**The Delicate Handling of the BMW Z4**

This car is surprisingly delicate to drive, especially considering its price point. At first glance, it may seem like just another M2 competitor, but trust me, it's not that easy to handle. The setup I was given, which I'm assuming was a compromise on performance and handling, still managed to get into the corners, albeit with some hesitation. However, as soon as you lean on the front end or lift off the gas, the car's behavior changes dramatically. It's almost like it's playing a game of musical chairs, where all the cars are competing for the attention of its driver.

The rear end is notoriously tail-happy, and even with the addition of a four-popper exhaust system, it doesn't become less agile. But when you add the six-cylinder engine to this car, it's like throwing a wrench into the works. The extra torque and power would make the rear end even more unstable, turning what was already an oversteer-prone car into an absolute handful. I'm not sure if I'd want to mess with that combination.

However, let's talk about something more important: driving dynamics. Nobody gives a flying fig about this stuff, but I'm here to tell you that it matters. The way the body controls itself, how it handles bumps and potholes, and even the noise level inside the cabin – these are all crucial aspects of an enjoyable driving experience.

In terms of comfort, I was pleasantly surprised by the quietness inside the cabin, even with the top up. It's like a cocoon that protects you from the outside world, making it perfect for long road trips or everyday commuting. The damping profile is well-balanced, neither too soft nor too hard, providing a comfortable ride without sacrificing any of the car's agility.

Of course, no one wants to hear about the little problems that can arise, like washboarding on certain types of pavement. But let's be real; for a car like this, at its price point, it's not the end of the world. You won't be taking this car out onto the racetrack and pushing it to its limits every weekend. It's designed to be practical, reliable, and fun to drive.

One thing that did surprise me was how comfortable I felt driving this car, even when I wasn't trying my best. There's a sense of security and stability that comes with knowing you've got a good BMW under the hood, which makes it perfect for puttingter drivers like myself. Sure, it might not be as fast as some other cars on the market, but who needs straight-line speed when you can have a smooth ride and a comfortable cabin?

As I drove around in this car, I couldn't help but feel a sense of BMW-ness that's hard to find elsewhere. It's like they took all the good qualities of their other models – the M3, the 4 Series, even the X5 – and distilled them into one package. And for sixty thousand dollars, it's an absolute steal.

Of course, there are those who would say that BMW doesn't care about this car as much as they do about their other products. Maybe they're right. But I think they're missing the point. This car might not be a rocket ship, but it's still a great driving machine that delivers all the things you want from a BMW.

**The Real Stuff: Noise and Comfort**

Nobody gives a flying fig about noise levels when buying a new car, but let me tell you, this one is spot on. Even with the top up, I barely noticed the outside world around me – it's like being in a bubble of silence that's both soothing and refreshing.

But what really surprised me was how comfortable I felt inside the cabin. It's not just the quietness; it's the overall sense of luxury and refinement that comes with driving a BMW. The materials, the stitching, the design – everything feels premium and well-made. And even when you're driving hard, like when I broke the speed limit and ended up in a 45 on a County Road, there was no creaking or groaning to be heard.

Of course, like any car, it's not perfect. The damping profile can be a bit finicky at times, and some of the washboarding might still find its way through, even with the softest setting. But for a car like this, I think that's a small price to pay.

In conclusion, the BMW Z4 is a great driving machine that delivers all the things you want from a BMW – the comfort, the quietness, and of course, the performance. Sure, it might not be as fast as some other cars on the market, but who needs straight-line speed when you can have a smooth ride and a comfortable cabin?

