**A Review of Origin PC's Mid-Range Gaming System**

I recently had the opportunity to test out Origin PC's mid-range gaming system, and I must say that it was a thoroughly enjoyable experience. The system is equipped with a powerful processor, plenty of RAM, and a high-performance graphics card, making it well-suited for demanding games.

One of the standout features of the system is its support team. When I called in to report an issue with my system's temperature, the technician I spoke with was incredibly knowledgeable and helpful. I acted as though I had no idea what I was doing, telling him that I had purchased the system a year ago and installed a program that was running it at 90 Celsius (or Fahrenheit). He patiently explained that this was not normal operating temperature for a computer and recommended checking software that could adjust fan RPMs to keep the system cool.

I was impressed by the technician's expertise and the level of support I received. The conversation lasted about 30 minutes, during which he offered me suggestions for troubleshooting my issue. His advice was spot on, and I left feeling like I had learned something new. This kind of expert-level support is exactly what you want from a company, especially if you're not tech-savvy.

I also reached out to Origin's sales team for recommendations on upgrading my system. I mentioned that I wanted to purchase a high-performance graphics card to improve my gaming experience, and they provided me with some excellent options. They also suggested that I upgrade my RAM from 8 GB to 16 GB, but advised me that 6-7 GB would be sufficient for my needs.

One area where the system fell short was in terms of build quality. While the components themselves were well-made, there were a few quirks with the design. For example, the PCI riser, which connects various components to the motherboard, felt flimsy and could have been more robustly constructed. Additionally, the system's fans were quite loud, especially when running at high temperatures.

However, these are minor complaints in an otherwise excellent system. The build quality is acceptable, if not outstanding, and the price point is reasonable considering Origin PC's boutique status. In fact, I would argue that this mid-range gaming system offers great value for its price.

Overall, I was very happy with my experience using Origin PC's support team. Their expertise and knowledge are top-notch, and their advice was spot on. While there were a few issues with build quality, these can be overlooked in light of the excellent service I received.

**The System Itself**

I have to say that I'm pretty happy with the overall build quality of this system. The components themselves are well-chosen and well-built, and the system feels solidly constructed. However, there is one notable exception: the PCI riser. This component felt flimsy and could have been more robustly constructed.

In terms of design, I would say that the system's aesthetic is a bit bland. While it's not ugly by any means, it doesn't exactly scream "gaming system." However, this is to be expected from a mid-range system, and I wouldn't expect anything else from Origin PC.

**Thermals**

One of the biggest issues with this system is its thermals. When I first started using the system, I noticed that it was running quite hot, with temperatures reaching up to 90 Celsius (or Fahrenheit). This was not only uncomfortable but also potentially damaging to the components.

To address this issue, I would recommend installing a high-quality air cooling solution and adjusting the fan settings accordingly. With proper ventilation and a well-designed cooling system, this system should be able to run cool and quiet even during intense gaming sessions.

**Support**

As I mentioned earlier, Origin PC's support team is top-notch. Their technician was incredibly knowledgeable and helpful, offering me expert-level advice on how to troubleshoot my issue. The conversation lasted about 30 minutes, and I left feeling like I had learned something new.

I also reached out to Origin's sales team for recommendations on upgrading my system. They provided me with some excellent options and offered sage advice on how to improve my gaming experience.

**Conclusion**

Overall, I'm very happy with my experience using Origin PC's mid-range gaming system. The support team was excellent, the system itself is well-built and well-designed, and the price point is reasonable considering the company's boutique status. However, there are a few areas where the system falls short – specifically in terms of build quality and thermals.

