They’ll NEVER Forgive Us - Gaming PC Build Challenge

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Today, we're going to be going head-to-head against AI to decide who is the real champion of PC building: Jay, myself, or I think - actually, that's not it. We used Copilot, and that was what gave us the best PC.

This video is sponsored by our good friends over at Micro Center, who are, of course, celebrating their brand new store launch here in Miami, Florida. My producer, Alex, prepped a full list of parts that Micro Center are actually building for us.

We're going to be building a, quote, [insert specific PC build details here].

WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: en- Today, we're going to begoing head to head against AIto decide who is the realchamp of PC building,Jay, myself, or I thinkwe actually used Copilot,that was actually whatgave us the best PC.And, of course, this video is sponsoredby our good friends over at Micro Centerwho are, of course, celebratingtheir brand new store launchhere in Miami, Florida.My producer, Alex, preppeda full list of partsthat Micro Center areactually building for us.We're going to be building a, quote,"midrange" gaming PC from thebrand new Miami Micro Center.I think we should aim for $1,500.I mean, I would say that'slike bordering on high-end.- That's like entry-level,high-end, high-end.Okay, it's high-mid-end.- Yeah.- But it's entry-level high-end.- We've agreed that we'renot gonna go super cheap.We're not gonna go-- Oh no.- You know, throw giant GPU-- You have to use a case, Austin.No cardboard boxes.- Let's go inside the store,let's scout it out,and then we'll see exactlywhat we're going up against.- I think it's important to note,like, we don't know what AI chose yet.- I'm a little scaredof what we're gonna be going up against.I'm not gonna lie.So this is the brandnew Miami Micro Center,and I gotta say it's a different layoutthan some of the other Micro Centers.Do you wanna do-- 305.- 305, what?- That's the area code.You know, Pitbull.- The main thing I think to consider hereis that while we're gonna go for 3DMark,I guess, divided by the price.- That's weird, because youcould theoretically get a scorethat's, you know, 5,000 points below,but it could be like 3 cents more,or 3 cents better performanceper dollar, right?So that's why I just aim for 1,500.- I'm almost of the opinionthat if you go over,you're just disqualified.I feel like we should not even,like, let that be an option.- Okay.- So the prompt we gave is,"Build a midrange gaming PCusing parts from Micro Center."Look at the size of this.- Not bad for a store that just opened.There are 40 AMD CPU SKUsversus 13 Intel SKUs.- Oh.- They still have 12th gen though,so that is of value there.- So we're taking advantageof the same-day build service.So Micro Center will, of course,be able to not only provide you partsif you wanna go build it yourself.But if you're not willing,or you're a little bit afraid,or you just don't have the time,they can build it for you in the store.You can just take homea fully-built system.We're going to have, what,10 minutes to pick parts?- I think we might needmore than 10 minutes.- Five minutes?- I said more, not less, sir.- I could probably do three.So you're right, there's a lot of options.So we've got everything from a 12600KF.- Are you gonna actuallyrisk an Intel CPU?- Well, as long as it works for one runof 3DMark Time Spy Extreme,that's fine with me.- And, for the record,we're giving them away,so you don't wanna give away a time bomb.- The good thing is Micro Centerhave plenty of options to choose from,and one of the things thatAI is not smart enough to do,but we are, is take advantageof the open-box deals.- Have you seen the simulator wall here?- There's a simulator wall?- It goes from here allthe way to that end capwhere he's walking right now.That's all simulator stuff.- Oh my god!There's a whole aisle of hard drives?- They have over 150different hard drives.That's why when you were like,"I can do it in 10 minutes,"I'm like, "No you can't."- Yeah, I could do it, but Iwon't do a good job with it.I think I've seen what I've needed to see.Let's do this thing.So we've been talking aboutthis idea for a little bit,but I think this is the firsttime I've really realizedthat there's a possibilitythat we could lose against the AI.'Cause obviously I wanna beat you,but I definitely don't wanna lose to AI.