The Art of Sliding the 964 with an Open Diff

As we embark on this journey to build and modify our 964 Porsche, I couldn't resist the opportunity to put its capabilities to the test. With an open differential, I knew that this car would be prone to sliding, especially when braking into a turn. My goal was to master the art of sliding the 964, and I'm excited to share my experience with you.

I started by putting the car into Tiptronic first gear and slowly releasing off the brake, feeling for any initial traction. To my surprise, it didn't quite cooperate as I had expected, but I persisted, determined to coax some life out of this sluggish machine. As I turned in, trying to induce a slide, I discovered that the rear weight was causing the car to understeer. Undeterred, I tried a little "trail breakage" technique, transferring my weight onto the front wheels and turning into the turn as I released off the brake. To my delight, it worked! The 964 slid beautifully, its rear end wanting to come around due to all the weight concentrated at the back.

I couldn't help but feel a sense of excitement and accomplishment as I successfully slid the car for the first time. This was exactly what I had hoped for – a unique driving experience that required finesse and skill. The understeer, however, made it difficult to maintain control, and I had to be careful not to get too aggressive or risk losing traction entirely.

Now, with this newfound understanding of the car's behavior, I'm eager to fine-tune my skills and push the 964 to its limits. Next, I'll need to work on developing a more sophisticated driving style that can harness the car's slide-inducing capabilities without putting it in harm's way. It won't be easy, but with practice and patience, I'm confident that we can unlock this car's full potential.

To help us achieve our goal, we've partnered with Ebay Motors to provide us with the necessary resources and support. Their partnership will enable us to dive deeper into the project, exploring new avenues of modification and optimization. We're excited to see what the future holds for this special car, and we're grateful for Ebay Motors' involvement in making it happen.

As I prepare to take the 964 out for a spin, I'm filled with anticipation. Will we be able to shave off precious seconds from our lap time? Can we overcome the limitations of the open diff and unlock the full potential of this incredible machine? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain – we're in for an exciting ride.

With the car ready to go, I put on my seatbelt, prepared myself for the experience ahead, and hit the road. As I accelerated down the straightaway, the 964's engine roared to life, its exhaust note echoing through the air. I floored it, feeling the wheels grip the asphalt as I hurtled towards the first turn.

The car was surprisingly comfortable, with supportive seats that cradled me in place as I navigated the twisty roads ahead. The steering was responsive, but I couldn't help feeling a twinge of understeer as I turned into each corner. The horn, which I had been warned about earlier, added to the overall ambiance of the driving experience, sounding like a train as it blared out its distinctive wail.

As I made my way through the course, I found myself enjoying the ride more and more with each passing lap. It was a strange sensation, one that I couldn't quite put into words – the 964's quirks were both captivating and infuriating at times, but ultimately, it felt like I was driving a unique and special machine.

For me, this experience has been about more than just building a car – it's been about connection with the driving experience itself. By embracing the imperfections of the open diff and learning to work within its limitations, I've developed a deeper appreciation for the intricacies of performance driving. And as we continue on our journey with this incredible car, I'm excited to see where it takes us.

That being said, one thing is clear – we're not going to be setting any land speed records in this 964 anytime soon! Its sluggish acceleration and tendency to understeer make it a handful at times, but I wouldn't have it any other way. As I put the car into park for the final time, I couldn't help feeling grateful for the adventure that had just come to an end – one that would stay with me long after we'd parted ways.

