for Battlefield Hardline that went live earlier this month and they're saying that they want to do earlier betas to get real play testing done at an earlier point in the process so that when they game does actually ship they are able to deliver a much more polished experience the whole he he says the Hollywood Blockbuster mentality of keep all the information to yourself is not something that makes sense in today's world we can't keep a secret anyway so we may as well just start talking about it there are disadvantages to this approach you look at some of the challenges that Chris Roberts's team has had with Star Citizen where the kimono is open they're like yeah baby here's all the bugs that we're working on in pre Alpha you want to see this crap you want to see this terrible code you want to see this unoptimized garbage and you know that turns into uncomfortable stories where they'll they'll give us these internal Milestones like yeah we really want to have it working for this date and that date comes and goes and it's gone it's not there yet but then because of that the flak is not as bad that's right just be honest with people I had this conversation with another YouTuber a little while ago where they made some comment about you know whether or not you know sponsorships were okay from a particular company and I basically said look I wear my sponsorships on my sleeve because the way that I see it if I am upfront with my community about who's giving me money and for what and what we're saying then there's nothing to hide if everything I tell you guys is the truth and what we're doing and everything we're doing is completely above it's up to the viewer to decide how they feel about that whereas if I were to try to conceal in some way the sponsorships that we have on this show that makes me a lot more uncomfortable where if I didn't feel like I was doing something wrong I shouldn't have to hide it and anyway so that's sort of that's my my take for my personal business on the whole honesty is the best policy thing because if I lied to you guys if I said um Asus doesn't have a relationship with us where they sponsor things that we do and that involves an exchange of money you guys are going to dig it up at some point yeah pointing at our powered by Theus g750 JZ which they're not even you guys are going to dig it up at some point and you're going to throw it back in my face and you're right to do that period you're right to do that and I think the timing for this is kind of awesome because ubisoft's trying to kind of like shove some things under the rug and ignoring other things and all the kind of stuff and he's like we're going to talk to you guys now good it's do it I don't know yeah I mean there's no guarantees I mean this is cool um they've added origin game time so this is another kind of new thing that they're doing I think they're what are they offering two full days of Titanfall for free on PC I mean I I suspect this as much of a desperation tactic to resurrect Titanfall as anything else but at least it's the right kind of desperation tactic at least they're not you know trying to like that whole Fiasco with Microsoft paying game streamers to use the Xbox one but then not allowing them to talk about it again it all comes down to the same thing be honest about your marketing attempts be upfront hey we need people we need people to play Titanfall we want to sell this game here try it you know you know here's the first this honestly it's a good way to do it and some people have made parallels to the free weekend thing on Steam and like that's fine I like that program EA should have taken that I hope Ubisoft does as well copying valve is not a bad business Tech no it's not they're doing a lot of things correctly and actually you play please God start working on copying valve you're bad anyways um this is this is actually a really good thing if I didn't own Titanfall I would have actually probably downloaded it and tried to play it that's one thing too is being a big AAA we sell games for very expensive prices developer having it so that you can try these things for free a lot of times is helpful one thing I see with free weekends on Steam a lot of the time is that it's an old game Y and it's like 80% off plus a free weekend so you can try it and go oh okay I might as well finish this campaign for $2 and then you buy it this is kind of different because it's Titanfall it's a big fairly new game it's a relatively recent game it's not a $9.99 special in you know the summer sale and like it it happens you you get these big games and free weekends and stuff too I'm just I'm just saying not not all that often so I I I don't know I think it's I think it's great I mean I think it's I I I don't know that we should applaud it too much because it's not so much a step forward as it is retracing the old steps of remember when we used to have demos for games yeah yeah yeah do you know how many times I played the Warcraft 2 demo campaign and like didn't that come in like PC Gamer or something it was so exciting because the the demo had you not be able to build Knights or ogres but you had to fight one in the final battle partway through one of the levels and you were like oh those are cool I want to make those go buy the game back when they understood