2019 Honda Passport First Impressions; Ford's New Rewards Program _ Talking Cars #188
**Reliable Pickup Trucks: A Guide to Luxury Amenities and Infotainment Systems**
If you're looking for a pickup truck that combines reliability with luxury amenities, you're in luck. Our hosts discuss the importance of reliability when it comes to vehicles, especially since they'll be keeping their trucks for an extended period.
The 2009 to 2015 Toyota Tacoma is a great option to consider if you prioritize reliability. This crude pickup may not be refined or luxurious, but it's a great off-roader and fulfills the criteria of being reliable. However, its rough riding nature and noisy interior may not appeal to everyone.
Another option worth considering is the Honda Ridgeline, which is known for its reliability and ease of use. The first-generation Ridgeline may have an odd design, but it's a solid choice for occasional driving or light work around the house. While it doesn't come with modern infotainment systems like CarPlay, it's still a great option to explore.
However, if you're looking for trucks that offer luxury amenities and infotainment systems, you may need to look elsewhere. The Toyota Tacoma's head unit is a double din setup that can be upgraded with aftermarket radios, including wireless CarPlay adapters. This means that even an older truck can have modern technology installed.
**Leasing vs. Buying: What's the Best Option?**
Our hosts discuss the pros and cons of leasing versus buying when it comes to pickup trucks. While lease deals may offer a better initial purchase price, they can also limit your ability to customize your vehicle in the long run. Truck depreciation is relatively low compared to other vehicles, making it easier to sell or trade-in a used truck after a few years.
A 10-year-old Tacoma that's still worth $5,000 or $7,000 shows just how durable these trucks can be. If you're spending $15,000 on a used truck, you'll likely spend around $6 grand over the next decade, assuming it remains reliable. This makes buying a used truck a great option for those who prioritize reliability and won't need to upgrade frequently.
**Conclusion**
In conclusion, when it comes to reliable pickup trucks with luxury amenities and infotainment systems, there are several options to consider. The Toyota Tacoma and Honda Ridgeline may not offer the latest technology, but they're known for their reliability and ease of use. With aftermarket upgrades, even an older truck can have modern features installed. Leasing vs. buying is a personal decision that depends on your priorities and budget. By considering these factors, you'll be well on your way to finding the perfect pickup truck for your needs.
**Additional Resources**
For more information on our hosts' reviews and recommendations, check out the show notes. You can also visit their websites or social media channels to learn more about their favorite vehicles and automotive tips. If you have a question or topic you'd like to discuss, send it to TalkingCars@icloud.com. Our hosts are always happy to chat with our audience and provide expert advice on all things cars.
"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enOn this episode, we giveour first impressionsof the all-new 2019Honda Passport.Then, we discuss a newloyalty rewards programfor Ford owners.And finally, we answeryour questions, includingone that asks, is therereally a differencebetween all-wheel drive systems?Next on Talking Cars.Hey.Welcome back.I'm Keith Barry.I'm Jake Fisher.I'm Mike Quincy.And today, we've got a tonof stuff to get through.I'm really excitedabout the car that we'regoing to be talking about.We've got a reallyinteresting one on the track.But first, we're goingto talk about some news.Ford has added this new ownerrewards loyalty program.They announced that they'regoing to be debuting itin the near future.Now, details area little bit slim.But it's part ofthe FordPass app,which is open to peoplewho own Ford cars.And it sounds like it's goingto be kind of like a StarbucksRewards or like a CVS ExtraCare,one of these loyalty programs.And I'm interested in that.Because loyalty programs--I do stupid thingsbecause of loyalty--I'm the guy who takesthree segment flights justto get two extra