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enlaughs the BMW Z4 this is vehicle that we've already done a video on much like the Toyota Supra and if you've seen those videos you'll know that BMW split the development money with Toyota to make this it's made in magnesny or not in one of their typical BMW factories and this was the first time that BMW had a that made a dedicated sports car platform for driving because everything else they made is shared with the 3 Series sedans they're all sedans turned into sports cars they're all like SUVs turned into sports cars so I wanted to talk about why this thing has kind of been left behind and why they haven't really put as much development budget into this compared to like the SUVs like the XM or The IX and I think the straight answer is not a lot of people buy this and they weren't all that committed to it in the first place and it's sad because there's so many good things about it price aside when you look at the outside it's one of the more unique looking BMWs on the road it has a longer Hood line it doesn't look as over styled and when you you get on the inside Space of this you'll see right away much like the old school z3ms it's got a very purposeful interior the door panels are covered in more durable materials so you can drive and Ankle them at weather including the dashboard and the benefit of this is it's more simple on the inside it's using some of their best technology from the previous generation all the knobs buttons and switches are physical you have iDrive 7 here you have all physical HVAC controls and you know exactly how to use this car and it's very comfortable for it when you have the top down you don't even know you have the top down there's no wind buffeting and there there's just a high sense of quality that you don't get from a lot of convertibles in this price range granted it is very expensive I'm sitting in one with a four cylinder with the m packages and some other things around 64 000 and that's without the inline six so you're going to wonder why you would buy this and I have to wonder why BMW has not given this any attention even when they launched it there was like no Fanfare and it's a car that is vastly underrated I really love driving this car you forget about it and you get behind the wheel you know that BMW knows how to do this it's just kind of sad that you know I haven't done more with it but let's head in the shop we're going to talk about that Mark we're in the shop with a 2023 BMW z430i they made a couple changes for this model here and all of it is packaging so on the 40i and the 30i the sport package comes a standard that's an appearance package there's some unique exterior trim pieces like the shadow line package and they've changed some other bits and bombs but this is essentially the same car since they launched it and this is still built by Magnus Tire the same people who build the Supra and the super on this were co-developed at the same time however the individual chassis tuning the design and some of the other finer details were done by the respective oems is this the type of car that I'm going to take my 70 year old girlfriend out for drinks with or yes this is Mark this is a GT car even though this is technically on clar or sports car clar this was not designed to be an M vehicle this is designed to be a fun open top convertible car that BMW forgot existed yeah well they said that this is going to be their first dedicated sports car chassis that they had and they didn't do a whole hell of a lot with it Jack but they've sure done a lot with their SUVs like the BMW XM which is a masterpiece so I guess we should take this for a drive and just see what oh no Mark I got to tell these people about some of the finer mechanical bits really quickly this is a strut front though this is BMW's multi-link strut it's a multi-link rear end not a strut it's got two wishbones top and bottom this has the optional handling package just means it gets adaptive dampers and a locking rear differential this is powered by the b48 and makes 250 foot-pounds of sorry it makes 250 horsepower about 300 foot pounds of torque and if you option this out with God's engine you can get the 50. and that is you know that's the way to go it makes how much room does it have for my Red Lobster tape all right Mark let's go take this for a drive I had a dream that was a dream that I somehow got trapped into being a body replace a body donor for transference of consciousness they had to dismember me and transfer my Consciousness into a cyborg like an Android body so I had to be killed and transferred that was your dream this was the dream and I was trying to get out of it and I couldn't I was forced into doing it and the guy that was in charge like had me in a cell like a room and this dude was walking around with no shirt on the whole dream and I was so desperate to get out of this it was like going on for four hours me trying to figure out how to get out of this cell yeah take a right we lose and finally I'm like I went to the game I'm like look I'll do anything else oh man I didn't think you could do that with a four-cylinder Jack oh don't worry Mark the reason this is possible is it's related to the b-58 this is the b48 oh I see look this is a car that BMW basically forgot about there's no marketing on it they there was no marketing when it launched like hey what'd you guys do uh we made it they all I just got an email back with a duplicate copy of an AARP card the sad part about this car is it like it has this waft of like you know if you're from Illinois like Lake Forest or you're from the East Coast The Hamptons it's got this like old rich like stodgy dude like taking out his wife who's the same age as him and they're gonna go for Olive Garden yeah for all of our upscale Olive Garden dinner but the sad part is if that's what you think about this