The WAN Show - New iPhone with SEVEN Headphone Jacks - September 9th 2016

The Frustration of Backspace: A Personal Struggle with Google Chrome's New Feature

As I sat at my desk, I found myself growing increasingly frustrated with something that, on paper, shouldn't have been an issue. The culprit? Google Chrome's new feature to disallow backspace as the back button. I personally don't have a lot of difficulty with this, but apparently, it's not everyone's cup of tea. The idea behind this feature is to prevent users from losing all their work by accidentally trying to backspace something and then losing a web form.

I decided to put Chrome through its paces to see if the feature would indeed behave as I expected. I loaded up a new page in the tab and attempted to use the back button, which should have taken me back to the previous page. However, since this was the first page I had loaded in the tab, it wouldn't have done anything anyway. I repeated the process, pressing the backspace key multiple times, hoping that Chrome would eventually yield to my will. But alas, the feature held strong, refusing to let me revert back to the previous page. I couldn't help but feel a bit miffed at the inconvenience.

It seems that this feature has been rolled out slowly and hasn't made it to all users yet. It hit this week, and I hadn't heard about it until now. As someone who relies heavily on backspace to navigate web pages, I have to admit that I'm not a fan of this new approach. However, I do appreciate the reasoning behind it – preventing users from losing their work by accidental backspacing.

As I continued browsing through my usual online activities, I found myself getting distracted by other tech news and announcements. One such announcement caught my attention: the Turing phone, reportedly featuring dual Snapdragon 830s with a 60-megapixel quad rear camera triplet lens, has been revealed. The reasoning behind this quadruple-camera setup is unclear, but it's likely to provide users with exceptional image quality.

The Turing phone also boasts other impressive specs, including dual front cameras, 20 megapixels, and 12 gigs of RAM. Its storage capacity will be limited to a single tab, no doubt due to the hefty price tag associated with this device. Another feature that caught my attention is the inclusion of deep learning AI, which could provide users with advanced features like facial recognition and object detection.

The phone's design and materials are also worth noting. The Turing phone will have a 5.8-inch display with a resolution of 1440 x 2560 pixels. Its body is made from a graphite oxide composite material, with a liquid metal 2.0 structural frame that provides added strength and durability. Perhaps the most impressive feature, however, is its battery life, which promises to provide instant charging thanks to a 2400 milliampere-hour super capacitor.

But what really gets my goat is the rumored specs for this phone – essentially, it's like someone took every high-end component and slapped them into one device without considering whether they actually work together. A quad nano SIM support system has also been announced, although it's unclear how these individual components will interact with each other.

Moving on to more exciting news: the confirmation of Half-Life 3 is still a topic of debate among gamers and fans. The game was first released in 1998, and since then, there have been numerous rumors, leaks, and speculations about its release date. According to recent reports, the game will be released sometime this year – but when exactly?

The anticipation surrounding Half-Life 3 is palpable, especially given the success of previous installments in the series. The original Half-Life was released back in 1998 and became a cultural phenomenon, while Half-Life 2 took the gaming world by storm with its immersive storyline and cutting-edge graphics.

As I mentioned earlier, May 13th marks an interesting milestone – it's the date when The Phantom Menace will have come out closer to Return of the Jedi than to the present. This might seem like a trivial observation, but it highlights how time flies, especially for those who grew up in the 90s and early 2000s.

And speaking of VR technology, Oculus has announced that their Touch controller price will be €200 (approximately $220 USD). The Touch controller is an essential component for virtual reality experiences, allowing users to interact with digital environments in a more immersive way. With its high-end specs and competitive pricing, it's likely to appeal to gamers and tech enthusiasts alike.

Finally, the recent presidential election in the United States has left many people feeling perplexed and frustrated. As someone who lives close to the border, I've noticed that the impact of this election extends far beyond American politics. The prospect of a wall along the US-Mexico border has raised concerns about trade agreements, immigration policies, and even the environment.

One possible solution to this problem is to harness renewable energy sources like solar power. Imagine if we could build a "solar freaking wall" that generates electricity while preventing unauthorized access. It's an innovative idea, but it raises more questions than answers – especially regarding the cost, feasibility, and practicality of such a project.

As I conclude my rant about backspace and Google Chrome's new feature, I hope you've enjoyed this meandering journey through tech news and announcements. From VR technology to Half-Life 3 and solar-powered walls, there's always something exciting happening in the world of innovation.

