The WAN Show - The H8 on Microsoft Episode... Also a Couple Good Things - June 6th, 2014

The Wan Show: A Behind-the-Scenes Look at Gaming and More

As we began our show today, I couldn't help but notice how uncomfortable some of our guests looked. It's like they were trying to hide something behind those awkward smiles. But then, suddenly, they started swinging down the monitor set up, and it was like a whole new world opened up. I mean, who wouldn't want to see a spaceship control panel with all sorts of buttons and levers? It's like the future has arrived right in front of us.

But enough about that for now. Let's talk about the straw poll we had on castles. We asked our audience which game they thought was the best, and the results were pretty surprising. With 42 votes, Gabe ended came out on top, followed closely by Castles with 41 votes, and a lone vote from Elon Musk. Now, I know some of you might be thinking, "But Linus, what about the impact of these games on society?" And that's a fair question. But let's be real, folks. We can't deny the influence that Gabe Newell has had on the gaming industry.

Of course, we can't ignore the fact that Elon Musk has made some pretty significant contributions to humanity as well. I mean, have you seen his Twitter feed? The man is a genius. But when it comes to gaming, there's no denying that Castles is the real deal. With its epic storyline and stunning graphics, it's like nothing we've ever seen before.

And speaking of things we've never seen before, let's talk about Star Citizen. I've been trying this game out, and I have to say, it's got some serious issues with mouse controls. I mean, who thought it was a good idea to make the mouse feel so...floaty? But don't worry, folks, I've found a solution. I'm going to be using a USB-to-game controller adapter to play the game on my old Top Gun joystick. It's not ideal, but at least I'll get that same quality feel we're all looking for.

Now, some of you might be thinking, "Linus, what about Solar Roadways?" Well, let me tell you, folks. Those things are not going to make themselves. But hey, a guy can dream, right? We'll just have to wait and see if they ever come to fruition.

And finally, we've got some news on E3. It's going to be awesome...or terrible. We're not really sure which yet. But one thing's for sure: it's going to be an event to remember.

The Mass Drop Deal

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And speaking of cool, have you guys seen the Mass Drop team's latest offerings? It's like they're trying to make our eyes bleed with all sorts of awesome gear. From gaming mice to high-end laptops, they've got it all covered.

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The Wan Show: Wrap-Up

Well, folks, that's all for today's show. It was a wild ride, full of twists and turns that we didn't even see coming. From gaben's impressive win in our straw poll to Elon Musk's surprising appearance, it's been a day filled with surprises.

But as we wrap up this episode, I just want to say thank you to all of our guests for joining us on this wild ride. It's been an absolute pleasure having you guys on the show.

And to our audience, thank you for tuning in! We hope you enjoyed the show and will join us next time for more fun, games, and...who knows what other surprises we have in store?

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enokay guys welcome to the wan show that show every week where me and this guy are all like hey let's like make videos and put them on the internet and then maybe people will watch them let's be on time nope and then people watch them and okay we're only four minutes late today what is this why am i getting french ads i don't know we're in canada poor parties pay all right i'm pausing and i'm pausing and i'm pausing it all right so guys we've got a great show for you today first of all we have a topic that we covered last week sitting in the call outs here i'm going to go ahead and move that one mr lafrenier i believe put that there i don't remember talking about that at all well probably because i did most of the talking because it's the linus show but i feel like i would have had input on that maybe you had me doing something else i'm surprised that you didn't call me out on that it's called the wan show it's not even called the linus show i don't really care you put your name on everything so whatever linus media group linus tech tips what did you want the shirt thing to be called i don't remember but i think that this conversation is uh heading down a picture i had your name in it really not actually that comfortable just really likes hearing his name everyone should just tweet him his name thank you for that please just tweet him his name he will greatly appreciate it all right so why don't we retweet it why don't we move on to our topics for the day microsoft has committed once again to do more for pc gaming but they actually have you're spoiling oh yep it's going to be awesome i'm stopping it's going to be awesome okay ios 8 is on the way so um actually a lot of the features that they're showing off look pretty darn cool some of them are innovative some of them are not but but still good it's about par for the course for any mobile operating system update take everything that you can and add a few things exactly we also have microsoft cortana voice control coming along the way which should be really interesting and the asus uh phonable desktop tablet laptop finance it's not a desktop it's the one thing it's not right asus is five in one pc how do you make a five in one pc well asus will show us but in the meantime guys we'll do the intro yes broken intro do all right so this is interesting our first sponsor this week is actually a group of sponsors we along with tech syndicate will be participating in the world's highest elevation terrestrial land party so we are going to be going to the top of the highest peak in colorado and we will be taking some ahaha some asus gaming notebooks up there we're they're going to be powered by intel core i7s and we're going to have some sweet corsair gaming peripherals of course featuring their rgb keyboards in order to get a land going at 4 400 meters above sea level so there will definitely be videos about this whole thing guys be very very excited it'll be coming sometime in about a month and a huge shout out to asus corsair and intel for making this whole thing possible also something that's coming a little bit more immediately is e3 coverage here online is tech tips we bailed on computex this year as you probably noticed but we'll be doing e3 basically we did computex last year it was extremely expensive and not a whole lot of people watched the content so we're going to try something a little bit different we're going to do we're going to do e3 instead so our gold sponsor 4e3 is hyperx featuring the fury line of performance to price ratio i think the word is value price to performance ratio optimized ssds as well as the corsair rgb keyboard and ncix my bros my my homeboys my dogs do you see that we were being featured on newegg's product site i have seen that you saw that speaking of speaking of my bros ncix i'm sure newegg is so super thrilled to have the host of ncix tech tips all over their uh their site there so yeah it's pretty funny i hope paul and kyle are watching they were tagged in that twitter feed so i know they saw it it's absolutely fantastic i'm sure ncix thinks it's hilarious too oh this is great you're embedding a youtube video chip 700 says so by we're doing e3 does he mean i'm sending slick to e3 yes yes we'll be doing the same kind of thing that we did at pax east again so we'll do a mix of all the hardware stuff that i can find and a few gaming videos sweet yeah no that sounds like that sounds like fun i mean part of it is that we've never covered e3 in any capacity before so this is more like a scouting mission so if it turns out e3 is a total disaster and there's no benefit to us being there then next year we won't yeah exactly so let us know it's not like it's not like packs where i would have to actually tie him down like harder than usual in order to keep him from going what day did i request time off for pax prime it was when we started linus media group so before we actually founded the company so it would have been in december of 2012 you asked for the time off in september of 2013. that i think it was like the second day i started working with you before we founded the company people are saying audio is actually normal for once which is hilarious because i actually took out the compressor we're not using a balanced output off the mixer i'm going into like a crappy rca input on something i we actually we know what the problem is now i know what the problem is now we need an amp and then we need a couple more adapter cables and we're going to be able to get the audio like bang on uh the issue is that this juiced link amp kind of sounds like poo it's the one that we use whenever we film things on the blackmagic camera and everyone complains so i got the levels sounding really good on this one um and so that that didn't quite work though because it just sounds kind of poopy and then i tried an objective two but they're not really meant to be used this way so i didn't really work i need balanced inputs and outputs in order for it to work properly the whole chain has to be kind of the same thing and then i didn't have the right xlr to quarter inch adapters and all that so it just didn't quite work but guys it is definitely going to happen also as for the white balance i'm actually not sure i think that is a bit of uh i think that is a bit of a problemo but uh we're just gonna have to go with it because welcome to the wand show where we go live at some time that's somewhere around 4 30 and hopefully things are okay and the color's wrong and the audio sucks yeah whatever screw you guys no we love you guys please keep watching please don't leave please don't maybe i need you oh speaking of the lan show uh and technical difficulties all right how much you want to bet we get a blue screen hold on hold on hold on don't do it yet don't do it yet hold on okay and hit it oh what's interesting that was so not expected so that's probably yeah no i get it i get it i get it we gotta add boom all right hold on hold on hold on hold on not yet not yet oh yeah okay yeah no no it's fine we're all good we're all good you're good all right hit it and then yes look at us in that corner over there that's adorable you're like you're like a cute little ogre oh i didn't have colored hair then what were they called were they ogres i don't know trolls trolls okay no if someone here was a troll it would be me so all right so we may have a wireless standard coming oh my god that is theoretically faster than any wired standard that we can get at a consumer level and i gotta kind of sit here and wonder what is the point of these faster and faster wireless standards when they never work right anyway can you please all focus your out i know that wireless is exciting and intel had that whole thing where they're like wireless by 20 what was it 2016 or 2018 would like replace everything or whatever it was seven gigabit per second thing they want your display and your peripherals to all be wireless and i'm kind of sitting there looking looking at going okay so intel out of one side of your mouth you're going wireless everything and out of the other side of your mouth you're working with me with apple on the mac pro which is like the octopus of wires well maybe the idea is that a mac pro released around that time wouldn't have to be an oculus octopus of wires hold on hold that thought wireless octopus you think item just like randomly curls around your desk and annoys your cat you know i was looking into it because i have a bit of uh i have a bit of an infatuation with remote control gears gear and as much as i am a crappy heli pilot i'm actually i'm no i'm a better plane pilot than a heli pilot but not by much and cars i basically have never really used a decent one so i'm definitely not good with those so but i still i love that stuff i geek out over it so i was looking to see if you can get a really sweet rc submarine because i actually built one in my grade 11 technology class like we did it as a project so we made them out of pvc and then what you'd do is you'd put as much styrofoam as you need to make it neutrally buoyant once you have your motors and your and your wires and everything on it and we actually made fully functional submarines like everyone in the class made one uh we we made our own watertight motors out of film canisters it's funny because my son won't even know what a film canister is yeah i know but they're so useful for that kind of stuff out of film canisters and then wax seals with motors inside them so they stay dry and they could actually move in every direction so we had xyz axis movement and um the thing i didn't like about them though was that obviously some kind of a wireless transmitter that's going to be able to punch through water is going to be either non-existent or very expensive so we were stuck with a wired control so no matter how perfectly neutrally buoyant you made the thing as it moved up in the water there would be more weight on it and as it moved down there would be less yeah so you would never have that that perfect control of it so i was looking i was just like is there a hobbyist grade remote control submarine that you can put like a gopro on because yeah it's the kind of thing you'd use once the gopro part of that would be really cool you'd be like yeah this is cool now i'll never do it again but like whatever but you can kind of go diving with it yeah kind of yeah yeah you could go see like fish or stuff you take it with you on vacation or whatever maybe not once but not that often but they don't really have anything so speaking of yeah just wireless basically not working so anyway huawei has tested wi-fi based on future standard 802.118x that can hit 10.5 gigabit per second so that's about 10 times faster than what you typically get at a nato 2.11 ac connection today this was posted by qwerty warrior on the forum the trick the company says is making more efficient use of the airwaves thank you for that highly technical elaborate explanation of the trick huawei the new technology is smarter at allocating wireless spectrum juggling data between multiple antennas and cutting back on interference they don't even have to switch to ultra high frequencies to make the magic happen it works at five gigahertz which is great because an inherent property of those higher frequency signals is that the range will be shorter so it's good that we don't have to go any higher than that you're still a long way from picking one of these up they figure that they may hit the market sometime in 2018. i guess it's just frustrating because wireless is getting all these developments dumped into it and we're still using gigabit wired why why why why we're trying to move away from that yeah we're trying to move away from it but it's extremely expensive and no one's really putting the effort into making it affordable the cabling is not that bad no the wiring is fine it's the switches and the adapters yeah that you'll spend a ton of money on and it's frustrating because you heard jj talking about it yeah what did he say it was going to add about 150 dollars to the bomb club so if they can integrate it onto a motherboard for 150 where's my 150 nick or 165 170 whatever the case may be like no one's even really making an effort they're content to just let it sit there as a high-end solution forever and i really think that with ssds increasing in speed the way that they are looking at how nvme so that's the replacement for ahci the communication protocol by which the ssd communicates with your system so looking at what they can do with nvme in terms of improving throughput and reducing latency there's no reason why two pcs on the same network with a couple of high-speed pci express or m.2 ssds couldn't be transferring files to each other at like two gigabytes per second like let's do this let's do it did i say two gigabytes per second because what i meant to say was like 200 megabytes per second you know actually a lot more than that 500 600 700. not not 200 yeah not sorry sorry sorry sorry yes so that never happened there's a few numbers in there that you can't ignore the numbers you should be paying attention to are we could easily be doing 500 plus megabyte per second transfers across the network um straight from drive to drive which is very very cool all right now this this topic this is an interesting this is an interesting topic the thing that can do all the things now i really liked what was it the uh the transformer book duo or trio the one that you could just press a button to switch between and where the where the android and windows operating systems were actually running off of the same drive like it was more like a dual boot this is a little bit different my friends so the transformer book v or five i'm assuming let's say five pretty sure five okay it's a five in one it's an android tablet an android smartphone a windows tablet a windows laptop and something a windows phone android windows what the hell is this thing so basically it's everything you can you what you do is i'm going to here i'm going to blow up this picture off uh a little bit here yeah you can you can click the phone in the back and you can click the screen to the keyboard yes so much like previous transformers there is a hard drive down here in the keyboard because there's only an ssd up here in the tablet piece you've also got an extended battery in the tablet i believe so the phone has you know what here i'm just gonna go i'm gonna go back to my uh to my cheat sheet for this thing here so yeah so there's a 2500 milliamp hour battery in the phone and then a four thousand somewhat milliamp hour battery in the tablet i believe unless that's in the keyboard this is the most confusing thing ever the point is the phone has a 1080p screen and actually um a pretty high-end spec as far as phones are concerned and then the tablet is a 12 and a half inch ips display and everything kind of slots into everything the tablet itself doesn't have android running off of it that's actually going to run off of the phone hardware so it's a windows laptop and an android phone essentially that can just like slowly come together yeah this thing is like freaking bizarro though it's kind of cool i am less on board with this one than i am with the uh the last one that we looked at to be perfectly honest i i just but didn't they get booted out of that for some reason yes but that was such an elegant solution because you had one set of hardware so on the same atom processor you could run your android os or your windows os and you could switch between them in like three or four steamboats whereas this one you can switch between them but it's more like using one as a display off of which the other one's running they're not actually running on the same hardware so it's an intel atom cpu in the tablet and then it's a qualcomm snapdragon 800 or something like that in the other piece so my notes for this one actually aren't that uh aren't that complete and of course control f doesn't work in internet explorer because i'm a genius and i'm using internet explorer everyone rips on you about that like every single show i don't think it's listed yeah it's not listed i was i was looking at a couple of different articles where it has a little bit more information than the gizmodo one so okay that would explain why i can't find it so tell me guys it's in terms of device convergence would you want a a a a dummy device like this something that uh i think i think if it makes sense financially i could see myself doing it like if i wanted all these things and for some reason had to refresh them all at the exact same time which is weird and it like made sense financially then i could see myself spending money on it if it's actually a good device i think we'd have to use it first and this is going to be something that i definitely want to see in the store if i was a random consumer because i'd want to like actually try clicking it in and make sure that the phone is not just gonna like fall out of the back and other things like that that i would want to try i don't know okay so here we go we've got a summary from asus up now so it is hem a windows notebook a windows tablet an android phone an android tablet and an android laptop so that is how the whole thing works and the detachable android smartphone is detachable so that's the piece that is not not windows phone at all so this is interesting okay okay here here we go here we go here we go so it wasn't a qualcomm chip on the uh on the phone that's actually that's actually very interesting so it is an atom quad core on the phone