car you're missing the fact that it's probably one of the most natural Dynamic Vehicles BMW currently sells it's light it's not overly tail happy despite all my sideways just then and it's you know it's a good driving car it's a really good driving car you know one of the things obviously we're in the floor popper and this is let's get this out of the way it's way too much money for what it is like 64.64 and you could probably honestly get this for like 60 if you trim out some of the fat but at 60 000 for a four-cylinder automatic BMW you know you look at the the C8 you look at the Z we just got out of the rusting um there's a lot of really compelling options but clearly you're not buying this as an Enthusiast product that's not what it's marketed as it's marketed towards you want a convertible a quiet convertible that has less buffeting with the top down than the Supra does with its windows open and you get really really good solid driving Dynamics and I know you brought it up and I'm rambling on but this is one of those few cars with the four cylinder the power to weight is so balanced it feels like when you break the back end rotates and if you get back on the throttle it doesn't spin itself like the inline six so I really love the way it dries but they just don't care about it any more than that like you're gonna buy this if you're older you want a convertible it's a great car it has the older traditional BMW on the inside there's no gimmicks it it's just why would you spend this kind of money on it yeah I I that's that's the hard part like I I tell the story all the time but many years ago when we first drove this was at an autocross for Mama which is like the Midwest press Association around the autocross course this was faster than an M2 comp at least the one they set up because this would get into Corners you could lean on the front end you could lift to get it to rotate and you can get back on the gas and wouldn't it wouldn't just do this giant oversteer moment it's a very surprisingly delicate driving car for a BMW product I just think if you're going to spend 60 000 you just buy the b-58 brand yeah the six and then you would then be fighting the rear end and this car is tail happy obviously with the four popper it's not tail happy understanding you don't have enough torque to overwhelm the back end but when you had this if you you know you added the six to this I'm sure this is going to be all over the place it just turns into an absolute that's what I love about the four cylinder in here is yeah it's Nerf but but it was really really stable um but let's talk about the real stuff nobody gives a about the driving Dynamics in this that's not why you're buying it let's talk about the body control how it actually handles the noise like how is it is it a noisy cabin when you're driving we're I mean we have the top up because you know we're trying to do this drive commentary but we're sitting at 65 miles an hour right now on like a County Road and it's perfectly quiet in here yeah it is really it's also really comfortable I think I know you have some problems with the damping profile but for a car like this you know if you're just gonna be a putter like let's say we got done with the track you're outside all day in the Heat or something or you're doing a real job or you're you're scorched you can get in here and you don't even know it's a convertible with this top the way it is and it does not beat you up even in the softest and the hardest setting it's a really good balance between the two you can feel a little bit um it's not quite cow Shake but you can feel like the body struggles to absorb some of the impacts yeah but I mean I'm being hyper critical there's some washboard into it you know and there's you feel a bit of a heave over you know ex you know different types of pavement transitions between concrete and blacktop um and there is some washboarding but to me for a car like this it doesn't really I don't think it's that bad no uh this is a for the the price point the car is at if you say you got one at sixty thousand dollars and you weren't looking for that be all end-all like straight line speed car you wanted a GT you wanted to have some of the bmwness the positive customer experience through dealers and you know well sorted out interior and a car that's very fuel efficient for me and I've been driving this thing like an I've been getting like mid-20s I'm sure you could easily get high 20s low 30s in this all day long it's a good car really BMW it's a shame they sort of let this thing just fall they don't care about it they care about it this thing as much as they do like an X1 I think it's just they they got it out and they're just like it'll run its life cycle and be done with it yeah we fulfill their obligations so you know they can build the Supra yeah and that's it yeah that's I guess that's a good place to leave it Jack all right Mark hey Bruce just got my eyes dilated cataracts are acting up again but that's no drama in this car I've driven it hard I've driven it soft I've taken my lady friends on it and I've also done some things in there I'm not proud of like breaking the speed limit going 47 in a 45. that's what I'm doing in the Z or the Z4 it's a Z4 right yeah Z4 so this four cylinder delivers tremendous horsepower and fuel economy it's quiet it's comfortable does everything you want with the top down you feel like you're the king of your town until you're not until a C8 Corvette pulls up and rubs his engine and You Hear The Sweet Sound of American V8s and you realize you're subhuman and you're going to give up on life and that's a lot of what this car seems to be like in sense of BMW that just it could be so much more because it feels so good in so many ways it's just that little carrot that they Dingle dingle dangle out in front of your nose to make you think oh man but at the end