And as for Jimmy and his double-team of 964s? Well, that's a story for another day.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhe well after talking about it for almost 5 years now we finally have welcomed our first air cooled car to the family and it is a original mint green Porsche 964 that I shipped all the way over from Japan and unlike some of the other new cars I've unveiled over the past year or so this one's going to be different because we're going to be jumping right into the build right away and that's thanks to the support of eBay Motors who've officially sponsored this entire build now I'm not going to give you the full break down of the build right away but as you can imagine there's going to be a lot of new parts and a lot of used rare hardto find trinkets parts and dads will need to get this thing how I want it and with the breadth and depth of inventory at eBay Motors we'll have over 500 million parts to choose from globally which is going to let me build this thing however my heart desires you'll notice that the car is not perfect right now there's a little bit of grime and you can probably see some markings the car came from Japan and I actually purchased it over 6 months ago on my flight to the Ireland stop of the LZ World Tour if you guys have follow me for a while now you'll know that about 5 years ago I almost bought a turbo slant nose and I wound up getting my R34 GTR Instead at the time I wanted an air cooled car as an investment and the racer boy and me of course wanted a turbo because I wanted to go fast now over the past 2 years or so I'd say my desire to own an aircooled car has exponentially increased being surrounded by more of them with a lot of my friends from the GT3 World specifically Shawn building his aircooled hot rod everyone that I know in the Porsche world has been keeping their eyes out for me to find the perfect first air cooled car and although I really wanted a turbo everyone was pushing me towards getting a simple na 36 just to get my feet wet this is quite the car to get your feet wet with but I know it's one of those things I'm only going to learn if I have the car cuz it's going to actually make me dive in head first and this car is more than a perfect starting platform for that now there is a big issue I'm sure you can see by the title we'll get to that I promise that small or big issue whatever you want to call it is the reason why this car fell into my budget you guys know I like special cars a mint green 964 is about as rare as it gets so rather than getting a perfect boring color 964 I got a really cool one it's got something we got to address before we dive in deeper we're going to go over to my first reaction to the car cuz I literally just saw for the first time 30 minutes ago I wasn't planning on filming this but we're going to get my first reaction to the car I rode a roller coaster of emotions and been patiently waiting for it I did have someone look at it in person I did have really good photos sent to me of it but you never know so let's go look at it of course it's in the one row in this Warehouse that doesn't have lights it's very bright still we're going to go on the other side with light we're going to intentionally not look over it with a fine Toth comb I will always find a problem with a car it's one of my flaws I'm super super OCD I will say though once this car landed I got a photo of it and immediately the paint looked way better than I could have expected uh if you aren't familiar with 964 they're single stage they're not base clear which made me really nervous I guess you can always polish it out but here she is dude it it commands such presence in here I just want to run my hand over everything that's the first thing I want to do with a car is just like paint stuff if it's original paint which it should be which I'm I'm hoping it is then it's in really really amazing shape I'm right right now I'm looking for like chips and scratches and things that show age this car's got a story and we're going to we're going to figure it out and we're going to tell it for the world I don't know what the I'm I'm I'm very very excited about this has been a long time coming it looks very original to me you know with a with an old car you expect to see Swirls and scratches like if it was too perfect it would be a problem this looks like a car where that matches its age of swirls you know mhm but it looks like it's in really amazing shape like this this is a good sign the little crust that you find in these little Corners you know what I mean that only happens with age you can't fake that if this car was resprayed right before auction you wouldn't see that this is cracked that's okay I don't I don't even know I don't know anything about these cars so I don't even know how this is supposed to open or close that's probably how it broke just got an engine so these things are notorious for oil leaks I'm really really hoping that it not littered with oil leaks so I can just start to enjoy it right away oh this is my favorite part I want to have you do this this is my favorite part oh is it like the door click yeah it's really good is it good oh dude is it good the pop is good hell yeah oh that's dude it's springloaded baby oo that's nice interior oh dude it's going to recondition so nice this looks like someone used a lot of hair product I wonder if it was owned by a woman maybe it's very possible with this color I don't know what kind of dude would want a color like this it's