miles so I canget a free cheese plate oncea year.So I'm curious asto-- we haven't seena car company do this.But almost everyone is comingup with these loyalty programs.So I mean, what do youfolks think of these things?Do you think it's going to work?Or, do you think it'sgoing to con people?Do you think it's a good deal?Well, it's not reallyactually a new thing.When we talked about thisstory, and I read the articlethat you provided,it reminded meof the GM BuyPower credit card.My father had one of those.And he accumulateda ton of points.And then he went outand bought a Volvo.Exactly.But I mean, I think a lotof these reward programs,it puts the burden kindof on the consumer.I'm part of the-- let's see.It's the Hilton Honors program.So I check into a hotel.And I'm supposed to get acertain number of points.And they always ask mefor my Honors number.And of course I don'tknow the number.And they have my name.And they have mycell phone number.They have my email address.And they say, well, if youdon't have your number,we can't credit your account.What?Are you going tomemorize your number?Right.So it's on me.So I don't know.To me, it doesn't--I don't really getinto this stuff.I write down the number on myphone so I have access to it.But I do have an issue withsome of these reward programs.Because I think youhit it right on.It's that it kind of forcesyou to make maybe a worsedecision because, oh, Iget points for this one,as opposed to kind of lookingat what your options are.So this is really kindof keyed into gettingservice and gettingrepairs and all of that.Yeah.And I've got to say wedon't know a ton about it.I reached out to Ford,and they promisedthey'd get me a littlemore information on it.But right now, it's justsort of preliminary.But it sounds like you'regoing to get pointsfor getting service done.So when it comesto service, if itdoes look like that'sreally what it's about,we have done research.And we've done surveysand looked about,where are people happiest whenthey get their service done?And it turns out it's notnecessarily their dealerships.I mean, obviously, if youhave your car under warranty,yeah, go to the dealership.It's free, yeah.But once you're out of there,and you're looking at that,you're better off actuallygoing to an independent shop.We find that people whogo to independent shopsfor their service and repairs,they're paying less money.They're happierwith their service.And actually, even whenwe look at the OEMs,when we look at theactual manufacturers,Ford isn't so hot in terms ofbeing happy with your serviceor repair there.So in fact, almost allof the independent shopsare actually going toyield better choices.So I am not one that goesand goes out of my wayand tries to getthe three stopovers.When I go, when I travel, Igo for the cheapest airline.And I'll save acouple hundred bucks.And even, I don'thave a card for them.And I think that'sprobably maybestill going to beyour best advice.I think it's theonly way I can haveany status in the world isI got my MileagePlus membernumber memorized.get the M&Ms.Yeah, yeah.You get the free--Nice.It's just funny how you gavethe example of your dad.I mean, my wife, back when weused to get a lot of couponsfrom the newspapers, shewould gather up her coupons.She'd go to the store.And sometimes, therewould be a mail-in rebate.And she'd say, I had a coupon.And they doubled the coupons.And I had a mail-in rebate.And it's actually free.Like, what did youwind up buying?You know, 27 poundsof wheat germ.Well, OK, are you really using--you're saving money, but--Do you like wheat germ?Well, nah.Not anymore, notafter the incident.Not anymore, after27 pounds of it.Yeah, yeah.My fiber intake is good.That's all we needto hear about that.Enough of that.So if you're looking to up yourfiber intake, talk to Quincy.Or the Ford app, I don't know.Yeah, the Ford app, stay tuned.Because we're going tolook into this more.Because to me, it soundslike the sort of thingwhere if you're gettingthe service done anyways,you might as wellearn some points.If someone's going togive me some coupons,I'm going to take them.But it sounds like don't go outof your way to try and becomean elite at your Ford dealer.You might be able to savehundreds actually goingsomewhere else.So don't worry aboutthe