of the day you're gonna buy a BMW SUVlaughs the BMW Z4 this is vehicle that we've already done a video on much like the Toyota Supra and if you've seen those videos you'll know that BMW split the development money with Toyota to make this it's made in magnesny or not in one of their typical BMW factories and this was the first time that BMW had a that made a dedicated sports car platform for driving because everything else they made is shared with the 3 Series sedans they're all sedans turned into sports cars they're all like SUVs turned into sports cars so I wanted to talk about why this thing has kind of been left behind and why they haven't really put as much development budget into this compared to like the SUVs like the XM or The IX and I think the straight answer is not a lot of people buy this and they weren't all that committed to it in the first place and it's sad because there's so many good things about it price aside when you look at the outside it's one of the more unique looking BMWs on the road it has a longer Hood line it doesn't look as over styled and when you you get on the inside Space of this you'll see right away much like the old school z3ms it's got a very purposeful interior the door panels are covered in more durable materials so you can drive and Ankle them at weather including the dashboard and the benefit of this is it's more simple on the inside it's using some of their best technology from the previous generation all the knobs buttons and switches are physical you have iDrive 7 here you have all physical HVAC controls and you know exactly how to use this car and it's very comfortable for it when you have the top down you don't even know you have the top down there's no wind buffeting and there there's just a high sense of quality that you don't get from a lot of convertibles in this price range granted it is very expensive I'm sitting in one with a four cylinder with the m packages and some other things around 64 000 and that's without the inline six so you're going to wonder why you would buy this and I have to wonder why BMW has not given this any attention even when they launched it there was like no Fanfare and it's a car that is vastly underrated I really love driving this car you forget about it and you get behind the wheel you know that BMW knows how to do this it's just kind of sad that you know I haven't done more with it but let's head in the shop we're going to talk about that Mark we're in the shop with a 2023 BMW z430i they made a couple changes for this model here and all of it is packaging so on the 40i and the 30i the sport package comes a standard that's an appearance package there's some unique exterior trim pieces like the shadow line package and they've changed some other bits and bombs but this is essentially the same car since they launched it and this is still built by Magnus Tire the same people who build the Supra and the super on this were co-developed at the same time however the individual chassis tuning the design and some of the other finer details were done by the respective oems is this the type of car that I'm going to take my 70 year old girlfriend out for drinks with or yes this is Mark this is a GT car even though this is technically on clar or sports car clar this was not designed to be an M vehicle this is designed to be a fun open top convertible car that BMW forgot existed yeah well they said that this is going to be their first dedicated sports car chassis that they had and they didn't do a whole hell of a lot with it Jack but they've sure done a lot with their SUVs like the BMW XM which is a masterpiece so I guess we should take this for a drive and just see what oh no Mark I got to tell these people about some of the finer mechanical bits really quickly this is a strut front though this is BMW's multi-link strut it's a multi-link rear end not a strut it's got two wishbones top and bottom this has the optional handling package just means it gets adaptive dampers and a locking rear differential this is powered by the b48 and makes 250 foot-pounds of sorry it makes 250 horsepower about 300 foot pounds of torque and if you option this out with God's engine you can get the 50. and that is you know that's the way to go it makes how much room does it have for my Red Lobster tape all right Mark let's go take this for a drive I had a dream that was a dream that I somehow got trapped into being a body replace a body donor for transference of consciousness they had to dismember me and transfer my Consciousness into a cyborg like an Android body so I had to be killed and transferred that was your dream this was the dream and I was trying to get out of it and I couldn't I was forced into doing it and the guy that was in charge like had me in a cell like a room and this dude was walking around with no shirt on the whole dream and I was so desperate to get out of this it was like going on for four hours me trying to figure out how to get out of this cell yeah take a right we lose and finally I'm like I went to the game I'm like look I'll do anything else oh man I didn't think you could do that with a four-cylinder Jack oh don't worry Mark the reason this is possible is it's related to the b-58 this is the b48 oh I see look this is a car that BMW basically forgot about there's no marketing on it they there was no marketing when it launched like hey what'd you guys do uh we made it they all I just got an email back with a duplicate copy of an AARP card the sad part about this car is it like it has this waft of like you know if you're from Illinois like Lake Forest or you're from the East Coast The Hamptons it's got this like old rich like stodgy dude like taking out his wife who's the same age as him and they're gonna go for Olive Garden yeah for all of our upscale Olive Garden dinner but the sad part is if that's what you think about this car you're missing