and then it is a next-gen core processor on the notebook tablet piece itself so this gives us a much better rundown of the overall specs yeah so 64 up to 64 gigs on the phone up to 128 gigs on the tablet with the one terabyte one being detachable in the keyboard there we go much more clear maybe next time we should go to the manufacturer's site in the first place i really hope we get a unit of this because i'd definitely be interested in checking it out and giving it a shot i should probably let them know that we'd be interested in checking it out speaking of things that we're interested in checking out asus has been doing their pad phones so phones made by asus android phones for a while in other markets uh taiwan in particular you've been able to get a pad phone for like a couple of years now yeah um it gets covered in the north american media a little bit but understandably not much because they haven't been available here but it's finally coming so this is probably where i got that snapdragon thing that was sitting in my head because this one does use a snapdragon 800 processor but basically it's a high-end phone it's going to be 200 with a contract and uh we are definitely getting a unit for reviews so it's got a five-inch screen 1920 by 12 wait hold on a second right sorry this one no wonder i was confused this one's a phone and it docks to a tablet but in this one the tablet is just a dummy yeah it's basically just a screen except that it also has a keyboard and it's probably cheaper yeah so this one is a 2300 milliamp hour battery in the phone and a 49 90 milliamp hour battery in the tablet so you put them together and what do you got bippity boppity bop bigger battery um fascinating i mean okay we need to create a straw poll for this or something can you get a straw poll going so are you interested in a phone that merges with a tablet and guys give us your thoughts on twitter as well just hit me at linus linustech we're going to do a twitter blitz on this what would you need to see so between the notebook that has an android operating system and a windowed windows operating system running on two completely separate pieces of hardware and it's like notebook slash tablet slash detachable phone versus the pad phone x which is a phone with like a tablet dock that the phone goes into uh so anyway the phone has a 1080p screen the tablet's got a nine inch screen the whole thing runs android they're claiming up to 10 hours of battery life for video playback and what an interesting device i'm actually really looking forward to checking this out results so far are extremely even at 51 and 49 wow i think this is the most even poll we've ever had holy balls okay well we'll give you guys the results of that if you can i am that over to me then i'll check it out in a moment but guys we've got some pictures here that i want to put up on the screen from the end gadget article about the pad phone x so here's the way that the phone and as you can see it'll be on the at t network so here's the way that the phone docks into the back of the pad phone station which is the nine inch 16 by 10 19 20 by 1200 tablet for 200 bucks on contract would you accept a little bit of a reduction in terms of like fancy specs and features like what you might get on an htc one m8 for a more basic phone but one that comes with a tablet now that you've actually spent some time using a tablet probably not i know that it might sound surprising because i was i am surprised but that tablet was only 200 bucks in itself but this is 200 bucks on contract and the tablet-y part comes with your phone that you are and let's assume you already need a phone yeah but then at the same time uh independent batteries is kind of nice they do have independent batteries can the tablet charge the phone i'm not sure exactly how it works or does it just just run off the battery on the tablet hard to say hard to say and it can run independently is kind of nice as well yeah which it can't yeah because like i don't know there's wow it's exactly 50 50. what the heck um i put it in the dock it's right but being able to run it independently is nice uh that way like if someone's over and you have your chromecast set up to be able to stream things off your tablet they can be looking at your tablet and you can still have usability of your phone other things like that would be nice um if it's gonna be like fifty dollars more compared to buying an equivalent phone and you just get this tablet dock thing as well i think that's pretty cool and i'd probably go for that which does kind of make sense it sounds like what it actually is so i'd probably be i'd probably be down wow but i'm not super into buying phones on contract anymore anyways that's exactly 50 50. well no is technically winning but like yeah not by much if anyone hasn't uh yeah if anyone hasn't voted yet we can go ahead and pop that in there again but that is absolutely amazing so it looks like there's definitely some interest in the whole tablet phone merger thing but it remains to be seen if anyone other than asus has the uh has the wherewithal or the willingness or whatever you would call it yeah wants to make one i mean it's the kind of thing you can see samsung kind of going whoa something we didn't think of let's make one too and then so everything that samsung does yeah pretty much it's like an idea we're not sure if it's good or not but let's make sure that we're talking about our bases and make really bad commercials to go along with them ah you know they were on a roll for a bit that whole next best thing was great and then their most recent one that they will not stop playing on youtube is actually pretty okay is it okay i haven't seen that one yet all right um their their their watch and their phone at the same time in one commercial okay but it's like it's not that bad it's it's fairly upbeat it doesn't have a terrible storyline like the one with the guy picking up the chick with his smart watch yeah yeah none of that kind of stuff it's just it's just kind of an upbeat commercial in it that was really hard to watch it was it was like painful all right so let's see it looks like no is actually winning now but only by two percent let's hit the twitters all right okay all that twitter interaction that we often forget to do sometimes these days it's not a crazy angle do you want me to turn it uh sorry do you want me to turn this sure yeah that couldn't hurt whoa that's kind of trippy when someone turns the monitor while you're holding the mouse still it's like oh my mouse is moving man oh wow whoa man all right so the original phone pad distributes the battery power evenly not sure if the new one does though that's interesting so either one could charge off the other i guess right that would be kind of cool okay craigl says not a fan of the combination of the two if one breaks then i have half a tablet i don't see the benefit to having them connect okay that's interesting but i mean by that logic why buy a stereo that has both left and right speakers because then if one of the speakers fails you only have half a stereo that's not even right because they disconnect yeah if one of them breaks you either have a tablet and not a phone or you have a phone and not a tablet you will know because the tablet won't work without the phone so you've either got a phone and no tablet or you have nothing so if your phone breaks you're totally screwed yes yeah yeah i don't know but that's not really i have my pad phone x pre-ordered i get an almost top of the line phone and tablet on one data plan that that's a good point it's a very good point the data plan point because for some reason the wireless carriers are still determined to fleece us on the whole idea that we should be able to use our data across multiple devices it's like i i just stopped so annoying stuff battles that were won you know a hundred years ago like you know i actually now that i think of it it's not that different from other things i mean you look at um you look at the way that your cable tv provider once you switched off of analog where you could just use splitters and they kind of like were like oh yeah you need a digital box rent another digital box for every tv yeah it costs extra um yeah i guess that's just the way everything's going you have to subscribe per device rather than per person it's very annoying except except for netflix you just have to subscribe per device that's streaming at that point in time it's whatever works out better for whoever's providing it to you so you look at something like windows if i could license windows per person i'd be thrilled and that's per device and then you look at actually what is per person oh boy world isn't uh adobe creative cloud technically per person oh yeah that's per person but it's just not infinite amount of devices it's like three or something two yeah two devices so basically it's like uh but you can bounce around you just can't be logged in working on that many at one time that's all okay if they can make the phone not protrude so weirdly and the specs are still solid and the batteries good i'd get a combo dealio you know i don't see how they would do that anytime soon though unless it was more like the phone kind of clips on because you're gonna want the tablet to be really thin and you're gonna want the phone to have support while it's clipped in unless it was like unless there was yeah i can't think of a good way to do that not really we're also not engineers though i would be interested in a phone tablet hybrid but i feel if the tab is nine inches the phone is a bit too big at five inches five inches is not that big of a phone these days though which is funny to me because i still feel weird i still find it big because my hands are still small they didn't change because screen sizes became a fad that got bigger um and i find nine inches is a pretty comfortable size for a tablet that's only a little bit smaller than the ipad so really i didn't say anything nine inches is a comfortable size for a tablet i didn't even pause suggestions i didn't say anything you can click in whatever you want will says i would need to see a quad core on everything greater than six pounds total weight what are you asking for why would you want a six pound tablet all right will you're done i think he's done his things wrong most phones have the specs to power a tablet anyway yeah it's basically the same hardware i mean you look at the apple side of things they're just putting the same chips in their phones and their tablets makes sense for them to converge but only if it's cheaper than two devices and if you're saving money on the hardware and on the data plan and basically you're just buying another screen in a shell then there's definitely a savings to be had yeah yeah as a mobile game developer i need top end hardware both of these are clearly lacking high-end cpus and gpus um in what way because there's actually only one cpu and one gpu the tablet doesn't have one so this is running a hold on if i can find it yeah yeah you see both of these as in the tablet dock and the phone or is he talking about this and the transformer five i'm not sure it's very hard for me to say at this point in time um but yeah it's a snapdragon 800 so it's not it's i mean it doesn't get a whole load faster than that in terms of a mobile cpu i mean the 805 is marginally better at certain things but it's not a quantum leap forward or anything like that so i don't see that making much of a difference all right should we move on to our next topic here sure all right what do we got the monitor that you're probably gonna be excited about actually believe it or not i'm not or are we gonna nope nope we're gonna keep doing is topics uh why not oh is there a monitor that i will be excited about no i was just saying like it seemed to be one big call of misus well it was computex computex is a big show for taiwanese companies so it makes a lot of sense that asus would have had a lot going on there so why not this is the pa328q it's a 32 inch 4k so that's 138 pixels per inch factory calibrated just like pro arts tend to be 10 bit color 100 srgb wide color gamut capable it's got three hdmi inputs one of which supports mhl so you can output off your phone to your monitor as if anyone's ever done that ever um i was corrected about that today by the way i was telling um the wheels over at ncix that i think that tablets outputting to tvs doesn't matter because chromecast is sort of a thing and yeah he's like nope i do it all the time why i i couldn't quite understand what he was talking about but basically i concluded that he's drunk so how are you proved wrong here i don't understand so what's exciting about this one even though asus doesn't have a clear idea of when exactly it will be released or what exactly the price will be it will be considerably cheaper than the three thousand dollar pq series um which was launched actually i believe the first time we saw it was computex last year i think so it's amazing the way prices are dropping on them 4ks eh it's exciting yeah it might be reasonable at some point in time and in terms of the actual display quality well it's not 100 clear what it'll be right now they're not actually telling us what panel type it'll be but 10 bit color factory color calibrated this could actually be anything hard to say anyway this is the same size as that one has a whack ton of inputs is much much cheaper and should be landing sometime in the next sort of little while uh but they're ending they're aiming for about half the price of the older pq so we should be looking at like 1500 to 2000 ish somewhere in that range so why not interested uh because i just don't care about 4k anymore oh because you want your wide format yeah i'm done 4k is until scaling is fixed yeah then i i can't i can't bring myself to use it i'm not gonna upgrade to a display that makes some things look extremely sharp and other things look worse than before and something's incredibly hard to read and weird website formatting and all this other and all that stuff that that you know microsoft and application developers really needed to be working on over the last few years as opposed to oh 4ks here oh i guess we better do something some of them are reacting some just aren't some just aren't reacting at all and that that kind of attitude is what sets apple apart and i know i come across as a bit of an apple fanboy but some of the things that they do are really really good and they're good things the fact that they figured out how to make scaling work properly on their os's before rolling out the hardware that supports it or at the same like put just putting in the work to make sure that things actually function the way that they intend is uh is the kind of thing i feel like i should be able to take for granted but i know that i can't no not at all not on our platforms so speaking of apple shilling yeah ios 8. actually pretty pretty excited to try ios 8. um some of the stuff here doesn't look that interesting i mean home kit is going to be really exciting okay mcafee just screw off go away um homekit is going to be either a massive success in the future or there's going to be something else that completely destroys it and is way better but that's apple's apple's way of integrating their device with home automation stuff like your blinds or your thermostat or your door lock um they're building security into it so that the theory is that no one can unlock your door except you what's i mean what's interesting is with that whole thing with people remotely locking iphones and then holding them for ransom um that was that was one thing but oh my god breaking into people's phones and breaking into people basically breaking into someone's ecosystem of digital devices is gonna be a really scary thing you know what would be interesting would be offline phones like having having a phone which is like your public phone which you don't store anything super crazy on are you a drug dealer and then having like a phone that you don't put a sim card in do you often cheat on women what why are you why is two phones your solution to every problem you've been watching too much breaking bad i do that a lot too i have two phones right now anyways um no to both those questions but seriously you could have one that's set up for all your home automation and everything yes that does not connect to the internet okay so you don't have to worry nearly as much about getting hijacked you could still possibly get hijacked through other devices or whatever but it's going to be extremely difficult and it would probably have to be targeted directly at you instead of just a random i think this is an incredibly stupid solution to the problem wow why that's so mean because it's the same reason no way okay basically mobile phones have huge security holes so completely removing that security hole is helpful basically what you're suggesting is we bring back the pda kind of an offline phone yeah no why because it's stupid if you're worried about your house getting trouble hijacked straw poll okay fine straw poll offline offline phones do they need to be a thing or is slick an idiot those can be the only two options yes we need these luke is an idiot i'm gonna get destroyed sometimes you don't think before you talk no i actually still agree with this though but it doesn't have to be a phone it could be just like a a device that can control okay but i think the kind of device you're thinking of is just it's like is like way overkill what i see happening is it's like that's what i mean it doesn't happen yeah like whatever it is it should be some device that has no internet connectivity and can go with you i think i would still want to screen i just want to see a straw poll where everyone calls you an idiot that was most of it i still want a screen that's why i said phone would you need a screen once you're more immersed in a wearable type of ecosystem so your glass as of right now i do think so because well glasses can be connected to the internet if you connect your glass to that device then you're just creating a hole what if you don't what if you what if you just go like what if you just touch your ring against your glass it goes into airplane mode hold on what if it just acts as a display so the processing's here everything is here except just a display link there's there's no way to my knowledge there's no way to hack a dvi connection like that's a pretty minor issue i don't really know so if you if you use that as a control so basically you just had your glass and then you could like gesture or do whatever else or type in the air or whatever solutions they end up coming up with i think that's feasible so a wearable is probably the right answer here but i would still want to i don't know i don't know i don't i don't think connecting it to because it's not dvi i'll tell you what tell you what i will i will bring my old hp pocket pc in but that's not the same it's not helpful it has because i would want it to be it has 733 megahertz oh no 533 megahertz i was like that's actually pretty fast x scale processor all right it's got like uh this is not the point it's not like 128 i can have it connected to my parents house i can have it connected to my house i could have it connected to say my significant other's house and then whenever i go there it can recognize me and i can change different things on the device but then it's not connected to the internet so i don't have to worry about those things leaking i have 64 megs of compact flash storage stupid pocket pc that's not what i'm trying to describe yeah that's not the thing in my pocket you care about i guess no it's not all right let's go ahead and uh not as many people grilled me as i thought okay where's uh where's our straw pool it's it's put up oh oh oh oh bollocks there we go all right no no no where's where's ours i just posted it you just keep looking away whenever i post it to you there we go all right so let's have a look at the results of the poll here wow actually you're doing better than i thought 42 of people are blindly following you off of the abyss like the lemmings that they just want everyone's house to get locked and 658 percent of you are saying that that's basically a stupid idea from a student 658 well i might have embellished so they're all following the dude that like can't read anything at all just adds numbers you know what not being able to read is a specific learning disability that actually you have and i don't that's no i can still read right but slowly yes yes but that's not what yeah that's right it's not right at all it's getting personal now and you're just wrong at least i don't wet my pants during the show i don't what you said you were so sweaty that your pants were wet actually that was me but that was so not true at all he literally said that like last week what now you're making oh man you're just saying