If you're in the market for a new gaming system, I would definitely recommend Origin PC. Their support team is expert-level, and their systems offer great value for their price point. Just be sure to address the thermal issues by installing a high-quality air cooling solution and adjusting the fan settings accordingly.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enwhether or not SI like origin cyber power and iy power interest you as a DIY Builder this review should have some pretty interesting data for you we did extensive thermal analysis on this small form factor enclosure you can see the GPU is pretty tight in there but it's got a ventilation port and a chosing a blower fan so interesting test to look at so we have extensive data that may be interesting whether or not you're going to buy one of these things now this is an origin Kronos I think it's the VR Edition though they also have a non-vr Edition and and it's basically it's a small form facture box I think this is a custom case I do not know who the OEM is but I couldn't find it on new so it is a custom case it is similar in some ways to I power Revolt 2 the iowers Revolt 2 they made and that's only because it's also a small form factor box they've each got their own kind of flare this one has red LEDs around the window whatever it's just it's a box right but it's a small box so that makes thermals pretty interesting with this thing I think this this is a $2,300 $ 2392 unit counting the LEDs the GTX 1080 the i76700k and a few other components and we'll do a price analysis later before getting to our call audits where I audit the tax support and the sales teams posing as an incompetent customer let's talk about thermals then we'll go to noise power FPS and all that other stuff and see if this thing's actually any good uh even if you're a DIY Builder so thermals first these numbers are presented as a delta T value that means we subtract out the ambient temperature we have a video on this that you can check on the channel it was posted just before this one add in your local temperature to get the full temperature value the Kronos runs pretty hot the result of a small form factor box with overclocked components is that it will run hot and this one hits 74.6 delta T over ambient that's in Celsius for the CPU cores and that means we're regularly hitting 100 C on a few of the CPU cores if if you factor in ambient and that causes the CPU to throttle back upon hitting TJ Maxx the same issue happens with the GTX 1080 Fe which is hitting 62.5 H celsi Peak average and that's in the range of 88 to 9091 Celsius when accounting for ambient in an open air bench without the inherent restrictions of an ITX box we saw Peak temperatures around 82c with a throttle Point uh for the GTX 1080 Fe at that temperature just maintain these temperatures of 74.6 C delta T for the CPU and the 62.5 HC for the GPU just maintaining those requires the vrm fan to run at 100% And we Auto configured the GPU fan to 55% for some tests which are shown on the screen now and the reason I did that is to get a direct Apples to Apples comparison of how well this box performs without the window versus with the window and so we actually see a somewhat uh different performance output we're getting about 5 celsus better when removing the acrylic window which creates somewhat of a basically a dimic wall I guess is one way to say it and our suggestion to origin based on this data would be to just drill a few holes in this thing uh they don't it doesn't even have to be a mesh just a couple small holes it won't look quite as pretty but if you get a couple degrees out of it that's actually a big deal and I'll tell you why for our short-term tests the GPU spikes in frequency erratically over the test period as a result of thermal fluctuations this means that the 1080 is functioning as designed and it's using boost 3.0 to bounce the clock rate as a means to reduce or control temperature and we'll use crossbars to highlight these spikes note that around the 600 second Mark the temperature is hitting a range of 90 Celsius for the non- Delta value or about 65c Delta and compare that to harsh sudden drops of frequency where we fall to nearly 1600 MHz we see that the temperature Spike lines up with the frequency Spike and the reduced clock is the only way the GPU can stay within its spec this results in heavy impact to frame rate at times and as the clock rate was initially 1960 to 2,000 MHz uh it over the course of testing fell to 1,600 MHz and we do see that reflected in frame rates and sometimes frame times during the spikes but this can be partially resolved we ran a two hour endurance test using a different game Metro last Light to see how it responds to 1440p with complete Max settings in Metro as light and it's a little bit less intensive on the clock rate not quite as clock biased and the test was conducted with the preconfigured overclock and auto fan speed settings in this test the first chart shows GPU temperature versus frequency versus time notice that the frequency is more stable here than in the previous test that we showed we still can't maintain the 2,000 MHz clock rate but we're able to sit at about 1,900 MHz and the temperature is represented as a non- Delta value this time so what you're seeing