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yeah it was really a a shouting match that I would that I would have loved to participate coffee drink coffee too calmly yes in a sedate manner um what were we talking about I literally don't wait these shirts oh right there was the bet with uh there was the bet with seus so there's a bet with Matt seus zigi on who wins the election I said Trump was going to win well it's it's more not Trump was going to win they should have to wear our shirts for way long I actually don't remember the exact terms I don't know I might have I might have not gone one toone odds actually I think I might have demanded like better Vegas odds on it than uh than just you know one month to one month and like it it is in reality it's not just a lonus versus seus bet no you you you got they made it a lonus Media Group versus nerd Fusion as a whole so the entire companies have to wear each other's shirts depending on who wins we have to pay for the other company to have enough shirts to wear which is like actually not insignificant given they we have like eight people so we would have to buy all of our shirts for them yeah oh wrecked yeah we're not going to they're so you sort of want to win and also don't yes okay well I yeah well I don't want to win at all but that's a whole other conversation um either if you want to win a whole tertiary conversation all right so we've got a lot lot of great topics for you guys today like Norway and Facebook crashing over news censorship they are going head to-head uh there's a new Mario game for iOS uh Sony launched their AMD Polaris powered PlayStation 4 Pro and VR adoption among steam users has crashed to a halt yep to a halt not surprised a Hal not surprised a halt not surprised a halt not surprised should be fine except that I tore down the streaming machine today sort of a little bit why uh well I I needed to okay okay so I actually have what I think is a really cool new segment and I know you guys are going to give me a bunch of crap about new segments all the time this is I like this a lot but I have a new segment that we're calling this is possibly my favorite segment that you've ever started really this what I am personally most interested in really yeah okay that's why I was like I really want you to do this okay so the new segment is called Haunted hardware and basically I I'm always telling stories especially on W show I'm always telling you guys stories about like just Bizarro land stuff that I have witnessed like you know um uh I mean what oh see okay it's hard to do this it's like it's hard to come up with something on the spot okay okay okay perfect example that isn't the one that I use in the video as an example is I had a machine once that would not install an operating system it would crash on the loading bar for Windows XP while it was like unpacking files or whatever every single time consistently 100% of the time I swapped the power supply installed Windows just fine I went okay bad power supply but I don't have a lot of money I'm a student I'm going to put that other power supply back in and just kind of see if it was a flip system runs perfectly absolutely perfectly stress test all day no problems whatsoever I could do anything with it in fact I left the power supply in there it ran for years after that years okay but I wasn't done yet okay so I put I I actually I was so curious I was like okay I'm going to burn another half an hour to an hour of my time because I want to know if this is reproducible so I put it back in and I tried to install Windows again same exact Hardware crashed and I'm just I'm sitting here going how can you have a system that is 100% stable other than that you cannot install Windows on it that's so random but the problem I would have liked I would have really enjoyed if you tried a different OS I you know what I just like I wasn't even aware of other os's at this time this is like when I was first getting into computers yeah yeah so anyway the but the point of that is that that story is just a story and you guys can you guys could not believe me or you could believe me or you could say gee I wish you had tried another thing well see but no that's that's why I'm excited for this the series cuz now I'm interested and I'm engaged I love that kind of stuff so now now oh I'm going to capture the whole thing on video so I you tell them what it is no no I'm not going to tell them what it is like that's a big all right oh I'm not going to tell them what it is no absolutely not but stay tuned for haunted Hardware it's very topical because it's like super topical very current events related and I document the whole thing I reproduce it i i i demonstrate like there's a point where I go from scratch with a lot of the camera rolling the entire time and what I'm thinking is we will upload that video in its entirety unlisted separately we'll link it in the description if you don't believe me here's the proof there you go so uh yeah it should be should be pretty excited I'm I'm I'm pretty stoked on that topical not tropical they are very different I mean I was reading an article about how we've I think we've eliminated a tenth of the Wilderness in the world in the last two decades about equivalent to half of the uh land area of Australia whoa yeah in the last in the last 20 years so uh mostly in the uh Central in central Africa and in the tropics so that would be a tropical topic or a topical Tropic but they are not the the same thing that cocking gun thing just looks like a really crappy co uh chalk outline of a gun no's going to know what I'm talking about it does kind of it's in the workshop I don't know where the cocking gun is oh I know what they're using it for also I look partially Angelic look at my hair if you ask your mom you look fully Angelic a thanks Mom yeah you know she would say it probably yep can't say I always agree you know sometimes he gets kind of naughty wow uh okay so moving on to our first topic of the day big topic Facebook backs down they back down y'all on censoring the Napalm girl photo after public outcry Facebook plans to restore the image and review its processes so if you weren't following this along Norway's largest newspaper published a front page open letter to Facebook CEO Mark Zer zerber zerber zuberg it's the like the body snatcher replacement for Mark Zuckerberg uh so they're lambasting the company's decision to censor an historic photo an historic no it's a historic or an historic photograph of the Vietnam War calling Zuckerberg to recognize and live up to his role as the world's most powerful editor which is a interesting way of stating that and kind of true and it is kind of true I mean if something doesn't exist on Facebook for a lot of people I know it basically does not exist at the same time you could argue that Google is even more powerful that way I don't know you know I haven't looked at it recently it would be interesting to weigh them yeah because Facebook and Google are both always publishing statistics of like how many people log in and look at their Facebook feed like once per day and I think Facebook's numbers are actually scarier because with Google they don't have quite as many services that you just like if you go to the google.com homepage they don't have suggested news stories there somehow still after all these years but like time you type something into the search bar that's a search that's true that's true but all you have to do is go to facebook.com and your feed which is um oh Cur curated by people you know so you inherently trust it more is also full of advertisements and is full of promoted stories and stuff like that that's a good point so I would make the argument that for the passive user not the active user cuz I personally look at Google a lot more than I look at Facebook Google and Google services a lot more than Facebook ones but for the passive user who's just like vegging like sitting at their computer kind of browsing something probably Facebook is more relative and is more relevant and if Facebook decides something doesn't exist I think for a lot of people they just basically would never see it where are they going to see it my Facebook is open a lot because I use it for like I have this group where like some friends from high school and I just all share music so I like play music through there almost constantly but I don't like go through my feed but I think you're probably right a huge portion of people would spend more overall time there um so anyway I could elaborate on the story but I realized I never posted on Facebook since we're talking about this tune into the WAN show yeah I can't I can't have it waterfall anymore uh from Twitter to Facebook cuz it just completely buries everything we post that way hate that which is pretty annoying because all basically all they're doing is wasting my time they're making me copy paste things inste I kind of want to like create our own little bot that will just like it's probably against terms of service yeah God damn it like probably definitely is but that would be so nice because if you created your own bot it wouldn't know CU it wouldn't be push uh it wouldn't be going through the API Services you could just have it literally like copy and pasted in to make it like a normal paste all right so going back into what happened the writer of the story was suspended from posting on Facebook for 24 hours he posted a historic Vietnam War image of a naked girl fleeing from her Napal bombed Vi Village they then published a story discussing and criticizing the deletion of the image and that post was also removed while containing the same image okay the notice from Facebook explains that any images with nudity in them will be removed so Espen Hansen editor-in-chief and CEO of Afton Poston I probably butchered that but I'm sorry accused Zuckerberg of abusing his power and then after that the prime minister of Norway decided to speak out about the situation she did this on Facebook but several of her posts on the topic were also deleted which is getting pretty ridiculous at that point to be fair this is probably just a bot going crazy I seriously doubt this is someone like manually intervention be like no screw you Norway like I don't know it's all Al a matter of and we have so there is an anonymous anonymous Facebook spokesperson who responded saying while we recognize that the photo is Iconic it's difficult to create a distinction between allowing a photograph of a nude child in one instance just going to say and not others above it said girl yes and if this was an underage girl yes it is so we try to find the right balance between enabling people to express themselves while maintaining a safe and respectful experience for our Global Community our Solutions won't always be perfect but we'll continue to try to improve our policy and they have back down and allowed the posting of this particular image which is interesting which is interesting but I also completely get where they're coming from that's what I'm saying we discussed this on W show last week without you but uh YouTube Google rude well you weren't there you did anything without me yes I did something without you I will make it up to you tonight so um so basically Google has cracked down on the not the posting of so this was why I publicly and strong L disagreed with some YouTuber statements that this is censorship which it is not if you can say whatever you want that is not censorship when someone refuses to pay you for saying whatever you want that's not censorship that's uh a completely different thing and and yeah cuz they're not taking people's videos down no or closing people's channels that's something I was getting really annoyed cuz there's so many videos that are like my channel is being closed I'm like no it's not you would be closing your channel yes they're just taking the anyway this ISR which a whole issue and it's and it's just a cold hard reality for if you're taking money from sponsors that you're going to have to behave in a way that sponsors approve of and it was going to happen eventually um but it's I want to one quick second on that I did someone posted a thing we can move to this after I was just going to kind of close this sure but basically what I didn't agree with was the way Google's doing it where they take this heavy-handed ban everything approach and then probably what they will do is will they will chip away like like kind it's kind of like they take like a big like a big brick of marble and they just kind of go okay so we're just like everything's covered and then they're just going to slowly chip away at the stuff that it turns out is actually okay until they end up with a statue of the devil stuff that no sponsor wants their wants their advertisements anywhere near um and and Facebook is doing it in much the same way but the reality of it is is do they really have a choice can Facebook manually go through and decide on every picture of a naked kid that's okay when they first Implement a policy and so I I actually like I kind of