things about yourself and then that doesn't even make any sense i'm projecting oh my goodness i'm a troubled person um all right so back to ios 8. it's available for developers in beta now and it'll get a full release in the fall we are finally getting third-party keyboards which is something that i was really disappointed about with uh moving from android back to ios going back to being stuck with just one keyboard was was was grinding my gears and this is this is one big step towards me being able to use ios again um they do their own their own keyboard is also getting some enhanced functionality in terms of an auto prediction that predicts the next word based on people that you're talking to and whatever else so basically like swiftkey except with even tighter integration um i wonder if i wonder if the custom keyboard apps would be able to access that as well i would hope so i would hope so because that would be nice because i doesn't does an iphone have that thing where it like doesn't let you swear and stuff no or can you add it to dictionary oh yeah i don't i've never extensively used an iphone so i don't know um so you can reply directly from the notification pull down thing so you got interactive notifications um their mail app which i never use because the gmail one is way better has gestures for removing flagging and such their health kit thing is basically apple jumping on the whole bandwagon of you know heart monitors and whatever what's kind of cool about health kit is you can actually have your results being automatically sent over to like mayo clinic or your doctor or something like that so someone else can be helping you helping you track your activity um homekit i guess is where we got sidetracked uh photos taken with any ios 8 device will be available via icloud so it's like okay great kind of like bittorrent sync or dropbox or dropbox i guess whatever um 200 gigs of icloud is 3.99 siri now has shazam integration which is pretty cool because opening up shazam was a lot of work and then finally it's coming to the iphone 4s or newer and get this the ipad 2 is getting ios 8. that's actually kind of interesting that is fantastic do some pretty crazy stuff in terms of backwards compatibility i mean that's great i have tablets from that era that are running like 4.0 yeah that's great it's like kind of brutal i i actually i'm more interested in the shazam integration than i think you are because it would be nice like especially if you're driving you don't want to touch your phone you don't want to go open shazam and you don't want to be like siri open shazam or whatever okay you're probably right because you said they're they're adding hello siri kind of support aren't they hey siri hey siri yeah so if if you can do completely hands list like touchless completely without any worrying that would be kind of nice to be able to check songs and stuff yeah you're prob you're probably right it's probably a bigger deal than i'm giving it credit for because it is something that i use a fair bit because i don't really pay attention to celebrities and no me neither releases i'll just be like i'll be in the mall and some horrible song will be on the radio and i'll be like wow that sounds great what is it yeah i hear you that's funny i gotta get me some of that some of that top 40. all right should we save let's save the microsoft promises to do more for pc gaming for later so first up is cortana oh my god i'm so excited i'm actually stoked for this yeah do you want to cover this one because uh sure the the i've been super super interested in voice controlling devices for quite a while now and i've been waiting for cortana announcements and being able to listen to it more in depth and see them talk about it all that kind of stuff so i was super excited to see this if you go to this website either i think both of them have it but engadget or vg247 um you can you can listen to audio clips of her talking uh it's it's essentially the answer to google now in siri for windows phone and i think they're adding it to xbox as well but she should be able to have casual conversations with you as well which is fairly interesting and creepy it's creepy but not necessarily because if she could i'm old and afraid of technology so it's kind of creepy but go ahead okay i don't think it's that creepy but i guess i'm not not as old as lionesses i just don't expect it to work very well because they're they like in the articles they have examples of like kind of cheeky things that she'll say like if you ask her if she's better than siri she says not to brag but apparently i'll help save the universe in about 500 years and i'm just kind of like yeah but all those are like anything that relies on a pre-programmed response is always going to not be that great it's like it's like bullet holes in the side of a house in a game until we get to the point where the wood dynamically breaks upon impact from the bullet it's gonna look like a video game yeah yeah that's true sorry go ahead but because it's all in server they're planning on adding things like uh jokes and all this kind of stuff as time goes on every two weeks i think they were saying yeah so things like it can go along with current events so if you ask it about current events it can have topical things to say about all that kind of stuff so while you're completely right and it's gonna add this weird thing where like you could ask her the same question a billion times and she's probably gonna say the same thing every time yeah and that's gonna sound a little bit weird like same thing down to the letter yeah so that might be a little bit weird and a little bit disconnecting they're they're going to be adding to it all the time which should help that a lot and and you're kind of right at the same time there's going to be this disconnect the conversations aren't going to feel super natural all kind of stuff i'm i'm sure that's going to happen but this is the start i also just don't really have any desire to converse with my phone not really if it could like i don't know because i really really like um okay google now what's up yeah but it's horrible it is so terrible and it is not useful and okay you might have to uh you might have to sort of i don't have my phone on a laptop i wish i could do i would do a live demo but i don't um it's i'll go like i'll have some emails and some text messages and whatever and i'm like okay google now what's up and it's like hello luke the time is 6 47 p.m you have two emails subject line blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah okay done you have text messages from don k bye it's like what that was where's the interactivity how do i say oh hey reply to that message can't respond to anything i don't i don't need to know the time every single time uh the the longest part of her talking to me is her making sure that she takes time in between words saying hello luke the time is blah blah blah then once she gets to her email she blurts email and text messages she blurts out things super fast doesn't always read them correctly um like rifles through it doesn't say who it's from like i'll get text it'll be like you have a text message body of the message doesn't say who it's from can't reply to it i'm just like what i was like subject line i want you so bad right now it's like who is this from there could be a dozen different people i'm such a player that's not what oh my god okay anyways but like there are a lot of messages that aren't like that that could be from anyone um so i don't it's annoying and like if someone sends me a text message that's like hey are you on the way this is the time where it would be amazingly helpful my phone goes off it says i have a text message okay google now what's up blah blah blah blah says hey are you on the way oh respond yeah i'm just driving that would be amazing well one of the problems that i have with with what i've had with google's voice activation in general and they fixed one of them recently to their credit like i gotta i gotta give them props for this was the way their voice styling used to work is you'd say call whoever work or mobile and it would say do you want to call blah blah blah yes or i think no no i think it was um calling whoever uh would you like to call blah blah work would you like to call blah blah blah mobile called this one like it didn't just let you do it in one go yeah and then it's a and then i think it would ask you to confirm or something like that and like no just when i say it do it just do it and i think i think part of they fix that now right and i think with uh like moto x i think you can have it detect if you're driving and if you're driving i think it will do a little bit better than okay google now does right but then and then like okay google now isn't even on a massive amount of devices so what yeah it's just on moto x right now yeah my knowledge so like what oh it's just okay google you don't have to say google now anymore i don't think i've tried that oh it's not working for you maybe it just doesn't like my voice for when i say that it could be because you and i have had apparently lots of problems with google now that no one else in the entire universe has had so anyway i'm going to give i'll give windows phone 8 another crack once cortana rolls out it's been over a year since i've tried it that was back when windows phone 8 was first kind of rolling out and i'm i'm pretty excited about it all i'd like to see what what it's like and i don't know that it's going to convince me to switch back to windows phone in fact i sincerely doubt it but with some of the great devices available on windows phone like nokia's latest flagship which i can't remember what it's called but it's really good and it's got a great camera um and nokia's latest okay so there's only one but that's okay i'm i still really want to try it out uh what else we got here all right should we get into microsoft is going to do more for pc gaming really this time it's different they're like an abusive spouse at this point all right so this was originally posted on the forum by john there's some sort of action you know what i i'm whatever you go be a microsoft fan no i know until i see some kind of action i'm on your side are you on my side because it didn't seem like it before when you were suggesting that we all start carrying pdas around again and that was why i had to abuse you i hope you realize this is your fault this is not a good way to go oh my god this is why i have to hit you this hurts me more than you horrible okay okay so microsoft's recent acquisition of the pc centric rise of nations franchise is just the first step in microsoft's efforts to do more in the pc also known as only according to xbox boss phil spencer a fan asked spencer on twitter why microsoft had acquired rise of nations and announced a re-release for steam to which the veteran xbox boss said steam is a great place to sell win 32 games we acquired the ip for future work i'm a big fan of the franchise the fan is apparently a yahoo because this fan responded by saying they aren't interested in installing steam praise beta gave in but would rather enjoy a games for windows live replacement praise be to gabe um wait wait what what really that part of this yeah the the fan is basically off his rocks so it's not a fan this is a planted person no i have no idea i have never met or talked to a single person ever that has thought games for windows live was anything other than no microsoft has already said they're they're not expecting to create a direct competitor for steam and they shouldn't i'd like to see more collaboration yeah we've brought up about how ubisoft needs to give up and reskin steam okay so at any rate we're just having you play this article blah blah blah etc etc microsoft whatever has committed more directx 12 blah blah blah so this is great um someone point brought this to johnner's attention and it was added to the original post it's a post from 2013 that chronicles all the times that microsoft has said this in 2005 we care about pc gaming longhorn that's the code name for vista um blah blah blah to usher in modern pc gaming with trey and play do you guys remember that games folder for vista that is gone now okay well vista launched with none of the stuff they promised uh vista was not popular 2006 i think actually the what the article says is vista itself sucks the ass of a thousand camels but i decided to make that not void but then you just said it that's true i did but i was a it was a direct quote all right so wouldn't have changed saying it in the first place 2006 microsoft says don't count pc games out and they announce games for windows live talk about how amazing it will be in 2007 they continue the pc push they launch games for windows live with a 50 a year fee genius thanks for saving they also they also announce a whole slew of games to include uh shadow run with cross platform play playing gears of war one and blah blah blah cross-platform play where what happened to cross-platform play they realized that pc gamers were going to destroy i'm sorry if you're a console gamer in the audience but i'm so much faster with the keyboard and mouse it's not gonna happen 2008 um yay we got rid of the 50 a year fee see we're serious about pc gaming 2008 pc gaming's not dead look at this event we're throwing 2008 uh all new games for windows live it's got a new skin 2009 pc gaming is still a priority for us it's really vital for us we're still serious guys 2010 we're doubling down which means games for windows live is still here and we'll update some stuff to fix the problem of game saves being deleted uh 2010 games for windows live marketplace these are all things 2010 windows 8 is going to relaunch gaming um just like we promised back in 2006 2012. we won't ditch games for windows live 2013 we're discontinuing windows live thank you um 2013. microsoft promises core first party games coming to pc so forgive me if i give exactly zero craps about microsoft's recommitment to the pc because it really just i mean you look at the rumors circulating about how you know there's at least some discussion about canning the xbox division altogether never mind pc gaming which was the red-headed stepchild eight years ago i mean okay with all of that said with all of that said anyway blah blah spencer says part of my xbox role is to bring back our windows gaming focus i mean there is there the opportunity has been missed time upon time with the original xbox there was an opportunity to get xboxes rolled out as media streamers which actually there are still some deployed today yeah as media streaming boxes to to get rolled out as an inexpensive media streaming box that happens to also be a cheapo gaming console and then to bring that library of games to pc gamers and xbox gamers alike throw mouse and keyboard compatibility at the xbox so that there isn't that inherent disadvantage and and make it all one big ecosystem which would have been amazing then go and add windows phone and tablet and all this stuff to it to keep things segregated the way they do never made any sense to me what could they have possibly been thinking developing games for just one platform instead of all the platforms i mean you look at what microsoft has invested in the typical in a typical pc okay so let's say they develop a piece of software let's say for example halo okay halo 2 or whatever doesn't matter the point is if they could sell that to any pc user or any xbox user why do they care i even would have even if they had it separate i even would have bought two copies so there's the benefit one piece there's the benefit of selling someone in xbox to which i would kind of go okay that's a benefit but i don't think particularly near the launch you're making anywhere near 70 or i think it's about 60 50 to 60 is what they is what a tier one pays for a windows license so i don't think you're really even making that much on the hardware and then if it's a pc well then you made that much on it so what do you what do you care you should just want a bigger installer base and a bigger community for your fans and not alienate all of the people that trump for your platform so hard like there's i know so many families where the mom and dad are just like yeah we should just get an imac and the kids like no please no and then they get a pc and it's like this is why your installer base is really large like come on one of the reasons one yeah one of the reasons all right so more bad microsoft news before we have good microsoft stuff uh microsoft confirms the xbox one is more powerful without the connect hookup so this was posted on the forum by misanthrope this ties into a video that we have coming so shortly yeah so they figure it's about 10 10 additional gpu performance can be can be gained which is like kind of huge it's sort of a big deal um like wow i mean it's not going to be the difference between running at 30 fps and 60 fps and we have a really great video coming probably in a couple weeks that's going to be about that but it might be the difference between running at like what is it 882p yeah and a real resolution like 1080p um there was a couple yeah so this is a great post from dlf on the forum we can't just turn off the drm and i don't believe that was actually xbox one i think that was uh that was a that was xbox 360 or something okay and then we can't just disable connect we won't sell xbox one without connect does all of those things but you know what i i am proud of consumers right now for speaking with their wallets because um what they're not really buying xboxes yeah dead rising 3 is coming to pc now is it yeah so by just refusing to settle for an inferior experience we are forcing them to be friendlier to us and to win back our favor well in pc gaming's just like you guys keep on thinking we're going away but no we're just like massive now so screw you guys which is awesome they're ridiculously huge i was talking to someone who was fairly close to me that didn't know what league of legends was and it reminded me of the discussion that we had in the garage way back a long time ago about whether league of legends is mainstream yeah yeah it's not no it's not no it's not that's so weird yeah wait did i get did i get a straw poll to determine that that you're an idiot and did i get an admission that i'm right on the same lan show this is fantastic can i have a fist bump for it too no you're not gonna complete the like the the hat trick no i can't give you all three make the audience put him down have him put himself down and then have him congratulate me for it no it's just it's how amazed that i was because at that point in time i had proved you wrong because you said the last person that would know about it would be approved oh that's this was this was yours won the battle this one yeah this was your decision yeah okay and then my wife knew what it was and then i won but then this was yeah this is the first person that i've ever met that didn't know what it was right but it's like the first person i've ever met that is like outside of yeah and okay ever as in like the last few years i know you know it's funny because i uh we it's you don't think about how isolated or like how how inside of a box how segmented people are yeah and the way that social circles work like it's funny because i've had a few experiences like this lately where um rampage dev the guy that helped us with the hackintosh was like yeah to create the bootable usb um yeah just plug it into a mac and do this i'm like i don't have a mac and he's like oh we'll borrow one i'm like i don't know a single person who owns a mac and he's like what i don't i don't either or at least not someone who would lend me a mac like not someone i could just be like hey can i borrow your computer i do know someone with it but they're like very far away like yeah so so there was that and then there was going to my high school reunion a little while ago oh yeah the tweets that i got from people were hilarious because they were like yeah was everyone like and even my mom was like yeah is everyone gonna be like really impressed that you're like an internet celebrity and i'm like no no really not no one's gonna know what i do nobody even once i explained what i do nobody had any idea even people in my grade people are like you that's a job i'm just like yes yes it is yes making youtube videos is a job and then when they ask what i make them about i would say it's about technology like computers and motherboards and stuff and i could just i could i could actually hear i could hear the switch in their brains going as they turned off whenever i do it they're like oh what do you do i was like oh i make videos about like computer components and all this kind of stuff and then i'm like oh right uh consumer electronics i was like oh yeah i'm like yeah there we go oh you mean like iphones yeah well sometimes no