extra points.Yeah.All right.So moving on from Ford,we rented the new Passportfrom Honda.That's a name that'skind of returning.But it's an all-new car.It's an SUV.It's about 40 and change.We're going to be buyingone soon-- very, very soon.But this one, werented it from Honda.It's brand new.What is this?Doesn't Honda alreadyhave two SUVs?You can never have enough SUVs.That's what weknow in our market.That's why we callthis SUV fatigue.But yeah.Maybe it's our SUVfatigue because--Yeah, it's their--It's what people are buying.I'll give you that.But people-- America has a--and the only prescriptionis more SUVs.I've got a fever.The only prescription-- no,and it's every single segment.There's subcompact ones.There's medium large.There's everything.That's right.Honda actuallyhas more than two.There's the Honda HR-V,which is the tiny one.The HR-V.And then CR-V and then--Yeah, so now they've got four--the Passport and the Pilot.It should be the Passport RV.Yeah.Moving on.Yes.Yes.Passport's been revoked.Go ahead.So let's talk about what it is.So what is it?It's not a small SUV.It's not-- I mean, the midsize--here's what happened.The midsize SUVs,they kind of grew up.And everyone'slike, OK, we've gotto throw in a third row seat.So those are likethe Highlanders.The Highlander, the Pilot.And well, not everyoneneeds a third row seat.So they're like, OK, well,let's go come up with a tweener.It's not a small SUV,not a midsize SUV.And there are only a fewreally in the market.I mean, a Nissan Muranois a good example.The Ford Edge is an example.Yeah.The Santa Fe, right?And we're seeing-- andnow, well, the Santa Feis kind of right there now too.A tweener.I mean, it usedto be a three row.So it's like there's this newsegment that's kind of big,but it doesn'thave the third row.And I think we're seeing morecompetitors in that spot.So what do we think about this?Because I have some thoughts,and especially aboutthis particular car.But I mean, do you thinkit's going to sell?Yeah, of course,it's going to sell.Well, it seemslike any SUV sellsthese days, which is whymanufacturers are putting themout.That's what people are buying.I get that.For me, I reallyliked the Passportbecause it remindedme of the Ridgeline.This is one of myfavorite pickup trucks.It drives reallywell, a little noisy.Some of the controlsI'm not wild about.But to me, the combinationof the visibilityand the usability-- whatI love about the Passportis it has a pretty bigcargo hold, especiallyfolding down the rear seats.Now, in my household, mykids are bigger and older.So I'm almost neverutilizing a third row seat.That would not get alot of use in my house.I'm going to utilizethe cargo hold.For wheat germ.Exactly.Hey, if you takeit out of the box,you can put a lot in there.No, I actually really,really liked this vehicle.And it kind ofreminded me of a modernand more refined 4Runner.Because it's kind of likea wagon, no third row seat.But I mean, it doesn't havethe 4Runner's offroad chopsprobably.But I--It's supposed to look rugged.Yeah.I found this to be avery functional vehicle.I liked how it drove.But here's the thing thatI don't like about it.I mean, I looked at someof the measurements.And of course we doour own measurements.As far as cargo's concerned,you're talking about,oh, it fits so much morecargo than-- it onlyhas two more cubic feetof cargo space over CR-V.And a CR-V gets much,much better gas mileage.In fact, now we're going to doour own tests for fuel economyand give a morereal-world-- real-world--easy for me to say-- number.But looking atthe EPA estimates,it looks like the Pilot,the larger, three row Pilot,gets better fuel economythan the Passport.So it really makes you wonder,what is Honda doing with this?Yeah.Yeah.Look.I'm totally with you on this.I mean, it just--to me, the CR-V is avery functional vehicle.I mean, yes, it'scalled a small SUV.But there's nothingreally small about it.There's plenty of room.Especially if youfold down the seat,there's plenty of room in there.I don't think a lot ofpeople are filling that uplike, I need anextra two cubic feet.But to me-- let'stalk about what it is.I mean, you're right tocompare it to the Ridgeline.Because basically from the frontseats up, it is a Ridgeline.It's also a Pilot.They're very similar vehicleswith a