agree with everything that happened here except Facebook removing the posts complaining about the removal unless they also contain the pictur one I I'm wondering about the the the uh what was her was it prime minister I don't want to get the the position wrong uh yeah so it was uh nna Solberg prime minister of Norway I'm wondering what the details of those posts if it's just text complaining about the removal that's crazy that that was removed but if it was like I can't believe this was removed this is fine then I would be like okay I understand that anyways what I was going to say was someone was talking about how maybe a good solution for the uh monetization dropping that's going on YouTube yep would be different pools so Google could have like advertisers that allow their ads to go on more like crazy video or like traditionally not Advertiser friendly videos and like companies that want to have their ads on these crazy videos can get cheaper ad buys and maybe you get put in a lower monetization Group which is only open to those things did you you you said that okay all right I didn't watch the show I don't know it makes sense yeah it does make sense everyone's like let him keep going no don't tell them don't tell them no you started smiling weird and I was like I don't know what's happening and lonus never talks to Twitch chat that's what so I didn't know if you were trying to write to me or not because you don't normally type to Twitch chat I don't know um no I agree I agree completely I think that's how they should do it and I think that's how they will do it if anyone from Google watches the W show which I'm not convinced that they do but hey if it managed to make it off Wan show and back to you cuz I'm pretty sure you didn't watch The W show You' have known that I was the one who said that I mean someone else has probably come up with the idea independently as well I'm sure it's already the plan it's just a matter of it being difficult and complicated and they would have to I mean this is something a lot of people don't know a typical sponsor if you're lucky is negotiating their ad buys on a quarterly basis some of them will do it on like a yearly basis like we'll talk to a sponsor in like June and we'll be like hey so we'd love to work together we've got this cool idea for Q4 they'll be like yep all of our ad buys are pre-allocated at the beginning of the year and I'm kind of sitting here going and I hope none of our sponsors are watching this because especially those ones but what do you even do all day like seriously like what is your actual job if at one point at the beginning of the year you basically take all of the brain power out of deciding how to spend the advertising dollars that you have for the year probably manage those contracts to be understand though too that a lot of the time bigger Brands they they they sub contract this through agencies right well as far as I've been able to tell cuz I talked to someone about this I'm not going to say names or anything cuz i' I've asked people like why the hell do you actually do this cuz I hate dealing with sorry Danny middleman I hate dealing with the middlemen because you always end up just having pass through conversations yep and they're like okay we're confused because they told us one thing and now there's stuff going on and then like everyone has to kind of figure it out and you're just adding more steps to the process we had a deal fall through recently where we got on a call with the agency and the brand and it turned out that our so okay so so there were actually four layers here so there was us our MCN there was the brand agency and there was the brand four layers so our MCN did a great job the brand had a clear idea of what they wanted and honestly those things were pretty well aligned the agency basically passed along no information the call was a complete cluster hump and we found out shortly after the call it's like the guys last week there anyway so the Deal completely fell through so carry on but this stuff is and I don't want to deal with it anyway so I asked someone who was at one of the companies not one of the pr companies but one of the like companies that would hire the pr companies who was a PR person we call them a the brand right the brand there we go brand versus like agency okay so I talked to a PR person from the brand and as them why they don't do it and it's a shield yeah if their PR effort fails yes they can just be like their fault meet Shield not Brand's fault yep byebye and again this is going back to my personal theories it is a personal Shield as well what do you mean like if I worked at IBM let's that's what for for for everyone at the brand throughout the whole chain the brand itself and the people working at the brand it's it's all a shield it's a meat Shield yeah so all they have to say is okay well next year we will reallocate that entire chunk somewhere else that's we're going to reallocate it into social so basically someone gets paid an actual salary for an actual entire year to make a decision at the beginning of the year at one point in time to go okay we are going to allocate uh we are going to listen to some proposals and we are going to allocate budget here here here and here and then if it works then I will be submitting a great report about how well it worked and if it doesn't work I'm going to submit a report about how I fired those people oh man corporations man become a PR person yeah but you got to work your way up the food chain you got to get to the Brin yeah so first you'll be first you'll be like the meat deal with yeah you got to deal with being a meat Shield have to survive as a meat shield first yeah it's basically like Warfare but with words yes so in much the same way you can either survive as a meat shield and get promoted or you can just be born into it because like nepotism or whatever yeah yeah you have to defend against the internet's flamethrowers of compassion all right so uh moving on to our next topic uh oh yes Sony launches an AMD Polaris powered PlayStation 4 Pro so our original article here is from wccf Tech it's probably fine because this is like there's actually like a press release here are some specs like it's not speculation speculation wow I can't believe I've never made that joke before oh wow yeah um so basically there's a single chip custom processor featuring eight Jaguar cores though we do know that they are clocked higher so they're faster Jaguar cores but um okay we have a 1.84 teraflop AMD radon based Graphics engine so we know that this is not quite double the theoretical performance of what was already in the PlayStation 4 it's available with a 500 gig or a 1 tbte drive it's got 8 gigs of gddr5 memory um it has a Blu-ray Drive an ethernet port 10 gig land no I'm just kidding just gigabit uh it's approximately 2.1 kilograms starts at $400 US starts at $400 wait when is this for wait this is the new slim standard model gosh darn it this is the new this is the it's still eight gigs of gddr5 because that much is in the notes dang it where is the pro one a NCH had a good article on it I was looking at that uh okay so the pro one Higher clock speeds it is still 8 gigs of RAM that is said to run at higher Clocks 2 and is bolstered by new lossless memory compression technology from AMD uh the GPU component features over double the shading power of the PlayStation 4 and is based on the players okay so basically I got everything right the pro starts at 3.99 okay we got everything right even though we were looking at an article that I don't actually think was about it so go lus and Luke so okay Y in a nutshell what Sony is trying to do is they are trying to make their console all about 4K and they're still approaching it from sort of a um um a lackluster sort of angle yeah it's not grammatically correct but let's go with it lackluster angle so they're still approaching it in a way that is quite frankly just not going to work because as the college educated among you may know 4K is four times the pixel count of 1080p so right off the Hop if we're running games at anything less than 60 FPS native 1080p on the PlayStation 4 which we most assuredly are we will need four times the theoretical performance it doesn't quite work like that but but we will need more than two times the theoretical performance of the original PlayStation 4 in order to game it 4K smoothly at the same frame rates yeah because there's like a lot of other variables but there's a lot more to it than that um shaders are not the same as like you know your overall pixel fill rate is not the same as how your memory band with effect all of that like you you could you could double the functional units in the GPU but if you didn't increase the memory bandwidth at all then you you wouldn't get doubling and theoretical doubling does not equal practical real world doubling so there's a lot of things unless you had memory bandwidth that was already capable of the doubling even if you fully like double doubled without making any kind of architectural change I don't know that you would get double the performance we could test it though like we could we could go find a GPU that has exactly half of the cacor of the higher end one and see how it works out we might have other we might have to overclock and underclock but there'd probably be like memory bandwidth changes and stuff yeah I okay I don't know if it would be possible well let me tell you what we'll call up Nvidia or AMD we'll be like hey can you send us a custom GPU can you like seal off half of the are you there still um anyway so uh it's going to be the war again last time there was a PlayStation and Xbox launch and there is coming up there will be a Playstation Xbox launch there was all the image comparisons every single Tech YouTuber including us and probably this will happen again is going to create um computers that are like the same price or cheaper and better or the same performance and then everyone's going to be like but as computer parts keep coming out and these consoles are going to stay here for a little while in the future we'll have even better ones and then with the next GPU launch there will be even more videos of people going like oh man look you can even make faster computers for the same price as the consoles but then the consoles are going to go down in price and the yeah war is going to come do you want to redo 792p versus six-year-old graphics card I can that' be pretty funny yeah yeah that one's got almost a million views 926 th000 I kind of enjoyed that video it's uh there's again um like I just said for your like doubling thing there's some problems with it but it was a fun video that's true so I don't know I'm kind of excited for the war again just because I like I like what it brings in terms of like people actually building lowcost computers yeah and I get a kick out of uh I get a kick out of how much more and more PC like the consoles continue to become it's like now all of a sudden you can get PlayStations with different specs yes my friends PlayStation 4s with different Core specs and when you run games in your better Playstation 4 versus your peasant PlayStation 4 we're going to we're going to have like a whole new level there's going to be like there's going to be like like the the pcmr guys are going to be like there's like console peasants and then there's like console like vassals or something there's going to be like rankings and it's all going to be dramatic and it's going to be all over the YouTube comments and I'm going to sit back and I'm going to laugh um but but in a nutshell okay Tony needed to do this for a couple of reasons number one is it's all about for even Sony it's like you know the TV division's kind of sitting there going like how are you guys not helping us out here okay we're trying to sell some 4K TVs here right so they had to have 4K support whether it's for Blu-ray or whether it is for gaming 4K support had to come so they had to do something more powerful because the original PlayStation 4 was going to run games at like 12 frames per second twice a cinematic is 24 frames per second um also PlayStation VR there was speculation that was going to use some rendering tricks some frame interpolation tricks they were going to figure out how to get psvr running on the original PlayStation 4 and have it be a good experience we were skeptical looks like they didn't PlayStation 4 Pro or is that what they're calling it PlayStation 4 Pro yeah PS4 Pro is going to be the way to experience psvr if you care it all about a good experience what how does it make you professional if you were a Pro Gamer you probably wouldn't game on a like peasant station 4 yeah if you're a Pro Gamer you I bet they're going to call it peasant station 4 someone will call it peasant station 4 a PlayStation 4 Pro owner is going to start that you might have just started that yourself I'm not sure yeah people going to start having pictures of the original PlayStation 4 or peasant station 4 and have like fake dirt on it yeah oh man feel like it's the