is the actual GPU diode temperature with ambient added we're at 90c here and the only way to achieve the thermal and oscillation clock oscillation stability is to allow the fan to Auto boost up to 100% speed or 4,000 RPM that obviously impacts noise so let's look at the noise data next this chart shows our noise testing we subtract out ambient noise floor by using a logarithmic formula for computing the Deltas between decimal values as they can't be simply subtracted for reference the GTX 10 80f on our open air bench is present Origins Kronos runs at a pretty steady hum with its idle noise level at about 52.9 DB using the preconfigured BIOS smart fan and auto GPU fan settings for comparison the open air test bench with a 1080 Fe Idols about 37.5 DB but that is using an x41 CLC and a Hal 90 PSU these are the only fans in that test system so they're a good deal quieter than something like an ITX box a better comparison of course would be ITX build from other SI but we only just recently added DB testing so I didn't do it back when we had the Revolt 2 cuz we didn't have DB testing methodology in place yet Origins hitting about 58 DB under 100% RPM which is only slightly louder than the open air 1080 at 100% fan RPM the two are more or less the same to the listener but the big Point here is that the 1080 Fe will basically never hit 100% fan speeds when in an open air bench or in a a sort of full tower case the only reason it will go that high is if it can't sit steady at 82 celsi with a 50ish per fan speed this case it can't do that obviously so it's pushing pretty hard up to 100% RPM uh which is 4,000 and then it's able to keep its 90 Celsius temperature a bit better so it's a fairly loud idle noise level the GPU fan does regulate itself idle at 1100 RPM but the CPU Fan's pushing 2,000 uh it's one of those slim fans on on basically a liquid cooler it's a 120 mm liquid cooler so it's it's a little bit noisy idle but the full load temperature is what you would expect it's just ideally you don't hit 100% RPM with the GPU fan Under full load so let's talk about power next the system we have has a 450 W sfx PSU from Corsair it's actually a good power supply and it it does sound a bit crazy on the surface to put a 450 wat PSU with basically a flagship card like a 1080 but that's where the world is now with TDP so technically Nvidia recommends a 500 W power supply it's a bit of a safe recommendation unless you are putting the system under uh a transcode 100% workload for the GPU and a 100% maybe uh large for your transforms on the CPU unless you're doing that simultaneously this 450 wat power supply availability is not going to be an issue and that's not really a use case you would have for almost any system anyway so the 450 watts is plenty when we did the testing I saw a power draw of 2829 Watts for full system power when running 3D Mark fire strike Ultra at 4K looping using the combined test to hit both the CPU and the GPU pretty heavily so that's fully within acceptable range it's a bit over the 50% power draw Mark that's fine this power supply is not going to be threatened it'll still live a long and good life so uh I will commend and not going Overkill with the power supply this is something a lot of the SI really fail with they'll send us I think I power did this in the past and I think cyber power has as well they'll send us a system with a 700 wat or 800 watt power supply and it's totally unnecessary uh and it just pushes this idea that more watts equals better but we all know that's not how performance works so I am glad that in at least this one way origin's recommending a good amount of power and not going crazy overkill on it just to Spike the price or use mdfs or whatever all right so frame rates are next this is a very trivial test here it's not like our GPU reviews with frame rate testing for SI builds you're going to see the same performance you see with the review of the GTX 1080 other than the pre- overclock they've applied but we're still going to run through them anyway uh so just if this is what to expect if you want to play at 1440p or 480 this system for quick bursted FPS tests shows a 145 FPS average for Black Ops 3 on high with tightly timed 1 % 0.1% lows Doom with openg GL 4.5 hits 121 FPS with settings tweaks or Vulcan you could hit 144 Hertz GTA 5 has worse 0.1% lows but is hitting a 113 FPS average and these charts don't tell us anything we don't already know obviously 1080 can handle 1440p the same is mostly true for 4K which is represented on the screen now the overclock is mostly beneficial but we do see some stability test and endurance runs resulting in heat buildup and this does actually negate the overclock pretty much immediately and drops us down to the 1600 MHz range and that impacts frame rate over time if you were to look at such a metric now build quality as a whole this is one of the places origin does pretty well in addition to the power supply selection component selection I mostly agreed with I really wouldn't have made any major changes to the components now obviously this is this particular case is basically a matter of uh pick the highest end thin and put it in there so it's it is kind of hard to do poorly with that but the motherboard is a good one it's an Asus uh z170 board