no no no not that second beats unless we're talking about how apple bought them uh yeah let's move on to uh let's move on to that epic fail of a topic right after we do our sponsor segments here so actually like the most exciting sponsor spots is this the first time that we've talked about this this is the first time we have talked about highlander the collaborative project powered by rog notebooks there's going to be some exciting stuff jay-z is not coming on yeah jay-z will not be there because he can't handle this mountain watch jay-z show up at the top of the mountain because he probably could be like yo at the top and i'll be like wow can i have an autograph please can you sign my laptop please so we are going to be going to the summit of mount albert a 4 400 meter above sea level mountaintop and we are going to be having the world's highest elevation terrestrial land party it is a collaborative effort with tech syndicates austin evans is confirmed to be attending something that we had never revealed before um unfortunately lou from unbox therapy can't make it i was super disappointed i really wanted him to come um although but logan luke i will be there i believe kane is coming it's a possibility that we'll have some other pretty cool guys there as well but it should be about 10 of us total making our way to the top of the mountain to have a high altitude lan party because we can the whole endeavor couldn't happen without asus corsair and intel so a huge thanks to asus corsair and intel for making that possible speaking of things that are made possible by our generous sponsors our coverage of e3 is going to be brought to you by the hyperx fury ssd lineup so these are value ssds and as ssds go up in performance and down in price um the high performance ones are making less and less sense every day and the good bang for the buck ones are making more and more sense every day so a huge shout out to kingston our hyperx 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what it is and that's something that you can't say about every company so having been on the inside there i know how things work and i know that they really do care so there you go that's my endorsement of ncix someone suggested that we get lauren to go on the climb with us she didn't want to come on the lan show did she no so i don't know i don't know tell you what we'll ask her okay we'll see we'll see we'll see i have a feeling our videos would get many more views i have a feeling that that is a stereotype okay that gamers think women are attractive have you ever watched videos about a minute this is this is actually this is unrelated to tasty pc this is related to what you just said but watching videos of women in them have you not seen the like browser streamers on twitch like are you kidding me right now you can't even make that argument i didn't say that it was invalid but i was a stereotype i didn't say no you never say no speaking of saying no all the no in the world to this apple defines a spec for lightning connector headphones with 48 kilohertz output apple piss off we do not need we do not need headphones with proprietary connectors that is not a thing we need please don't make it if you stop making eye devices with analog outputs i will well i don't buy any anyway but i will definitely continue not buying them because that's absolutely horrible and to get caught up in some kind of a in some kind of a like race to who can have the highest sample rate on their files is a journey to nowhere because it doesn't actually matter past a certain point also there is there's no there's no reason why you can't have an excellent dac and an analog connection to the speakers that sit inside your ears because effectively that's all that you're doing anyway a digital headphone is just one that has the dac on the other side of the cable instead of having the dac here and then over there the amp and dac actually both of them i suppose it doesn't matter it's still a a speaker is an inherently analog thing there is no benefit to this other than that we are going to be stuck with headphones that only work with iphones and iphones that i mean if they were to actually take the three and a half inch connector off then we'd be stuck with iphones that only work with stupid lightning headphones most of which will be fashion trash i'm sure well beats they'll be beats well though i'm sure someone else probably will love them we'll participate in the maid foreign i think they're making sure that there will be a range of products on launch for this picture this future and i'm about to make your brain melt okay this already did you look at the kinds of like real companies like serious companies that really care like sennheiser that participate in the made for iphone program like the momentum headphones for example why is sennheiser targeting iphone users with these because iphone users will pay more yeah okay sennheiser happened to make legitimately good headphones that are made for iphone but it means that the inline controls don't work on android because they're made for iphone now imagine this imagine sennheiser is put in a position where they have to decide are they making their next pair of great sounding but still fashionable headphones with a lightning connector or a three and a half millimeters could this become a breakaway i don't know maybe because that would make sense but that's totally inelegant and that's not that's not no it's true the apple way like that's not going but it could be breakaway and it doesn't have to be breakaway like okay well apple's already said there will be adapters so yes you can adapt your lightning to make a 3.5 but that's stupid oh it is yeah like adapters are horrible it could be breakaway like it is on that though ah but again these i mean these are 300 iems yeah not everything has that feature that's an uncommon feature no i know but i'm just saying like for the sennheiser headphones that you're talking but these are solutions we shouldn't have to resort i completely agree okay well i'm just saying it it might it might not be as bad i think instead of us playing devil's advocate because i'm obviously very upset right now we should have a moment of silence instead okay okay okay because i what i was really hoping for with this beats acquisition was beats headphones that looked good and sounded good and were built better yeah that's what i wanted out of this this is my worst nightmare yeah this is the worst thing that could have possibly come out of that acquisition well maybe not the worst maybe not the worst thing but it's it's very very very bad it's very terrible and stupid yeah and i need that to not happen yeah all right ah the specification could ah ah anyway none of that's confirmed like apple doing away with three and a half millimeter connectors entirely like these are all conclusions that were made up i mean there are ways that the tech could be cool for example if you had headphones some something that is easier to have a large battery in and every time you plugged your headphones into your iphone it could charge them or something like that like there is room for this to be kind of cool as long as it doesn't get forced on us yeah so i will leave that positive possibility as the last thing that we say on the subject all right no microsoft start menu on windows 8 until 2015. this was posted by nsf ns nfs underground and the original article is from maybe he's trying to recreate the sound of when your your engine is kind of tripping out when you're just revving when you're at the start of the line with it so it's knee for speed underground dude okay so it's not coming in update two to windows eight point to windows eight it will be coming instead possibly with the next update to windows 8 or windows 9 depending on how microsoft decides to roll things out so this is their new mini modern ui start menu personally i don't really care because it'll likely be 2015 by the time i roll a new operating system onto my system anyway um but great so i guess there's that our next topic is the asus sabranco sabranco anyway whatever it's uh it's a tough series motherboard with a white pcb now this is an opportunity for me oh they already got it oh that's a shame because i was looking forward to just going on an ego trip here this was originally posted by t leet so i wanted to uh because asus basically said look if you want to see more white pcb motherboards to match your sexy white pcb hardware we need 500 retweets of this tweet and they were stuck at like 250 and i was like oh on the lan show we should just like we should just double it we should just like crush it so that uh they'll be like whoa where did that come from and we'll be like flexing our internet muscles stop making golden motherboards cause they're dumb just like yeah we don't even care about white motherboards no not at all we just don't want gold motherboards yeah so screw you in your stupid retweets so guys there are 4 300 of you watching the show right now i am counting on you i want to double the number of retweets they have on their right that retweet thing where you retweet and say something at the same time and just say any color other than gold yeah if you if you can so guys you go find that post come on come on come on brothers you gotta help me out here i'm posting this i'm posting this guys you gotta you gotta get on this help me out we gotta make this thing happen all right someone says it's already at 609 i know but i still i still want to i still want to utilize our internet mightiness to and we're trying to yeah we're trying to move we're trying to prove a point yeah we're trying to prove a point the point is white is not necessarily supreme but it's a damn sight better than gold yeah i'd just like not gold yeah just i can i can do something with it if it's not gold yes yeah see i got people saying silver's okay yes silver is totally cool silver's totally cool you know black's coo blue's coo red's coo yellow i'm okay with as long as it's like uv the empower did it pretty well yes and the mpower did it really well yellow yellow's coo you just gotta do right yep so we need you guys to to just help us crush it apparently it's over a hundred it's over a thousand already i love you guys it's awesome yes it totally is you guys are awesome and you made my epeen grow at least three inches today so i appreciate that we have some good microsoft news actually i have a prop for this one do you wanna do you wanna cover this in the meantime sure there's not much to say um microsoft announced that they were going to be whoa some cables got unplugged uh microsoft announced we're failing they announced that you should be able to use the xbox one controller on your pc back in november and it's finally coming or is here already yeah now they're now available for download so yeah and you can connect it to your computer simply with a micro usb cable so this is posted on the forum by demokiller37 although i do have to beat them up a little bit anyway the links are in the are in the thread there to where you can get the drivers for both x86 and x64 versions of windows but get this microsoft is releasing the drivers today at its download site but the company is also planning to distribute them through windows update in the near future microsoft what are you doing what do you mean why aren't they in windows update already oh yeah okay well i thought you were against it being a windows update i was like why not why is any piece of microsoft hardware not in windows update yeah no i completely agree i thought i thought i thought you were against it and that's why i was like why is anything not in windows update yeah if it's wickle certified why is it not in windows update why isn't that part of the procedure why do i have to dink around so happy drivers still i totally thought you're on the other side of this and you're not at all and that's fantastic like timmy if you're watching maybe you can give me an explanation that makes sense but i doubt it why are drivers not in windows update why do i have to think about this why is it easier to plug and play a linux installation and have it automatically work with network drivers than it is a windows one that should never be a thing ever never be a fail every laptop that i've ever tried to install linux on perfect network that's all i need is network drivers because then i can move from there that's fine and then every single time that i've tried to install not every single time but a lot of times i try to install windows on a laptop especially if it's not the windows that it came with horrible almost never get network drivers have to go hunt them down it's annoying and a lot of the time it's not even a matter of like oh derp it's not on windows update a lot of the time it's like oh okay i better go into device manager and like find the vendor id and like pci id string and go google that and find some post on like driver helper full of viruses yeah yeah why do i have to resort to that you know what while i'm bitching about this if anyone from adapttech is watching you guys turn your download servers on after business hours from now on that's super stupid that's like the stupidest thing i've ever seen they turn their download servers for their drivers off outside of like business hours legit legitimately guys go check like i've been diagnosing like a raid card in the middle of the night because that's the only time when you can take down your server yeah yeah and like their download server is just off honestly though a lot of server maintenance happens overnight so like it should they should be oh i'm so mad like so mad ridiculous people are like why is he mad today because things make me a lot of things to be mad about today speaking of things to be mad about this is actually both cool and terrifying yeah um so gun company figures out how to shoot around corners using google glass so basically they've got a super advanced scope on this gun that allows you to use google glass as a site it also compensates for human error compensates for conditions it does all kinds of neat so keen stuff there's a short video it's about a minute long tracking point labs you know part of me is kind of like do we really really need more efficient ways to like put bullets in each other one thing that scares me is like all the stuff that's going on with nsa and stuff right now this is gonna very possibly create a big divide in between um civilian uprising potential and government oh absolutely i mean it's already there you can always night vision goggles are already you know that's actually something that i can't quite figure out why they weren't using thermal imaging to find that moncton uh police killer yeah were they not it took them i didn't follow took them over a full day to find him and he was just kind of hiding in the woods like i don't know maybe maybe it's possible that they're just not that sensitive yet but i just wouldn't do they have military deployed on that they did have military deployed uh i mean they eventually did find him in the woods unarmed they've apprehended him now okay do you know much about i have not been following you yeah i know i know he killed like i know that kind of stuff but he killed three officers and uh and wounded two others one i knew he was very seriously wounded yeah um i just didn't know about them i'm not gonna link to any news stories i'm not going to name him because these people don't deserve any attention uh dragon v2 speaking of people who do deserve attention super cool and freaking elon musk is just the coolest person on the planet so guys oh you should check this out there's not there's not really too much for for us to say about it there's there's the main job i put the main points of the video in here is the the new capsule can hold seven astronauts uh it has propulsion-based landings so it can land on a landing pad it can land pretty much anywhere but someone says you can't thermal through trees so there you go that's interesting um you can land pretty much anywhere but more specifically on a landing pad you don't have to land in the ocean anymore and the heat shielding and stuff on the bottom is much more resistant and can be easily reused so if it can land on a landing pad and just have all the propellant refills very quickly sweet ice fox says elon greater than gabe n uh let's just let's just calm down okay everyone just needs to relax go ahead about elon being greater than gabe everyone just needs to relax they're in they're in completely it's like can you be told can we all just relax and stop being tense thank you we're looking we're looking at different castles here different castles i like that they're not they're both the king of their own castles all right sorry go ahead go ahead the rest of the points and boats um that was actually pretty much it is it can carry seven astronauts um it's very reusable definitely reusable and it can land pretty much anywhere very easily it uses propulsion-based landing like i said so instead of having this crazy parachute like they did before where they just parachute out and then drift down into the water it it slows itself down as it's falling through i think it's i think it's four jets and then evens itself out and then lands with like these kind of spring loaded not really spring-loaded but these feet that can compress not spring-loaded at all um but feet that can compressor it just kind of it's actually very very cool all right we got a straw pole and the inside of this space shuttle is amazing have you seen it uh no okay you can talk about it though it's it's kind of hard to describe once you're done spamming there i can try to jump you forward in the video but essentially you you walk in it looks like super super clean and super futuristic unlike a lot of space shuttles that you see that look like mega ghetto and kind of disgusting and then he sits down in this baller looking chair and swings down this super badass monitor setup it's so cool um yeah he's walking in so he's going to get it he's going to get involved let's go guys so once he gets in there sweet so very nice seats i can't like he doesn't talk about them at all but like they actually look comfortable instead of the terrible things they're doing before and then yeah okay go a little bit back because you got to see him swing down the monitor set up you can see it's up right now he'll pull it down so badass schwoop and then if you can actually see the control panels like it actually looks like futuristic and badass i know that doesn't really matter but like it looks really cool right there you can see all their monitoring panels and like all the stuff in the middle he's got uh spaceship control is that like joysticky thing kind of in the middle and then most of those manual buttons are all emergency things so you don't have to use the other displays and stuff they're all emergency stuff and yeah i don't know i thought this was super cool yeah i was watching and then i ran out of time i actually didn't make it to the end i didn't know he went inside yeah that is awesome it's pretty freaking cool how's that straw poll doing all right let's check out that straw poll castles okay castles castles so we've got 42 of the votes going to gaben 41 of the votes going to castles and 17 going to elon musk although i don't think there's really any denying that elon's uh or mr musk's contributions to humanity as a whole are probably more more impactful than gabe ends but but then how is that that's very difficult to quantify because but because gaben could inspire more people if it's not in the same way it's it's not necessarily lower and gaben did more than just gaming yeah digital digital content distribution and he was a pioneer yeah and he's pushed forward for those like racing that racing thing i don't know anyway yeah it's not really uh i i vote for castles hope for castles you go vote for castles then one vote doesn't matter loser it does actually every vote counts yeah yeah i'm gonna go find it and vote just because you said that so that's fine it took me a second i don't know where it is i give up you can find things to vote for on your own time yeah pretty much all right or thing image you use um yeah i fired up the star citizen uh what's up oh yeah right we actually have something really cool for you guys so i need you to use hashtag linusmassdrop all one word hashtag linusmassdrop and send in your requests for what you would like to see a mass drop deal on we are working with mass drop to basically find one thing that our community really wants to see and bring it to you guys that's it it's simple so everyone take just a minute of your time think of something that you think is really cool hopefully you know electronics or computer stuff or something um and then just use hashtag linusmassdrop and uh tweet that out and we will have someone preferably a lackey and not me go through them all