the fact that it's probably one of the most natural Dynamic Vehicles BMW currently sells it's light it's not overly tail happy despite all my sideways just then and it's you know it's a good driving car it's a really good driving car you know one of the things obviously we're in the floor popper and this is let's get this out of the way it's way too much money for what it is like 64.64 and you could probably honestly get this for like 60 if you trim out some of the fat but at 60 000 for a four-cylinder automatic BMW you know you look at the the C8 you look at the Z we just got out of the rusting um there's a lot of really compelling options but clearly you're not buying this as an Enthusiast product that's not what it's marketed as it's marketed towards you want a convertible a quiet convertible that has less buffeting with the top down than the Supra does with its windows open and you get really really good solid driving Dynamics and I know you brought it up and I'm rambling on but this is one of those few cars with the four cylinder the power to weight is so balanced it feels like when you break the back end rotates and if you get back on the throttle it doesn't spin itself like the inline six so I really love the way it dries but they just don't care about it any more than that like you're gonna buy this if you're older you want a convertible it's a great car it has the older traditional BMW on the inside there's no gimmicks it it's just why would you spend this kind of money on it yeah I I that's that's the hard part like I I tell the story all the time but many years ago when we first drove this was at an autocross for Mama which is like the Midwest press Association around the autocross course this was faster than an M2 comp at least the one they set up because this would get into Corners you could lean on the front end you could lift to get it to rotate and you can get back on the gas and wouldn't it wouldn't just do this giant oversteer moment it's a very surprisingly delicate driving car for a BMW product I just think if you're going to spend 60 000 you just buy the b-58 brand yeah the six and then you would then be fighting the rear end and this car is tail happy obviously with the four popper it's not tail happy understanding you don't have enough torque to overwhelm the back end but when you had this if you you know you added the six to this I'm sure this is going to be all over the place it just turns into an absolute that's what I love about the four cylinder in here is yeah it's Nerf but but it was really really stable um but let's talk about the real stuff nobody gives a about the driving Dynamics in this that's not why you're buying it let's talk about the body control how it actually handles the noise like how is it is it a noisy cabin when you're driving we're I mean we have the top up because you know we're trying to do this drive commentary but we're sitting at 65 miles an hour right now on like a County Road and it's perfectly quiet in here yeah it is really it's also really comfortable I think I know you have some problems with the damping profile but for a car like this you know if you're just gonna be a putter like let's say we got done with the track you're outside all day in the Heat or something or you're doing a real job or you're you're scorched you can get in here and you don't even know it's a convertible with this top the way it is and it does not beat you up even in the softest and the hardest setting it's a really good balance between the two you can feel a little bit um it's not quite cow Shake but you can feel like the body struggles to absorb some of the impacts yeah but I mean I'm being hyper critical there's some washboard into it you know and there's you feel a bit of a heave over you know ex you know different types of pavement transitions between concrete and blacktop um and there is some washboarding but to me for a car like this it doesn't really I don't think it's that bad no uh this is a for the the price point the car is at if you say you got one at sixty thousand dollars and you weren't looking for that be all end-all like straight line speed car you wanted a GT you wanted to have some of the bmwness the positive customer experience through dealers and you know well sorted out interior and a car that's very fuel efficient for me and I've been driving this thing like an I've been getting like mid-20s I'm sure you could easily get high 20s low 30s in this all day long it's a good car really BMW it's a shame they sort of let this thing just fall they don't care about it they care about it this thing as much as they do like an X1 I think it's just they they got it out and they're just like it'll run its life cycle and be done with it yeah we fulfill their obligations so you know they can build the Supra yeah and that's it yeah that's I guess that's a good place to leave it Jack all right Mark hey Bruce just got my eyes dilated cataracts are acting up again but that's no drama in this car I've driven it hard I've driven it soft I've taken my lady friends on it and I've also done some things in there I'm not proud of like breaking the speed limit going 47 in a 45. that's what I'm doing in the Z or the Z4 it's a Z4 right yeah Z4 so this four cylinder delivers tremendous horsepower and fuel economy it's quiet it's comfortable does everything you want with the top down you feel like you're the king of your town until you're not until a C8 Corvette pulls up and rubs his engine and You Hear The Sweet Sound of American V8s and you realize you're subhuman and you're going to give up on life and that's a lot of what this car seems to be like in sense of BMW that just it could be so much more because it feels so good in so many ways it's just that little carrot that they Dingle dingle dangle out in front of your nose to make you think oh man but at the end of the day you're