they didn't go crazy in that regard but it's it's not bad either the assembly quality is good the cable management is very clean in the main compartment you don't see a lot of cables uh one major point that I would really recommend origin improve on is the pcie Riser cable and I'm only mentioning this because it doesn't look good the performance is going to be the same but the pcie Riser cable they're using basically looks like it has duct tape on it it's kind of of a gray with I think green and black uh so it's irrelevant to Performance you can't even see it through this window so the average user is never going to know but if someone does open it up and say uh maybe they produce b-roll for a video it just looks kind of bad so it's one of those things that making it black isn't going to impact anything other than uh people won't think it looks bad which is important if you're trying to Market a product so that is a suggestion I would make but it's kind of a Mot suggestion in the face of performance metrics because it won't impact anything uh the other thing with build quality tubes cables that's done pretty well the overclock was 4.6 GHz on the CPU that's a pre OC the voltage the V core was uh was maybe a little aggressive but I I would not feel bad about the V cor I think it was 1 Point pushing like 1.3 something like that I I I don't feel bad about it but um not bad for something that's getting pushed out of a factory the uh GPU was hitting a frequency of 1961 MHz also not bad unfortunately you can't really sustain that because The Thermals but it's a decent overclock overall I believe they use EVGA Precision that's pre-installed it auto Boots the startup so everything's done for you and that is something that they do well PSU selection is good they didn't go crazy with any of that stuff price is okay if you went to New Egg or whatever and sort of pick this out yourself uh which I did you'd be looking at about 1818 $1,800 for the build DIY approach that's assuming you can find an ITX case that's similar to this I kind of just picked a ro or a Silverstone rvz case that's I think $70 so you'd be looking about $18 to $1,900 and then obviously you build it yourself this is $23.96 having the notes here in front of me now that includes the $15 LED strip so it's 23 something uh that puts origin at about $580 almost more than DIY and that makes them really a uh a premium over some of their competitors iy power is about 100 to $200 more on average for most of their systems if you pick strictly part versus part we're not changing the part selection here cyber power is about the same $100 $200 more and that's really uh not unreasonable if you don't want to build a computer to pay someone 100 to 200 bucks to do it for you is not that bad of a deal now obviously folks who can do it themselves do it yourself whatever so uh it's it's got a bit of a premium versus the competitors that fits origin sort of Boutique shop appearance and their justification of this price is mostly 247 support pre- overclocks and a custom case so the one that we can audit the best is the support I called the support line I audited and so we called tech support twice the first time it is 24/7 so the first time I call at 7:30 p.m. eastern time and I got no answer after 25 minutes so I gave up I called back during normal business hours during this just before the shoot at uh 3:40 p.m. Eastern and got an answer in under 5 minutes from tech support which I think is mostly acceptable I I think the way origin could improve this would be a uh a call back feature so sometimes you'll call support and it's like we have a 30- minute wait do you want us to call back when we're ready for you hit one and it just does it uh I think they should do that for their after normal business hour support if it's going to take 30 minutes to get an answer in terms of competence I was pretty happy with the tech support I acted like a complete Noob to Hardware totally I told him I didn't know anything about the computer I didn't know what video card was in it all I know is I bought it like a year ago and I said I installed a program that said it's running at like 90 Celsius and I wanted to see if that was okay uh and he said 90 Celsius or 90 Fahrenheit 90 Celsius uh no is this said notebook or desktop no which is correct he said no uh you should check for software that's changing the fan RPM you should check uh ventilation dust all the normal suggestions so I completely agree with all the suggestions made those are the ones I would have made myself troubleshooting with someone who doesn't know what they own and I think they've done well in that regard I also called sales support I got an answer in about a minute sales is always that way isn't it because they want to sell you something and uh sales support I basically said I'm on your site I don't know what I should buy I have a 1080p monitor I'm playing GTA 5 and mirror at high settings what's a good video card for me to own and I was expecting them to say buy a 1080 because the most expensive and they've got an idiot on their hands me uh who clearly doesn't know any better they didn't they said he actually directly said I'm not going to push you to the 1080 I think it's too expensive for what you're doing the 1070 makes more