The Used Car Market: A Huge Part of the Automotive Universe

Used cars are a huge part of the automotive universe, and it's interesting to note that they play a significant role in the market. According to data from 2015, 43 million used cars were sold that year, which is three times the number of new cars sold. Similarly, in 2016, 44 million used cars were sold, further emphasizing their importance in the market.

One of the reasons people buy used cars is because they cannot afford a new car. The average price of a new car today is around $33,000 to $35,000, which is a significant amount for many people. This is where the used car market comes into play, offering a more affordable option for those who want a reliable vehicle.

The used car market has never been greater, with various ways for people to purchase used cars. For instance, online platforms like Craigslist, eBay, and Motors can be used to find a wide range of vehicles. Additionally, leasing has become a popular option in recent years, resulting in a large number of used cars being available on the market.

One notable aspect of the used car market is the certified pre-owned (CPO) vehicles that are available. These vehicles have been thoroughly inspected and certified by the manufacturer or dealership, ensuring they meet certain standards. CPO vehicles often come with a manufacturer's warranty, which can provide peace of mind for buyers.

Certified pre-owned vehicles typically undergo rigorous inspections to ensure they meet specific conditions. This includes checking the vehicle's mileage, condition, and overall health. The inspection process can take several hours or even days, depending on the complexity of the vehicle. Once certified, the vehicle is given a warranty that can last anywhere from 36 months to 4 years.

Some dealerships offer extended warranties for their used cars, which can provide additional protection for buyers. However, it's essential to note that not all warranties are created equal, and some may be more comprehensive than others. It's crucial for buyers to carefully review the warranty terms and conditions before making a purchase.

The certified pre-owned market is particularly interesting because it offers a unique way for people to buy used cars with confidence. By purchasing a CPO vehicle, buyers can enjoy the benefits of a new car without the hefty price tag. The certification process ensures that the vehicle has been thoroughly inspected and meets certain standards, providing peace of mind for buyers.

In contrast, traditional used cars may have unknown histories, which can be a concern for potential buyers. This is where the importance of the CPO market comes in, offering a way to buy used cars with confidence. By purchasing a certified pre-owned vehicle, buyers can enjoy the benefits of a new car without the risk associated with buying an older vehicle.

The rise of leasing has also had a significant impact on the used car market. With more people opting for leases, there is a greater number of used cars available on the market. This shift in consumer behavior has led to a wider range of vehicles being offered for sale, making it easier for buyers to find a reliable used car.

Leasing itself has become increasingly popular over the past few years, and this trend shows no signs of slowing down. With leasing options available for up to 36 months, it's easier than ever for people to get into a new car without having to commit to purchasing it outright. However, there is still a lot to be learned about leases, and it's essential for buyers to carefully consider their options before making a decision.