really nice in here look at her I love it it's so bright what is her name thinman oh yeah so here's the thing I'm I'm putting this out there now this car is not getting wide bodied this car is not getting any sort of crazy kit this is not a wide Fender compared to if this car was a turbo therefore it is a narrow body and it is mint so we're calling it thin mint thin minty Dre I love that actually that makes sense wow wait you want to see my favorite part ready open the door open the door open the door isn't that great that was really nice close it isn't that great wow it's so good that is real nice it's like having a G wagon without having to have a G wagon you know yeah man I'm really stoked on this thing I haven't even looked at it in light yet I think I got to get it over to the shop oh found the first negative thing no what what what is that DVD what no really what is this this is the worst wiring I've ever seen and it's on a plank of wood that's not even mounted at anything yeah interesting this is the first negative of the car if that's the only negative wait is there a place to put the CD in there it's it's a navigation system does that mean it has one of the flip out screens probably yeah insert the seat the navigation I'm not looking forward to un that I about to say wherever this leads to that'll be fun yeah hey if that's the worst thing we're dealing with look at that my strut towers are the right color love that now if you're watching this and you are a very smart Porsche air cooled person I want to preface this with saying I know next to nothing about air cooled Porsches next to nothing about 964 and I have to give a massive shout out to my buddy Wes Wes has been like my personal air cooled consultant and as I've been looking at cars I've probably sent him hundreds of links asking bajillion questions and he's been very kindly guiding me in the right direction with the right car and with choosing the right parts from eBay Motors to get the build for this thing teed up so I can execute it quickly and have a lot of fun doing it now as we walk around I'm going to show you how little I actually knew about this thing I didn't know that this is how you open up the boot I did know that this is where the engine is and we have a beautiful 3.6 L naturally reaspirated engine I couldn't even tell you the horsepower numbers it's over 200 right would imagine yeah hopefully I'm going to have to Google it that's it's pretty pathetic but again like I learn by having things let's see okay I was going to guess 250 that's what Google says so I'm going to go ahead and say if it cracked over 200 on the dyno that's pretty cool this car is not a Speed Racer I'm not planning to make it a Speed Racer as I've gotten older and as I wind up driving more and more places with both Colette and the dogs I appreciate more of a car that's a Vibe than the car that's going to be the fastest thing in the world and this is 100% going to be the most vious car I've ever owned and we're going to have a lot of fun in it so back to my engine these things I do know are notorious for leaking oil I haven't spotted any drops yet yeah I'm I'd be lying to you if I didn't say I had plans for uh the engine but as a starting point the fact that it's not leaking any oil and it runs is probably a good thing and I guess this is a good time for me to mention although this car has a large problem it is very low mileage for 1991 it's got 78,000 km which is the equivalent of like 50,000 Mi that's low mileage territory for these things when I was looking at ones in the US I was just trying to get under 100,000 Mi so to have half of that is amazing this car did come from saporo Japan which made me very nervous that's very very North and Japan cars in the north and Japan are extremely Rusty so I was lucky enough to have someone put eyes on it and confirm that the car is legit but I personally have not put it on a lift yet we'll do that shortly and make sure that uh it's not a rust bucket but thus far just looking around the car I'm extremely happy with the condition of everything the paint looks legit it looks original there's a few tiny little like brush spots where Maybe um I don't know maybe there's like a little Nick and it kind of rusted through or something but I would rather have original paint that has a little bit of imperfections here and there then have a car that's been repainted not repainted perfectly and make me not fall in love with the car cuz that's what happens a lot looking around we got wheels okay these are actually pretty cool there's another wheel that these cars come on that I don't like as much they are 16s no this car will not be getting to e37s someone's going to grab that and then down the road when I put this car on te3 I'm not planning on it okay I'm not planning on putting this car on t37 this build is going to be a little bit different than other things we've done uh in the past the interior okay the interior is immaculate it's very beautiful the condition is amazing I believe these are the sport seats again I'm not a 964 expert hate on me if you want I'm going to learn and you guys are going to help me learn you're going to comment and be like how dumb are you those aren't Sports seats in the comments and then I'm going to learn and then I'll know for the future interior is really great shape um however interior is where we will first r the major problem of this car which is both why it was inexpensive and why I was more excited for this car opposed