- I'll tell you what,AI for me is the true competition here.'Cause I look at it this way,let's say we end up with the same parts,that's still a valid result.So if they end up beingvery similar builds,then I think it's pretty valid to say,"Hey, that's one of thebest combinations of partsyou can do for the price point."And if you're not sure,you can use the MicroCenter PC Build Configuratoron the website.For those that are wondering,it will even know thedifference between like,"Hey, your GPU is too long for this case."'Cause, in the configurator,it knows how much GPU clearance,CPU height clearance."Buy a flight to Miami now.- The scoring will be simple.We're taking all three systemsand running 3DMark Time Spy Extremeto see which one is thebest for the budget,while also keeping in mindthat these need to be reasonable systems.No cardboard box, at least this time.So I have a little bit of a plan.Micro Center have just announcedthey're brand new Ryzen 5 7600X3D CPU.Now this is an exclusive CPUonly sold at Micro Center.And not that I'm cheating,I would never cheat,but they maybe pulled one aside for meand I don't think there'sany more in the store.I think that that's gonna be a lot,hopefully, of CPU performance.Now we're shooting thisvideo on August 31st,so it has just come out.I've not had the chanceto actually try it yet.I'm hopeful that if I have a powerfuland, importantly, affordable CPU,that is gonna do a lotof heavy lifting for me.So yeah, that's my plan.Shh, don't tell Jay.Hello, what's going on over here.I was perusing the lovelysupply over here of stuff.Okay, all right, that's fine.So I think my plan,especially, because I don'twant Jay to know what I'm doing,is I'm going to make a mentallist of all of my components.So I'm gonna use the handyMicro Center website to figure out,oh, look at these grandopening exclusive deals!So one of the things,if you've never shopped at Micro Center,their bundles are almostalways the best deal,because you'll get yourselfa CPU, a motherboard,and RAM for typicallya pretty big discountover buying them by themselves.I think I should still do the 3D,but that's actuallylike a pretty good deal.Wait, it's not on the site yet, of course!So slightly nervous right nowthat I'm gonna haveeverything that I need.To win this, I really needthe absolute best performancewhile staying underneath my budget.Which, in this case, is really gonna meangetting the absolute bestGPU I can fit in my budget,and then maybe notcutting a lot of corners,but cutting some corners.But it depends on if I'vegot my secret CPU here.They're checking in the back right nowto see if they've got the 7600X3D for me.(Austin laughing evilly)It's in the spirit of the rules, right?By the time you watch this video,you will be able to do this.And I'll tell you that Jay definitelywas offered the same CPU.Let's go see what Jay's up to.I'm feeling a little bit confident now,so I'ma go and harass him alittle bit. (laughs evilly)♪ Do-be-dee-doop-be-doop-be-do ♪Oh!Oh, oh, no.What's wrong?How's the system going?Is it good? Are you done yet?- Pretty close.- So right now I have $450 spent.So-- Is that it?- I spent a lot of money onmy power supply actually, Jay,and my 20-terabyte hard drive.Now that I really have towhisper because Jay's listening.I'm going to another part of the store.I'm not playing anymore.Right now I have CPU,motherboard, and RAM for $450,which means I have over $1,000 for my GPU,for my case, power supply, and cooling.So I'm assemblingeverything for the build.I'm gonna just put this face downjust so Jay maybe can't see it. (laughs)If I can fit a 4080 inthe system, I think I win.Can I squeeze the budget though?$700 for this.That's a good deal, I thinkI'm gonna get this, shh.What's like the smallest CPUcooler I can get away with?I'ma take anything that's vaguely cheap'cause a 7600X3D is not that bad.- It's not that crazy.- Okay.I can also look it up on the website.Oh, it's $45? Hell, yeah, mm!So I'm at $1,200 spent.I have $300 left.I actually can maybepush more than the 7900.Oh yeah, SSD is not gonnabe a problem at all.$80 for one terabyte?That's not bad.So I've got myself a TN470,which is a one-terabyte SSD.So I'm not gonna ultra cheap it out.Oh, hello.♪ Open box ♪♪ Open box ♪♪ What's up ♪So this is a G.Skill,which is normally $90.But it's only $72, 'cause it's open box.So that was $80.(suspenseful music)Dollars of money-- Oh, you put back our DVD burner.- Are you here to winor are you here to talk?- I already won.- So I actually have $150 for a case,which is a lot of moneyfor one of these builds.So with my case chosen,theoretically, I am $3 under budget.With a grand total of $1,497 spent,I'm ready to go head tohead with Jay and AI.How confident do you feel right now?- Very, okay, let's startwith the simple stuff,like drive.- Cool.So I chose the InlandTN470, one-terabyte SSD.It's PCI Gen 4.One-terabyte SSD cost me $80.- I got a one terabyte Gen4 Crucial P3 Plus for $69.- Where was that?