In the end, the used car market offers a wide range of options for buyers who want to purchase a reliable vehicle without breaking the bank. Whether you opt for a certified pre-owned vehicle or a traditional used car, there are many ways to find a great deal on a used car. By understanding the different options available and doing your research, you can make an informed decision that meets your needs and budget.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enWe talk about why used cars aresuch a huge part of the market,and we give you our picksin three different pricecategories, nexton Talking Cars.Hi, everybody, and welcome toanother episode of Talking Carswith Consumer Reports.I'm Jon Lincov.I'm Jake Fisher.And I'm Jennifer Stockburger.And you can see that wehave a whole new set up,that we've been listeningto the comments,because we have newmic stands, we'relooking at different filters.We heard that everyone wantsto see our pretty faces.So here we are, we're tryingsome new things every weekand shaking it up alittle bit, and there'sgoing to be changes overthe next couple of weeks.But, please, we'regoing to roll with it.Let us know in the comments, letus know what you think of it.And as part of thechange-up, we're notgoing to be talking about carsthat are in our fleet today,we're going to betalking about used cars.Because used cars-- huge partof the automotive universe.Example, in 2015 17.4million new cars sold.You know how many usedcars were sold that year?You're going tell us.Hazard a guess?Hazard a guess?Three times.Oh, you studied.43 million used carswere sold that year.44 million used carswere sold in 2016.So it's a hugepart of the world.And I think, like Jen was sayingat one point, a lot of peopleobviously buy them becauseit's the only option for them.Right?Right.They can't they can't evenfathom 25 grand or 30 grandfor a new car.They just can't do it.So I mean, there's just a weirdopposite thing going on, right?So people are buyingused cars, but everyone'stalking about new cars.And we talk about newcars all the time,because it's the shinynew thing, right?You go to the auto show, there'sno auto show for used cars.Maybe there shouldbe, because there'sa whole lot more choicesin the used car market.Exactly.Exactly.Well, it's all the cars thatpeople have been leasing,you know?They traded it, they're donewith the three-year lease,they bring them back, therewould be something new.Lot of cars people trade in.They're good vehicles,they're solid,you know, theytook care of them,and they're out therefor people to buy.And like Jen was saying, yeah,the new car right now, $33,000,$35,000 is the average price.That's a ton of money.Mhm.Mhm.And the choices youhave for used carshave never been greater.So there's new waysof getting used cars.I mean, you cango to Craigslist,you could go on eBay,Motors you could go--and to the point of leasing.Leasing has really explodedin the last several years.And what that meansis there's tonsof these cars in the market.It's not about gettingthe used rental car,because you don't knowhow that really went,but you have these certifiedpre-owned vehicles thatare about 36,000 miles,they've been taken care of,and they actually come witha manufacturer warranty.Well, especially the certifieds.And they're not old.They're not even old.Three years, four years old.That's right.Right, exactly.Yeah, yeah.And some of them are evenoff of a two-year lease,because some people can onlyget into a two-year leaseto be able to lease something.And the certified ones are, inparticular, really interesting.I mean, for yearswe talked about,don't get any one witha certified warranty,you know, don't getextended warranty,just buy the reliable car.And it's true.You know, buy that Honda Accordand don't get the warrantyon it.Because, you know,9 times out of 10--and our reliabilitydata shows it--it's going to be a solid car.And you take that $2,000for certification and youput it in the bank.Right.You know what, if you'retaking a risk on something,or if you just want that extrabacking of having the warranty,it--if you know about it upfront,go ahead and do that.And those are the carsthat the dealers takeand they certify, becausethey know they're alreadyin good condition.Well, I mean, I thinkit's really importantto separate the twothings about the,kind of, thetraditional used carwarranty and the certifiedpre-owned vehicle.So I mean, it used to beyou go to a used car lot.It was John's, you know,Special Used