and compile a list of the most popular ones and then we're gonna pick one from there that we think is really cool and we think would be a great mass drop item and we are going to be bringing that to you guys through the mass drop team so be excited about that because it's going to be really really sweet awesome now what were you saying about star citizen i was saying i tried it and the mouse controls are balls so i need to get a joystick i'm actually going to order a usb to game controller adapter so i can use my old top gun joystick but i also have a scitec aviator that i can use in the meantime it just doesn't have that same no it doesn't quality feel to it though i don't really like it so there you go oh well solar freaking roadways we're not doing a mass drop for solar roadways especially because they don't work sorry to spoil that one very cool concept though yeah give it give it a little while longer a lot a while longer and we'll find a way to let everybody like the sun a little better someone says butt plugs i don't think we should ask for butt plugs you can get windows for 50 cents on oh pc it's ludicrous rog jay-z we're never going to be free of that are we no no we're just stuck with it forever okay speaking of things we're stuck with forever we'll be back next week thank you guys very much for tuning in to the wan show we will see you next week i guess normally i say thank you and then i say we'll see you next week but without this getting any more awkward than it already is boom oh that's awkward i didn't leave this in all the right spots so i needed something to do with them e3 also going to be awesome or terrible we're not sure yeah we've never done it before nopeokay guys welcome to the wan show that show every week where me and this guy are all like hey let's like make videos and put them on the internet and then maybe people will watch them let's be on time nope and then people watch them and okay we're only four minutes late today what is this why am i getting french ads i don't know we're in canada poor parties pay all right i'm pausing and i'm pausing and i'm pausing it all right so guys we've got a great show for you today first of all we have a topic that we covered last week sitting in the call outs here i'm going to go ahead and move that one mr lafrenier i believe put that there i don't remember talking about that at all well probably because i did most of the talking because it's the linus show but i feel like i would have had input on that maybe you had me doing something else i'm surprised that you didn't call me out on that it's called the wan show it's not even called the linus show i don't really care you put your name on everything so whatever linus media group linus tech tips what did you want the shirt thing to be called i don't remember but i think that this conversation is uh heading down a picture i had your name in it really not actually that comfortable just really likes hearing his name everyone should just tweet him his name thank you for that please just tweet him his name he will greatly appreciate it all right so why don't we retweet it why don't we move on to our topics for the day microsoft has committed once again to do more for pc gaming but they actually have you're spoiling oh yep it's going to be awesome i'm stopping it's going to be awesome okay ios 8 is on the way so um actually a lot of the features that they're showing off look pretty darn cool some of them are innovative some of them are not but but still good it's about par for the course for any mobile operating system update take everything that you can and add a few things exactly we also have microsoft cortana voice control coming along the way which should be really interesting and the asus uh phonable desktop tablet laptop finance it's not a desktop it's the one thing it's not right asus is five in one pc how do you make a five in one pc well asus will show us but in the meantime guys we'll do the intro yes broken intro do all right so this is interesting our first sponsor this week is actually a group of sponsors we along with tech syndicate will be participating in the world's highest elevation terrestrial land party so we are going to be going to the top of the highest peak in colorado and we will be taking some ahaha some asus gaming notebooks up there we're they're going to be powered by intel core i7s and we're going to have some sweet corsair gaming peripherals of course featuring their rgb keyboards in order to get a land going at 4 400 meters above sea level so there will definitely be videos about this whole thing guys be very very excited it'll be coming sometime in about a month and a huge shout out to asus corsair and intel for making this whole thing possible also something that's coming a little bit more immediately is e3 coverage here online is tech tips we bailed on computex this year as you probably noticed but we'll be doing e3 basically we did computex last year it was extremely expensive and not a whole lot of people watched the content so we're going to try something a little bit different we're going to do we're going to do e3 instead so our gold sponsor 4e3 is hyperx featuring the fury line of performance to price ratio i think the word is value price to performance ratio optimized ssds as well as the corsair rgb keyboard and ncix my bros my my homeboys my dogs do you see that we were being featured on newegg's product site i have seen that you saw that speaking of speaking of my bros ncix i'm sure newegg is so super thrilled to have the host of ncix tech tips all over their uh their site there so yeah it's pretty funny i hope paul and kyle are watching they were tagged in that twitter feed so i know they saw it it's absolutely fantastic i'm sure ncix thinks it's hilarious too oh this is great you're embedding a youtube video chip 700 says so by we're doing e3 does he mean i'm sending slick to e3 yes yes we'll be doing the same kind of thing that we did at pax east again so we'll do a mix of all the hardware stuff that i can find and a few gaming videos sweet yeah no that sounds like that sounds like fun i mean part of it is that we've never covered e3 in any capacity before so this is more like a scouting mission so if it turns out e3 is a total disaster and there's no benefit to us being there then next year we won't yeah exactly so let us know it's not like it's not like packs where i would have to actually tie him down like harder than usual in order to keep him from going what day did i request time off for pax prime it was when we started linus media group so before we actually founded the company so it would have been in december of 2012 you asked for the time off in september of 2013. that i think it was like the second day i started working with you before we founded the company people are saying audio is actually normal for once which is hilarious because i actually took out the compressor we're not using a balanced output off the mixer i'm going into like a crappy rca input on something i we actually we know what the problem is now i know what the problem is now we need an amp and then we need a couple more adapter cables and we're going to be able to get the audio like bang on uh the issue is that this juiced link amp kind of sounds like poo it's the one that we use whenever we film things on the blackmagic camera and everyone complains so i got the levels sounding really good on this one um and so that that didn't quite work though because it just sounds kind of poopy and then i tried an objective two but they're not really meant to be used this way so i didn't really work i need balanced inputs and outputs in order for it to work properly the whole chain has to be kind of the same thing and then i didn't have the right xlr to quarter inch adapters and all that so it just didn't quite work but guys it is definitely going to happen also as for the white balance i'm actually not sure i think that is a bit of uh i think that is a bit of a problemo but uh we're just gonna have to go with it because welcome to the wand show where we go live at some time that's somewhere around 4 30 and hopefully things are okay and the color's wrong and the audio sucks yeah whatever screw you guys no we love you guys please keep watching please don't leave please don't maybe i need you oh speaking of the lan show uh and technical difficulties all right how much you want to bet we get a blue screen hold on hold on hold on don't do it yet don't do it yet hold on okay and hit it oh what's interesting that was so not expected so that's probably yeah no i get it i get it i get it we gotta add boom all right hold on hold on hold on hold on not yet not yet oh yeah okay yeah no no it's fine we're all good we're all good you're good all right hit it and then yes look at us in that corner over there that's adorable you're like you're like a cute little ogre oh i didn't have colored hair then what were they called were they ogres i don't know trolls trolls okay no if someone here was a troll it would be me so all right so we may have a wireless standard coming oh my god that is theoretically faster than any wired standard that we can get at a consumer level and i gotta kind of sit here and wonder what is the point of these faster and faster wireless standards when they never work right anyway can you please all focus your out i know that wireless is exciting and intel had that whole thing where they're like wireless by 20 what was it 2016 or 2018 would like replace everything or whatever it was seven gigabit per second thing they want your display and your peripherals to all be wireless and i'm kind of sitting there looking looking at going okay so intel out of one side of your mouth you're going wireless everything and out of the other side of your mouth you're working with me with apple on the mac pro which is like the octopus of wires well maybe the idea is that a mac pro released around that time wouldn't have to be an oculus octopus of wires hold on hold that thought wireless octopus you think item just like randomly curls around your desk and annoys your cat you know i was looking into it because i have a bit of uh i have a bit of an infatuation with remote control gears gear and as much as i am a crappy heli pilot i'm actually i'm no i'm a better plane pilot than a heli pilot but not by much and cars i basically have never really used a decent one so i'm definitely not good with those so but i still i love that stuff i geek out over it so i was looking to see if you can get a really sweet rc submarine because i actually built one in my grade 11 technology class like we did it as a project so we made them out of pvc and then what you'd do is you'd put as much styrofoam as you need to make it neutrally buoyant once you have your motors and your and your wires and everything on it and we actually made fully functional submarines like everyone in the class made one uh we we made our own watertight motors out of film canisters it's funny because my son won't even know what a film canister is yeah i know but they're so useful for that kind of stuff out of film canisters and then wax seals with motors inside them so they stay dry and they could actually move in every direction so we had xyz axis movement and um the thing i didn't like about them though was that obviously some kind of a wireless transmitter that's going to be able to punch through water is going to be either non-existent or very expensive so we were stuck with a wired control so no matter how perfectly neutrally buoyant you made the thing as it moved up in the water there would be more weight on it and as it moved down there would be less yeah so you would never have that that perfect control of it so i was looking i was just like is there a hobbyist grade remote control submarine that you can put like a gopro on because yeah it's the kind of thing you'd use once the gopro part of that would be really cool you'd be like yeah this is cool now i'll never do it again but like whatever but you can kind of go diving with it yeah kind of yeah yeah you could go see like fish or stuff you take it with you on vacation or whatever maybe not once but not that often but they don't really have anything so speaking of yeah just wireless basically not working so anyway huawei has tested wi-fi based on future standard 802.118x that can hit 10.5 gigabit per second so that's about 10 times faster than what you typically get at a nato 2.11 ac connection today this was posted by qwerty warrior on the forum the trick the company says is making more efficient use of the airwaves thank you for that highly technical elaborate explanation of the trick huawei the new technology is smarter at allocating wireless spectrum juggling data between multiple antennas and cutting back on interference they don't even have to switch to ultra high frequencies to make the magic happen it works at five gigahertz which is great because an inherent property of those higher frequency signals is that the range will be shorter so it's good that we don't have to go any higher than that you're still a long way from picking one of these up they figure that they may hit the market sometime in 2018. i guess it's just frustrating because wireless is getting all these developments dumped into it and we're still using gigabit wired why why why why we're trying to move away from that yeah we're trying to move away from it but it's extremely expensive and no one's really putting the effort into making it affordable the cabling is not that bad no the wiring is fine it's the switches and the adapters yeah that you'll spend a ton of money on and it's frustrating because you heard jj talking about it yeah what did he say it was going to add about 150 dollars to the bomb club so if they can integrate it onto a motherboard for 150 where's my 150 nick or 165 170 whatever the case may be like no one's even really making an effort they're content to just let it sit there as a high-end solution forever and i really think that with ssds increasing in speed the way that they are looking at how nvme so that's the replacement for ahci the communication protocol by which the ssd communicates with your system so looking at what they can do with nvme in terms of improving throughput and reducing latency there's no reason why two pcs on the same network with a couple of high-speed pci express or m.2 ssds couldn't be transferring files to each other at like two gigabytes per second like let's do this let's do it did i say two gigabytes per second because what i meant to say was like 200 megabytes per second you know actually a lot more than that 500 600 700. not not 200 yeah not sorry sorry sorry sorry yes so that never happened there's a few numbers in there that you can't ignore the numbers you should be paying attention to are we could easily be doing 500 plus megabyte per second transfers across the network um straight from drive to drive which is very very cool all right now this this topic this is an interesting this is an interesting topic the thing that can do all the things now i really liked what was it the uh the transformer book duo or trio the one that you could just press a button to switch between and where the where the android and windows operating systems were actually running off of the same drive like it was more like a dual boot this is a little bit different my friends so the transformer book v or five i'm assuming let's say five pretty sure five okay it's a five in one it's an android tablet an android smartphone a windows tablet a windows laptop and something a windows phone android windows what the hell is this thing so basically it's everything you can you what you do is i'm going to here i'm going to blow up this picture off uh a little bit here yeah you can you can click the phone in the back and you can click the screen to the keyboard yes so much like previous transformers there is a hard drive down here in the keyboard because there's only an ssd up here in the tablet piece you've also got an extended battery in the tablet i believe so the phone has you know what here i'm just gonna go i'm gonna go back to my uh to my cheat sheet for this thing here so yeah so there's a 2500 milliamp hour battery in the phone and then a four thousand somewhat milliamp hour battery in the tablet i believe unless that's in the keyboard this is the most confusing thing ever the point is the phone has a 1080p screen and actually um a pretty high-end spec as far as phones are concerned and then the tablet is a 12 and a half inch ips display and everything kind of slots into everything the tablet itself doesn't have android running off of it that's actually going to run off of the phone hardware so it's a windows laptop and an android phone essentially that can just like slowly come together yeah this thing is like freaking bizarro though it's kind of cool i am less on board with this one than i am with the uh the last one that we looked at to be perfectly honest i i just but didn't they get booted out of that for some reason yes but that was such an elegant solution because you had one set of hardware so on the same atom processor you could run your android os or your windows os and you could switch between them in like three or four steamboats whereas this one you can switch between them but it's more like using one as a display off of which the other one's running they're not actually running on the same hardware so it's an intel atom cpu in the tablet and then it's a qualcomm snapdragon 800 or something like that in the other piece so my notes for this one actually aren't that uh aren't that complete and of course control f doesn't work in internet explorer because i'm a genius and i'm using internet explorer everyone rips on you about that like every single show i don't think it's listed yeah it's not listed i was i was looking at a couple of different articles where it has a little bit more information than the gizmodo one so okay that would explain why i can't find it so tell me guys it's in terms of device convergence would you want a a a a dummy device like this something that uh i think i think if it makes sense financially i could see myself doing it like if i wanted all these things and for some reason had to refresh them all at the exact same time which is weird and it like made sense financially then i could see myself spending money on it if it's actually a good device i think we'd have to use it first and this is going to be something that i definitely want to see in the store if i was a random consumer because i'd want to like actually try clicking it in and make sure that the phone is not just gonna like fall out of the back and other things like that that i would want to try i don't know okay so here we go we've got a summary from asus up now so it is hem a windows notebook a windows tablet an android phone an android tablet and an android laptop so that is how the whole thing works and the detachable android smartphone is detachable so that's the piece that is not not windows phone at all so this is interesting okay okay here here we go here we go here we go so it wasn't a qualcomm chip on the uh on the phone that's actually that's actually very interesting so it is an atom quad core on the phone and then it is a next-gen core processor on the notebook tablet piece itself so this gives us a much better rundown of the overall specs yeah so 64 up to 64 gigs on the phone up to 128 gigs on the tablet with the one terabyte one being detachable in the keyboard there we go much more clear maybe next time we should go to the manufacturer's site in the first place i really hope we get a unit of this because i'd definitely be interested in checking it out and giving it a shot i should probably let them know that we'd be interested in checking it out speaking of things that we're interested in checking out asus has been doing their pad phones so phones made by asus android phones for a while in other markets uh taiwan in particular you've been able to get a pad phone for like a couple of years now yeah um it gets covered in the north american media a little bit but understandably not much because they haven't been available here but it's finally coming so this is probably where i got that snapdragon thing that was sitting in my head because this one does use a snapdragon 800 processor but basically it's a high-end phone it's going to be 200 with a contract and uh we are definitely getting a unit for reviews so it's got a five-inch screen 1920 by 12 wait hold on a second right sorry this one no wonder i was confused this one's a phone and it docks to a tablet but in this one the tablet is just a dummy yeah it's basically just a screen except that it also has a keyboard and it's probably cheaper yeah so this one is a 2300 milliamp hour battery in the phone and a 49 90 milliamp hour battery in the tablet so you put them together and what do you got bippity boppity bop bigger battery um