sense for you and I more like agreed with that based on the kind of price range I gave him I also asked him should I get 8 gbes of Ram or 16 he said you don't need 16 gigb for just gaming and watching streams you'll probably use 6 to 7even gabes during those tasks simultaneously but you'll be fine and I agree with that as well that's data I've seen uh so their support is clearly competent which is not always the case for SI so well done origin there all right so overall uh this needs some work with thermals it seriously it does that is the main problem with this I am pretty happy with the overall build quality and part selection other than that PCI Riser thing which really is basically irrelevant I'm happy with the support line for the most part and I think that uh really the fault is in thermals noise idle is a bit loud but if you fix thermals you fix fix the noise because if it's running at 100% fan RPM when this thing's under gaming load uh that's obviously going to be l out and it's running at a high CPU RPM um idle just cuz it's a small kind of hot box and there's another there's a fan back here as well I believe which doesn't help things so they need to work on thermals uh the system as a whole is okay it's acceptable uh the closest competition of s the Revolt 2 which is a a wider form factor and is flashier so if you don't want that in your living room or something I guess you'd be looking at something like this but this is going to be a louder box so I wouldn't really recommend it necessarily for htpc it would be okay if you're using it as an on thee-o land computer or as a system in your main gaming room where you're going to put headphones on you won't hear the noise it's not that crazy loud so don't let this get blown out of proportion but uh it is loud enough where in a living room home theater environment I would not want it uh so thermals that's the the only real issue see if I have any other notes Here uh not really support was good uh buildt quality is decent price is a bit high but not terrible considering kind of Origins attempting to position themselves as a boutique shop rather than a factory that just pumps out systems like some of their competitors so overall not bad that needs work uh but okay overall I I think the support's good if you buy something like a mid Tower from them it'd be much better obviously so that's the review full disclosure origin sponsored US during the AMD rx480 release I want to put that out there this was the sponsor quite obviously uh we don't let sponsorship interfere with editorial quality or Integrity or ethics and that's really I just want to put that out there because it's important so uh yeah patreon like the post video if you want to help us out directly subscribe as always for more content thank you for watching I'll see you all next time Stwhether or not SI like origin cyber power and iy power interest you as a DIY Builder this review should have some pretty interesting data for you we did extensive thermal analysis on this small form factor enclosure you can see the GPU is pretty tight in there but it's got a ventilation port and a chosing a blower fan so interesting test to look at so we have extensive data that may be interesting whether or not you're going to buy one of these things now this is an origin Kronos I think it's the VR Edition though they also have a non-vr Edition and and it's basically it's a small form facture box I think this is a custom case I do not know who the OEM is but I couldn't find it on new so it is a custom case it is similar in some ways to I power Revolt 2 the iowers Revolt 2 they made and that's only because it's also a small form factor box they've each got their own kind of flare this one has red LEDs around the window whatever it's just it's a box right but it's a small box so that makes thermals pretty interesting with this thing I think this this is a $2,300 $ 2392 unit counting the LEDs the GTX 1080 the i76700k and a few other components and we'll do a price analysis later before getting to our call audits where I audit the tax support and the sales teams posing as an incompetent customer let's talk about thermals then we'll go to noise power FPS and all that other stuff and see if this thing's actually any good uh even if you're a DIY Builder so thermals first these numbers are presented as a delta T value that means we subtract out the ambient temperature we have a video on this that you can check on the channel it was posted just before this one add in your local temperature to get the full temperature value the Kronos runs pretty hot the result of a small form factor box with overclocked components is that it will run hot and this one hits 74.6 delta T over ambient that's in Celsius for the CPU cores and that means we're regularly hitting 100 C on a few of the CPU cores if if you factor in ambient and that causes the CPU to throttle back upon hitting TJ Maxx the same issue happens with the GTX 1080 Fe which is hitting 62.5 H celsi Peak average and that's in the range of 88 to 9091 Celsius when accounting for ambient in an open air bench without the inherent restrictions of an ITX box we saw Peak temperatures around 82c with a throttle Point uh for the GTX 1080 Fe at that temperature just maintain these temperatures of 