Cars--The wavy things goingaround like that, right?The wavy guy, yeah.And I mean, these cars, youhave no idea what happened.And you're paying extrafor this \"used carwarranty\" that covers thisbut doesn't cover this,and who knows if that placeis going to be around?But when you're buying a usedMercedes Benz or a used Hondathat has been leased, and nowyou've got a factory-backedextended warranty--That's key.That's key.It's kind of a different animal.And if your alternativeis buying a new car,you know, a lot ofpeople, they don'twant to get a used carbecause of risk involved.Right?I mean, they don't want tohave somebody else's problems.They don't want a carthat's under warranty.They don't want to have toput in a new transmission,or whatever these issues are.But these cars, ifyou do your homework,you get a car that'sreliable and the carthat's actually backed--you're almost getting thesame experience as a used car.As a new car.As a new car.Right, right.Well, and, you know,just if there'sany other reason for whywe're talking about it,just think of this.Some numbers for you.The wonky-- you know,little boring, but--All right.It makes a big point.I'm tuning-- tuneout, everybody.What are you doing?The average price ofa new car? $35,000.OK?Value up to six months?$31,000.Oh, so it's immediate, yeah.Value after one year?$28,000.Value after threeyears, so that carthat just came offthe lease. $17,900.It just lost--Wow.So it's a huge jump.--50% of its value.In three years.Sounds like a great investment.The average car.Sounds like a greatinvestment, right.You know, sign meup for another one.Whereas when you geta used car, you'renot going through that at all.You're getting a carthat has lost its value,and it's a much slower decline.So you might get a nicethree-year-old vehiclethat's lost 50% of its value.After six years, youknow, it's lost much less.You're not cutting yourvalue in half again.And in particular, peoplewith kids getting into a car.You know, you would like themto get the newest car possible,of course, right Jen?Yeah, we'll talk about thatwhen I get to my picks.So yeah, I bring that in.Don't give it away yet.Getting there.But it is, it's the option thatmost families have for a car.You know, and that's wherea huge part of the marketis going to be.You know, it's a studentin high school or someonewho's graduatecollege, a lot of debt,possibly, or juststarting out in the world.Right.First job, yeah.You know, that's key.So that's why, ideas likethat, reasons like that,are why we've kind oftaken a look at this.Because most peoplebuy by price.Some people buy by style.I want an SUV, andthen they go that way.But you know what?You know your budget,and you fall into it.So we've put outthe question, so,what if your budget was$10,000, $15,000, or $20,000?What would you buy?And we're going tostart at $10,000.And we haven'tshared this yet, so.We haven't shared this, so it'sall going to be the same car.We don't know eachother's picks yet.It's all going to be an E30 M3--Don't peek.--or an Audi RS4, right?Stop.Right?Stop.So anyway, I'm going to throwit to Jen first, because Iwant to know, $10,000--so anywhere up to $10,000, yourbudget, what would you choose?OK.So I picked-- and again, we'rechoosing some from our used cardata, cars that arekind of our good bets,so I picked an '08,'09 Hyundai Sonata.OK.So the reason Ipicked it is, whenyou start in that under $10,000range, as you would expect,it skews way over tosubcompacts, compacts.Stuff that was inexpensivein the first place.Sonata, get you a littlemore room than some of those.I think the used car--I mean, it's a greatvalue when it's new,that keeps going intothe used car market.You touched on-- and I'mgoing to say it here.We are just startingto see again--and I've said this before, asa mother of a young driver,it's the firsttime we're startingto see the standard ESC carscome in under that $10,000 markin volume.There was a few.But now you can get a car withstandard Electronic StabilityControl for a youngdriver under $10,000.And that's a life-savingsafety feature.Right.I mean, it's themodern safety belt.Right.If there's nothingelse, we've said,for a teen driver or a youngdriver, you've got to get that.The one thing I noticedon the Hyundai, too,is we publish a range forthose '08, '09 Sonatas,it's getting close to the $5,000mark at the base of the range.You compare it to an '07Accord, a year older,and that's $7,500.So you're already bouncingagainst the more reliablenames.I think you benefitsomewhat from Hyundai'sstill reputation, that it stillbattles with, in the value.So that was my pick,Hyundai Sonata.Yeah, and they made a--they made a good car,and they just--They made a great car.