different back.And to me, if I'm going todrive a vehicle that size,I like the Ridgeline.Because I have the option.I've got that open back.I can throw my bikes inthe back and dirty stuff.You can't fit a dogback there though.I don't have a dog.I have to put my dog in my--That's your first problem.But then if you-- or,if you have a Pilot,you've got the thirdrow seat if you need it.So you're actually gettingsomething for that extra size.Whereas this, itseems like you'regetting something bigger,but you're not reallygetting somethingfor that extra size.You're paying the fuel.And it's not cheap.But you're notgetting the function.You're not getting theadditional functionthat you might get with a pickuptruck bed or a three row SUV.And I think ultimately, thepeople who are looking at thiswould just be finewith a CR-V, whichis a nicer driving experienceand better fuel economy.So I'm not totallyconvinced about this size,whether or not it makessense for consumers.I do recognize people might wantsomething bigger because theywant it.But now we're gettinginto want versus need.And I'm not going tosecond guessAnd the last thing we need aremore sort of gas-guzzling carson the road, it seems like.I mean, look.For me, I'm a bigfan of the Ridgeline.I would love to geta CR-V Ridgeline.I would love that.A smallish pickup.Oh my god.I mean, that wouldsuit my needs.But it's not asrough-and-tumble, of course.Right.Well, yeah.And that is partof the sales pitchfor the Passport isthat it looks rougher.It has the body cladding.It's supposed to look alittle more aggressive.But on Jake's point, wejust had a moment of silencefor the Subaru Baja.Oh my gosh.But that-- well--A small pickup truck?But that was a bedthat was kind of like--Right.You could almostfit a grill in it.Right.But that's the firstthing I thoughtof when you said a CR-V pickup.I was like, oh, theBaja, I remember that.Right.sure.Anyway.In any color you want aslong as it's bright yellow.I'm going to design--we're going to startdesigning our own cars.Because I want--maybe I want a GTIwith four doors and then a bed.I mean, Volkswagen usedto have the pickup trucks.Body by Jake Fisher.There we go.We're designing our own cars.We're going to wind upwith a Homer-mobile.No one would buy them.Yeah, find the graphic ofthe Homer-mobile, guys.All right.We've run out of things to say.Let's go to you.We very clearly need your help.So Dave Abrams, canyou roll the video?We need a question here please.My question is, how long doesgasoline maintain its octanelevel once it's in your tank?And if it takes you,say, three monthsto go through a wholetank, is that long enoughto consider moving up an octanelevel to avoid potential engineknocking and other problems?Mark, great question.Thanks for sending in a video.We actually have a lotof video questions today.And if you want to be on TalkingCars with a video question,send it toTalkingCars@icloud.com.That's how you becomeas famous as we are, sofor whatever that means.So let's get to your question.So if it takes a long timeto get through a tank of gas,should you move upan octane level?Octane, is that really whatwe're talking about here?No.I mean, first ofall, the time framethat he's talkingabout you reallydon't have to worry about.You're talking about a yearuntil you're really concernedabout old gas.But also, octane iskind of a weird thing.I mean, octane--to a lot of people,it's like higher octaneis better or more pure.It doesn't work like that.A higher octane actually meansit's more resistant to burning.So it's not even a--It's not like grades of meat.Yeah, right.Grades of wheat germ.Yeah, it's not like AAA prime.Or how pure your vodka is orthe percentage of alcohol.It's not like that.Oh, new testing by us.Sorry, go ahead.So that's not really a concern.Older gas, you couldget where it gums up.And there's otherissues that wouldbe associated with it, butnot in this time frame.I wouldn't worryabout it at all.And I wouldn't moveup to a higher grade.And what about someone who hasa car sitting for even longer?They're going awayfor the winter.Or maybe someone whohas a plug-in hybrid,and that gas is sittingin there for a long time?Well, that's actuallywhat I thoughtthis question was about.I thought that this personwas describing their ChevroletVolt where