- It's a additional bundle dealif you buy a drive with a bundle deal.- Oh, you did a bundle.- I may or may not have.- How interesting.I feel good about this one.So I am rocking a open-box G.Skill.So this is a MB750G, and,importantly, I saved what?It was originally $90and I paid 72 for it.- I actually went with theSuper Flower 850-watt Goldfully-modular power supply.The reason why I did this,is, one, it's not thecheapest, it's 99 bucks.But if you think about the factthat I already have acheaper drive than you,like, it starts to add up, right?And because of the fact that I'm thinkingabout future proof as well,I didn't wanna be stuckwith something like,not to point out your 750-- 750 is more than an enough, Jay.I would actually say it's above average.- I also read the reviewsof that G.Skill power supply.- You're reading reviews?So for CPU cooler, I went withthe be quiet! Pure Rock 2.- I didn't see this on the shelfwhen I was here yesterday or today.- I don't know,I walked around the cornerand it was sitting right there.- My cooler though is a little overkill.(Austin laughing)I went with the Razer, it's$109, it's actually not-- Oh, that's actually not bad.Fractal North.- Montech 903 Max.Is this you trying to undoall the cardboard shenanigansyou've ever done?- No, no, no, no.Can I actually tell you?- It still has wood.- Oh, well what's your final total?- 1479.- I think I've got this.Don't tell Jay, oh.I've got myself 32 gigsof G.Skill Flare X5.Oh wait, is that exactly the same?Oh, you've got Ripjaws.- Does that mean that youwent with an AMD build?- What? Whatever couldgive that away, what?GPU?- Okay.I think this one's pretty obvious.- I think we've already seen each other's.There was no way we were gonna let that-- Not get this $700 7900 XT pass us by.- Just a little inside baseball.I was trying to see if I couldsqueeze a little bit more budget,but like there's no way to do some things.- I tried really hardto see if I could fita 4080 Super in there.- Same.- But there's no way.- So that leaves us with onlyone component left, right?- So the CPU and motherboard.- Oh, two components.- We'll just show 'em together.Z790 motherboard bundle.- Interesting. Interesting.- With the 12900K.- Woo!So I, as you so astutely noticed,I'm going with an AMD build.So this is the Asus-- Very tempting.- B650.- Tempting.- With a very special CPU.(drums rolling)Would you take a look at that?- Oh, oh, we're good, nope, we're good.(Austin laughing)We're good.- I, because I'm such a huge fanof our lovely sponsors, Micro Center,and they're exclusive new CPU,this is the first timeI'm using this build.- Is that CPU actually out yet?- No, it's not, it is unreleased.- There's the rule bending Itold you Austin was gonna do.- No, no, no, here's the thing.You got the same email that I got.Like, "Hey, do you wannacheck out this brand new CPU?"- I did, but this isa consumer perspectivewhere the consumer cancome build this system.- And by the time this video goes live,there will be plentifulstock of this I'm sure.- I got this, 'cause I knowhow the 7800X3D performsin that same test,and I know how that's gonna performcompared to it with two less cores.I said, at the start of this,that this was Jay versus AI.This is Jay versus Austinnow for the sport of it.(Austin laughs)This CPU I chose specificallybecause I knew that thisis a combined score test.- Yeah.- If this was only gaming,then an X3D CPU like thatwould make a lot of sense.The challenge is about how balancedAI could build the system.- Yes, exactly!- So let's see how it did.- You're just tryingto make me feel betterbecause I think we havealmost the exact same system,except you have a faster CPU.The real test isn'tbetween Jay and I though.It's about how our systemsstack up against what AI built.And, oh boy, this is a system all right.So white power supply is definitely,immediately, the first thing I noticeon the all-black system.- Yeah, with the white cables.I'm noticing that RTX card,it's a 4060 Ti, 'causeit's not, as you can see,it's not PCI 5.- What the?So AI built a system with a 4060 Ti?- At $1,500.- What the?- Well, here's the thing.So we have a Corsair power supply,an RM power supply, which is expensive.A Corsair 240 AIO H100.- Oh!- It's obviously an Intel board.So it's an Intel CPU.- Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait.How did AI pick these parts?- I think itprioritized highest rating.- The prompt was, "Thebest midrange system."It probably used best aslike midrange is my budget,the highest rating.- That's a no brainer,like, we've destroyedthis in the benchmark.Okay, CPU, I'm curious about that.- Yeah, what is it using?- The 12600K.- What? Dude, that board is almost as...The board is basically asmuch as the CPU. (laughs)Okay.