--that, the baggage ofpeople still thinking,when they came over back inthe late '80s, early '90s,and they were puttingout just garbage.Yep.And I still hear it.I don't know if youguys still hear it,like, ugh, Hyundai, ugh, Kia.You know?You'll get get that comment.They do have thatreputation, yeah.They do!They do.And I'm like, no, no,it's not the same anymore.So, anyway.That's right.Jake.What have you got?Yes.Well first of all,yes, I did cheat.I used ConsumerReports information.And you know-- I meanlook, I mean, our--So our-- you know, so we havea lot of products on that.We have a whole robust roll out,basically, of used car data.Yeah.I mean, if you're payingattention on Consumer ReportsOnline, even if you'renot a subscriber,you could go on there andyou could see basicallyevery single yearof the used car.You could see what goeswrong with the cars,we put a lot of freeinformation out there too,which is kind of----this information.Well, and a lot of whatpeople think about those cars.What, actually, experiencesthey had with reliability.So it's all there.But, let me preface this,that this is not my car.This is my advice to a friend.And I say that becauseI would probablyget something wackylike, you know,an early '90s RX7 or something.A classic of some sort.Yeah, exactly.So I mean, nobody really wantsto know what I'm getting,but I mean, if someone came tome and said, I've got $10,000,I want to buy a car.2010 Mazda 6.I mean, again, it is the carthat's got stability control,it's got unbelievablereliability.You can get them witha six-speed manual,they're actually available, andthat's a great transmission.Really makes the car really fun.But, you know, roomy.It's a good choice.Yeah.Solid vehicle, solid.I put a couple ofoptions in each one.Oh, so you're cheating, too.Overachiever, overachiever!I set up the questions,you know, I'm hosting.It's my shiny baldhead that getsto be seen most of the time.So, a.Couple of categories2010 to '12 Mazda 3.I chose the '10 to '12,even though there'sother ones that are reliable,because of crash tests.The side impact crashtest on pre-2010s Mazda 3swas not good.Was not good, yep.So good fuel economy, goodcrash test on that one.And then you kind of toss itup between an '07 Honda Accordand an '07, '09 Ford Fusion.You know, sameclass, family sedan.You know, reliable.The Accord is thefinal year of the run.And I chose itspecifically for that one,because we often see thatthe final year of a carwhen it's built--Oh, yeah.It's one of the best.--is when they workedout all the problems.You know, and it tends tohave the most equipment.They're, OK, fine.We'll throw that in, as well.It used to be anoption on the base one,and it wasunlimited, now they all get it.So those are three there.Looking at it from afamily perspective, I mean,I've got two littlekids, you know.What would I get--what would I recommend to me ifI was standing outside my body?Right.And also, you're justrecommending all the cars.Yeah, well.Any other ones you want to add?I did have a couple others ifI, you know, undid my edits.I think we'll roll through.But I have a couple morein the next group, so.So, Jen, what if you wereable to bump the budget up?OK, so now you're lookingat $15,000 as your ceiling.OK.So my take here is that usedcars also get you the carthat you really always wantednew, but could never afford.That reach car.So I put in there anInfiniti M. '07, '08 M.So you think of a brandnew Q 70, $50,000.Right?That's not happening.But as the M-- which weliked from even early,we loved that car, thebalance, you know--that it gives you thechance to get that caryou always wanted,couldn't afford.And in my case I needthe all-wheel drive,so that was a cool thingfor that one as well.Right, that was available.So rear-wheel driveor all-wheel drive.So OK.Jake, what about--I like Jen's pick.Oh, you did!No, and just a second, because--Oh, you guys didn't collaborate.No, no, that wasn't my pick.No, I'm just saying I thinkhers was better than mine.And for anybody who'sfamiliar with that car,that is the old Infiniti.I mean, thatInfiniti was awesome.I mean, they werejust head-to-headwith BMW, Mercedes Benz.The interior quality justblows away current Infinities.I mean, it's just areally, really nice car.I think thesystem, in today's Infinitis isthe same as back then, though.I think it was better back then.I think it was betterback then, yeah.It worked more.It wasn't overly complicated.It was more reliable.Right.Yeah, it was good.Anyway, all right.No, my choice wasn't the M.I would get a 2014 Mazda 3.Again, mind meld.I mean, the '14 Mazda 3, thisis basically the same carthat you'd buy a new car.I mean, it's prettymuch the same vehicle.It's got the Skyactiv engine,which is super fuel-efficient.The car's been really reliable.You could get a hatchbackversion with a stick shift,that again it is just--That stick shift, again.