fascinating i mean okay we need to create a straw poll for this or something can you get a straw poll going so are you interested in a phone that merges with a tablet and guys give us your thoughts on twitter as well just hit me at linus linustech we're going to do a twitter blitz on this what would you need to see so between the notebook that has an android operating system and a windowed windows operating system running on two completely separate pieces of hardware and it's like notebook slash tablet slash detachable phone versus the pad phone x which is a phone with like a tablet dock that the phone goes into uh so anyway the phone has a 1080p screen the tablet's got a nine inch screen the whole thing runs android they're claiming up to 10 hours of battery life for video playback and what an interesting device i'm actually really looking forward to checking this out results so far are extremely even at 51 and 49 wow i think this is the most even poll we've ever had holy balls okay well we'll give you guys the results of that if you can i am that over to me then i'll check it out in a moment but guys we've got some pictures here that i want to put up on the screen from the end gadget article about the pad phone x so here's the way that the phone and as you can see it'll be on the at t network so here's the way that the phone docks into the back of the pad phone station which is the nine inch 16 by 10 19 20 by 1200 tablet for 200 bucks on contract would you accept a little bit of a reduction in terms of like fancy specs and features like what you might get on an htc one m8 for a more basic phone but one that comes with a tablet now that you've actually spent some time using a tablet probably not i know that it might sound surprising because i was i am surprised but that tablet was only 200 bucks in itself but this is 200 bucks on contract and the tablet-y part comes with your phone that you are and let's assume you already need a phone yeah but then at the same time uh independent batteries is kind of nice they do have independent batteries can the tablet charge the phone i'm not sure exactly how it works or does it just just run off the battery on the tablet hard to say hard to say and it can run independently is kind of nice as well yeah which it can't yeah because like i don't know there's wow it's exactly 50 50. what the heck um i put it in the dock it's right but being able to run it independently is nice uh that way like if someone's over and you have your chromecast set up to be able to stream things off your tablet they can be looking at your tablet and you can still have usability of your phone other things like that would be nice um if it's gonna be like fifty dollars more compared to buying an equivalent phone and you just get this tablet dock thing as well i think that's pretty cool and i'd probably go for that which does kind of make sense it sounds like what it actually is so i'd probably be i'd probably be down wow but i'm not super into buying phones on contract anymore anyways that's exactly 50 50. well no is technically winning but like yeah not by much if anyone hasn't uh yeah if anyone hasn't voted yet we can go ahead and pop that in there again but that is absolutely amazing so it looks like there's definitely some interest in the whole tablet phone merger thing but it remains to be seen if anyone other than asus has the uh has the wherewithal or the willingness or whatever you would call it yeah wants to make one i mean it's the kind of thing you can see samsung kind of going whoa something we didn't think of let's make one too and then so everything that samsung does yeah pretty much it's like an idea we're not sure if it's good or not but let's make sure that we're talking about our bases and make really bad commercials to go along with them ah you know they were on a roll for a bit that whole next best thing was great and then their most recent one that they will not stop playing on youtube is actually pretty okay is it okay i haven't seen that one yet all right um their their their watch and their phone at the same time in one commercial okay but it's like it's not that bad it's it's fairly upbeat it doesn't have a terrible storyline like the one with the guy picking up the chick with his smart watch yeah yeah none of that kind of stuff it's just it's just kind of an upbeat commercial in it that was really hard to watch it was it was like painful all right so let's see it looks like no is actually winning now but only by two percent let's hit the twitters all right okay all that twitter interaction that we often forget to do sometimes these days it's not a crazy angle do you want me to turn it uh sorry do you want me to turn this sure yeah that couldn't hurt whoa that's kind of trippy when someone turns the monitor while you're holding the mouse still it's like oh my mouse is moving man oh wow whoa man all right so the original phone pad distributes the battery power evenly not sure if the new one does though that's interesting so either one could charge off the other i guess right that would be kind of cool okay craigl says not a fan of the combination of the two if one breaks then i have half a tablet i don't see the benefit to having them connect okay that's interesting but i mean by that logic why buy a stereo that has both left and right speakers because then if one of the speakers fails you only have half a stereo that's not even right because they disconnect yeah if one of them breaks you either have a tablet and not a phone or you have a phone and not a tablet you will know because the tablet won't work without the phone so you've either got a phone and no tablet or you have nothing so if your phone breaks you're totally screwed yes yeah yeah i don't know but that's not really i have my pad phone x pre-ordered i get an almost top of the line phone and tablet on one data plan that that's a good point it's a very good point the data plan point because for some reason the wireless carriers are still determined to fleece us on the whole idea that we should be able to use our data across multiple devices it's like i i just stopped so annoying stuff battles that were won you know a hundred years ago like you know i actually now that i think of it it's not that different from other things i mean you look at um you look at the way that your cable tv provider once you switched off of analog where you could just use splitters and they kind of like were like oh yeah you need a digital box rent another digital box for every tv yeah it costs extra um yeah i guess that's just the way everything's going you have to subscribe per device rather than per person it's very annoying except except for netflix you just have to subscribe per device that's streaming at that point in time it's whatever works out better for whoever's providing it to you so you look at something like windows if i could license windows per person i'd be thrilled and that's per device and then you look at actually what is per person oh boy world isn't uh adobe creative cloud technically per person oh yeah that's per person but it's just not infinite amount of devices it's like three or something two yeah two devices so basically it's like uh but you can bounce around you just can't be logged in working on that many at one time that's all okay if they can make the phone not protrude so weirdly and the specs are still solid and the batteries good i'd get a combo dealio you know i don't see how they would do that anytime soon though unless it was more like the phone kind of clips on because you're gonna want the tablet to be really thin and you're gonna want the phone to have support while it's clipped in unless it was like unless there was yeah i can't think of a good way to do that not really we're also not engineers though i would be interested in a phone tablet hybrid but i feel if the tab is nine inches the phone is a bit too big at five inches five inches is not that big of a phone these days though which is funny to me because i still feel weird i still find it big because my hands are still small they didn't change because screen sizes became a fad that got bigger um and i find nine inches is a pretty comfortable size for a tablet that's only a little bit smaller than the ipad so really i didn't say anything nine inches is a comfortable size for a tablet i didn't even pause suggestions i didn't say anything you can click in whatever you want will says i would need to see a quad core on everything greater than six pounds total weight what are you asking for why would you want a six pound tablet all right will you're done i think he's done his things wrong most phones have the specs to power a tablet anyway yeah it's basically the same hardware i mean you look at the apple side of things they're just putting the same chips in their phones and their tablets makes sense for them to converge but only if it's cheaper than two devices and if you're saving money on the hardware and on the data plan and basically you're just buying another screen in a shell then there's definitely a savings to be had yeah yeah as a mobile game developer i need top end hardware both of these are clearly lacking high-end cpus and gpus um in what way because there's actually only one cpu and one gpu the tablet doesn't have one so this is running a hold on if i can find it yeah yeah you see both of these as in the tablet dock and the phone or is he talking about this and the transformer five i'm not sure it's very hard for me to say at this point in time um but yeah it's a snapdragon 800 so it's not it's i mean it doesn't get a whole load faster than that in terms of a mobile cpu i mean the 805 is marginally better at certain things but it's not a quantum leap forward or anything like that so i don't see that making much of a difference all right should we move on to our next topic here sure all right what do we got the monitor that you're probably gonna be excited about actually believe it or not i'm not or are we gonna nope nope we're gonna keep doing is topics uh why not oh is there a monitor that i will be excited about no i was just saying like it seemed to be one big call of misus well it was computex computex is a big show for taiwanese companies so it makes a lot of sense that asus would have had a lot going on there so why not this is the pa328q it's a 32 inch 4k so that's 138 pixels per inch factory calibrated just like pro arts tend to be 10 bit color 100 srgb wide color gamut capable it's got three hdmi inputs one of which supports mhl so you can output off your phone to your monitor as if anyone's ever done that ever um i was corrected about that today by the way i was telling um the wheels over at ncix that i think that tablets outputting to tvs doesn't matter because chromecast is sort of a thing and yeah he's like nope i do it all the time why i i couldn't quite understand what he was talking about but basically i concluded that he's drunk so how are you proved wrong here i don't understand so what's exciting about this one even though asus doesn't have a clear idea of when exactly it will be released or what exactly the price will be it will be considerably cheaper than the three thousand dollar pq series um which was launched actually i believe the first time we saw it was computex last year i think so it's amazing the way prices are dropping on them 4ks eh it's exciting yeah it might be reasonable at some point in time and in terms of the actual display quality well it's not 100 clear what it'll be right now they're not actually telling us what panel type it'll be but 10 bit color factory color calibrated this could actually be anything hard to say anyway this is the same size as that one has a whack ton of inputs is much much cheaper and should be landing sometime in the next sort of little while uh but they're ending they're aiming for about half the price of the older pq so we should be looking at like 1500 to 2000 ish somewhere in that range so why not interested uh because i just don't care about 4k anymore oh because you want your wide format yeah i'm done 4k is until scaling is fixed yeah then i i can't i can't bring myself to use it i'm not gonna upgrade to a display that makes some things look extremely sharp and other things look worse than before and something's incredibly hard to read and weird website formatting and all this other and all that stuff that that you know microsoft and application developers really needed to be working on over the last few years as opposed to oh 4ks here oh i guess we better do something some of them are reacting some just aren't some just aren't reacting at all and that that kind of attitude is what sets apple apart and i know i come across as a bit of an apple fanboy but some of the things that they do are really really good and they're good things the fact that they figured out how to make scaling work properly on their os's before rolling out the hardware that supports it or at the same like put just putting in the work to make sure that things actually function the way that they intend is uh is the kind of thing i feel like i should be able to take for granted but i know that i can't no not at all not on our platforms so speaking of apple shilling yeah ios 8. actually pretty pretty excited to try ios 8. um some of the stuff here doesn't look that interesting i mean home kit is going to be really exciting okay mcafee just screw off go away um homekit is going to be either a massive success in the future or there's going to be something else that completely destroys it and is way better but that's apple's apple's way of integrating their device with home automation stuff like your blinds or your thermostat or your door lock um they're building security into it so that the theory is that no one can unlock your door except you what's i mean what's interesting is with that whole thing with people remotely locking iphones and then holding them for ransom um that was that was one thing but oh my god breaking into people's phones and breaking into people basically breaking into someone's ecosystem of digital devices is gonna be a really scary thing you know what would be interesting would be offline phones like having having a phone which is like your public phone which you don't store anything super crazy on are you a drug dealer and then having like a phone that you don't put a sim card in do you often cheat on women what why are you why is two phones your solution to every problem you've been watching too much breaking bad i do that a lot too i have two phones right now anyways um no to both those questions but seriously you could have one that's set up for all your home automation and everything yes that does not connect to the internet okay so you don't have to worry nearly as much about getting hijacked you could still possibly get hijacked through other devices or whatever but it's going to be extremely difficult and it would probably have to be targeted directly at you instead of just a random i think this is an incredibly stupid solution to the problem wow why that's so mean because it's the same reason no way okay basically mobile phones have huge security holes so completely removing that security hole is helpful basically what you're suggesting is we bring back the pda kind of an offline phone yeah no why because it's stupid if you're worried about your house getting trouble hijacked straw poll okay fine straw poll offline offline phones do they need to be a thing or is slick an idiot those can be the only two options yes we need these luke is an idiot i'm gonna get destroyed sometimes you don't think before you talk no i actually still agree with this though but it doesn't have to be a phone it could be just like a a device that can control okay but i think the kind of device you're thinking of is just it's like is like way overkill what i see happening is it's like that's what i mean it doesn't happen yeah like whatever it is it should be some device that has no internet connectivity and can go with you i think i would still want to screen i just want to see a straw poll where everyone calls you an idiot that was most of it i still want a screen that's why i said phone would you need a screen once you're more immersed in a wearable type of ecosystem so your glass as of right now i do think so because well glasses can be connected to the internet if you connect your glass to that device then you're just creating a hole what if you don't what if you what if you just go like what if you just touch your ring against your glass it goes into airplane mode hold on what if it just acts as a display so the processing's here everything is here except just a display link there's there's no way to my knowledge there's no way to hack a dvi connection like that's a pretty minor issue i don't really know so if you if you use that as a control so basically you just had your glass and then you could like gesture or do whatever else or type in the air or whatever solutions they end up coming up with i think that's feasible so a wearable is probably the right answer here but i would still want to i don't know i don't know i don't i don't think connecting it to because it's not dvi i'll tell you what tell you what i will i will bring my old hp pocket pc in but that's not the same it's not helpful it has because i would want it to be it has 733 megahertz oh no 533 megahertz i was like that's actually pretty fast x scale processor all right it's got like uh this is not the point it's not like 128 i can have it connected to my parents house i can have it connected to my house i could have it connected to say my significant other's house and then whenever i go there it can recognize me and i can change different things on the device but then it's not connected to the internet so i don't have to worry about those things leaking i have 64 megs of compact flash storage stupid pocket pc that's not what i'm trying to describe yeah that's not the thing in my pocket you care about i guess no it's not all right let's go ahead and uh not as many people grilled me as i thought okay where's uh where's our straw pool it's it's put up oh oh oh oh bollocks there we go all right no no no where's where's ours i just posted it you just keep looking away whenever i post it to you there we go all right so let's have a look at the results of the poll here wow actually you're doing better than i thought 42 of people are blindly following you off of the abyss like the lemmings that they just want everyone's house to get locked and 658 percent of you are saying that that's basically a stupid idea from a student 658 well i might have embellished so they're all following the dude that like can't read anything at all just adds numbers you know what not being able to read is a specific learning disability that actually you have and i don't that's no i can still read right but slowly yes yes but that's not what yeah that's right it's not right at all it's getting personal now and you're just wrong at least i don't wet my pants during the show i don't what you said you were so sweaty that your pants were wet actually that was me but that was so not true at all he literally said that like last week what now you're making oh man you're just saying things about yourself and then that doesn't even make any sense i'm projecting oh my goodness i'm a troubled person um all right so back to ios 8. it's available for developers in beta now and it'll get a full release in the fall we are finally getting third-party keyboards which is something that i was really disappointed about with uh moving from android back to ios going back to being stuck with just one keyboard was was was grinding my gears and this is this is one big step towards me being able to use ios again um they do their own their own keyboard is also getting some enhanced functionality in terms of an auto prediction that predicts the next word based on people that you're talking to and whatever else so basically like swiftkey except with even tighter integration um i wonder if i wonder if the custom keyboard apps would be able to access that as well i would hope so i would hope so because that would be nice because i doesn't does an iphone have that thing where it like doesn't let you swear and stuff no or can you add it to dictionary oh yeah i don't i've never extensively used an iphone so i don't know um so you can reply directly from the notification pull down thing so you got interactive notifications um their mail app which i never use because the gmail one is way better has gestures for removing flagging and such their health kit thing is basically apple jumping on the whole bandwagon of you know heart monitors and whatever what's kind of cool about health kit is you can actually have your results being automatically sent over to like mayo clinic or your doctor or something like that so someone else can be helping you helping you track your activity um homekit i