demos it's cool I remember I I used to try and get the X original Xbox I almost just said Xbox One original Xbox magazines when I had one of those and like you'd get the the demo disc for like Mortal Kombat or the demo disc for whatever and it was like oh this is so cool I have one level of Mortal Kombat with like four characters yeah let's fight for days this is all we have some demos were too good the uh the Halo 1 demo allowed you to play Blood G multiplayer oh my God which is basically the only map anyone ever needed the whole game okay that's cool when to hold something back that map probably shouldn't have done that although you know whatever if it turns into full sales yeah I guess there's that yeah my my dad surprised us with our box and Halo so I never needed the demo disc luckily that was cool your dad's kind of a badass sometimes he is okay so should we talk about the T-Mobile yeah let's move right into T-Mobile test drive so this byon ryuk run rukun yeah oh thank you that's probably it okay so the original article is from rutters.com so we're going to go ahead and pop that open on the page here but basically the big headline here is the one week Network test drive where they're letting anyone and their dog actually not their dog it has to be one per household ha see how I unless the one goes to their dog unless the one goes to the dog a pretty pretty useless demo trial but that would be kind of awesome like I like Bol style like dog with like Google Glass and like what if you what if you got like a headset thing for your dog that had mobile connectivity then you could send it commands through there so you could be like come to the living room and if you teach it like what different rooms names are if you create that game and then you have a demo of it I will play the demo and promptly not buy the game dog Commander dog Commander 2014 edition you know you just know the goat simulator guys are working on this already dog Commander dog Commander real life 2014 edition upstairs DLC 1499 so you can try it for a week and unless you damage the phone this is with an iPhone 5S unless you damage the phone or you what's the other one right fail to return it within the week you will not be charged anything that's pretty freaking cool but the big one to me I just signed up for Google Play music so the the $10 a month all you can eat service which is just it's amazing cuz combined with the Sono system that I just set up um I can just be like I get home and I'm like kids music play in the living room and my son dances and like it's it's the cutest thing ever that's pretty cool it's awesome anyway so T-Mobile is now allowing on popular streaming services like Spotify and Pandora you to stream music to your phone without that counting towards your data plan how much do I wish that T-Mobile was in Canada we say this so much but like seriously please please I'm I'm I'm not even on contract right now I just can't pick another vendor because they're all horrible so like you know there's a there's another new sponsor we have Ting but there they're not in Canada either know I know but they're they're pretty cool too because I know they are everything's alart and anyway you guys are going to hear about it in our upcoming Devil's Canyon video Nick asked me before I knew that they were coming on a sponsor he's like what do you think about Ting so I went on this like little mini rant about how they're like they're I think they're even a Canadian company they're hosted over like Toronto or something our rep is based in Toronto yeah and then but they're not in Canada and I like I I went through all this stuff and then he's like oh well that's good cuz they're sporing us now and I was like oh well okay cool I'm done with that I guess put them on the W show they're not even sponsoring the W show we're just giving them a spot because why not anyway T-Mobile's whole thing is if you try it we think you're going to love it um they've also got that thing where they're incentivizing people to break their contracts by helping pay for that um and they're proud of the fact apparently that t- mobile customers use 69% more data than Verizon customers and 100% more than AT&T customers it's already cut you off do you remember devil zzz yeah yeah of course he posts all the time even on like ncx forums and stuff about physics yeah the physics guy know it's his son's Payton's birthday okay I just wanted to I had to happy physx to your son pton okay that's it keep moving speaking of physx originally posted by speed rookie on the Forum the original article is from Tom's Hardware the word on the street is nvidia's gtx8 80 and 880 Ti are to be cheaper than the 780 Ti with toms's uh by line or whatever the sub headline whatever the Bold thing not all rumors should be believed and this is probably a prime example and yeah this stems from like some random Forum post somewhere and it's just like and it's been making the rounds and I'm going to back up Tom's here because whenever the rumors start flying about how much will Nvidia or amd's new Gra card cost will it be cheaper oh my God it's going to be cheaper will it be more will Intel's new CPU be cheaper will it be more the answer is no the answer is just no because it's going to be the same it's always the same every time the