they hardly everutilize the gas engine.And it turned outit was an F-150.Well, look.I mean, if you're going to havethe car sit for over a year,now you're really concerned.There are productslike fuel stabilizers.And you put some fuelstabilizer in your tank.And that'll makesure that it doesn'tdegrade or anything like that.But again, it's noteven an octane issue.It's more about gumming up.Yeah, moisture in the tank.It's kind of like anyone who hasa snow blower or a lawnmower.They put some fuelstabilizer in it.Because you're not--you're going to put it awayfor a year or whatever.It's the same kind of thing.But putting premiumin your lawnmower'snot going to help you.Yeah.That makes sense.All right.Second question.Hey there, Talking Cars.Just sitting here frommy new Genesis G70.I absolutely love it.And with theeight-track system, Iconsider it a great winter car.Now, I was watching a review.And this reviewer saidthat Consumer Reportssaid the Subaru Impreza had thebest all-wheel drive system.So I was wondering, how does itcompare to the Genesis system?What are the differences?And who makes the betterall-wheel drive systems?Thank you.So he loves the G70.We liked it.You drove the G70last night in our sortof first little snowstorm.Yep, yep.So what do you think?Well, so first ofall, getting into whomakes the best four-wheeldrive or all-wheel drive,there is some facts.In fact, in terms of Subarus,we have done some surveys.And we have asked peopleabout their experienceswith their vehicles.And lo and behold, peoplewith Subarus are like, wow,this is really,really impressivein the snow, not whenthey're using snow tires.Now, how much ofthat is the factthat Subaru's advertisingis essentially,you are really special.You are driving a Subaru.It is all-wheel drive.The beauty of all-wheel drive.You are a Subaru owner,and really hitting youover the head.I mean, do these people-- now,they sort of self-identify as--Well, obviously it's a bigdeal when you get a Subaru.I mean, how many vehicleswhere virtually everything isall-wheel drive, otherthan a sports car?But the truth is that thereis mechanical reasons whySubaru's all-wheel drive isdifferent from most vehicles'all-wheel drive.So most all-wheel drive vehiclesare basically front-drive cars.And when there'ssome slipping, theythrow some power in the rear.That's how mostall-wheel drive works.That's not a bad thing.Because it preventsyou from gettingstuck if there's some slipping.In fact, the all-wheeldrive Prius is coming out.And that's all-wheel drive.But you know what?It actually doesn't do anythingabove 45 miles per hour.It's just basically to help youmake sure you don't get stuck.Now, when it comes to Subaru,they actually-- the waythey're designed, it's actuallypower to all the wheelsbasically all the time.So this is what they call theirsymmetrical all-wheel drive?Right, right.And it's actually moresimilar to a vehiclelike the G70, which is basicallya rear-drive-based vehicle.So it's not-- the G70, again,is not one of these systemswhere it's onlyfront-wheel drivesand then throw some in the back.It's actually more balanced.But, again, what areyou using it for?I mean, when you're talkingabout all-wheel driveand four-wheel drive systems,you're not going downthe Rubicon with a G70.Generally, any ofthese systems aregoing to get youwhere you need to go.And they're going to help a lot.But more importantlyis probably--But it's all about tires.It's all about tires, right.Yeah.And this is one of yourfavorite things to talk about.Well, I mean, no question.Certainly living herein the Northeast,we get questions from friendsand neighbors all the time.I need all-wheel driveand blah blah blah.And a lot of times,they just thinkthat's going to savethem from anythingthat happens in the winter.But we've all driven cars likethe Mitsubishi Evo, the SubaruWRX STI, the Audi TT, which hasall-wheel drive but performancetires.They're absolutelyuseless in the snow.I mean, I'd much rather havea front-wheel drive vehiclewith all-season or wintertires than a performance carwith those kinds ofrubber on the road.I mean, my brother-in-law hadan early 2000s Nissan Maxima.And he said, oh, it'sa terrible snow car.It's not the car that makes ita terrible snow car, per se.Yeah.So I mean, veryspecifically, you're