- Oh, and the 990 EVO?- 990 EVO.(Austin and Jay laughing)- Can we put that in my build?- No.- The H100 RGB Elite?I saw this on the site,this is like 130 bucks.- The case is a Lancool.- It's a Lancool II, yeah.- That's a fine choice.- It's a good case.- If you watch a lot ofJayzTwoCents content,you would know that thenumber one best selleris usually not the best move.- It didn't even consider using a bundle.Like, it didn't understand bundles,it just did individual price points.- Of course, it didn't.AI actually chose a 3060 Tiand that wasn't available,so they-- Replaced with 3070.That wasn't available.So they went with a 4060 Ti.- It does have a pretty good understandingof compatibility.But the problem here isthat what you're gettingis something which just feels likea really just amateurishkind of list of components.Now, thankfully, the wonderfulpeople at Micro Centerare happy to help guideyou a little bit betterif you come into the store,and probably will not recommendyou to build a system like this.- Enough talking aboutthe AI, we know we've won,let's see who won here,which I'm feeling prettydamn confident right now.More confident than I've ever beenin any competition I've been in,and that includes "Scrapyard Wars."- Let's build our PCs, shall we?(Austin and Jay laughing)So while I'm putting this together,I have some initial thoughts.I'm very curious to see how the 7600X3Dis actually going to perform,because it feels likeit's one of those thingsthat in real gamingshould be pretty powerful,But what I'm a little bit concernedabout is that Jay isprobably gonna have an edgein the benchmark,and that's all that matters hereis just how it compares in the benchmark.A little concerned maybe,but, you know, a little stressmakes you build the PC faster.How are you coming?- All that's left is powersupply, and then do the wiring.- Ooh, that actually looks pretty good.So my system is coming together.I'll say it's a little bit,I'll say basic in here.But I do think the factthat I've got the North,it's really gonna helpto add for the aesthetic.This has been a challenge fora couple of different reasons.First of all, obviously,I've gotta go up against Jaywho doesn't know anything about PCs,but I'm trying to go easy on'em, you know and kind of-- I use AI for all my videos.I don't know what I'm doing.- But the other thing is I'm here solo,so I'm not gonna lie,it's been kind of funnyto like go back and forthbetween shooting,and then realizing like Iforgot to install somethingin the system 'cause I waslike messing with the camera.- Says Mr. myproducer set up for me.- I know, but I'm here by myself!Behold, my friends. (grunts)- Okay, there you go.- The system isvertical, thanks, Jay.How many damn fans do you have?Wait, one, two-- Seven.- Really? Do you need seven fans?- Yes, 'cause I'm gonna overclock it.- I think my muchcleaner-looking aestheticwith the North and the air cooling-- I do kind of like howthe orange on the TUF boardsort of ties into the waythe front of the wood looks.- Okay, so the build is essentially done.The entire board seems likeit matches pretty well.And, thankfully, I actuallyhave an LED switch hereso I can turn it on and offif I don't want the RGB.Because besides the LEDson the graphics card,I don't actually think Ihave any RGB at all in here,so this is gonna be verystealthy, very sophisticated.I mean, you've got somuch more back there.- It reminds me of the old Corsair AIOswhere there's like threewires coming off every fan.- Yep, meanwhile, whilemine's not exactly clean,there's just so much less goingon in the back of my system.I'm not worried in the slightest.Why would I be?- Don't worry,I'm a very sore winner.- You're a sore winnerand a sore loser? (laughs)Do we have signal?This would be a bad time to find outthat I need a BIOS updatefor my unreleased CPU.It's alive!All righty, and there wego, everything looks good.So with our PCs ready, let'ssee which one comes out on top.Three completed systems.- They all POSTed.- They all POSTed surprisingly smooth.You didn't have issues like last timewhen it came to like the BIOS.- Yeah, that was a BIOS update problem.- My system came up instantly.- Okay, so we have to make a correctionwhen it comes to the pricing,'cause we did get aprintout of the prices.So it came in at $1,377.92.I think if they had saved some moneystill in some of this stuff,they could've definitely steppedup to the same GPU we are.So what we're gonna do rightnow is we're just gonna takethe Time Spy Extreme combinedscore, the total score,and divide it by priceand see who got the most score per dollar.Okay, so let's run the AI test first.- Yeah, that'll be our benchmark.The benchmark of the benchmark.So we're going to berunning the exact sameTime Spy Extreme teston all three systems.