peasant station 4 oh my this this is going to be confusing actually one of the really good things about consoles for a long time was the like easy gifting idea Plug and Play the mom could just go to the store and be like my son wants the Xbox and then or the PlayStation yeah they'd be like here's the newest one here is one game the only game that matters right now y your son will or daughter will have to wait two years for more interesting more games yeah and that's and it was fine and now it's going to be and we liked it that way do you want the 500 gig model do you want the 1 TB model do you want the pro model do you want the non is your son not a professional is your daughter going to going to grow up to pump gas all her life I mean that's okay but you're not going to want the professional you're going to want this one and part of the problem is that this might actually introduce like competitive advantages pleb station 4 is another name for that okay yeah that'll probably be used okay uh you should maybe straw pull a few names that you see in there and see who poop station poop station sounds like a different thing it does it just literally sounds like a toilet yeah um apparently does not support 4K Blu-ray I did not know that I'd imagine that'll come with a firm update there's no way that it doesn't support 4K Blu-ray at some point that's ridiculous uh anyways what I was going to say was it might actually introduce a competitive Advantage because if you're getting significantly more frame rate like maybe maybe in older games that aren't meant to run or aren't designed to run at higher resolution they might run faster I was wrong I did not follow the PlayStation 4 Pro news because I don't care um but no the absence of a 4K Blu-ray player is due to a lack of consumer demand according to PlayStation boss Andrew House support cannot be patched in Via firmware update at a later date either he confirmed okay oh yeah lack of consumer demand the very first question on amazon.com when you scroll down on the pre-order page with over two times the we can switch to my screen if you'd like um with over two times the upvotes of any other question only at 42 but this is the your uh it's covered up by the I'll scroll it's okay I got it might want to give it the old ah fancy uh oh I'm going to do this it's only 42 votes as you can see there but it's like it's still up there and this is the pre-order page on Amazon way before you can buy it so I'm not suspecting that much and there's 206 answers which is insane compared to like the one or six or zero answers on the other questions I like the top answer and one of the most mindboggling decisions in console history no it cannot play Ultra HD Blu-rays so yeah lack of consumer demand may be an inaccurate statement what I'm going to say it may not also be complet completely like okay I personally own a movie watching setup that has a 65 in TV literally a meter from my face okay I am about as Target a market as 4K Blu-ray could possibly have I could not possibly care less really I I do like honestly I'll tell I have bought DVDs like even recently like before I got that set up and now I'm really disappointed I own DVDs but streaming 4K does not look better than 1080p Blu-ray and 1080p Blu-ray looks great even at that 4K Blu Ray cuz streaming 4K is not the same oh no it's not it's not the same on like a few levels which is which is a whole a whole other way to attack Sony's argument for going pretty blunt here and say that I don't think you can comment if you haven't okay okay fine so I'll tell you what I will obtain a 4K Blu-ray at some point and we will revisit this conversation that could be a cool video isth it actually that's probably a pretty good video I should probably do that you should probably and I'll be like for you no it's a meter from your face hell yeah um okay but like what was I going to say I think that consumer demand would be more existent if this thing did support it yeah because I don't think that many people are going to want to go buy a player for 4K Blu-ray but if their PlayStation already supported it and they go buy a couple discs maybe especially if they were cheap like especially by the time and maybe that's part of the problem maybe they don't feel like supporting it because they're not going to get $29.99 for a Blu-ray disc anymore uh so maybe the royalties just aren't even like I I don't know what the rationale internally at Sony is exactly but basically they've decided it's not worth it yeah um but like personally especially for like five bucks like in the $7 bin Maybe not tomorrow cuz 4K Blu-ray is going to be expensive for a bit but in the $7 bin in a few years I would rather own it than stream it in a lot of cases yep me too I don't buy everything a lot of stuff I stream certain content though especially like I'm buying House of Cards even though I have a 4K Netflix subcription hackers uh uh Harry Potter Lord of the Rings secret life of Walter midi The Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus these are all things that I'd like to have on yep on a physical media that I own yep I mean I don't keep them on physical media because I made that video yeah cuz it's stupid I agree with that but the idea is that you you have it cuz Netflix is really volatile without web compression y I have it forever y because I paid for it and these streaming services are volatile I don't think Netflix is going to go away that's not what I mean by volatile but the content that's on there can change and does CH yeah and it's designed that way like it's supposed to be like that they're not going to license everything cuz that costs money and I love it and it's fine and people who watch Netflix are going to like watch Netflix regularly they want to be refreshing it so that's fine yeah it also creates that urgency like when you see something like it's very smart actually um what was I oh right I was going to add this to the um so is 4K Blu-ray worth it no but I like it so there that's already the whole video all 6,782 of you can save yourselves the effort but for everyone else hopefully that'll be video I still I still kind of want like it's totally not worth it it goes completely against the algorithm stuff that YouTube is trying to use right now but I would still love to make that channel that we talked about back at the old office was it I don't know if you remember this but um I talked about it with a OnePlus review I think it was the OnePlus One that I was talking about it for where I would be like it's just like super short tech reviews so like 30 second revieww so yeah like terrible company good phone problems with software stuff look it up on the forums but it's cheap but it's cheap see you next time and like you could review graphics cards like that cuz you could just take a price performance graph be like it's Lots here see you next time I hate you what seriously though so many things could be done that way everyone's suggesting we do Tech quickie reviews Tech quickie review Tech quickie could start doing product reviews we even have a place to put it potentially that's oh it's so short though it's shorter than Tech quickies cuz Tech quickies aren't really like the fastest possible well they used to be fast as possible now they're like as as much history and context as possible yeah yeah they're not that short no yeah I don't know twitch chat's freaking out they wanted on they want it on Tech Wiki it's so short cuz these would be like patent it 30 second these would be like 30 second videos yeah I don't know we need to trademark the the name react react oh Lord maybe we could trademark the name 30 second videos and then if anyone makes a video that's 30 seconds long we can just crush them bow um turbotech that's not a bad name for turbo tech h whoa slow down there turbo I I don't know twitch chat's like flipping out they love this I'm just I'm just soaking in the twitch chat experience right now but yeah do you remember that conversation we talked about it with the OnePlus I I actually do vaguely remember it but I had completely forgotten I had like a script for the OnePlus One done at that point in time I I I don't remember where it ended up going but um it was like you can do it for so many things oh man any modern motherboard here's all the ports it has enjoy yeah by the way if you want to put your old CPU on it get crapped off yeah CPUs more Co they're slightly faster it consumes less power enjoy you could just and then like you could just copy paste videos so like don't don't say the product name in the video and then if like if the content of the review would be the same you just put a different title on it and re-upload it so like every CPU Cooler that comes out have this heat pipes check aluminum fins check flat bottom surface check comes with a fan check performance pretty good and then okay that that could be the difference for every video there just be performance pretty good and there's a graph while you say performance pretty good and it just slots it wherever it goes which is going to be like exactly where the ones in the same form factor go and then you're done not the worst idea I've ever heard I mean it okay we're going to get it's so far away from like Advertiser friendly and it's completely the opposite of what YouTube wants yeah we're going to get killed on watch time oh destroyed I think we're going to get killed on like comments cuz like we're going to have to like that's the thing is we're going to have to get down and dirty with like fan Bo arguments like if we're going to try and summarize an AMD or an Nvidia graphics card we're going to have to be like runs hot is loud worst drivers I love that you didn't say what brand there no that's because it switches Generation by generation it does but no but Okay the reason why I said that is cu the the copy paste video thing that I was talking about CU you could just use that for like a bunch of different cards I like it way too much I just it it does have a it has a lot of problems and the thing is people don't even want that people want words yep even if they're pretty close to unnecessary they want words and sometimes the words are about pacing and they're about absorbing what you're looking at and adding impact to a certain part of the video or like specifically what you're saying or whatever else like I have intentionally over the years on lineus Tech tips and on Tech quickie increase the length of the videos to add more depth and more analysis and more we used to do history I had a benchmark for text length for videos before yep and I 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them right okay so my video from the noct booth was really cool because basically it was an explanation for why noctua appears to have been completely sitting on their ass for the last 3 years they haven't released the successor to the NHD 15 which took forever after the NHD 14 and was just bigger anyway they haven't released a successor to it in years and the answer is that they were like well we tried all these things and and they showed a lot of stuff they tried a lot of things and they tried a lot of stuff that other companies have released products claiming that it's like way better but actually when you actually put it on a CPU it doesn't make a difference and it's like oh I can't figure out why why you're not seeing a difference in our lab we see a difference oh don't come into our lab um nox was just like yeah we tried all that crap it doesn't work sorry or they'd be like an astronomical amount more money to make and made like2 of a difference yeah they made an all copper one for example they're like yeah yeah copper is more conductive that's cool yeah that was really interesting actually it's like super balls heavy and super duper balls expensive it's like why don't we just make about of silver at that point I mean do you want a $900 heat sink gold cuz we could make it for you would probably be terrible it would droop oh yeah ter gold would be awful and it's as conductive as silver anyway yeah I've heard about that yep um okay all right let's stop beating around the bush Apple's iPhone 7 wait wait wait wait I got it hold up iPhone 7 really expensive no headphone jack you can use an adapter it's $40 and really big thanks for watching this video was sponsored by Dollar Shave Club if you hate wasting time check out their razors they ship directly to your door also Squarespace lets you build a website that's beautiful in like a very short period of time for only crap I'm bad at this I am just inherently a verbose person I think that's why I needed a podcast that was like an hour long I can headliner the out of this channel man all right so let's screen share with me the verg's article The 11 most important thing from Apple's iPhone 7 event you didn't even get all 11 of them you suck all of mind you I think they have the Apple Watch 2 as one of the most important things so I really don't think that uh I'm going to agree with Y yeah no no sorry Verge we're done we're done here ni um although so what I don't