one exception was GTX 68 GTX 680 they blindsided us a little bit in a couple of ways number one was that we got a 256bit chip and they called it a high-end GPU number two was that it was $100 cheaper than an 80 class GPU tends to be so we want is um the the rumors are that the 880 and 880 Ti will be cheaper to manufacture than their predecessor PR predecessors um this much could be true especially if the rumor that they'll have a 256-bit memory interface are true Al at the same time it might be a cheaper to manufacturer but that doesn't necessarily mean that the price is going to come down as they say here okay yeah what I'm expecting is that these cards might be um you know an improvement in performance and design so the of course they're expected to be based on the Maxwell architecture so what I would expect based on what we saw with our first Maxwell gpus so the 750 Ti is that we're going to see dramatic improvements in power consumption we're going to see potentially great overclockability we're going to see um better IPC so we might get similar performance to the last generation flagships but at a lower cost with a narrower memory interface and better costs and if miners were still having a crazy Heyday they might be really interested because the 750 Ti was a very interesting mining card yeah it was but that's kind of mining's kind of yeah you can pick up 290s for like what 250 bucks on eBay now 200 250 bucks like sometimes with water block they just like yeah take it oh okay yeah don't worry about it bro anyway these are expected to start arriving sort of end of 2014 beginning of 2015 but this is all rumors if we knew anything concrete we wouldn't be able to say it anyway yep speaking of things that we know that are concrete this is happening okay I thought you were doing this why does it look like that I swear I will murder someone that's a lower third yeah it's a lower third but it's like broken and and it's not transparent I don't think unless ah yes okay well I'm going to fix this and then the colors we look horrible yeah I don't remember what the things are I think it's like hello everyone it's 1970 let's just do like oh yes what a Hulk bump up that saturation hold on hold on I got this i got this W because that that my friends is how crazy awesome this event is going to be this is the first major collaboration why do you keep showing off that see thing look how pink it is yes you love Firefox we get it actually I'm getting a littleit frustrated with me too it's been crashing a lot for me like a lot and there's been other issues anyway so um that logs me 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the expert live stream it's coming next week we are going to have one of the uh let me see actually I can't quite you know what I'm just going to bring up the Forum thread because I think that'll work better here this is going to be pretty cool we did this a little while ago with one of their uh one of their technical engineer guys on the SSD side when they launched the 730 and I don't know if you guys tuned into that live stream but it was really really good we got a ton of insight into things like like this guy worked with the team that launched the original extreme Edition and he was talking about that and just the all these behind the scenes like crazy cool things go on so this time we have a product marketing engineer on the CPU side of things so you're going to want to go ahead and there we go uh check out this thread it's called talk to the product marketing engineer I think I had asked Nick to call it um ask the expert but whatever um live chat and giveaway you're going to want 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for a second are you in Firefox look at I don't know what happened to this computer that was like pretty broken oh okay is oh is it a zoom thing no there's an ad takeover oh it's it was on Twitter and stuff I was wondering if Twitter started pushing ads to people brilliant um apparently okay well whatever look look on my screen just walk okay so there's not all functionality is already in here yet yeah it says beta yeah throwing that out there so I'm going to go through how things are kind of supposed to work so this main big slider where you guys see GPU miners crash of 2014 and other things constantly rotates you can pause it though and you can manually select next or whatever if you click in the black space um that also goes next but if you click read more or click on the image that will bring you to the article there's some like teaser text that will go under the title so you can see a little bit about what the article is about that I've just filled in a couple of them right now 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yeah I have a few few people that I kind of think will already be on top of that but what we'll we'll see once that actually starts becoming so very much by the community for the community uh we think it's really cool we hope that you guys do too and uh there you go that's what we've been this has been in the works for like 8 months really long time long time seen a lot of iteration yeah the original design got completely like completely redone and I think this is a good opportunity to give a huge shout out to Catman on the forum for the hours of work that he did