to others ready for it right here baby it's automatic I guess it's not that common in the US but for whatever reason there's actually quite a few of these cars that are automatic overseas this is technically a rest of world 964 that's what they call the cars that weren't USA based R but yeah this uh this made it significantly cheaper it's kind of expensive to manual swap but what I liked about the fact that it's automatic is manual swapping a car is like a low commitment mod that only adds value to the car what I didn't want to do is get a car like this that was already so good it really didn't need anything to be modded like I would I have no reason to drop the engine unless it was like really hurt or had lots of really bad leaks and that's kind of risky where this one's healthy it's low mileage but we have an excuse now to drop the drivetrain to eventually do a manual swap as you can imagine there are lots of things that will be needed for a manual swap some are still available new others uh have to come from a part out car and you have to purchase used but lucky for me eBay Motors has everything that we'll need and I'm excited to let you know that I've almost gathered every single part that we need to do this swap tomorrow that's not what we're going to do I'm going to enjoy the car and drive a little bit in automatic form for now but I was concerned about waiting on parts for months but that's not going to be the case overall like I said the interior is in really good shape I did just notice this is one other thing I didn't account for with the manual swap as is the Prindle gauge thing so I'll need to look at that but she's got a head unit um it's got a speaker cover that was broken I'm already in the process of super gluing cuz it was driving me nuts that little Rat's Nest of wires under the hood is going to need to be addressed I see it kind of poking through here in the foot well which is weird maybe it all has to do with this I haven't found a navigation unit but it said that it had navigation up front um overall though like these cars are old and the fact that the interior's in this good of shape I was going to save me a lot of headache because interior parts for these cars get pricey before I start modding this car I want to get a Baseline and typically we would do that with a lap around the compound right now there are RVs in the way so I'm going to come up with a modified lap where we can drive this thing extremely spirited I also want to see if I can slide around an automatic 964 because why not but before we do that I want to get the car on the lift give it a quick check over make sure everything is tight underneath safe also inspect if there's any rust or any underbody stuff that we should be worried about and then we can go have some fun with it I also should mention this car was graded a 4B which is pretty much the highest grade you'll get especially for for a car of this age um I guess you could it could be a 4 and 1/2 B but a 4B is pretty dang good so I'm expecting not to find any hidden surprises but you never know one thing that's not uncommon to me is putting a 911 on a lift and these cars are extremely rear heavy so uh when you put them on a lift you obviously want to move the car more forward than you usually would otherwise the car has a very easy tendency to rock back how good is this color I love it it literally like it just commands attention and presence to it I'm like usually a mint green hater just because I feel like I'm so used to seeing it on like modern cars that are wrapped and owned by complete my sentence for me um let's lift this thing up one of the things I always recommend you guys do whenever you're jacking up your car even if you're just changing the wheels tires whatever take your wheel go like this up and down no play side to side no play Go you can also give it a quick hit and see if you have any rattles that'll be a really quick and easy way to find out if you got a tie rod that's going out any loose suspension joints ball joints suspension arms uh the best thing to do is just move it around and have a friend on the other side or vice versa and check to see what things are moving and what things aren't moving and then you can figure out what's wrong without having to take your car to a shop in my case I'm doing it because I don't want the car to fall apart when I start driving it very hard tires are actually in decent shape wow I'm so used to my all my old Japanese cars that I put on the lift and every ball joint's blown out this thing actually feels pretty solid not a single rattle yet yeah I'm impressed that's a really deep Tire Groove isn't it yeah I can feel like I can stick half my finger in there this is going to look beautiful once it's cleaned up mhm Factory blue undercoat yeah it's mint green Michael not blue all right should we go up and and see if this thing's a turd or if she's nice it's like what you said earlier if you don't know then you'll never worry about it so I shouldn't look underneath the car I should also add it's probably a good thing that this car is automatic not that this is like a Skyline where they were like beat on like crazy but I feel like with an automatic car it's more likely that it was less neglected you're nodding does that mean it's not Rusty the exhaust is a little rusty but you can't really see anything oh look at this oil mother fer oh she's covered is it how bad is it well looks like we'll be learning how to regas get a 36 out of an air cool 964 