guess is where we got sidetracked uh photos taken with any ios 8 device will be available via icloud so it's like okay great kind of like bittorrent sync or dropbox or dropbox i guess whatever um 200 gigs of icloud is 3.99 siri now has shazam integration which is pretty cool because opening up shazam was a lot of work and then finally it's coming to the iphone 4s or newer and get this the ipad 2 is getting ios 8. that's actually kind of interesting that is fantastic do some pretty crazy stuff in terms of backwards compatibility i mean that's great i have tablets from that era that are running like 4.0 yeah that's great it's like kind of brutal i i actually i'm more interested in the shazam integration than i think you are because it would be nice like especially if you're driving you don't want to touch your phone you don't want to go open shazam and you don't want to be like siri open shazam or whatever okay you're probably right because you said they're they're adding hello siri kind of support aren't they hey siri hey siri yeah so if if you can do completely hands list like touchless completely without any worrying that would be kind of nice to be able to check songs and stuff yeah you're prob you're probably right it's probably a bigger deal than i'm giving it credit for because it is something that i use a fair bit because i don't really pay attention to celebrities and no me neither releases i'll just be like i'll be in the mall and some horrible song will be on the radio and i'll be like wow that sounds great what is it yeah i hear you that's funny i gotta get me some of that some of that top 40. all right should we save let's save the microsoft promises to do more for pc gaming for later so first up is cortana oh my god i'm so excited i'm actually stoked for this yeah do you want to cover this one because uh sure the the i've been super super interested in voice controlling devices for quite a while now and i've been waiting for cortana announcements and being able to listen to it more in depth and see them talk about it all that kind of stuff so i was super excited to see this if you go to this website either i think both of them have it but engadget or vg247 um you can you can listen to audio clips of her talking uh it's it's essentially the answer to google now in siri for windows phone and i think they're adding it to xbox as well but she should be able to have casual conversations with you as well which is fairly interesting and creepy it's creepy but not necessarily because if she could i'm old and afraid of technology so it's kind of creepy but go ahead okay i don't think it's that creepy but i guess i'm not not as old as lionesses i just don't expect it to work very well because they're they like in the articles they have examples of like kind of cheeky things that she'll say like if you ask her if she's better than siri she says not to brag but apparently i'll help save the universe in about 500 years and i'm just kind of like yeah but all those are like anything that relies on a pre-programmed response is always going to not be that great it's like it's like bullet holes in the side of a house in a game until we get to the point where the wood dynamically breaks upon impact from the bullet it's gonna look like a video game yeah yeah that's true sorry go ahead but because it's all in server they're planning on adding things like uh jokes and all this kind of stuff as time goes on every two weeks i think they were saying yeah so things like it can go along with current events so if you ask it about current events it can have topical things to say about all that kind of stuff so while you're completely right and it's gonna add this weird thing where like you could ask her the same question a billion times and she's probably gonna say the same thing every time yeah and that's gonna sound a little bit weird like same thing down to the letter yeah so that might be a little bit weird and a little bit disconnecting they're they're going to be adding to it all the time which should help that a lot and and you're kind of right at the same time there's going to be this disconnect the conversations aren't going to feel super natural all kind of stuff i'm i'm sure that's going to happen but this is the start i also just don't really have any desire to converse with my phone not really if it could like i don't know because i really really like um okay google now what's up yeah but it's horrible it is so terrible and it is not useful and okay you might have to uh you might have to sort of i don't have my phone on a laptop i wish i could do i would do a live demo but i don't um it's i'll go like i'll have some emails and some text messages and whatever and i'm like okay google now what's up and it's like hello luke the time is 6 47 p.m you have two emails subject line blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah okay done you have text messages from don k bye it's like what that was where's the interactivity how do i say oh hey reply to that message can't respond to anything i don't i don't need to know the time every single time uh the the longest part of her talking to me is her making sure that she takes time in between words saying hello luke the time is blah blah blah then once she gets to her email she blurts email and text messages she blurts out things super fast doesn't always read them correctly um like rifles through it doesn't say who it's from like i'll get text it'll be like you have a text message body of the message doesn't say who it's from can't reply to it i'm just like what i was like subject line i want you so bad right now it's like who is this from there could be a dozen different people i'm such a player that's not what oh my god okay anyways but like there are a lot of messages that aren't like that that could be from anyone um so i don't it's annoying and like if someone sends me a text message that's like hey are you on the way this is the time where it would be amazingly helpful my phone goes off it says i have a text message okay google now what's up blah blah blah blah says hey are you on the way oh respond yeah i'm just driving that would be amazing well one of the problems that i have with with what i've had with google's voice activation in general and they fixed one of them recently to their credit like i gotta i gotta give them props for this was the way their voice styling used to work is you'd say call whoever work or mobile and it would say do you want to call blah blah blah yes or i think no no i think it was um calling whoever uh would you like to call blah blah work would you like to call blah blah blah mobile called this one like it didn't just let you do it in one go yeah and then it's a and then i think it would ask you to confirm or something like that and like no just when i say it do it just do it and i think i think part of they fix that now right and i think with uh like moto x i think you can have it detect if you're driving and if you're driving i think it will do a little bit better than okay google now does right but then and then like okay google now isn't even on a massive amount of devices so what yeah it's just on moto x right now yeah my knowledge so like what oh it's just okay google you don't have to say google now anymore i don't think i've tried that oh it's not working for you maybe it just doesn't like my voice for when i say that it could be because you and i have had apparently lots of problems with google now that no one else in the entire universe has had so anyway i'm going to give i'll give windows phone 8 another crack once cortana rolls out it's been over a year since i've tried it that was back when windows phone 8 was first kind of rolling out and i'm i'm pretty excited about it all i'd like to see what what it's like and i don't know that it's going to convince me to switch back to windows phone in fact i sincerely doubt it but with some of the great devices available on windows phone like nokia's latest flagship which i can't remember what it's called but it's really good and it's got a great camera um and nokia's latest okay so there's only one but that's okay i'm i still really want to try it out uh what else we got here all right should we get into microsoft is going to do more for pc gaming really this time it's different they're like an abusive spouse at this point all right so this was originally posted on the forum by john there's some sort of action you know what i i'm whatever you go be a microsoft fan no i know until i see some kind of action i'm on your side are you on my side because it didn't seem like it before when you were suggesting that we all start carrying pdas around again and that was why i had to abuse you i hope you realize this is your fault this is not a good way to go oh my god this is why i have to hit you this hurts me more than you horrible okay okay so microsoft's recent acquisition of the pc centric rise of nations franchise is just the first step in microsoft's efforts to do more in the pc also known as only according to xbox boss phil spencer a fan asked spencer on twitter why microsoft had acquired rise of nations and announced a re-release for steam to which the veteran xbox boss said steam is a great place to sell win 32 games we acquired the ip for future work i'm a big fan of the franchise the fan is apparently a yahoo because this fan responded by saying they aren't interested in installing steam praise beta gave in but would rather enjoy a games for windows live replacement praise be to gabe um wait wait what what really that part of this yeah the the fan is basically off his rocks so it's not a fan this is a planted person no i have no idea i have never met or talked to a single person ever that has thought games for windows live was anything other than no microsoft has already said they're they're not expecting to create a direct competitor for steam and they shouldn't i'd like to see more collaboration yeah we've brought up about how ubisoft needs to give up and reskin steam okay so at any rate we're just having you play this article blah blah blah etc etc microsoft whatever has committed more directx 12 blah blah blah so this is great um someone point brought this to johnner's attention and it was added to the original post it's a post from 2013 that chronicles all the times that microsoft has said this in 2005 we care about pc gaming longhorn that's the code name for vista um blah blah blah to usher in modern pc gaming with trey and play do you guys remember that games folder for vista that is gone now okay well vista launched with none of the stuff they promised uh vista was not popular 2006 i think actually the what the article says is vista itself sucks the ass of a thousand camels but i decided to make that not void but then you just said it that's true i did but i was a it was a direct quote all right so wouldn't have changed saying it in the first place 2006 microsoft says don't count pc games out and they announce games for windows live talk about how amazing it will be in 2007 they continue the pc push they launch games for windows live with a 50 a year fee genius thanks for saving they also they also announce a whole slew of games to include uh shadow run with cross platform play playing gears of war one and blah blah blah cross-platform play where what happened to cross-platform play they realized that pc gamers were going to destroy i'm sorry if you're a console gamer in the audience but i'm so much faster with the keyboard and mouse it's not gonna happen 2008 um yay we got rid of the 50 a year fee see we're serious about pc gaming 2008 pc gaming's not dead look at this event we're throwing 2008 uh all new games for windows live it's got a new skin 2009 pc gaming is still a priority for us it's really vital for us we're still serious guys 2010 we're doubling down which means games for windows live is still here and we'll update some stuff to fix the problem of game saves being deleted uh 2010 games for windows live marketplace these are all things 2010 windows 8 is going to relaunch gaming um just like we promised back in 2006 2012. we won't ditch games for windows live 2013 we're discontinuing windows live thank you um 2013. microsoft promises core first party games coming to pc so forgive me if i give exactly zero craps about microsoft's recommitment to the pc because it really just i mean you look at the rumors circulating about how you know there's at least some discussion about canning the xbox division altogether never mind pc gaming which was the red-headed stepchild eight years ago i mean okay with all of that said with all of that said anyway blah blah spencer says part of my xbox role is to bring back our windows gaming focus i mean there is there the opportunity has been missed time upon time with the original xbox there was an opportunity to get xboxes rolled out as media streamers which actually there are still some deployed today yeah as media streaming boxes to to get rolled out as an inexpensive media streaming box that happens to also be a cheapo gaming console and then to bring that library of games to pc gamers and xbox gamers alike throw mouse and keyboard compatibility at the xbox so that there isn't that inherent disadvantage and and make it all one big ecosystem which would have been amazing then go and add windows phone and tablet and all this stuff to it to keep things segregated the way they do never made any sense to me what could they have possibly been thinking developing games for just one platform instead of all the platforms i mean you look at what microsoft has invested in the typical in a typical pc okay so let's say they develop a piece of software let's say for example halo okay halo 2 or whatever doesn't matter the point is if they could sell that to any pc user or any xbox user why do they care i even would have even if they had it separate i even would have bought two copies so there's the benefit one piece there's the benefit of selling someone in xbox to which i would kind of go okay that's a benefit but i don't think particularly near the launch you're making anywhere near 70 or i think it's about 60 50 to 60 is what they is what a tier one pays for a windows license so i don't think you're really even making that much on the hardware and then if it's a pc well then you made that much on it so what do you what do you care you should just want a bigger installer base and a bigger community for your fans and not alienate all of the people that trump for your platform so hard like there's i know so many families where the mom and dad are just like yeah we should just get an imac and the kids like no please no and then they get a pc and it's like this is why your installer base is really large like come on one of the reasons one yeah one of the reasons all right so more bad microsoft news before we have good microsoft stuff uh microsoft confirms the xbox one is more powerful without the connect hookup so this was posted on the forum by misanthrope this ties into a video that we have coming so shortly yeah so they figure it's about 10 10 additional gpu performance can be can be gained which is like kind of huge it's sort of a big deal um like wow i mean it's not going to be the difference between running at 30 fps and 60 fps and we have a really great video coming probably in a couple weeks that's going to be about that but it might be the difference between running at like what is it 882p yeah and a real resolution like 1080p um there was a couple yeah so this is a great post from dlf on the forum we can't just turn off the drm and i don't believe that was actually xbox one i think that was uh that was a that was xbox 360 or something okay and then we can't just disable connect we won't sell xbox one without connect does all of those things but you know what i i am proud of consumers right now for speaking with their wallets because um what they're not really buying xboxes yeah dead rising 3 is coming to pc now is it yeah so by just refusing to settle for an inferior experience we are forcing them to be friendlier to us and to win back our favor well in pc gaming's just like you guys keep on thinking we're going away but no we're just like massive now so screw you guys which is awesome they're ridiculously huge i was talking to someone who was fairly close to me that didn't know what league of legends was and it reminded me of the discussion that we had in the garage way back a long time ago about whether league of legends is mainstream yeah yeah it's not no it's not no it's not that's so weird yeah wait did i get did i get a straw poll to determine that that you're an idiot and did i get an admission that i'm right on the same lan show this is fantastic can i have a fist bump for it too no you're not gonna complete the like the the hat trick no i can't give you all three make the audience put him down have him put himself down and then have him congratulate me for it no it's just it's how amazed that i was because at that point in time i had proved you wrong because you said the last person that would know about it would be approved oh that's this was this was yours won the battle this one yeah this was your decision yeah okay and then my wife knew what it was and then i won but then this was yeah this is the first person that i've ever met that didn't know what it was right but it's like the first person i've ever met that is like outside of yeah and okay ever as in like the last few years i know you know it's funny because i uh we it's you don't think about how isolated or like how how inside of a box how segmented people are yeah and the way that social circles work like it's funny because i've had a few experiences like this lately where um rampage dev the guy that helped us with the hackintosh was like yeah to create the bootable usb um yeah just plug it into a mac and do this i'm like i don't have a mac and he's like oh we'll borrow one i'm like i don't know a single person who owns a mac and he's like what i don't i don't either or at least not someone who would lend me a mac like not someone i could just be like hey can i borrow your computer i do know someone with it but they're like very far away like yeah so so there was that and then there was going to my high school reunion a little while ago oh yeah the tweets that i got from people were hilarious because they were like yeah was everyone like and even my mom was like yeah is everyone gonna be like really impressed that you're like an internet celebrity and i'm like no no really not no one's gonna know what i do nobody even once i explained what i do nobody had any idea even people in my grade people are like you that's a job i'm just like yes yes it is yes making youtube videos is a job and then when they ask what i make them about i would say it's about technology like computers and motherboards and stuff and i could just i could i could actually hear i could hear the switch in their brains going as they turned off whenever i do it they're like oh what do you do i was like oh i make videos about like computer components and all this kind of stuff and then i'm like oh right uh consumer electronics i was like oh yeah i'm like yeah there we go oh you mean like iphones yeah well sometimes no no no no not that second beats unless we're talking about how apple bought them uh yeah let's move on to uh let's move on to that epic fail of a topic right after we do our sponsor segments here so actually like the most exciting sponsor spots is this the first time that we've talked about this this is the first time we have talked about highlander the collaborative project powered by rog notebooks there's going to be some exciting stuff jay-z is not coming on yeah jay-z will not be there because he can't handle this mountain watch jay-z show up at the top of the mountain because he probably could be like yo at the top and i'll be like wow can i have an autograph please can you sign my laptop please so we are going to be going to the summit of mount albert a 4 400 meter above sea level mountaintop and we are going to be having the world's highest elevation terrestrial land party it is a collaborative effort with tech syndicates austin evans is confirmed to be attending something that we had never revealed before um unfortunately lou from unbox therapy can't make it i was super disappointed i really wanted him to come um although but logan luke i will be there i believe kane is coming it's a possibility that we'll have some other pretty cool guys there as well but it should be about 10 of us total making our way to the top of the mountain to have a high altitude lan party because we can the whole endeavor couldn't happen without asus corsair and intel so a huge thanks to asus corsair and intel for making that possible speaking of things that are made possible by our generous sponsors our coverage of e3 is going to be brought to you by the hyperx fury ssd lineup so these are value