--such a blast to drive.And reliable, fuel-efficient.And again, nobody even knowsthat you have a used car.Yeah.The current body style--It is.Yep, like you said.Good choice.Not as good as yours.As your four.It's actually five,if you want to--No, he ran out of room on this.I didn't want tohave to tab over.So 2007 to '10 AcuraTSX, because thatwas one of the last carsthat Acura had its mojo.It's a little small.You can get a wagon, sothat's the journalists' love,you know, you get a wagon, OK.There you go.It was the EuropeanHonda Accord.That's right.So you have this sporty car,it has luxury-ish features,you know, you can getsome luxury with it.Reliable, again, superreliable, but fun to drive.If you wanted someluxury at a bargain base,kind of like your InfinitiM, Hyundai Genesis from 2009.You know, again, even thenew ones fly under the radar.No one would really--I mean, the grills area little different,but you wouldn't reallyknow the difference.A lot of features for the money.And then also the family thing,an '09 Odyssey or a Sienna.And it's a toss-up.Well, that's a lot of vehiclefor the money right there.It's a lof of vehiclefor the money,and you get 19 miles per gallon,and you can get all-wheel drivewith this Toyota Sienna.Right.And we're talking aboutNissan Versa prices.Oh, yeah, exactly.I mean, you know, $15,000, you'dbe happy to get a Honda Fit.Right.That would be tough.That would be toughright there, yeah.--to get that.So you're getting a vehicle forseven, possibly eight people,depending on how it's set up.You're getting a reliable car.And for the Northeast--like you said,people who need it for snow,you can get all-wheel drive.So top of the budget. $20,000.We're still not at newcar prices anywhere,you know, for average.But $20,000 is a lot ofmoney to spend on a new car--on a used car, excuse me.What would you like?OK, you touched onthis a little bit,because the other thingthat used lets you getis the bigger car.So I always love, and you'lllaugh and you'll laugh,but I like that Ford Flex.We talked about wagons.You and the Flex again.I love the Flex!And I do.And again, bigkids, so much room.Big appetites.And I am a wagon--I just like wagons.It's kind of thisretro love that I have,and so you canfit seven adults--I mean, we still say whenthere's minivans and three-rowstuff here, we'refighting over in.So if you could get thatfor that under $20,000,the reliability is good.And again, I looked atSienna, too, that same idea.It's a year later whenyou get up to the 20.One thing I did notice, though.So in our used carcontent now, youcan actually look and see ifthere's inventory in your area.One of the cool things is,can I find one near me?Right.It's all good to have this list,but if there's nothing around,you have no idea where to start.Right, so you clickthis link, and guesswhat I found on the Ford Flex?None available, becausethey're so popular.None available becausethey're so popular.Because it's justyou that likes them.Because you havethem all in your--So there is that riskthere, so I wouldhave to expand my search area.But yeah.But that's where it'sworth it with a used car.Right, you can do that.You get-- it doesn'tmatter the dealerwhere you buy it at that point.I've had two friendswho have literallyflown across the country,picked up a used car--in climates that mightbe even a little betterthan the Northeast, withno salt and all that--and driven the car back.Two.So you know, that'sthe other thing,is it's not limitedto the Northeast.I have to delete my choice.Uh-oh, did you havethe Ford Flex in there?I did.You did.Oh, I knew it.I'm not the only one.Flex buddies.I'm not the only one.Exactly.Jake?I did not have the Ford Flex.Well, that's good,because the conversationwould get pretty boring.Yes.So I, my choice--So $20,000.