74.6 C delta T for the CPU and the 62.5 HC for the GPU just maintaining those requires the vrm fan to run at 100% And we Auto configured the GPU fan to 55% for some tests which are shown on the screen now and the reason I did that is to get a direct Apples to Apples comparison of how well this box performs without the window versus with the window and so we actually see a somewhat uh different performance output we're getting about 5 celsus better when removing the acrylic window which creates somewhat of a basically a dimic wall I guess is one way to say it and our suggestion to origin based on this data would be to just drill a few holes in this thing uh they don't it doesn't even have to be a mesh just a couple small holes it won't look quite as pretty but if you get a couple degrees out of it that's actually a big deal and I'll tell you why for our short-term tests the GPU spikes in frequency erratically over the test period as a result of thermal fluctuations this means that the 1080 is functioning as designed and it's using boost 3.0 to bounce the clock rate as a means to reduce or control temperature and we'll use crossbars to highlight these spikes note that around the 600 second Mark the temperature is hitting a range of 90 Celsius for the non- Delta value or about 65c Delta and compare that to harsh sudden drops of frequency where we fall to nearly 1600 MHz we see that the temperature Spike lines up with the frequency Spike and the reduced clock is the only way the GPU can stay within its spec this results in heavy impact to frame rate at times and as the clock rate was initially 1960 to 2,000 MHz uh it over the course of testing fell to 1,600 MHz and we do see that reflected in frame rates and sometimes frame times during the spikes but this can be partially resolved we ran a two hour endurance test using a different game Metro last Light to see how it responds to 1440p with complete Max settings in Metro as light and it's a little bit less intensive on the clock rate not quite as clock biased and the test was conducted with the preconfigured overclock and auto fan speed settings in this test the first chart shows GPU temperature versus frequency versus time notice that the frequency is more stable here than in the previous test that we showed we still can't maintain the 2,000 MHz clock rate but we're able to sit at about 1,900 MHz and the temperature is represented as a non- Delta value this time so what you're seeing is the actual GPU diode temperature with ambient added we're at 90c here and the only way to achieve the thermal and oscillation clock oscillation stability is to allow the fan to Auto boost up to 100% speed or 4,000 RPM that obviously impacts noise so let's look at the noise data next this chart shows our noise testing we subtract out ambient noise floor by using a logarithmic formula for computing the Deltas between decimal values as they can't be simply subtracted for reference the GTX 10 80f on our open air bench is present Origins Kronos runs at a pretty steady hum with its idle noise level at about 52.9 DB using the preconfigured BIOS smart fan and auto GPU fan settings for comparison the open air test bench with a 1080 Fe Idols about 37.5 DB but that is using an x41 CLC and a Hal 90 PSU these are the only fans in that test system so they're a good deal quieter than something like an ITX box a better comparison of course would be ITX build from other SI but we only just recently added DB testing so I didn't do it back when we had the Revolt 2 cuz we didn't have DB testing methodology in place yet Origins hitting about 58 DB under 100% RPM which is only slightly louder than the open air 1080 at 100% fan RPM the two are more or less the same to the listener but the big Point here is that the 1080 Fe will basically never hit 100% fan speeds when in an open air bench or in a a sort of full tower case the only reason it will go that high is if it can't sit steady at 82 celsi with a 50ish per fan speed this case it can't do that obviously so it's pushing pretty hard up to 100% RPM uh which is 4,000 and then it's able to keep its 90 Celsius temperature a bit better so it's a fairly loud idle noise level the GPU fan does regulate itself idle at 1100 RPM but the CPU Fan's pushing 2,000 uh it's one of those slim fans on on basically a liquid cooler it's a 120 mm liquid cooler so it's it's a little bit noisy idle but the full load temperature is what you would expect it's just ideally you don't hit 100% RPM with the GPU fan Under full load so let's talk about power next the system we have has a 450 W sfx PSU from Corsair it's actually a good power supply and it it does sound a bit crazy on the surface to put a 450 wat PSU with basically a flagship card like a 1080 but that's where the world is now with TDP so technically Nvidia recommends a 500 W power supply it's a bit of a safe recommendation unless you are putting the system under uh a transcode 100% workload for the GPU and a 100% maybe uh large for your transforms on the CPU unless you're doing that simultaneously this 450 wat power supply availability is not going to be an issue and that's not really a use case you would have for almost any system anyway so the 450 watts is plenty when we did the testing I saw a power draw of 2829 Watts for