to help us build this front page um just all the thumbs up like if I had more thumbs yay these are my hiking boots that I'm breaking in for our uh our hike anyway so uh what's our next topic I don't even know do we have more topics uh we even cover on this show I I don't know we have more topics so we have tons of stuff in Rapid Fire uh Steam Sale and we can also talk about all of these things yeah let's talk about the Steam Sale so have have you bought anything no I think they're running into a real challenge here you and I were talking about this before so why don't you try to work your way through the topic in a coherent manner so so steam sales have been going on for a really long long time and they I don't think they were coming as fast as they used to yeah summer sale was like the big thing and now there's like summer sale and winter sale and Friday sale and like every sale you could ever possibly imagine so now we get to this summer sale and everybody's freaking out and posting gifts that are very old about the summer sale which I found kind of applicable to my point that it's it's a lot of the same stuff is on sale and actually for a lot of the same sales so a lot of things that I'm seeing go up like there might be one or two that are fairly interesting but then a lot of them are just like yeah this is this has already happened I already have this game because I bought it at this price a year ago so I'll take a little bit of my product management experience and sort of talk about this one of the biggest challenges is retaining um customer excitement so I I worked at NCI for 5 years I was a product manager or category manager for about three and a half four of it and um NC's sale promotional cycle is every Wednesday night a new weekly sale launches and the weekly sale can have CPUs or video cards or fans or whatever else and the idea is that at least some of those items need to be crazy and enticing because otherwise you don't generate that excitement and that buzz and that hype that truthfully even online even compared to because in retail you talk about a loss leader where the idea is to get the person into the door and sell them something else even online getting someone onto the website is a huge part of the battle and then if they buy that that CPU that you're discounting below cost they they might also buy a motherboard and they might also buy a video card and I mean in the IT industry the margins are so slim that that doesn't necessarily help that much but the point is that lost leading works and creating excitement helps to build the relationship with the customer because they get excited about what you're doing you look at how well valve does that they create this this excitement in this basically worship oh god of their sale and what happens is that eventually you run into a couple of roadblocks number one is that you can only drop prices so low before it starts to erode the margin and devalue the product to the point where customers aren't willing to pay more for it anymore and then you can't support your business that's starting to happen that is starting to happen um number two is you run out of new interesting things to erode the margin on and as long as there are you know Indie devs spitting out games every week or two um that's going to be less of an issue for PC gaming than it became for it in the later days of me managing that product because what happened was all of a sudden Nvidia and AMD slowed down from new graphics cards every 6 to 9 months to now we're looking at 12 to 15 to 18 and you can only discount the GTX 770 to $299.99 so many times before it stops becoming exciting you need before that be starts to become the price that people buy it at yes you need new products to Discount okay so that's that's uh that's problem number two and then problem number three is that I I think I guess that's pretty much it so we we look at this and to reinforce your point Sorry problem number three is because of the weekly sale Approach at NC we ran into this issue where from week to week the complaint was oh it's always the same things on sale and we'd kind of go well man what do you want us to do there there's no new graphics card it's kind of like when people complain about lonus tech tips not having a bunch of motherboard videos and I go man a motherboard hasn't been released in six months what do you want me to say I'm I'm going to go cover old motherboards yeah that'll work my biggest thing for ncx would be like it would be some themed sale and then I'd be like there's nothing following this theme but the problem with I get it so so valve is running into that frequency increasing margin eroding and not enough new products issue but the problem is that you can never backpedal I couldn't count the number of times that the product management team would get together and devise a new business strategy that wasn't a weekly sale and we'd kind of go okay let's do this let's do that we'll do because you know what's funny is customers ask for it all the time we want everyday low pricing and when you do that when you actually take an entire product line look we experimented with it I did it I would take an entire product line and I would discount it to the Target margin of a weekly sale item and I would just put it up on the