$20,000 is your ceiling.It's kind of like whereyou'd buy, like, a Corolla.About $20,000 these days.Yeah, you're noteven getting a--A Dodge Dart is like,probably $21,000.You know--It was $28,000, and thenthey put a lot of money in.Was, was.OK.Now they're giving them away.So it's not a lot ofmoney for a new car.But my car would--let's see.Standard stabilitycontrol, goes 0 to 60in 5.6 seconds, 328horsepower, roomy, comfortable,lots of room for four people.2011, an Infiniti G 37.You were just talking aboutthis, outside of this table.Yeah.It's just-- it'san incredible car.I mean, it's backwhen-- you know, again,going back toInfiniti back when--make the Infinitigreat again, right?But I mean, Infiniti, just--I mean, it was right up there,3 Series, A4, just head-to-head.But extremely reliable.The reliability we have on thosevehicles, 2011, just stellarreliability.But you get the performanceand the driving funand all that good stuff.Based on our tests, Irecommended that to my uncle.He has it, he bought a G37X.Loves it, drives it toFlorida, drives it back.Drives it around the country,because they don't fly.So they spend aton of hours in it.He had a problem with one,rolled into a random dealerin Georgia.They took care of him, gavehim a loaner car for a while.Oh, that's the other thing.Got to take it--loves it.He keeps talkingabout it, every time.Has Tesla lust, but loves his G.And is kind of at the point of,like, he's got200,000 miles on itand he doesn't know what to do.Right.Where do you?Where do you go?What do you think ofthe new ones, and such.OK, I'll take off my list.Oh, my goodness.Oh, see?More mind meld.So now I have a smaller list.Now I'm with you guys.2011 Cadillac CTS.Little out there, edgystyling, but get that luxury,reliability.It's above averagereliability, performance.You know, it's-- it'sa little bit out there,and it gives you the luxury,but it's something that youdon't see every day now.It stands out, it'sa little distinct.It was one of the lastof that generationof really good Cadillac.The new CTS is a great car.This gives you some fun, givesyou a little bit of room.It's got a little bit ofcheesiness in the interior,I will say that, butoverall that's a solid one.And family car, I have togive a little bit of loveto the Acura MDXthat's in my garage.My wife has an '11, the2010 was a good car.Sporty ride, good handling.Tons of buttons.So if you likebuttons in your car,I think there's, like, 47buttons all over the dash.And it has a knob, as well.You know, central controller.So you get both of those.Strong engines.So that's my choice.I have a friend who has one, herteenagers are now driving it.It just keeps goingand going and going.Yeah, it does.I mean, we don't drive it alot, so we have low miles on it,but it's paid off.And it's one ofthose where, like,what will we get for this?And my wife sits in allthe cars that I bring home.She's like, there'sreally nothingI'm seeing that'sgoing on with that.Well, I mean, look.We have older cars.I mean, again, it'sa what would you get?It's like, look atwhat we do have.And again, you know, my wife'sdriving a 2006 Toyota Prius.125,000 miles, it'sgot stability control,it's got Bluetooth, it'sgot a back-up camera,it's had no problems.Nothing.Right.And we had the Prius we broughtin with 200,000 miles on it,and the performancedrop was insignificant.Right, still getting40 miles per gallon.Exactly.Exactly.So with that, we do havea couple of questionsthat people sent into us, and one of themis right for you, Jen.In fact, I think youmight even know who--Uh-oh.About a Fusion?I love the 2015 GMC Camry--Canyon, excuse me, butthat mid-size pickup truck,and you guys seem tohate pickup because theydon't drive like cars.They're not supposed toeither, they're trucks, and I--you guys don't understandwhy people like them.And I think someone'sa little confused--Is that my husband?I think that's my husband.It sounds like Jack.Except it's the Canyonand not what he drives.No.So that is my husband.For you guys--that is my husband.He drives a 2012Nissan Frontier,and he loves his truck.Now, I will tell you, heloads the bed maybe 10 daysa year, really.So the other 355days, he's usingit to drive backand forth to work.We're pretty rural,we have horses,we need the bed sometimes.And he's an outdoorsman,he really likes it.But that's, I think, whywe rate them the way we do.We don't expect anybody to thinkthey're going to be like cars,but we certainly wantto make that comparison.Because for most people,they're using themmore as just transportationthan they are as trucks.If that makes any sense.Yeah, and well, firstof all, it's relative--Him included.