full system power when running 3D Mark fire strike Ultra at 4K looping using the combined test to hit both the CPU and the GPU pretty heavily so that's fully within acceptable range it's a bit over the 50% power draw Mark that's fine this power supply is not going to be threatened it'll still live a long and good life so uh I will commend and not going Overkill with the power supply this is something a lot of the SI really fail with they'll send us I think I power did this in the past and I think cyber power has as well they'll send us a system with a 700 wat or 800 watt power supply and it's totally unnecessary uh and it just pushes this idea that more watts equals better but we all know that's not how performance works so I am glad that in at least this one way origin's recommending a good amount of power and not going crazy overkill on it just to Spike the price or use mdfs or whatever all right so frame rates are next this is a very trivial test here it's not like our GPU reviews with frame rate testing for SI builds you're going to see the same performance you see with the review of the GTX 1080 other than the pre- overclock they've applied but we're still going to run through them anyway uh so just if this is what to expect if you want to play at 1440p or 480 this system for quick bursted FPS tests shows a 145 FPS average for Black Ops 3 on high with tightly timed 1 % 0.1% lows Doom with openg GL 4.5 hits 121 FPS with settings tweaks or Vulcan you could hit 144 Hertz GTA 5 has worse 0.1% lows but is hitting a 113 FPS average and these charts don't tell us anything we don't already know obviously 1080 can handle 1440p the same is mostly true for 4K which is represented on the screen now the overclock is mostly beneficial but we do see some stability test and endurance runs resulting in heat buildup and this does actually negate the overclock pretty much immediately and drops us down to the 1600 MHz range and that impacts frame rate over time if you were to look at such a metric now build quality as a whole this is one of the places origin does pretty well in addition to the power supply selection component selection I mostly agreed with I really wouldn't have made any major changes to the components now obviously this is this particular case is basically a matter of uh pick the highest end thin and put it in there so it's it is kind of hard to do poorly with that but the motherboard is a good one it's an Asus uh z170 board they didn't go crazy in that regard but it's it's not bad either the assembly quality is good the cable management is very clean in the main compartment you don't see a lot of cables uh one major point that I would really recommend origin improve on is the pcie Riser cable and I'm only mentioning this because it doesn't look good the performance is going to be the same but the pcie Riser cable they're using basically looks like it has duct tape on it it's kind of of a gray with I think green and black uh so it's irrelevant to Performance you can't even see it through this window so the average user is never going to know but if someone does open it up and say uh maybe they produce b-roll for a video it just looks kind of bad so it's one of those things that making it black isn't going to impact anything other than uh people won't think it looks bad which is important if you're trying to Market a product so that is a suggestion I would make but it's kind of a Mot suggestion in the face of performance metrics because it won't impact anything uh the other thing with build quality tubes cables that's done pretty well the overclock was 4.6 GHz on the CPU that's a pre OC the voltage the V core was uh was maybe a little aggressive but I I would not feel bad about the V cor I think it was 1 Point pushing like 1.3 something like that I I I don't feel bad about it but um not bad for something that's getting pushed out of a factory the uh GPU was hitting a frequency of 1961 MHz also not bad unfortunately you can't really sustain that because The Thermals but it's a decent overclock overall I believe they use EVGA Precision that's pre-installed it auto Boots the startup so everything's done for you and that is something that they do well PSU selection is good they didn't go crazy with any of that stuff price is okay if you went to New Egg or whatever and sort of pick this out yourself uh which I did you'd be looking at about 1818 $1,800 for the build DIY approach that's assuming you can find an ITX case that's similar to this I kind of just picked a ro or a Silverstone rvz case that's I think $70 so you'd be looking about $18 to $1,900 and then obviously you build it yourself this is $23.96 having the notes here in front of me now that includes the $15 LED strip so it's 23 something uh that puts origin at about $580 almost more than DIY and that makes them really a uh a premium over some of their competitors iy power is about 100 to $200 more on average for most of their systems if you pick strictly part versus part we're not changing the part selection here cyber power is about the same $100 $200 more and that's really uh not unreasonable if you don't want to build a computer to pay someone 100 to 200 bucks to do it for you is not that bad of a deal now obviously folks who can do it themselves do it yourself