know yet I can't believe they showed off a Pokémon go app for the Apple watch that took up like a significant amount of time um in the keynote um what I don't know about the Apple watch is whether the screen is always on I haven't actually seen that in anyone's summary and I haven't finished watching the event yet I haven't watched that part uh so maybe twitch chat can let me know supposedly it is twice as bright which is wonderful but I never asked for that what I asked for was to be able to tell the freaking time was the problem at all no it wasn't the problem was that it isn't on and a lot of people have criticized me over this they've been look lest you don't get it my Apple watch lasts all day I'm like good for you not the point not the point I want to be able to tell what time it is when I'm sitting having an awkward conversation and I'm trying to figure out when I need to dismiss myself from this so that I can be somewhere on time and that doesn't work when I have to go like this I mean that should be like a dance do the watch do the watch do this specific gesture if you want to know the time do the watch do the watch that's going to be gift to hell oh I know right um there's nothing we can do about that okay what if we do them as supplementary reviews so for every take this conversation offline let's Okay Apple iPhone 7 same display as the 6s they say it's 25% brighter cool same resolution which I don't personally care about I'd just as soon save the battery life and have a lower resolution display as long as I can't tell that it's lower resolution which quite frankly I cannot the home button now has no physical click this is a big one for me this is something that if the phone didn't have other crippling problems with it could convince me that an iPhone is a more worthwhile purchase now than it was yesterday uh because the physical click is breakable because it's breakable and because it does break because it breaks frequently if it didn't really break then it would be fine but I've heard so many people that have to replace buttons including you right Y and there are other issues like for a while Apple wasn't allowing people to retain Touch ID if they were place the button themselves which is ridiculous I think they've addressed that now but the point is now it's haptic feedback so it feels like a click but it's not and if it works anywhere near as well as the MacBook 2015 it'll be awesome and I will love it okay yeah their haptic feedback engine is like very good very good okay it's water resistant they're calling it out as IP67 and they have been scandals so the S7 active um you know was found with I think it was two samples the consumer reports or something like Anyway was found to not necessarily be all that water resistant uh if Apple's claiming it I what I will say is it's probably pretty darn good and I talked about this and this is going to be really embarrassing because I did a review of the odsy sign um headphones a lightning headphone and it got bumped because of packs so the release to YouTube is is a twoe window instead of a onee window and I speculate about the new iPhone 7 if that's what they're going to call it and then I speculate that if the objective was to increase water resistance like if they're going to give me some meaningful benefit out of taking away my headphone jack then that will probably be it because I could see apple now they've eliminated the home button which is very difficult to Ingress protect they have eliminated the headphone jack which is difficult to Ingress protect so if the objective here was not only to you know make the phone slightly Slimmer which I don't care about but if it was to give me a meaningful upgrade in some other way I would be a lot more receptive to it and it looks like that is indeed what they did although that video will still be kind of embarrassing so Apple's Ear Pod will now collect collect connect through the lightning connector Port there are no headphone there is no headphone jack on the thing that I wanted to add about your ingress protection thing this phone is I don't remember what it is IP67 if i7 I don't believe that I've taken it out of spec um it has problems there you go that are very probably because of water on the other hand the Galaxy S7 has been the best performing water resistant device that I've yet seen surviving I think we went 20 ft down that's int before it died or 20 or 30t down in salt water before it managed to die so this audio jack basically horrible Yeah so basically the point is there's a lot of variability and if Apple has been quietly working on improving the water resistance of their devices over time which we know yeah and they're basic they've basically determined okay well for us to put IP67 on something we need to eliminate these ports and they were just kind of waiting for the right moment to do it because it's not like water resistant competitors haven't been out for quite a while now maybe they kind of went okay you know you have to be what is it you have to have the courage to move forward or with a thing that no something like that but okay my counter argument to that a little bit I said I was going to Devil's Advocate you but not yet um why don't just have two go dually USB type C's yeah I mean that's an interesting you can have one that like this one charges faster by the way or something you can plug it into either but like this one will charge your phone faster apple is I mean I think they're philosophically opposed to that like they've never put yeah they've never put an extra port on anything if they didn't have to I mean they even have a laptop computer that only has one port and a headphone jack though oh wck oh man I mean are we going to see Apple's laptop like have they been waiting to refresh their laptops so they can put lightning connectors on them like interesting there's a thought um so I mean the summary is and I actually do a better job of this in my odsy sign review and I'll talk about it some more when I review the iPhone 7 which I undoubtedly will um but the summary is it's a mixed bag you get a little bit of extra space inside the device that you can use for whatever it is that you determine you need to use it for you lose compatibility with 99.999% of headphones on the planet uh without a goofy adapter that people will undoubtedly lose like I was actually um uh so I have another device here in the studio the uh Droid Z force uh from Lenovo the Moto Droid Z force from like yeah Lenovo acquired them I think they're branding at Lenovo anyway the point is it only has a USB type-c connector it does not have a headphone jack and I've used the adapter and it cleverly they include this little rubber thing so that you can stick it to your headphones so it doesn't like come off and get lost um I think people are ultimately going to be salty about it I'm salty like eight of those cables I would prefer to just be able to plug in natively um I don't personally find that upgraded amps and DXs make a huge difference for me with the kind of source material that I use and that quite if we're all being honest with ourselves none of you use either um so I never wanted this but at the end of the day oh I think it's this cable um did that change your mic did you fully unplug it oh maybe it's worth checking oh for crying out loud but at the end of the day people are going to accept it no it's still fine and uh yeah I think we're all going to move on I mean apple is pushing their wireless ear pods airpods is that what they're calling them they look so ridiculous yeah they have new uh they have new uh wireless Beats the problem for me is that this introduces yet another charge thing in my life that I have to charge every day that's the very first thing I thought of when I saw that was like wow I don't want to charge my headphones Now intel showed off a couple of years ago at CES they showed off a wireless charging Bowl the concept for which is awesome okay that I would be okay with wireless crap if all I had to do at the end of the day go to bed is like shed your watch drop your earphones in drop your phone in I get up in the morning and everything is wirelessly charged it slow charges so my battery doesn't heat up and I work like it awes and it's amazing that would be great and maybe that's the future we're heading towards and maybe you have to take these steps in order to get enough Mass Appeal for these wireless devices that you can get the economies of scale that are associated with shrinking the batteries and shrinking the electronics and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah maybe we're heading towards that but it is a very frustrating stepping stone and I personally would still use my iPhone 6s although I'm saying this without having used the seven they say the camera is amazing I probably will still use my iPhone 6s if I need to use an iOS device there that's my two cents I'm not going to buy a full gamut of new headphone things cuz I use full headphones and earbuds with my phone so okay that's not going to happen but I want I wanted again I'm going to need a million of them and like they're probably not cheap uh I don't remember how much they cost but I'm sure we will see cheaper ones after the fact someone was say someone said 40 bucks in the twitch chat but I don't think that's right I've I think 40 bucks wasn't that for the Balon USBC to dual USBC that I'm not sure have you seen that so Belin has an adapter already or not USBC derp lightning um that just splits it but it's like on a short little cable and then it's a huge box so that you'd be able to plug in a headphone a microphone thing there you go oh Lordy but it also doesn't break to 3.5 and that's $40 yeah and that well that's to address the other issue I mean I haven't even talked about that now you can't charge your phone and use headphones at the same time unless you're using wireless headphones that's a big problem for me which is a huge problem for any mobile gamer I mean Apple's keynote blah blah blah we are the biggest Mobile gaming platform blah blah blah blah you can only game for a few hours on an iPhone before it runs out of battery ha good luck listening to your headphones so you don't have have to be that jerk on the bus that's got Clash of Clans well I said freaking by the way that sort of slipped out kind of funny I don't swear on this show kids at home don't repeat what you heard here um I mean you know Clash of Clans on the bus making everyone around you mad yeah like that's super ridiculous and like obviously you can just mute it or whatever but that's lame yeah that's stupid why would you degrade The Experience no a new device should never degrade the experience what I'm expecting is that I kind of think someone's going to come out with a a case that has extra ports built in I'm not kidding so you're just going to have to buy a bigger phone essentially our new device is magical it's revolutionary it's three times as big with all the stupid adapters that you have bolted onto it but like having it slim Lin in a case as Slim as it can get um and just making your phone taller essentially is probably the most elegant solution that they're going to be able to do so the case will plug into the bottom of your phone it's like saying the most elegant way to put a 2 two on a hippo like there well there is a most elegant way to put a two two on a hippo I'm sure there is but who cares yeah but I would be more interested in this though I would rather use the phone if it got to a split out box in an external case thing and that went into like dual USB or why do I keep saying USB dual lightning and like and a 3.5 it's technically USB so that would be Wicked dual lightning at a 3.5 I would be very happy so there's a new camera CER larger aperture Optical image stabilization the iPhone 7 actually gets an additional telephoto lens on the back that works like a built-in Zoom feature uh longer battery life like apparently very substantially they haven't specified the capacity yet I guess we'll just have to wait for the iFix and tear down I don't know why they're so like about all this stuff we're going to figure it out eventually anyway the front-facing camera is now 7 megapixels and includes Auto Image stabilization which is not the same as Optical image stabilization so we'll find exactly what that means and they have finally done away with the 16 gig capacity and they have a glossy jet black that will look great in photos and will validate once and for all why Luke and I have to spend so much time being angry at manufacturers for making glossy black things and it will be because the iPhone 7 will sell better in that color than anything else because Apple made it more exclusive by making it only available in the higher capacities so people are going to want to show off that they have a ball in one they're going to get a glossy jet black one and we are going to have to continue to be mad that our wireless routers are glossy black plastic and look stupid after 4 seconds because you had the audacity to plug a cable into them or just