right.It's about tires.So I don't care what kindof all-wheel drive systemyou have.None of them are goingto help you stop.That's about your tires.And that's about your grip.And on the G70, be careful.Because the highertrim models actuallycome with summer tires.So I don't care if youhave all-wheel drive.But if you're going to try tohit the brakes with just summertires, it ain'tgoing to be good.Right.Yeah.All right.Question answered.Let's move up to another one.Hi, Talking Cars.This isfrom California.I really love yourshow with the insights.Mike Quincy's my favorite.I had a question aboutadaptive cruise control.The one on my Honda Civic, whichcame with a sensing package,I find it both not smooth orreliable in low speed trafficwhere I need itthe most, when I'min bumper-to-bumper traffic.Can you recommend the bestadaptive cruise control outthere?My friends tell me Hyundaiand Kia make much better ones.Please comment.Thank you.Well, you're the favorite.So why don't youanswer this one for us?I guess the check thatmy wife sent you cleared.I don't know.Thank you.That was very, very kind.I'm working on it.I'm working on it.Yeah.I imagine that his car probablydidn't have the stop-and-go,semi-autonomous system with--I love adaptive cruise control.I use it all the time.I think they haveevolved over time.I think when they firststarted coming on cars,you'd be in a line of traffic.And you'd look to your left,and you see an opening.And you pull out.And the adaptive cruise says,look at that, open road.Floor it.And the engine starts wailing.And you're like, oh my gosh.I think that the way thatthey come back up to speedare getting a bit more subtle.But I mean, Jake, you've hada lot of experience testingthe semi-autonomous systems.And this probably isn'texactly what he's referring to.Well, first of all, there areno semi-autonomous systems.There's automation.So these are automated systems.And ACC, automatic--I'm going to get theterminology wrong.Adaptive cruise control.Adaptive cruise control.Thank you, sir.This is what we'retalking about.And the truth is that there aredifferences with these systems.Now, it's a little bit--Mike is exactly right.In terms of thestop-and-go functionality--That's twice in one podcastI was exactly right.I'm not sayingyou're my favorite.Right, exactly right.I'm just the host here.But look, stop-and-go,yeah, absolutely.That makes these systems nicer.Because if you're using thissystem, and all of a sudden,it bombs out when you hit20 miles per hour and says,beep beep beep, take over,it's not the full package.And these systems make--as someone who used to--at one point, I had an hourcommute in stop-and-go traffic.And these systems madelife so much easier.Absolutely.I mean, just-- but thedifference is also they performdifferently--they're just allprogrammed differently.It's not that necessarilysome are better than others.I think some-- traffic isdifferent in different places.And in California, yourstop-and-go trafficmight be different than yourNew York stop-and-go traffic.And look.I mean, none of thesecan really tell--read your mind.So we have done plenty ofsurveys on systems like this.And there are justas many peoplecomplaining about they'retoo slow to react to,they're too abrupt to react.So they don't know ifyou're in a hurry or not.And you can't makeeveryone happy.So you can't makeeveryone happy.But the truth is that stop--look for a systemthat has stop-and-go.Also, don't assumethat all Hondasystems work like this or allToyota systems work like this.Because the truth is thatthe technology is evolvingso quickly that differentvehicles in that lineup,different models mayoperate differently.Different trims in that modelmight operate differently.And different years, theymay change the technologyand how they operate.So if this is something thatyou're really interested in,take a test drive.Try to operate it.See if it's goingto suit your needs.And look for onethat has stop-and-go.Yeah.Narrow it down tothe cars that youwant to buy in thefirst place regardless.And then go outand take these carson the roads you'regoing to be driving--and in traffic.I'm sure the salespeoplewill love that.Absolutely.Features like this make--your list of wants when you gonew car shopping seems to getlonger and longer these