gonna buy a BMW SUVlaughs the BMW Z4 this is vehicle that we've already done a video on much like the Toyota Supra and if you've seen those videos you'll know that BMW split the development money with Toyota to make this it's made in magnesny or not in one of their typical BMW factories and this was the first time that BMW had a that made a dedicated sports car platform for driving because everything else they made is shared with the 3 Series sedans they're all sedans turned into sports cars they're all like SUVs turned into sports cars so I wanted to talk about why this thing has kind of been left behind and why they haven't really put as much development budget into this compared to like the SUVs like the XM or The IX and I think the straight answer is not a lot of people buy this and they weren't all that committed to it in the first place and it's sad because there's so many good things about it price aside when you look at the outside it's one of the more unique looking BMWs on the road it has a longer Hood line it doesn't look as over styled and when you you get on the inside Space of this you'll see right away much like the old school z3ms it's got a very purposeful interior the door panels are covered in more durable materials so you can drive and Ankle them at weather including the dashboard and the benefit of this is it's more simple on the inside it's using some of their best technology from the previous generation all the knobs buttons and switches are physical you have iDrive 7 here you have all physical HVAC controls and you know exactly how to use this car and it's very comfortable for it when you have the top down you don't even know you have the top down there's no wind buffeting and there there's just a high sense of quality that you don't get from a lot of convertibles in this price range granted it is very expensive I'm sitting in one with a four cylinder with the m packages and some other things around 64 000 and that's without the inline six so you're going to wonder why you would buy this and I have to wonder why BMW has not given this any attention even when they launched it there was like no Fanfare and it's a car that is vastly underrated I really love driving this car you forget about it and you get behind the wheel you know that BMW knows how to do this it's just kind of sad that you know I haven't done more with it but let's head in the shop we're going to talk about that Mark we're in the shop with a 2023 BMW z430i they made a couple changes for this model here and all of it is packaging so on the 40i and the 30i the sport package comes a standard that's an appearance package there's some unique exterior trim pieces like the shadow line package and they've changed some other bits and bombs but this is essentially the same car since they launched it and this is still built by Magnus Tire the same people who build the Supra and the super on this were co-developed at the same time however the individual chassis tuning the design and some of the other finer details were done by the respective oems is this the type of car that I'm going to take my 70 year old girlfriend out for drinks with or yes this is Mark this is a GT car even though this is technically on clar or sports car clar this was not designed to be an M vehicle this is designed to be a fun open top convertible car that BMW forgot existed yeah well they said that this is going to be their first dedicated sports car chassis that they had and they didn't do a whole hell of a lot with it Jack but they've sure done a lot with their SUVs like the BMW XM which is a masterpiece so I guess we should take this for a drive and just see what oh no Mark I got to tell these people about some of the finer mechanical bits really quickly this is a strut front though this is BMW's multi-link strut it's a multi-link rear end not a strut it's got two wishbones top and bottom this has the optional handling package just means it gets adaptive dampers and a locking rear differential this is powered by the b48 and makes 250 foot-pounds of sorry it makes 250 horsepower about 300 foot pounds of torque and if you option this out with God's engine you can get the 50. and that is you know that's the way to go it makes how much room does it have for my Red Lobster tape all right Mark let's go take this for a drive I had a dream that was a dream that I somehow got trapped into being a body replace a body donor for transference of consciousness they had to dismember me and transfer my Consciousness into a cyborg like an Android body so I had to be killed and transferred that was your dream this was the dream and I was trying to get out of it and I couldn't I was forced into doing it and the guy that was in charge like had me in a cell like a room and this dude was walking around with no shirt on the whole dream and I was so desperate to get out of this it was like going on for four hours me trying to figure out how to get out of this cell yeah take a right we lose and finally I'm like I went to the game I'm like look I'll do anything else oh man I didn't think you could do that with a four-cylinder Jack oh don't worry Mark the reason this is possible is it's related to the b-58 this is the b48 oh I see look this is a car that BMW basically forgot about there's no marketing on it they there was no marketing when it launched like hey what'd you guys do uh we made it they all I just got an email back with a duplicate copy of an AARP card the sad part about this car is it like it has this waft of like you know if you're from Illinois like Lake Forest or you're from the East Coast The Hamptons it's got this like old rich like stodgy dude like taking out his wife who's the same age as him and they're gonna go for Olive Garden yeah for all of our upscale Olive Garden dinner but the sad part is if that's what you think about this car you're missing the fact that it's