ssds and as ssds go up in performance and down in price um the high performance ones are making less and less sense every day and the good bang for the buck ones are making more and more sense every day so a huge shout out to kingston our hyperx hyperx hyperx specifically that's very important huge shout out to hyperx for making this possible also powering our trip there is going to be corsair's all-new 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care so there you go that's my endorsement of ncix someone suggested that we get lauren to go on the climb with us she didn't want to come on the lan show did she no so i don't know i don't know tell you what we'll ask her okay we'll see we'll see we'll see i have a feeling our videos would get many more views i have a feeling that that is a stereotype okay that gamers think women are attractive have you ever watched videos about a minute this is this is actually this is unrelated to tasty pc this is related to what you just said but watching videos of women in them have you not seen the like browser streamers on twitch like are you kidding me right now you can't even make that argument i didn't say that it was invalid but i was a stereotype i didn't say no you never say no speaking of saying no all the no in the world to this apple defines a spec for lightning connector headphones with 48 kilohertz output apple piss off we do not need we do not need headphones with proprietary connectors that is not a thing we need please don't make it if you stop making eye devices with analog outputs i will well i don't buy any anyway but i will definitely continue not buying them because that's absolutely horrible and to get caught up in some kind of a in some kind of a like race to who can have the highest sample rate on their files is a journey to nowhere because it doesn't actually matter past a certain point also there is there's no there's no reason why you can't have an excellent dac and an analog connection to the speakers that sit inside your ears because effectively that's all that you're doing anyway a digital headphone is just one that has the dac on the other side of the cable instead of having the dac here and then over there the amp and dac actually both of them i suppose it doesn't matter it's still a a speaker is an inherently analog thing there is no benefit to this other than that we are going to be stuck with headphones that only work with iphones and iphones that i mean if they were to actually take the three and a half inch connector off then we'd be stuck with iphones that only work with stupid lightning headphones most of which will be fashion trash i'm sure well beats they'll be beats well though i'm sure someone else probably will love them we'll participate in the maid foreign i think they're making sure that there will be a range of products on launch for this picture this future and i'm about to make your brain melt okay this already did you look at the kinds of like real companies like serious companies that really care like sennheiser that participate in the made for iphone program like the momentum headphones for example why is sennheiser targeting iphone users with these because iphone users will pay more yeah okay sennheiser happened to make legitimately good headphones that are made for iphone but it means that the inline controls don't work on android because they're made for iphone now imagine this imagine sennheiser is put in a position where they have to decide are they making their next pair of great sounding but still fashionable headphones with a lightning connector or a three and a half millimeters could this become a breakaway i don't know maybe because that would make sense but that's totally inelegant and that's not that's not no it's true the apple way like that's not going but it could be breakaway and it doesn't have to be breakaway like okay well apple's already said there will be adapters so yes you can adapt your lightning to make a 3.5 but that's stupid oh it is yeah like adapters are horrible it could be breakaway like it is on that though ah but again these i mean these are 300 iems yeah not everything has that feature that's an uncommon feature no i know but i'm just saying like for the sennheiser headphones that you're talking but these are solutions we shouldn't have to resort i completely agree okay well i'm just saying it it might it might not be as bad i think instead of us playing devil's advocate because i'm obviously very upset right now we should have a moment of silence instead okay okay okay because i what i was really hoping for with this beats acquisition was beats headphones that looked good and sounded good and were built better yeah that's what i wanted out of this this is my worst nightmare yeah this is the worst thing that could have possibly come out of that acquisition well maybe not the worst maybe not the worst thing but it's it's very very very bad it's very terrible and stupid yeah and i need that to not happen yeah all right ah the specification could ah ah anyway none of that's confirmed like apple doing away with three and a half millimeter connectors entirely like these are all conclusions that were made up i mean there are ways that the tech could be cool for example if you had headphones some something that is easier to have a large battery in and every time you plugged your headphones into your iphone it could charge them or something like that like there is room for this to be kind of cool as long as it doesn't get forced on us yeah so i will leave that positive possibility as the last thing that we say on the subject all right no microsoft start menu on windows 8 until 2015. this was posted by nsf ns nfs underground and the original article is from maybe he's trying to recreate the sound of when your your engine is kind of tripping out when you're just revving when you're at the start of the line with it so it's knee for speed underground dude okay so it's not coming in update two to windows eight point to windows eight it will be coming instead possibly with the next update to windows 8 or windows 9 depending on how microsoft decides to roll things out so this is their new mini modern ui start menu personally i don't really care because it'll likely be 2015 by the time i roll a new operating system onto my system anyway um but great so i guess there's that our next topic is the asus sabranco sabranco anyway whatever it's uh it's a tough series motherboard with a white pcb now this is an opportunity for me oh they already got it oh that's a shame because i was looking forward to just going on an ego trip here this was originally posted by t leet so i wanted to uh because asus basically said look if you want to see more white pcb motherboards to match your sexy white pcb hardware we need 500 retweets of this tweet and they were stuck at like 250 and i was like oh on the lan show we should just like we should just double it we should just like crush it so that uh they'll be like whoa where did that come from and we'll be like flexing our internet muscles stop making golden motherboards cause they're dumb just like yeah we don't even care about white motherboards no not at all we just don't want gold motherboards yeah so screw you in your stupid retweets so guys there are 4 300 of you watching the show right now i am counting on you i want to double the number of retweets they have on their right that retweet thing where you retweet and say something at the same time and just say any color other than gold yeah if you if you can so guys you go find that post come on come on come on brothers you gotta help me out here i'm posting this i'm posting this guys you gotta you gotta get on this help me out we gotta make this thing happen all right someone says it's already at 609 i know but i still i still want to i still want to utilize our internet mightiness to and we're trying to yeah we're trying to move we're trying to prove a point yeah we're trying to prove a point the point is white is not necessarily supreme but it's a damn sight better than gold yeah i'd just like not gold yeah just i can i can do something with it if it's not gold yes yeah see i got people saying silver's okay yes silver is totally cool silver's totally cool you know black's coo blue's coo red's coo yellow i'm okay with as long as it's like uv the empower did it pretty well yes and the mpower did it really well yellow yellow's coo you just gotta do right yep so we need you guys to to just help us crush it apparently it's over a hundred it's over a thousand already i love you guys it's awesome yes it totally is you guys are awesome and you made my epeen grow at least three inches today so i appreciate that we have some good microsoft news actually i have a prop for this one do you wanna do you wanna cover this in the meantime sure there's not much to say um microsoft announced that they were going to be whoa some cables got unplugged uh microsoft announced we're failing they announced that you should be able to use the xbox one controller on your pc back in november and it's finally coming or is here already yeah now they're now available for download so yeah and you can connect it to your computer simply with a micro usb cable so this is posted on the forum by demokiller37 although i do have to beat them up a little bit anyway the links are in the are in the thread there to where you can get the drivers for both x86 and x64 versions of windows but get this microsoft is releasing the drivers today at its download site but the company is also planning to distribute them through windows update in the near future microsoft what are you doing what do you mean why aren't they in windows update already oh yeah okay well i thought you were against it being a windows update i was like why not why is any piece of microsoft hardware not in windows update yeah no i completely agree i thought i thought i thought you were against it and that's why i was like why is anything not in windows update yeah if it's wickle certified why is it not in windows update why isn't that part of the procedure why do i have to dink around so happy drivers still i totally thought you're on the other side of this and you're not at all and that's fantastic like timmy if you're watching maybe you can give me an explanation that makes sense but i doubt it why are drivers not in windows update why do i have to think about this why is it easier to plug and play a linux installation and have it automatically work with network drivers than it is a windows one that should never be a thing ever never be a fail every laptop that i've ever tried to install linux on perfect network that's all i need is network drivers because then i can move from there that's fine and then every single time that i've tried to install not every single time but a lot of times i try to install windows on a laptop especially if it's not the windows that it came with horrible almost never get network drivers have to go hunt them down it's annoying and a lot of the time it's not even a matter of like oh derp it's not on windows update a lot of the time it's like oh okay i better go into device manager and like find the vendor id and like pci id string and go google that and find some post on like driver helper full of viruses yeah yeah why do i have to resort to that you know what while i'm bitching about this if anyone from adapttech is watching you guys turn your download servers on after business hours from now on that's super stupid that's like the stupidest thing i've ever seen they turn their download servers for their drivers off outside of like business hours legit legitimately guys go check like i've been diagnosing like a raid card in the middle of the night because that's the only time when you can take down your server yeah yeah and like their download server is just off honestly though a lot of server maintenance happens overnight so like it should they should be oh i'm so mad like so mad ridiculous people are like why is he mad today because things make me a lot of things to be mad about today speaking of things to be mad about this is actually both cool and terrifying yeah um so gun company figures out how to shoot around corners using google glass so basically they've got a super advanced scope on this gun that allows you to use google glass as a site it also compensates for human error compensates for conditions it does all kinds of neat so keen stuff there's a short video it's about a minute long tracking point labs you know part of me is kind of like do we really really need more efficient ways to like put bullets in each other one thing that scares me is like all the stuff that's going on with nsa and stuff right now this is gonna very possibly create a big divide in between um civilian uprising potential and government oh absolutely i mean it's already there you can always night vision goggles are already you know that's actually something that i can't quite figure out why they weren't using thermal imaging to find that moncton uh police killer yeah were they not it took them i didn't follow took them over a full day to find him and he was just kind of hiding in the woods like i don't know maybe maybe it's possible that they're just not that sensitive yet but i just wouldn't do they have military deployed on that they did have military deployed uh i mean they eventually did find him in the woods unarmed they've apprehended him now okay do you know much about i have not been following you yeah i know i know he killed like i know that kind of stuff but he killed three officers and uh and wounded two others one i knew he was very seriously wounded yeah um i just didn't know about them i'm not gonna link to any news stories i'm not going to name him because these people don't deserve any attention uh dragon v2 speaking of people who do deserve attention super cool and freaking elon musk is just the coolest person on the planet so guys oh you should check this out there's not there's not really too much for for us to say about it there's there's the main job i put the main points of the video in here is the the new capsule can hold seven astronauts uh it has propulsion-based landings so it can land on a landing pad it can land pretty much anywhere but someone says you can't thermal through trees so there you go that's interesting um you can land pretty much anywhere but more specifically on a landing pad you don't have to land in the ocean anymore and the heat shielding and stuff on the bottom is much more resistant and can be easily reused so if it can land on a landing pad and just have all the propellant refills very quickly sweet ice fox says elon greater than gabe n uh let's just let's just calm down okay everyone just needs to relax go ahead about elon being greater than gabe everyone just needs to relax they're in they're in completely it's like can you be told can we all just relax and stop being tense thank you we're looking we're looking at different castles here different castles i like that they're not they're both the king of their own castles all right sorry go ahead go ahead the rest of the points and boats um that was actually pretty much it is it can carry seven astronauts um it's very reusable definitely reusable and it can land pretty much anywhere very easily it uses propulsion-based landing like i said so instead of having this crazy parachute like they did before where they just parachute out and then drift down into the water it it slows itself down as it's falling through i think it's i think it's four jets and then evens itself out and then lands with like these kind of spring loaded not really spring-loaded but these feet that can compress not spring-loaded at all um but feet that can compressor it just kind of it's actually very very cool all right we got a straw pole and the inside of this space shuttle is amazing have you seen it uh no okay you can talk about it though it's it's kind of hard to describe once you're done spamming there i can try to jump you forward in the video but essentially you you walk in it looks like super super clean and super futuristic unlike a lot of space shuttles that you see that look like mega ghetto and kind of disgusting and then he sits down in this baller looking chair and swings down this super badass monitor setup it's so cool um yeah he's walking in so he's going to get it he's going to get involved let's go guys so once he gets in there sweet so very nice seats i can't like he doesn't talk about them at all but like they actually look comfortable instead of the terrible things they're doing before and then yeah okay go a little bit back because you got to see him swing down the monitor set up you can see it's up right now he'll pull it down so badass schwoop and then if you can actually see the control panels like it actually looks like futuristic and badass i know that doesn't really matter but like it looks really cool right there you can see all their monitoring panels and like all the stuff in the middle he's got uh spaceship control is that like joysticky thing kind of in the middle and then most of those manual buttons are all emergency things so you don't have to use the other displays and stuff they're all emergency stuff and yeah i don't know i thought this was super cool yeah i was watching and then i ran out of time i actually didn't make it to the end i didn't know he went inside yeah that is awesome it's pretty freaking cool how's that straw poll doing all right let's check out that straw poll castles okay castles castles so we've got 42 of the votes going to gaben 41 of the votes going to castles and 17 going to elon musk although i don't think there's really any denying that elon's uh or mr musk's contributions to humanity as a whole are probably more more impactful than gabe ends but but then how is that that's very difficult to quantify because but because gaben could inspire more people if it's not in the same way it's it's not necessarily lower and gaben did more than just gaming yeah digital digital content distribution and he was a pioneer yeah and he's pushed forward for those like racing that racing thing i don't know anyway yeah it's not really uh i i vote for castles hope for castles you go vote for castles then one vote doesn't matter loser it does actually every vote counts yeah yeah i'm gonna go find it and vote just because you said that so that's fine it took me a second i don't know where it is i give up you can find things to vote for on your own time yeah pretty much all right or thing image you use um yeah i fired up the star citizen uh what's up oh yeah right we actually have something really cool for you guys so i need you to use hashtag linusmassdrop all one word hashtag linusmassdrop and send in your requests for what you would like to see a mass drop deal on we are working with mass drop to basically find one thing that our community really wants to see and bring it to you guys that's it it's simple so everyone take just a minute of your time think of something that you think is really cool hopefully you know electronics or computer stuff or something um and then just use hashtag linusmassdrop and uh tweet that out and we will have someone preferably a lackey and not me go through them all and compile a list of the most popular ones and then we're gonna pick one from there that we think is really cool and we think would be a great mass drop item and we are going to be bringing that to you guys through the mass drop team so be excited about that because it's going to be really really sweet awesome now what were you saying about star citizen i was saying i tried it and the mouse controls are balls so i need to get a joystick i'm actually going to order a usb to game controller adapter so i can use my old top gun joystick but i also have a scitec aviator that i can use in the meantime it just doesn't have that same no it doesn't quality feel to it though i don't really like it so there you go oh well solar freaking roadways we're not doing a mass drop for solar roadways especially because they don't work sorry to spoil that one very cool concept though yeah give it give it a little while longer a lot a while longer and we'll find a way to let everybody like the sun a little better someone says butt plugs i don't think we should ask for butt plugs you can get windows for 50 cents on oh pc it's ludicrous rog jay-z we're never going to be free of that are we no no we're just stuck with it forever okay speaking of things we're stuck with forever we'll be back next week thank you guys very much for tuning in to the wan show we will see you next week i guess normally i say thank you and then i say we'll see you next week but without this getting any more awkward than it already is boom oh that's awkward i didn't leave this in all the right spots so i needed something to do with them e3 also going to be awesome or terrible we're not sure yeah we've never done it before nope\n"