whatever so uh it's it's got a bit of a premium versus the competitors that fits origin sort of Boutique shop appearance and their justification of this price is mostly 247 support pre- overclocks and a custom case so the one that we can audit the best is the support I called the support line I audited and so we called tech support twice the first time it is 24/7 so the first time I call at 7:30 p.m. eastern time and I got no answer after 25 minutes so I gave up I called back during normal business hours during this just before the shoot at uh 3:40 p.m. Eastern and got an answer in under 5 minutes from tech support which I think is mostly acceptable I I think the way origin could improve this would be a uh a call back feature so sometimes you'll call support and it's like we have a 30- minute wait do you want us to call back when we're ready for you hit one and it just does it uh I think they should do that for their after normal business hour support if it's going to take 30 minutes to get an answer in terms of competence I was pretty happy with the tech support I acted like a complete Noob to Hardware totally I told him I didn't know anything about the computer I didn't know what video card was in it all I know is I bought it like a year ago and I said I installed a program that said it's running at like 90 Celsius and I wanted to see if that was okay uh and he said 90 Celsius or 90 Fahrenheit 90 Celsius uh no is this said notebook or desktop no which is correct he said no uh you should check for software that's changing the fan RPM you should check uh ventilation dust all the normal suggestions so I completely agree with all the suggestions made those are the ones I would have made myself troubleshooting with someone who doesn't know what they own and I think they've done well in that regard I also called sales support I got an answer in about a minute sales is always that way isn't it because they want to sell you something and uh sales support I basically said I'm on your site I don't know what I should buy I have a 1080p monitor I'm playing GTA 5 and mirror at high settings what's a good video card for me to own and I was expecting them to say buy a 1080 because the most expensive and they've got an idiot on their hands me uh who clearly doesn't know any better they didn't they said he actually directly said I'm not going to push you to the 1080 I think it's too expensive for what you're doing the 1070 makes more sense for you and I more like agreed with that based on the kind of price range I gave him I also asked him should I get 8 gbes of Ram or 16 he said you don't need 16 gigb for just gaming and watching streams you'll probably use 6 to 7even gabes during those tasks simultaneously but you'll be fine and I agree with that as well that's data I've seen uh so their support is clearly competent which is not always the case for SI so well done origin there all right so overall uh this needs some work with thermals it seriously it does that is the main problem with this I am pretty happy with the overall build quality and part selection other than that PCI Riser thing which really is basically irrelevant I'm happy with the support line for the most part and I think that uh really the fault is in thermals noise idle is a bit loud but if you fix thermals you fix fix the noise because if it's running at 100% fan RPM when this thing's under gaming load uh that's obviously going to be l out and it's running at a high CPU RPM um idle just cuz it's a small kind of hot box and there's another there's a fan back here as well I believe which doesn't help things so they need to work on thermals uh the system as a whole is okay it's acceptable uh the closest competition of s the Revolt 2 which is a a wider form factor and is flashier so if you don't want that in your living room or something I guess you'd be looking at something like this but this is going to be a louder box so I wouldn't really recommend it necessarily for htpc it would be okay if you're using it as an on thee-o land computer or as a system in your main gaming room where you're going to put headphones on you won't hear the noise it's not that crazy loud so don't let this get blown out of proportion but uh it is loud enough where in a living room home theater environment I would not want it uh so thermals that's the the only real issue see if I have any other notes Here uh not really support was good uh buildt quality is decent price is a bit high but not terrible considering kind of Origins attempting to position themselves as a boutique shop rather than a factory that just pumps out systems like some of their competitors so overall not bad that needs work uh but okay overall I I think the support's good if you buy something like a mid Tower from them it'd be much better obviously so that's the review full disclosure origin sponsored US during the AMD rx480 release I want to put that out there this was the sponsor quite obviously uh we don't let sponsorship interfere with editorial quality or Integrity or ethics and that's really I just want to put that out there because it's important so uh yeah patreon like the post video if you want to help us out directly subscribe as always for more content thank you for watching I'll see you all next time St\n"