let dust sit on them that too glossy things just look terrible unless you literally just cleaned it so we asked on Twitter um if people wanted to suggest what we should talk about on Wow about the iPhone 7 I completely forgot to look at this but I'm pretty sure that we talked about most of them um yeah I one of the things that I really don't like about the wireless ear pods is that they look like earrings have you seen that um yeah yeah I saw them I think they look ridiculous they do yeah like most wireless headphones they just wrap around they're going to turn into a status symbol they're going to be like the original white ear pods or no they weren't called earpods whatever I don't care white ear white earphones H I don't know man we'll see we will see but I don't some celebrity is going to wear them yeah yeah but then you look at like Bluetooth things yeah those always kind of made you look sort of like a douche yeah they make you look like a douche and and these will make you look like a douche unless you're like cool and then they will make you look like a douch whatever oh man uh most people really just asked for the headphone jack removal controversy so yeah yeah that was fairly obvious um Robert Preston says I'm an easy man to make happy I want a phone that makes calls and doesn't explode yep I like that well you have to shop fairly carefully these days not exploding is an exclusive feature all right so yeah they talk about waterproof talk about okay so our summary notes were fine excellent good I'm happy with the waterproof improvements it's expensive by the way I've been a big I've been a I've been a big wow I've been a bigon no I just it got caught in my nasal because I'm sick right now all right The eyew Watch 2 is here hooray you're going to review it I probably will I'll probably end up just saying I think it's stupid again starts at three excuse me $370 has GPS boasts a brighter display so basically they addressed everything that I don't care about it's like more waterproof now I don't know how many people's Apple watches are dying in the water MSRP for a GTX 1070 yeah not that you can buy them get better video card than probably have if you didn't buy an Apple Watch I have a rant on that coming uh there's a new Mario game for iOS the original article here is from Kotaku coming on Android later so there you go Mario is on a phone which is exciting because if you wanted to play Mario on your phone then that will excite you I mean it'll be nice to have better quality Platformers on mobile so that's cool y it'll offer three distinct modes so there's challenge courses to complete there's a second mode which is challenging play data of other people's courses and then you can create your own Mushroom Kingdom using coins collected by playing the first two modes one thing that drives me insane about this where's the actual topic uh it'll be free to download with a set purchase price what what does that even mean and that's not like a weird quote that Colton did that's exactly the quote in quotations that's what the guy said so like I don't know know cuz I read I I read it'll be free to download but with a set purchase price and was like Wow Colton way to go clicked through and was like oh actually yes good job Colton more literally this time what does that even mean okay you claimed to see this coming I did not hit me hit me VR adoption among steam users has crashed to a halt original article here is from Venture beat uh VR is an extremely difficult thing to properly explain the experience and feeling of without having the person actually do it apparently it means uh it is not free you pay there are no microtransactions you can download it for free but you have to pay to unlock it that's super dumb yeah so there you go okay sure that's super dumb yeah it was apparently a bad translation okay okay that makes sense um okay so yes it's extremely it's it's hard to translate because it's an experience MH it's like some it's like telling someone that um a roller coaster was cool who's never been on a roller coaster or anything that moves quickly or inflicted GeForce on them at all before mhm yeah you go around the corner and it like pulls your body and stuff and the person's like what like it doesn't it doesn't translate very well every single person I've described VR2 no matter how excited and how intricate I made the description once they try it completely different conversations they're pretty dead pan and like yeah sure whatever dude then they try it they're like whoa I want one like every single time so here is sort of where I didn't see this coming cuz I agree with everything you just said okay but what I thought was that people would do that people would show their friends and they'd be like whoa I want one so what you're saying is that the people who play VR games don't have friends well there's a combination of things um that's possibly true I mean I play VR I don't have friends I'm that's possibly true to a certain degree one thing that I was pushing for quite a while and you probably know this is that I wanted Best Buys and stuff like brick and mortar stores setting up yeah but not really yet yeah it takes time and it's not really that great yet and I've heard of a couple small brick and mortar stores having them with the rift which is not the experience that I want people trying right and the most popular VR experience right now is with the damn gear VR o the gear VR is awful exactly so people are getting this gear VR for free throwing it on and then going why the heck censoring myself a little bit there would I ever spend all that money $1,000 for like that but better because it isn't that but better it's not that at all completely different categories of things right but they're called falling at the same thing and Samsung is oh oh yeah and their their radio advertisements are like oh yeah today I was running around with dinosaurs and then I was like fighting zombies and stuff and so they try to make it the same amount of exciting and they describe it in the exact same way that people are describing the high-end headsets then people are trying the gear vrs and then going why the hell would I ever buy that nicer one so people are not exposed to it in a direct Hands-On way right people are exposed to shitty versions of it in a direct Hands-On way mhm and the community that has them is very small and then they're really expensive right and the well-informed community also knows that these are the first version there's probably follow-up versions coming relatively quickly that will be considerably better and that's going to be happening for a while y okay so like it's it's this huge I totally saw this coming uh that's why that's a big reason why I was worried about even making the rift review so late is because I knew the hype train was already crashing so hard all right so basically the numbers are here uh according to a survey of customers that use steam conducted by Valve um the number of new HTC VI owners on Steam only grew by 3% in July and remained flat in August Oculus saw similar results of 3% in July and .1% in August yep July and August are important because they are the first first months where both HTC and Oculus are shipping orders when they receive them wow that's tough eh yeah all right um let me just see if we've got anything else that's really interesting here I would be interested in seeing some other statistics on that steam thing like the percentage of computers that can actually perform properly with those VR headsets how many of those people are buying headsets right because a huge amount of the steam Hardware survey is like not even necessarily dedicated GPU laptops y that's true and like your mom's HP that was 300 bucks and stuff like that so a lot of these things VR headsets aren't even remotely in the Horizon for them and it doesn't apply so the percentage sounds lower than it probably should so this made me mad and then I got over it Google Chrome to disallow backspace as the back button see I'm going to press backspace and it's not going to do anything mind you this is the first page I loaded in this tab so it probably wouldn't have done anything anyway but I'll demonstrate again I'm pressing see oh look at that alt left press alt left Arrow to go back press alt left all right all right Chrome there you go so the idea is to keep people from losing all their work by accidentally trying to backspace something and then losing a web form which I personally don't really have a lot of difficulty with apparently this is really old and this is old not not this VR thing oh Chrome well whatever I know no they've been rolling it out slowly okay it hit me this week okay and I hadn't heard about it and it made me mad you use that that's all I use backspace to go yeah yeah I don't all the time I don't well I just do it with my mouse whatever which will still work I do it with both get wrecked sometimes I touch the little back button on the touch screen yeah that's right whoa yeah you're a you're like I'm like a rebel triangle yeah um what no I kind of I'll sure all right no I'll I'll I'll do it I'll I'll bite I'll bite on this one okay Turing phone Cadenza will apparently feature dual Snapdragon 830s with a 60 megapixel quad rear camera triplet lens why would you have quad rear cameras so IMAX 6K is the resolution they're calling that dual front cameras 20 megapixels 12 gigs of RAM one tab of storage swordfish OS with deep learning AI what is this a a 5.8 inch 1440 by 2560 display um so Turing robotics has revealed plans for the future of the Turing phone uh should be a Leading Edge program to realize the next generation of mobile devices um 1 gbit per second 60 GHz y gig support I mean what are they planning saying the phone will be released sometime in 2017 quad nano SIM support I mean this B basically just sounds like someone going on PC parts picker and just like picking all the most expensive stuff that totally won't work together and just putting it in a cart graphine oxide composite body workor with liquid metal 2.0 structural frame it's only going to have a 2 2400 milliamp oh 2400 milliamp graphine super capacitor battery so like basically like instant charging and a 16600 Milah lithium hyrogen hydrogen fuel cell and it's really funny because our next topic is halflife 3 confirmed which is almost like that phone is like halflife 3 confirmed why is this in here what is this we're almost at the back to the future date we're even closer to the Star Wars Tipping Point the what on May 13th The Phantom Menace will have come out closer to Return of the Jedi than to the present it's weird how I'm consistently surprised by the passage of time when it's literally the most predictable thing in the universe you know a long time ago should have plus four more decades added into the re-releases what oh hold on a second halflife halflife episode 2 it's been that many days September 10th 2016 so that's the oh I see okay wow has it really was it yeah it was 10 years has it really been 10 years since halflife episode 2 holy crap we're old wow speaking of VR things cuz someone lit the fire um Oculus touch controller price was leaked on media Mark for €200 oh cool which is probably going to be $200 as well because because H take that Europeans you're not an American so you get wrecked by pricing apparently sorry we're not Americans either so before anyone forgets that point um we just like talking about Trump because it's funny and it really impacts us a lot because we live really close and we're really small population yeah I mean what if he makes us pay for a wall that is like a really long border it is all right so thank you for tuning in to the W show we will see you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel we could employ all the oil riggers that way could be good what if you made the wall out of solar panels and then it became a profit Venture we could export the power to the states so you're saying solar freaking walls yeah solar freaking walls solar freaking walls you're not allowed on this show would the top of the wall be a road like if you travel along the border on the wall Road Road Wall okayare you ready yeah okay we've been through this before yes you don't get to wear a nerd Fusion shirt I'm sorry unless Hillary wins the election right we've been through this before yeah I'm pretty sure we've been through this on stream before so you guys bore witness to this we wear nerd Fusion shirts if Hillary wins and they wear lonus techtip shirts see I am in the uniform you see how my shirt matches this lower third matches this mug wait what apparently we have mugs now oh yeah why which I'm totally gonna drink from yeah which I definitely always enjoy a hot beverage on the W shelf I don't only drink ice water we should just now that they know that randomly throughout the show we have to just be like yes well you know I just I just I really need coffee to nail this point home don't even take a break to swallow just like so I think when that Norway newspaper put that thing in their paper and then