website sales go like this it's not exciting you have to Discount and you can't stop discounting once you've started doing it so you end up in this trap and that is what I I guess we were trying to say we feel like is happening with the steam sales they they they still have those pull items though that you're talking about like Witcher 2 the enhanced Edition for four bucks 80% off that was a huge like I saw people talking about that everywhere but then there's also a lot of games on here that are just like yeah man i' it's not I've seen at that price like a whole bunch of times so I guess what I'm trying to say is as a product manager I'm telling you guys you got to be realistic in terms of your expectations valve won't be able to keep it up forever I think I think I think they will but it's just it's not going to be like the summer sale from like three years ago it's not going to be like it was and people will yearn for the old days and what they have to understand is that there's no going back to the old days there's no going back to the days of Intel and AMD leapfrogging each other every few months with newer higher performing more exciting CPUs that's never coming again until maybe I don't know Quantum Computing or something like it's it's it's gone for now pum K is pretty freaking cool it's the same thing with cell phones you know we're on yearlong scheduled release Cycles with the big guys with iterative improvements that really aren't bringing a whole lot new to the table be prepared to be less excited I think a lot of journalists who were disappointed with the Galaxy S5 had unrealistic expectations honestly I thought the Galaxy S5 was just fine it didn't blow me away but then neither did the S4 because I guess I just don't care that much but they did something that I thought were pretty great I thought the fact that they still have a plastic shell but the flex is much less was really good I just I had a different set of expectations for the S5 yeah speaking of of discounting and having room to bring prices down Apple now has a cheaper iMac um I think this is interesting for a number of reasons I think it's I think it's amazing that Apple gets away with introducing new desktop computers that have 1.4 GHz mobile dual core chips in them and 500 gig like mechanical hard drives for $1,100 I think that's amazing and they're basically Geniuses um but this is this is the thing you were just talking about they can't go back now they can't they can no longer have a not super cheap iMac but at least they've left themselves room to upgrade it they can add a quad core they can go SSD and they can put in discret graphics so that takes care of the next three generations of incremental improvements to the 212 in lowend iMac one thing that is surprising to me is it looks identical yeah so you can still get the like uh I have an iMac so you can still have uh I mean I'm trendy our our our viewer base and our Forum Community tends to kind of hate on Apple a fair bit but let's be honest guys industrial design costs money the same people who are drooling over how beautiful the 1 M8 is and talking about how great it is and it's you know fantastic that an Android phone has such great design are the same people who who are going to call an iPhone worthless when that stuff costs money having good build quality and good industrial design costs money and apple does some things right they put great screens on their machines am I going to buy one no because I know where to buy a good screen that doesn't come attached to an Apple computer but for a mainstream User it's not a terrible choice and it's nice to see them delivering something that I think fits really nicely into a niche I think someone like my dad would be just as suit this would be just as suitable for him plus an SSD because I think everyone needs an SSD someone like my dad could use this computer and it would be just as adequate for his needs as a $3,000 gaming rig with the other argument being that you could also build a $500 PC that would work for it as well so there's that Different Strokes for different folks speaking of Strokes uh hard drives you can Short Stroke them and we didn't Short Stroke it but we did take a hard drive and test it against an SSD oh that was I was like what is this segue the worst Segway ever it worked though we got there we got there we did make it it's all about getting there that's what she said anyway so unlike every other SSD versus hard drive test that I've ever seen where they take a completely sterile brand new OS put the latest drivers update all the windows updates put on their benchmarking applications and then test an SSD versus a hard drive and you'll see metrics like oh the SSD took 11 seconds to boot and the hard drive took 16 seconds and the the people who don't get it the people who don't understand the value of an SSD look at that and go yeah it's okay I can wait 5 seconds I like that I like I mean spread out lean back I even saw some comments on our ad SSD upgrade zombie video where people are like yeah um ssds are still stupid because um hard drives have 130 megabytes per second and ssds are only this much and it doesn't work that way okay so but the problem seems to be in the way that we benchmarked them so we decided to take a realworld like broken