probably one of the most natural Dynamic Vehicles BMW currently sells it's light it's not overly tail happy despite all my sideways just then and it's you know it's a good driving car it's a really good driving car you know one of the things obviously we're in the floor popper and this is let's get this out of the way it's way too much money for what it is like 64.64 and you could probably honestly get this for like 60 if you trim out some of the fat but at 60 000 for a four-cylinder automatic BMW you know you look at the the C8 you look at the Z we just got out of the rusting um there's a lot of really compelling options but clearly you're not buying this as an Enthusiast product that's not what it's marketed as it's marketed towards you want a convertible a quiet convertible that has less buffeting with the top down than the Supra does with its windows open and you get really really good solid driving Dynamics and I know you brought it up and I'm rambling on but this is one of those few cars with the four cylinder the power to weight is so balanced it feels like when you break the back end rotates and if you get back on the throttle it doesn't spin itself like the inline six so I really love the way it dries but they just don't care about it any more than that like you're gonna buy this if you're older you want a convertible it's a great car it has the older traditional BMW on the inside there's no gimmicks it it's just why would you spend this kind of money on it yeah I I that's that's the hard part like I I tell the story all the time but many years ago when we first drove this was at an autocross for Mama which is like the Midwest press Association around the autocross course this was faster than an M2 comp at least the one they set up because this would get into Corners you could lean on the front end you could lift to get it to rotate and you can get back on the gas and wouldn't it wouldn't just do this giant oversteer moment it's a very surprisingly delicate driving car for a BMW product I just think if you're going to spend 60 000 you just buy the b-58 brand yeah the six and then you would then be fighting the rear end and this car is tail happy obviously with the four popper it's not tail happy understanding you don't have enough torque to overwhelm the back end but when you had this if you you know you added the six to this I'm sure this is going to be all over the place it just turns into an absolute that's what I love about the four cylinder in here is yeah it's Nerf but but it was really really stable um but let's talk about the real stuff nobody gives a about the driving Dynamics in this that's not why you're buying it let's talk about the body control how it actually handles the noise like how is it is it a noisy cabin when you're driving we're I mean we have the top up because you know we're trying to do this drive commentary but we're sitting at 65 miles an hour right now on like a County Road and it's perfectly quiet in here yeah it is really it's also really comfortable I think I know you have some problems with the damping profile but for a car like this you know if you're just gonna be a putter like let's say we got done with the track you're outside all day in the Heat or something or you're doing a real job or you're you're scorched you can get in here and you don't even know it's a convertible with this top the way it is and it does not beat you up even in the softest and the hardest setting it's a really good balance between the two you can feel a little bit um it's not quite cow Shake but you can feel like the body struggles to absorb some of the impacts yeah but I mean I'm being hyper critical there's some washboard into it you know and there's you feel a bit of a heave over you know ex you know different types of pavement transitions between concrete and blacktop um and there is some washboarding but to me for a car like this it doesn't really I don't think it's that bad no uh this is a for the the price point the car is at if you say you got one at sixty thousand dollars and you weren't looking for that be all end-all like straight line speed car you wanted a GT you wanted to have some of the bmwness the positive customer experience through dealers and you know well sorted out interior and a car that's very fuel efficient for me and I've been driving this thing like an I've been getting like mid-20s I'm sure you could easily get high 20s low 30s in this all day long it's a good car really BMW it's a shame they sort of let this thing just fall they don't care about it they care about it this thing as much as they do like an X1 I think it's just they they got it out and they're just like it'll run its life cycle and be done with it yeah we fulfill their obligations so you know they can build the Supra yeah and that's it yeah that's I guess that's a good place to leave it Jack all right Mark hey Bruce just got my eyes dilated cataracts are acting up again but that's no drama in this car I've driven it hard I've driven it soft I've taken my lady friends on it and I've also done some things in there I'm not proud of like breaking the speed limit going 47 in a 45. that's what I'm doing in the Z or the Z4 it's a Z4 right yeah Z4 so this four cylinder delivers tremendous horsepower and fuel economy it's quiet it's comfortable does everything you want with the top down you feel like you're the king of your town until you're not until a C8 Corvette pulls up and rubs his engine and You Hear The Sweet Sound of American V8s and you realize you're subhuman and you're going to give up on life and that's a lot of what this car seems to be like in sense of BMW that just it could be so much more because it feels so good in so many ways it's just that little carrot that they Dingle dingle dangle out in front of your nose to make you think oh man but at the end of the day you're gonna buy a BMW SUV\n"