mint green from Japan oh Jimmy Oaks I'm calling you up bud you're tapping in for this one I feel like if it didn't have an oil leak that would almost be sketchy that would mean like they cleaned it yeah that's like that you know how rotary the ongoing joke is they always break and they never run and they Le oil the ongoing absolutely dog yeah everything is wrong with them yeah it's kind of the same thing with this except just the oil part you know um the good news is is uh it's usually just oil leak but who knows maybe this is for a long time you know it's not dripping there's no puddles do they catch on fire a lot hopefully not hopefully not this is this is a little rusty what's this what is this part up here it just looks like a shield the belly pan that holds the entire thing in I know Jimmy had the same y I can see it what is it that's my belly pan yeah it's basically like a cradle that holds the engine in oh yeah people do um people do aftermarket ones I think they call it the tin the engine tin yeah people do aftermarket ones that are uh like a plastic that looks really cool um instead of the metal see I know a little bit about 964 I was planning to replace that uh let's keep going underbody my pinch WS look mint Michael I ain't got none flat bottom I was looking for the drive shaft but doesn't have one of those either this looks crazy huh yeah I mean even okay so hear me out it's from northern Japan and it's not covered in black spray paint yes that's that's pretty impressive you know it may not be perfect but she's not hiding anything she's herself y thin mint is authentic she's a little weathered look how cool they put the casting with their name on it back in 1991 that's crazy this was a really nice car back in the day now it's a it's a overpriced nostalgic automobile that came before my time but for whatever reason I love them I think they look cool why I why I chose a 964 I think they're my my favorite they're my favorite non-s slant nose I really really really like slant noses but slant noses are the big bucks and a turbo sounds like more headache than I can deal with right now like reg gasing engine okay finding someone to rebuild a Porsche engine it's like some black magic science when they split the case and I don't know anything about that I don't know anyone that knows anything about that we're going to start simple but yeah no this thing looks pretty clean I'm pretty pretty happy with her people like to strip the factory cosmoline off these things I'll need to see some comments and see what you guys think about that it's a very polarizing discussion it even looks like some of the bolts were paint marked at one time it's pretty neat wheels are interestingly decorated they're like it's like they're rusted but they're not you see the color yeah it's like a coating yeah it's weird but it's the only thing that's coated like that all right guys so we'll be doing a dungon titanium exhaust on imagine the only damage we've found so far is the underside just looks like someone probably bottomed out a little bit maybe had a steep incline or something what's interesting though is this is scraped but the lip doesn't appear to be much scraped so maybe this piece was replaced yeah I also don't feel like the bumper is supposed to be arked up like this I could be wrong but I feel like it's supposed to be down a little bit more maybe maybe not she just looks like she's a little little sad a little frowny I'm going to take this off I don't like this first mod let's go I can't wait to clean it get all these little streaks and stuff off this car uh typically would have been here a lot sooner um I was very nervous after my 33 which was pretty much the most expensive Ive car that I've ever shipped from Japan got very damaged in transport a bunch of scratches and dents on the hood I was very nervous that the same thing would happen to this so I opted to send this over in a container but that was a much longer process than I anticipated and it actually wound up going on a ship and then sailing around in circles over in China and then getting transferred to a different ship for whatever reason I'm not sure why but I was very nervous the car did indeed though make it here so that's a good thing kind of bummed realizing that there's additional holes in the bumper I was hoping that it was just these guys but probably yeah those are big holes as I'm airing up the tires I'm getting a little bit closer look at the paint I haven't found any major scratches or dings on this car I'm going to go ahead and say it's possible I don't know for certain that this could be just like a one owner car that was just kept really well very very light scratches like I think this car is going to polish up and look ridiculous yeah like it's really good and like a paint job on a car like this would absolutely make this not a good deal if I had to do one so uh I was very much so banking on the paint on this being legit so I'm happy I think we'll be able to get away with some very very intricate touch-ups but this is the worst thing I found so far in the entire body which really isn't that bad no I love it if it was a little bit more past this Edge instead of being the outside edge but it's like if that's the worst thing we got a good car bro that is the longest dipstick I've ever seen I Mak sense why but holy moly I'm trying to do my diligence before I slide this thing around and make sure there's oil on it since that's the only thing that cools it just kidding air