- Ooh, 30s on the FPS at the start.I'm gonna guess that thisis gonna be sub 10,000.It's gonna have to bein like a 7,000 range.- And I wanna give ita little bit of credit.I mean, the fact that it wassmart enough to make surethat all the components were correct,it did pick everythingthat was at Micro Center.- Everything iscompatible, everything fit.- And like none of thecomponents in this AI systemare, on their own, terrible.But when you put 'em together,it's just like a lot of strange choices.- Yeah, almost 60 milliseconds per frame.So it's like 10 FPS, somewherearound there, under 10.- It's slow.- It's not good.- 6,079!- Okay, graphics was a 6116,and then CPU is a 5881.- Next up, let's try my system.At least, I'll beat the AI.- I can't remember the specs of the 12600,but I wanna say, as long asyou start higher than 30s,which you're going to'cause of the GPU test.- Yeah, of course.- You're gonna be at like 75 probably.80.- 80, yes!- That's what I was saying,like, it has to be pretty good.So already Austin has beat the AI.Can Austin beat the machine?Yes, he did, by just showing up.So we're looking for youto have anywhere fasterthan 59 milliseconds per frame.I feel some warmth comingoff this thing though.Holy cow, feel in there.Come on, uh-oh!- Uh-oh!- Oh no!- Oh no.- 68-70!- So what we're talking abouthere is a CPU bench here.Because, in a game, I haveno doubt this is going to bea very potent CPU.- Oh, it'd be great.- But we don't care about how it games,we care about how it benchmarks, right?And this is stressing the CPU to its max.I think what I'm losing out hereis just the fact that Idon't have as many cores.- So you are 30% slowerat rendering the framethan the 12600.- Hey, 10,000!- Yeah.You're 66% higher than the AI system.- But, importantly,my CPU score is a little bit lower.- It's a 4404 versus a 5881.- Yeah.- I'm gonna pull in like 13,000.- No, it'snot gonna be that high.- Yes, it is.- Really?- Yes, it is.- Uh-oh, you errored.Uh-oh, a pensive JayzTwoCents.- That's weird.- As he realizesthat there are problems afoot.- I wonder what the error is.- But your GPU isexactly the same as my GPU,which just ran. (laughs)- I'm gonna do a restart,'cause I don't think I restartedafter all the drivers updated.- Technically, I am in the lead now.No.- You watch reality TVwhen like things go wrongand you're just like-- We have no secret producerswho are like unpluggingthings in the background.This is real, legit YouTubing.(Jay chuckles)- Little did I know he was gonna give me-- Excuse me, excuse me, I-- Some Temu versionof OS of Windows here.- How dare you?I'm gonna take my driveback right now. (laughs)- 85, I'm five higher than you already.Look, I take everyvictory I can get, okay?I'm gonna call right now my CPU test.That one was 59, you were like what, 80?32 milliseconds.I'm honestly anticipating 13,000 plus.32. (laughs)- Okay, all right.All right, congratulations.- I'm using my AI, it's JayI.- JayI?- Jartificial intelligence.(Austin laughing)13,000 plus, 13,282.- 12,720!- Ah, okay, whatever.- Okay, well still.- Maybe the 13,000was with the 13th or 14th gen,but whatever, it still won.- And so it is clear thattoday, and today only,JayzTwoCents is the PC master.Congratulations.- I'll take it.- I am slightly sad,although I will say that your bundle dealwas absolutely, like, that was-- I'm kind of surprisedyou didn't go with it,but you had already madeyour mind up on what CPU.- I literally had alreadyhad this planned with Micro Center.Like, "Oh, you got that CPU,put one aside for me at the store."So if you would like to checkout any of the componentsthat we used for these builds,they will, of course, be alllinked in the description.Thank you, again, to MicroCenter for sponsoring this video.Check out the brand new Miami store.It is now open, and I can saythat it's a very nice layout.- And one thing they'realso chock-full of, deals.- Deals, deals, deals,including lots of dealsthat I don't know that I'llhave to VO and put in right now.It is incredibly coolto see a brand new Micro Center in Miami,and there are a ton ofdeals to go along with that.One of the big ones is ifyou are a new customer,you can get yourself $25off of all processorsspecifically in-store.On top of that, thereare also tons of dealsthat are available at allof your friendly local Micro Centers.So definitely make sure you go check outthe links in the description.And yet, again, thank youvery much to Micro Centerfor sponsoring this video.All right, I think we shouldgo give these PCs away.- Let's do it!- Goodbye, my friends.And next time, I'll seeyou at Micro Center.- Loser.(Austin snickers)(gentle mellow music)