challenge Zuckerberg it was really a pretty intense yeah it was really a a shouting match that I would that I would have loved to participate coffee drink coffee too calmly yes in a sedate manner um what were we talking about I literally don't wait these shirts oh right there was the bet with uh there was the bet with seus so there's a bet with Matt seus zigi on who wins the election I said Trump was going to win well it's it's more not Trump was going to win they should have to wear our shirts for way long I actually don't remember the exact terms I don't know I might have I might have not gone one toone odds actually I think I might have demanded like better Vegas odds on it than uh than just you know one month to one month and like it it is in reality it's not just a lonus versus seus bet no you you you got they made it a lonus Media Group versus nerd Fusion as a whole so the entire companies have to wear each other's shirts depending on who wins we have to pay for the other company to have enough shirts to wear which is like actually not insignificant given they we have like eight people so we would have to buy all of our shirts for them yeah oh wrecked yeah we're not going to they're so you sort of want to win and also don't yes okay well I yeah well I don't want to win at all but that's a whole other conversation um either if you want to win a whole tertiary conversation all right so we've got a lot lot of great topics for you guys today like Norway and Facebook crashing over news censorship they are going head to-head uh there's a new Mario game for iOS uh Sony launched their AMD Polaris powered PlayStation 4 Pro and VR adoption among steam users has crashed to a halt yep to a halt not surprised a Hal not surprised a halt not surprised a halt not surprised should be fine except that I tore down the streaming machine today sort of a little bit why uh well I I needed to okay okay so I actually have what I think is a really cool new segment and I know you guys are going to give me a bunch of crap about new segments all the time this is I like this a lot but I have a new segment that we're calling this is possibly my favorite segment that you've ever started really this what I am personally most interested in really yeah okay that's why I was like I really want you to do this okay so the new segment is called Haunted hardware and basically I I'm always telling stories especially on W show I'm always telling you guys stories about like just Bizarro land stuff that I have witnessed like you know um uh I mean what oh see okay it's hard to do this it's like it's hard to come up with something on the spot okay okay okay perfect example that isn't the one that I use in the video as an example is I had a machine once that would not install an operating system it would crash on the loading bar for Windows XP while it was like unpacking files or whatever every single time consistently 100% of the time I swapped the power supply installed Windows just fine I went okay bad power supply but I don't have a lot of money I'm a student I'm going to put that other power supply back in and just kind of see if it was a flip system runs perfectly absolutely perfectly stress test all day no problems whatsoever I could do anything with it in fact I left the power supply in there it ran for years after that years okay but I wasn't done yet okay so I put I I actually I was so curious I was like okay I'm going to burn another half an hour to an hour of my time because I want to know if this is reproducible so I put it back in and I tried to install Windows again same exact Hardware crashed and I'm just I'm sitting here going how can you have a system that is 100% stable other than that you cannot install Windows on it that's so random but the problem I would have liked I would have really enjoyed if you tried a different OS I you know what I just like I wasn't even aware of other os's at this time this is like when I was first getting into computers yeah yeah so anyway the but the point of that is that that story is just a story and you guys can you guys could not believe me or you could believe me or you could say gee I wish you had tried another thing well see but no that's that's why I'm excited for this the series cuz now I'm interested and I'm engaged I love that kind of stuff so now now oh I'm going to capture the whole thing on video so I you tell them what it is no no I'm not going to tell them what it is like that's a big all right oh I'm not going to tell them what it is no absolutely not but stay tuned for haunted Hardware it's very topical because it's like super topical very current events related and I document the whole thing I reproduce it i i i demonstrate like there's a point where I go from scratch with a lot of the camera rolling the entire time and what I'm thinking is we will upload that video in its entirety unlisted separately we'll link it in the description if you don't believe me here's the proof there you go so uh yeah it should be should be pretty excited I'm I'm I'm pretty stoked on that topical not tropical they are very different I mean I was reading an article about how we've I think we've eliminated a tenth of the Wilderness in the world in the last two decades about equivalent to half of the uh land area of Australia whoa yeah in the last in the last 20 years so uh mostly in the uh Central in central Africa and in the tropics so that would be a tropical topic or a topical Tropic but they are not the the same thing that cocking gun thing just looks like a really crappy co uh chalk outline of a gun no's going to know what I'm talking about it does kind of it's in the workshop I don't know where the cocking gun is oh I know what they're using it for also I look partially Angelic look at my hair if you ask your mom you look fully Angelic a thanks Mom yeah you know she would say it probably yep can't say I always agree you know sometimes he gets kind of naughty wow uh okay so moving on to our first topic of the day big topic Facebook backs down they back down y'all on censoring the Napalm girl photo after public outcry Facebook plans to restore the image and review its processes so if you weren't following this along Norway's largest newspaper published a front page open letter to Facebook CEO Mark Zer zerber zerber zuberg it's the like the body snatcher replacement for Mark Zuckerberg uh so they're lambasting the company's decision to censor an historic photo an historic no it's a historic or an historic photograph of the Vietnam War calling Zuckerberg to recognize and live up to his role as the world's most powerful editor which is a interesting way of stating that and kind of true and it is kind of true I mean if something doesn't exist on Facebook for a lot of people I know it basically does not exist at the same time you could argue that Google is even more powerful that way I don't know you know I haven't looked at it recently it would be interesting to weigh them yeah because Facebook and Google are both always publishing statistics of like how many people log in and look at their Facebook feed like once per day and I think Facebook's numbers are actually scarier because with Google they don't have quite as many services that you just like if you go to the google.com homepage they don't have suggested news stories there somehow still after all these years but like time you type something into the search bar that's a search that's true that's true but all you have to do is go to facebook.com and your feed which is um oh Cur curated by people you know so you inherently trust it more is also full of advertisements and is full of promoted stories and stuff like that that's a good point so I would make the argument that for the passive user not the active user cuz I personally look at Google a lot more than I look at Facebook Google and Google services a lot more than Facebook ones but for the passive user who's just like vegging like sitting at their computer kind of browsing something probably Facebook is more relative and is more relevant and if Facebook decides something doesn't exist I think for a lot of people they just basically would never see it where are they going to see it my Facebook is open a lot because I use it for like I have this group where like some friends from high school and I just all share music so I like play music through there almost constantly but I don't like go through my feed but I think you're probably right a huge portion of people would spend more overall time there um so anyway I could elaborate on the story but I realized I never posted on Facebook since we're talking about this tune into the WAN show yeah I can't I can't have it waterfall anymore uh from Twitter to Facebook cuz it just completely buries everything we post that way hate that which is pretty annoying because all basically all they're doing is wasting my time they're making me copy paste things inste I kind of want to like create our own little bot that will just like it's probably against terms of service yeah God damn it like probably definitely is but that would be so nice because if you created your own bot it wouldn't know CU it wouldn't be push uh it wouldn't be going through the API Services you could just have it literally like copy and pasted in to make it like a normal paste all right so going back into what happened the writer of the story was suspended from posting on Facebook for 24 hours he posted a historic Vietnam War image of a naked girl fleeing from her Napal bombed Vi Village they then published a story discussing and criticizing the deletion of the image and that post was also removed while containing the same image okay the notice from Facebook explains that any images with nudity in them will be removed so Espen Hansen editor-in-chief and CEO of Afton Poston I probably butchered that but I'm sorry accused Zuckerberg of abusing his power and then after that the prime minister of Norway decided to speak out about the situation she did this on Facebook but several of her posts on the topic were also deleted which is getting pretty ridiculous at that point to be fair this is probably just a bot going crazy I seriously doubt this is someone like manually intervention be like no screw you Norway like I don't know it's all Al a matter of and we have so there is an anonymous anonymous Facebook spokesperson who responded saying while we recognize that the photo is Iconic it's difficult to create a distinction between allowing a photograph of a nude child in one instance just going to say and not others above it said girl yes and if this was an underage girl yes it is so we try to find the right balance between enabling people to express themselves while maintaining a safe and respectful experience for our Global Community our Solutions won't always be perfect but we'll continue to try to improve our policy and they have back down and allowed the posting of this particular image which is interesting which is interesting but I also completely get where they're coming from that's what I'm saying we discussed this on W show last week without you but uh YouTube Google rude well you weren't there you did anything without me yes I did something without you I will make it up to you tonight so um so basically Google has cracked down on the not the posting of so this was why I publicly and strong L disagreed with some YouTuber statements that this is censorship which it is not if you can say whatever you want that is not censorship when someone refuses to pay you for saying whatever you want that's not censorship that's uh a completely different thing and and yeah cuz they're not taking people's videos down no or closing people's channels that's something I was getting really annoyed cuz there's so many videos that are like my channel is being closed I'm like no it's not you would be closing your channel yes they're just taking the anyway this ISR which a whole issue and it's and it's just a cold hard reality for if you're taking money from sponsors that you're going to have to behave in a way that sponsors approve of and it was going to happen eventually um but it's I want to one quick second on that I did someone posted a thing we can move to this after I was just going to kind of close this sure but basically what I didn't agree with was the way Google's doing it where they take this heavy-handed ban everything approach and then probably what they will do is will they will chip away like like kind it's kind of like they take like a big like a big brick of marble and they just kind of go okay so we're just like everything's covered and then they're just going to slowly chip away at the stuff that it turns out is actually okay until they end up with a statue of the devil stuff that no sponsor wants their wants their advertisements anywhere near um and and Facebook is doing it in much the same way but the reality of it is is do they really have a choice can Facebook manually go through and decide on every picture of a naked kid that's okay when they first Implement a policy and so I I actually like I kind