OS hard drive like one that's had its operating system running on it for five years got all kinds of crap running in the background is full it has like a bunch of was full was full I guess not full anymore but basically has had different boot loaders on it like like a few of them has had virus REM the way that a computer get used and then we ran we cloned that exact OS over to an SSD so we're showing the worst case most broken scenario for both and we tested them head-to-head and you guys are going to be wanting to check out the results that's going to come out uh sometime when is that video coming out it's fully ready is it ready okay so it's probably going to come out sometime this weekend or early next week so stay tuned for that guys uh I think it'll be early next week it's not edited yet it's like it's the all the that'll be next week the graphs are done all the footage is shot I think it's going to be the video to show the people who don't understand the value of an SSD someone in chat is SSD is just a number no it is not actually it isn't this time it is actually not oh man uh where was that other thing the VR fan let's talk about the VR fan okay I have to confess I didn't read this okay so you're on point oh dang I was gonna try and get you I because I I got this but I was gonna try and get you like what are your immediate thoughts upon seeing it okay I I did look at it a little bit so the idea is that it's going to blow air at you in order to make things more immersive right I think it's okay what do you think I think about it I think that you probably think it's amazing nope really I'm actually totally on your side oh okay and I've I've surprised like almost everyone with that so far but I like at at E3 everyone saw me freak out over control VR and I once saw my point about how for VR to become amazing we need to immerse all senses yeah and that got quoted a few times and I still stand by that but we don't need to be worrying about like wind Force at this point in the game with some like random little tiny fan which is probably not going to feel like it actually is anyways for certain specialty like very specific that bird thing like the bird thing where the fan was adaptively making you feel like you were rushing through the air okay but it's not the kind of thing that I'm going okay and if it's just a desk fan that sits on my desk and is just a desk fan except when I'm like okay I'm firing up the Oculus it's still dumb cuz you need it you need it to be like like for the bird thing when he was flying the whole fan physically moved yes so this thing isn't going to work unless you like okay this is where the fan is so my head goes here because like it's going to it's going to have to be positioned perfectly so unless you're like strapping it onto this huge rig that you're building anyways for the the one game that it's applicable for I'm not really sure and I would I just like it's cool that this guy made this but I I don't necessarily think it's good enough or ready yet for one um and it's it's I'm more worried about stuff like full body motion capture yeah which is like a way bigger deal than the wind I don't know I mean I to me it feels like um I hope Devil's Z is watching to me it feels kind of like um especially early implementations of FX where it's it's a nice to have not a need to have like like especially like remember games like gr right where the fizx implementation was like crumpled paper and 10 cans on the ground oh wrecked right where it's just like okay so that's there I totally don't care and this is totally stupid this fan is not going to be an integral part of any game play in the next 10 years you can quote me on that well the bird simulator thing that's not gameplay that's a simulation slightly different actually but still within the same category I suppose okay that fan will not be part of the game play and that's that's another thing like it has these nice cool specifics in terms of speed and stuff like that but it's probably immersive enough just to shove a fan in and I said integral part of gameplay like you look at how long like physx where Nvidia has throughout the entirety of physx History had 60 plus% market share on the desktop PC okay cards that support fizx are out there and yet we still don't have physx as an integral part of any game play with the exception of like cell factor which was never a thing it was a tech demo couldn't you like kick cans and stuff wasn't that like a big part of the game so with the 16 people who own this fan are we expecting a real game developer to build in support the answer is no uh apparently yeah to integral part of gameplay yeah y y y so there you go I don't I just yeah I uh it's it's it's a cool idea but like he's he's not getting funded because of everything that you just said um and maybe he does eventually get funded and I hope like someone picks him up because that would be cool cuz they're doing interesting programming stuff at the same time and if someone Picks Them Up and makes a way better version that would be really cool if someone picks them up and integrates it with another piece of VR Hardware like maybe Omni gets like a ring of them so that as you're walking around they could all work dynamically because you're able to plug them in together okay by the