days.Because cars keep gettingbetter and better.And certainly for me,if I were to buy a car,I would definitely wantadaptive cruise control.Because it's not standard oreven available on every car.Yeah.So test it out.And don't discount allHondas just because you don'tlove the way that yours works.So good question.Let's move on to another one.Question for you guys.I am looking for a pickup truck.Looking to spend about$15,000 to $20,000.Not looking for anyparticular size.My main concernsare reliability.I'm looking for luxuryamenities like climate controlas well as goodinfotainment system.Apple CarPlay would be great.I'm looking to keep thecar for a long time.And I don't--I work from home.So I don't drive too much.So yeah, looking for somesuggestions and your opinionson what I should focus on.And yeah, again, keepup the great work.Have a good one.All right, Joe.It sounds like you have alot of things that you want.So let's narrow it down.Pickup trucks,right up my alley.Great question.I would say if reliability--I think you mentionedthat as being oneof the most important things.I would say definitelylook at the 2009 to 2015Toyota Tacoma, which is reallyreliable, great offroader.This is a crude pickup.This is noisy.This is rough riding.There's nothingrefined about this.There's nothingluxurious about this.But it does kind offulfill the criteriathat you're talking about.If the Tacoma is a bittoo rough for your tastes,I would look at a 2009to 2014 Honda Ridgeline.We love the Ridgeline.We keep coming back tothe Honda Ridgeline.And it sounds likewhat he-- it'soccasional driving, but mostlya little work around the house.Right.And this is kind of an easyto live with pickup truck,very reliable.Not everyone issold on the styling,first-generation Ridgeline.I thought it was like, mm,it's a little odd looking,which I don't thinkhelped Honda selling them.So finding a lotof used Ridgelinesmight be more of a challenge.Now, what aboutthe infotainment,and the CarPlay, andthe stuff that he said?You're not going toget that in those cars.No, you're not.But what's interesting isyou had mentioned the Tacoma.And the Tacoma, that generationTacoma is a vehicle that'sbeen around forever.So I mean, it doesn'tdrive very nice.But again, it's old, whichmeans a couple of things.One, it means, no, youdon't have the technology.But, two, it is super reliable.I mean, it's a vehicle thatyou could fix it with a rockif it ever falls apart.But one thing is the head unit.So the head unit is kindof where the radio goes.And in almost allnew cars now, it'skind of like thisflatscreen displaythat pops out of the dashboard.But this older truck is actuallywhat they call a double din.So it's actually aradio that slides out,which means you couldget an aftermarket radioand put in yourlatest technology.And actually, if you goto an aftermarket radio--so if you're interestedin CarPlay, for instance,you could get wirelessCarPlay, which is something--Which only like BMW has now.Right.So you could actuallyhave better technologyin your old pickup truck thanvirtually any of the carshave today.And my 19-year-oldson has adaptersfor his phone in our 2002Camry and our 2006 Subaru.So yeah, you cando an end around,with this technology thing.Now normally, I say if you'relooking for all those thingsright away that youlease instead of buy.Because there are some insanelygood lease deals on trucks.But that's because truckstend to not really depreciatethat much.And that's especiallythe case with the Tacoma.And I mean, Ilooked at-- you canget a 10-year-old Tacoma thatis still worth $5,000 or $7,000.So if you're spending$15,000 for a 2009 to 2015,you're going to be able tosell that car after 10 years.And you will have spent maybesix grand owning this thing,especially if it's reliable.So yeah, I'd haveto agree with you.I'd have to agree with you.Well, I hope thatanswers your question.I hope we answered allyour questions today.If you want to learnmore, because we'rekind of time-limited here,go to the show notes.And you'll find links to all ourreviews and more information.And if you have aquestion for us,send it toTalkingCars@icloud.com.We've got a lot of questions.But we're steadily workingthrough the backlog.So we haven'tforgotten about you.Thanks so much.We'll see you soon.\n"