air cools it get it could be wrong but I think this is really low well I don't know what this is but based on where this is it looks like this is some sort of maybe it pulls cool air in through there and this boot is broken which might affect our cooling system also it looks like it's extremely low in oil so it's a good thing that we check uh the gauge in the car was reading low and sure enough this as well is low like right under the empty line so we're going to add a little bit so I did a new move you're supposed to check the oil with the car running I didn't do that so I overfilled it but luckily there's a gauge in the car so I knew immediately that I did that so now we're going to drain some and the drain bolt is in the side skirt I hope that's a drain bolt actually well maybe I'll drain it for somewhere else yeah that oil is really hot actually oh I'm burning myself ooh that hurt my friend warned me it's oil cooled the oil's going to be hot but I guess I underestimated a little bit we're okay though we're okay all right now there's a high likelihood that this thing has an open diff uh but regardless I will usually would do a lap first but seeing as I've never really thrown around uh one of these cars I'd like to get a feel for it first driving at its limit that way I don't go crash it because that would not be fun all right here goes nothing put it in Tiptronic leave it in first gear it's not as slow as it could be I have a big big feeling we're going to have an open death well does handbrake work maybe okay yeah all right uh the oldfashioned drifty didn't really work so we're going to see if we can get it to slide a little bit with some trail breakage if you don't know what that is you basically put the weight over the front of the car and then turn in as you release off the brake yeah that didn't really work try a little whe transfer see if I can get it to do a little slidy almost a little more commitment almost oh I did it woo that's pretty fun I did it oh this thing is so ridiculously slow all right you working that thing now this kind of rewarding all right all right all right right so I feel like we've mastered the art of sliding the 964 with an open diff the reason why I wanted to do this is cuz when I go to do a lap time this is actually how a lot of people crash like older 911s and stuff because of the rear weight when you break and turn in the rear end wants to come around because all the weight's back there so I was using that to my advantage little stinky yeah yeah it's it's pretty fun I'm just going to need to be a little careful it's very very under steer that could be the tires or the weight of the car probably a little bit of both do I feel confident in doing a fast lap no do I feel confident in driving a lap yes but the lap needs to be modified so I'm going to go close that all right so we've got our modified lap start to finish the main purpose of this is so we have a baseline after we modify the car how much its time improves all right here we go let's see what this puppy can do come on come on see if I can get a little rotation here nope oh we're moving so I forget it's only a four speed which explains why it's not cooperating that much with the gears well we're dancing we're dancing we're dancing our pants off and we're finished it's a very Lively car to drive but I think it's going to be way more fun when I can actually like select what gear I'm in it's a four-speed right now and it's automatic and it's open diff What time did to put down that will have absolutely no bearings on any other times we've done of the compound let's find out that a sturdy ass door you're a sturdy ass door you want feel this puppy can do you ready yeah yeah yeah all right ready God you don't need to seat Bel dude this thing's that slow all right ready yeah pretty good right it's it's honestly not terrible it's almost as fast as yourx it it probably can't imagine that'd be a good drag race it's very comfy I like these seats a lot actually it is it's a little Smokey in here too yeah you'll get that on these jobs thanks Jim bro this horn is crazy that it sounds like a train it sounds like you're in like downtown London this is what Jimmy would always do you got a double team it cuz you got two you know what's even funnier what is that you two could do that at each other now in both your 964 does Jimmy have that noise his sounds the same I don't I actually he's probably got widebody horns on his car I'm really excited to cruise with Jimmy this is like I was really really hoping to get this car in time for fall of last year like that was when how early was supposed to be here and I was praying that I'd be able to build this in time to uh go up to Connecticut with it and cruise with him in the fall but might just need to be a spring or summer or a next fall thing I want to give a massive thank you again to Ebay motors for partnering with me on this build because of them we're going to be able to dive into this so much faster I want to also add that while we're building this car we're also going to still be doing some stuff with Safari GTR I've got some stuff I want to do it once it gets home and I've got some places I want to take it so it might be like an alternating thing but I've got a few places I want to take this so we're going to start wrenching real soon and I hope you guys are as excited as I am it's been a long time coming I'm stoked this is a special car we're going to have a lot of fun with it oh I did it that's pretty fun\n"