time we're building solutions that are Advanced enough for that like like how you and I were talking about how the arcade no that's what I mean though have to be something something way more advanced than this yeah yeah yeah I wasn't really listening was that what you were saying basically good job yeah okay I was I was making a straw pull cuz you can already string them together so you can plug them together and then they can work together to create the experience you can already do that so it probably doesn't work that great though so if someone else what I'm saying is if someone else picks them up and then integrates their fan solution into a much bigger product and then is able to have them all strung together and make it so that like like an arcade or something that could be really really cool all right I have a straw pole for you guys I'm evaluating options right now we we don't necessarily know um what form this would take but I'd just like for you guys to tell me would you consider for your rig for your for your gaming PC buying a lonus tech tips color schemed fan so it would just be black and orange and it would be about 20 bucks potentially and I can't give any more details it's something that I've wanted to do for a long time uh we were looking for the partner sorry it's a high quality we can say it's a high quality fan well we don't have the fan nailed down just yet so I've been trying to do this for a long time and basically what I want to know is do you guys even think it's worth the effort um because to put it to put this in perspective to to buy fans like I would have to buy them I would have to buy thousands so unless there are like hundreds of you who are like yes I'll buy one or I'll buy two or I'll buy five this can't happen so I I need to get some idea if you guys think that this is uh this is something that's worth doing and you can feel free to uh to tweet that at us as well we'll do a bit of a Twitter Blitz about this if you guys want to go ahead and uh and tweet tweet us sounds dirty tweet dirty to me and all the tweets were not related to the F oh wow that's interesting speaking of tweets that are not related to anything what the heck is this I don't know um I don't know wow um live live shopping us on the stream needs to not be a thing someone says please invest in a lapel mic that Explorer 3 review was hard to watch with audio like that what's what exp what's the Explorer 3 I have no idea is Alex Hardy confusing us with with somebody else Explorer 3 I can't even think what that if that was a type of what that could be yeah Explorer three anyway we have a lapel mic uh we did do a video recently where we didn't use our lav and it was because these guys took it to a trade show so oh basically deal with it um that's all I really have to say yeah I don't I don't think so no explor three yeah no anyway uh let's move on so people are saying maybe he meant E3 sure but I don't know people are saying they have brand preferences people are saying they want LEDs I can tell you right now it probably won't be LEDs and I can tell you right now they won't be cheaper than $20 um I'd buy a fan I'll buy Six I would buy them if they were high quality and get my PC cool my build is black and orange I'm down I'd make all my fans lus Edition okay so people are uh people are saying sort of yes um I'm getting advice don't invest tens of thousands of dollars in fans lonus if I didn't invest tens of thousands of dollars in my fans where would you all be not fans of anything we do potentially or maybe you would maybe I could have done all of this without hiring people and buying a bunch of equipment and stuff I'm going back to PewDiePie's approach actually that's something that I meant to talk about on the show this week is news broke there was a Forbes article about how PewDiePie makes $4 million a year or at least did last year I can tell you right now if it was 4 million last year it's a lot more than that this year um and there's a there's a whole bunch of stuff going on I mean uh puds himself has come out and said that that might be something of an exaggeration um although I so call BS on that because I know how much money we make I know how many views we get I know what a typical CPM is I know all of these metrics and that sounds about right so and like don't even just look at subscribers look at how many views and how many videos he pumps out and there's there are a lot of misconceptions um and and you look at how many videos he pumps out and also the fact that it's basically pure profit because he doesn't really have a team of people um or really any overhead it's it's streaming at a computer like he's shown what his game streaming setup looks like it's nothing really special there's lots of games but yeah aside from that um I mean I'm not I'm not going to be one of those guys that goes he doesn't deserve it because the reality of it is the way the world works is the people who figure something out and are clever enough to figure it out really well and be the best at something be number one at anything are going to be rewarded I'm not the number one YouTuber so I'm not going to get that massive enormous reward and I'm okay with that I'm not going to be all you know butt hurt oh he makes so much money I'm so unhappy um you know I