--ride, relative handling.No one thinks thatyour husband's truckis going to ride and handlelike this Mazda CX5 over here,you know, or a Tesla, oreven a Toyota Corolla.I mean, they're alldifferent categories.But, you know-- And thequestion came, really,from talking aboutthe Ridgeline.When we do tests, all thepickup trucks in the category,something is going tostand out in some place,and ride is one of the big ones.Right, Jake?Well, absolutely.And I think what's reallyimportant here is--I always kind ofcrack up when peopleare like, you guys don't likethis car, you guys don't like--It's not that we don'tlike it, we're justtelling people what it does.And I think it's animportant distinction.So it doesn't ride well, OK?It doesn't steer well.And therefore in the ratings,it's not going to do well.It doesn't meanwe don't like it.It's not easy to get intoa Corvette or 9/11, OK?It doesn't mean wedon't like them.We went on road bikesthe other day, right?They don't ride very well.They don't.They're not very comfortable.They're not.We love them!They don't protect youfrom the rain, either.We love them.So it's a different thing.Yeah.Within the category, if you'regoing to drive it every dayand you ask, likethe person did,oh, you know, I needa truck for my dadand he drives it everyday, and once in a whilehe goes to the dump.Well, a Ridgeline's goingto be a heck of a lotbetter, for a newcar, than a Takoma.Well, you touched on, too--you've got within the category,but you also have within theuniverse of all the cars.And that's where the trucksappear and we don't like them.Is in the universe.But within trucks, werecognize what they do welland what they don't do well.Exactly, exactly.Other question.We have, so you say thatall-wheel drive doesn't helpyou when it comes to cornering.Is that still true inall-wheel drive vehiclesthat include some form ofasymmetric torque vectoringsystem, such as Acura'sSuper-Handling All-Wheel DriveSystem, for example,or is that somethingthe CR has specificallytested for?I'm going to throw thehandling question--We'll let thehandling guy do that.--to Mr. Drift Car.Yeah.Yeah, it's a bit of a gimmick.It really is.I mean, look, we take allthe cars around the track.We take them and we pushthem at their limits.Now, first of all,with that system,basically you have to disablestability control and allthese things.And there's certain situationswhere you hit the gasand it'll do some fancystuff, but it reallydoesn't make a huge amountof difference at the limit.And it's certainlynot anything you'regoing to see in normal drivingif you're not on a racetrack.And even if youare, there are carsthat are normal all-wheeldrive that are stillgoing to be handling better.I mean, you know what?All-wheel drive, like, giveme an Audi A4 on the trackbefore one of those.The fancy--Versus MDX the SHall-wheel drive?Yes, yes.A4 versus MDX, yeah.And that's the thing.Everyday driving, 70miles out on the highway,it's not torque vectoringand loading the outside wheelslightly to make you hit thathuge bend eight hundredthsof a tenth of a second later.Yeah, you're quicker.It's the tires that it'sgoing to make the differencearound that corner.It's going to be about the grip,it's going to be about the--It may activate thewheel a little quicker,and that may in somesort of testing,say, OK well, for this group--But you're notgoing to notice it.You're not going to feel that.An in fact, oneof the big thingsthat I want to cometo with Mazda, theyhave a system where itchanges the throttlewhen you turn in tomake the car have less--and they then said, you'renever going to feel it.You are never, evergoing to feel it.You might see a little less headbob in a video, but that's it.Right.There's these incrementalthings that they doand, you know, and that's fine.But no, it's not making a bigdifference in the driving.But Jake touched on thetires as, just, the key.Well, it's the influence.So you have theselittle nuanced thingsthat you're sayingyou're not going to feel,then you have tire grip.That's the big nut, if youhave it or you don't have it.Right.And the only placethe nuanced thingis-- maybe a tweak inan emergency situation,but we should capture that.But not in your everydaydriving, to your point.Right, right.But with that, we're goingto wrap up this episode.As always, checkout the show notesbelow for moreinformation on the carsthat we talked aboutin this episode.Thanks for watching, andwe'll see you next time.\n"