I say I say good for him and people people are the the other people on the other side are pointing out that he has done uh charitable donations and you know raised money for worthy causes and all that stuff and you know I think that's great too I also don't think it necessarily you know validates if people make a ton of money and then they also raise money for charity I don't think that that I I don't think that should make people less upset about the disparity between the extremely wealthy and the extremely not wealthy um I just think it is what it is and um that number looks pretty realistic to me I I also wanted to dispel some myths so there are people out there who think that um you know Google AdSense on YouTube videos is like massive massive amounts of money um to put the to put things in perspective lineus Media Group if it relied strictly on Google AdSense I could pay each of the people here uh about $20,000 a year after their taxes and uh and after like Employment Insurance that's below minimum wage Pion pay yes yeah yeah that's well below minimum wage and we all work like massive overtime and we all work really hard I prefer the term really hard we work really hard gratuitous amounts of overtime I didn't stop working last night until like 2 a.m. the point is that that's not the way it works however if you do get those kinds of viewership numbers where you look at it and I think his view his numbers are like ridiculous like an order of magnitude and more higher than ours then it starts to add up especially if you don't have a ton of overhead another of the misconceptions that I encountered was that YouTubers get paid for subscribers YouTubers get paid exactly zero dollars for having a lot of subscribers the fact that I have $850,000 subscribers on a channel means nothing to Google nothing in terms of money it might mean something in terms of the inherent value of having someone who clicked and said yes I would like to hear from you when you some new content there there's a value there but it doesn't translate into money at all uh the money comes from the actual views so if you want to figure out how much a YouTuber is making relative to another YouTuber then you would look at views not at subscribers you could have a million subscribers and not be getting a ton of views like um someone like Peter chow and the revenue is probably not as strong there unless you know he's doing um really lucrative brand Integrations or things like that so that's how YouTubers are making the big bucks is doing things like um Devon super tramps Watchdogs uh Parkour in Real Life or whatever thing there's no way that Ubisoft didn't pay enormous buckets of money for that for example YouTube the like couple million views on YouTube were not going to be worth the effort of making that video some people started freaking out that our our minimum wage is so high just don't forget cost of living expense yeah Vancouver is an extremely expensive place place to live where we live has the 10 most expensive places to buy gas in all of North America so yeah it's kind of expensive food's expensive hous expensive and Foods houses isn't Vancouver also one of the most expensive I think it's like number two most expensive I think it's like after San Fran yeah something like that yeah it's ridiculous ludicrous it's expensive okay um well I I guess I'll show the results of the straw pole there so so looks like there are at least hundreds of you who would be interested in a black and orange Linus Tech tips themed fan for for 20 bucks um I'm still working on it I really hope that that's something that we can do it's nice of you guys to you know give me your your feedback here I really appreciate that I'm going to try and do it um and even if people don't buy them then that's that's great but um we can make forts out of them yeah we could we could make forts we could make a fan Throne fan Throne we have to make a fan Throne sometimes I just hate you we should try to make a channel super fun out of trying to make a quad copter out of not even a quadcopter not even anything infin opter I think we're done here guys um uh what what are your plans after the show I'm doing an Afterparty and I have no plans tonight so I'm doing an Afterparty for like are you playing Mario Kart cuz I want to play some Mario Kart you want to come play Mario Kart go down and play Mario Kart let's go down and play Mario let's go down and play some Mario Kart all right badass all right guys peace out thanks for watching the show we'll see you again same bad time same bad Channel next week and I hope that you also enjoyed the show as much as we enjoyed making it it was a blast and thank you to our sponsors Squarespace and then Highlander which is Intel Corsair and oh no isus yeah oh I I struggle so much the problem was cuz he was trying to go so fast and the other one is Intel with that sponsored live stream and the CPUs we're giving away stay tuned on Twitter for that it's going to be that's actually pretty cool freaking awesome and that's like you'll actually have a pretty good chance of winning those CP why is that in the way look at him clench he's dead are we ready to do this I actually love that bro fast I love it too the zoom in NOP my singing isn't even it's like not even close I don't even care\n"