of agree with everything that happened here except Facebook removing the posts complaining about the removal unless they also contain the pictur one I I'm wondering about the the the uh what was her was it prime minister I don't want to get the the position wrong uh yeah so it was uh nna Solberg prime minister of Norway I'm wondering what the details of those posts if it's just text complaining about the removal that's crazy that that was removed but if it was like I can't believe this was removed this is fine then I would be like okay I understand that anyways what I was going to say was someone was talking about how maybe a good solution for the uh monetization dropping that's going on YouTube yep would be different pools so Google could have like advertisers that allow their ads to go on more like crazy video or like traditionally not Advertiser friendly videos and like companies that want to have their ads on these crazy videos can get cheaper ad buys and maybe you get put in a lower monetization Group which is only open to those things did you you you said that okay all right I didn't watch the show I don't know it makes sense yeah it does make sense everyone's like let him keep going no don't tell them don't tell them no you started smiling weird and I was like I don't know what's happening and lonus never talks to Twitch chat that's what so I didn't know if you were trying to write to me or not because you don't normally type to Twitch chat I don't know um no I agree I agree completely I think that's how they should do it and I think that's how they will do it if anyone from Google watches the W show which I'm not convinced that they do but hey if it managed to make it off Wan show and back to you cuz I'm pretty sure you didn't watch The W show You' have known that I was the one who said that I mean someone else has probably come up with the idea independently as well I'm sure it's already the plan it's just a matter of it being difficult and complicated and they would have to I mean this is something a lot of people don't know a typical sponsor if you're lucky is negotiating their ad buys on a quarterly basis some of them will do it on like a yearly basis like we'll talk to a sponsor in like June and we'll be like hey so we'd love to work together we've got this cool idea for Q4 they'll be like yep all of our ad buys are pre-allocated at the beginning of the year and I'm kind of sitting here going and I hope none of our sponsors are watching this because especially those ones but what do you even do all day like seriously like what is your actual job if at one point at the beginning of the year you basically take all of the brain power out of deciding how to spend the advertising dollars that you have for the year probably manage those contracts to be understand though too that a lot of the time bigger Brands they they they sub contract this through agencies right well as far as I've been able to tell cuz I talked to someone about this I'm not going to say names or anything cuz i' I've asked people like why the hell do you actually do this cuz I hate dealing with sorry Danny middleman I hate dealing with the middlemen because you always end up just having pass through conversations yep and they're like okay we're confused because they told us one thing and now there's stuff going on and then like everyone has to kind of figure it out and you're just adding more steps to the process we had a deal fall through recently where we got on a call with the agency and the brand and it turned out that our so okay so so there were actually four layers here so there was us our MCN there was the brand agency and there was the brand four layers so our MCN did a great job the brand had a clear idea of what they wanted and honestly those things were pretty well aligned the agency basically passed along no information the call was a complete cluster hump and we found out shortly after the call it's like the guys last week there anyway so the Deal completely fell through so carry on but this stuff is and I don't want to deal with it anyway so I asked someone who was at one of the companies not one of the pr companies but one of the like companies that would hire the pr companies who was a PR person we call them a the brand right the brand there we go brand versus like agency okay so I talked to a PR person from the brand and as them why they don't do it and it's a shield yeah if their PR effort fails yes they can just be like their fault meet Shield not Brand's fault yep byebye and again this is going back to my personal theories it is a personal Shield as well what do you mean like if I worked at IBM let's that's what for for for everyone at the brand throughout the whole chain the brand itself and the people working at the brand it's it's all a shield it's a meat Shield yeah so all they have to say is okay well next year we will reallocate that entire chunk somewhere else that's we're going to reallocate it into social so basically someone gets paid an actual salary for an actual entire year to make a decision at the beginning of the year at one point in time to go okay we are going to allocate uh we are going to listen to some proposals and we are going to allocate budget here here here and here and then if it works then I will be submitting a great report about how well it worked and if it doesn't work I'm going to submit a report about how I fired those people oh man corporations man become a PR person yeah but you got to work your way up the food chain you got to get to the Brin yeah so first you'll be first you'll be like the meat deal with yeah you got to deal with being a meat Shield have to survive as a meat shield first yeah it's basically like Warfare but with words yes so in much the same way you can either survive as a meat shield and get promoted or you can just be born into it because like nepotism or whatever yeah yeah you have to defend against the internet's flamethrowers of compassion all right so uh moving on to our next topic uh oh yes Sony launches an AMD Polaris powered PlayStation 4 Pro so our original article here is from wccf Tech it's probably fine because this is like there's actually like a press release here are some specs like it's not speculation speculation wow I can't believe I've never made that joke before oh wow yeah um so basically there's a single chip custom processor featuring eight Jaguar cores though we do know that they are clocked higher so they're faster Jaguar cores but um okay we have a 1.84 teraflop AMD radon based Graphics engine so we know that this is not quite double the theoretical performance of what was already in the PlayStation 4 it's available with a 500 gig or a 1 tbte drive it's got 8 gigs of gddr5 memory um it has a Blu-ray Drive an ethernet port 10 gig land no I'm just kidding just gigabit uh it's approximately 2.1 kilograms starts at $400 US starts at $400 wait when is this for wait this is the new slim standard model gosh darn it this is the new this is the it's still eight gigs of gddr5 because that much is in the notes dang it where is the pro one a NCH had a good article on it I was looking at that uh okay so the pro one Higher clock speeds it is still 8 gigs of RAM that is said to run at higher Clocks 2 and is bolstered by new lossless memory compression technology from AMD uh the GPU component features over double the shading power of the PlayStation 4 and is based on the players okay so basically I got everything right the pro starts at 3.99 okay we got everything right even though we were looking at an article that I don't actually think was about it so go lus and Luke so okay Y in a nutshell what Sony is trying to do is they are trying to make their console all about 4K and they're still approaching it from sort of a um um a lackluster sort of angle yeah it's not grammatically correct but let's go with it lackluster angle so they're still approaching it in a way that is quite frankly just not going to work because as the college educated among you may know 4K is four times the pixel count of 1080p so right off the Hop if we're running games at anything less than 60 FPS native 1080p on the PlayStation 4 which we most assuredly are we will need four times the theoretical performance it doesn't quite work like that but but we will need more than two times the theoretical performance of the original PlayStation 4 in order to game it 4K smoothly at the same frame rates yeah because there's like a lot of other variables but there's a lot more to it than that um shaders are not the same as like you know your overall pixel fill rate is not the same as how your memory band with effect all of that like you you could you could double the functional units in the GPU but if you didn't increase the memory bandwidth at all then you you wouldn't get doubling and theoretical doubling does not equal practical real world doubling so there's a lot of things unless you had memory bandwidth that was already capable of the doubling even if you fully like double doubled without making any kind of architectural change I don't know that you would get double the performance we could test it though like we could we could go find a GPU that has exactly half of the cacor of the higher end one and see how it works out we might have other we might have to overclock and underclock but there'd probably be like memory bandwidth changes and stuff yeah I okay I don't know if it would be possible well let me tell you what we'll call up Nvidia or AMD we'll be like hey can you send us a custom GPU can you like seal off half of the are you there still um anyway so uh it's going to be the war again last time there was a PlayStation and Xbox launch and there is coming up there will be a Playstation Xbox launch there was all the image comparisons every single Tech YouTuber including us and probably this will happen again is going to create um computers that are like the same price or cheaper and better or the same performance and then everyone's going to be like but as computer parts keep coming out and these consoles are going to stay here for a little while in the future we'll have even better ones and then with the next GPU launch there will be even more videos of people going like oh man look you can even make faster computers for the same price as the consoles but then the consoles are going to go down in price and the yeah war is going to come do you want to redo 792p versus six-year-old graphics card I can that' be pretty funny yeah yeah that one's got almost a million views 926 th000 I kind of enjoyed that video it's uh there's again um like I just said for your like doubling thing there's some problems with it but it was a fun video that's true so I don't know I'm kind of excited for the war again just because I like I like what it brings in terms of like people actually building lowcost computers yeah and I get a kick out of uh I get a kick out of how much more and more PC like the consoles continue to become it's like now all of a sudden you can get PlayStations with different specs yes my friends PlayStation 4s with different Core specs and when you run games in your better Playstation 4 versus your peasant PlayStation 4 we're going to we're going to have like a whole new level there's going to be like there's going to be like like the the pcmr guys are going to be like there's like console peasants and then there's like console like vassals or something there's going to be like rankings and it's all going to be dramatic and it's going to be all over the YouTube comments and I'm going to sit back and I'm going to laugh um but but in a nutshell okay Tony needed to do this for a couple of reasons number one is it's all about for even Sony it's like you know the TV division's kind of sitting there going like how are you guys not helping us out here okay we're trying to sell some 4K TVs here right so they had to have 4K support whether it's for Blu-ray or whether it is for gaming 4K support had to come so they had to do something more powerful because the original PlayStation 4 was going to run games at like 12 frames per second twice a cinematic is 24 frames per second um also PlayStation VR there was speculation that was going to use some rendering tricks some frame interpolation tricks they were going to figure out how to get psvr running on the original PlayStation 4 and have it be a good experience we were skeptical looks like they didn't PlayStation 4 Pro or is that what they're calling it PlayStation 4 Pro yeah PS4 Pro is going to be the way to experience psvr if you care it all about a good experience what how does it make you professional if you were a Pro Gamer you probably wouldn't game on a like peasant station 4 yeah if you're a Pro Gamer you I bet they're going to call it peasant station 4 someone will call it peasant station 4 a PlayStation 4 Pro owner is going to start that you might have just started that yourself I'm not sure yeah people going to start having pictures of the original PlayStation 4 or peasant station 4 and have like fake dirt on it yeah oh man feel like it's the peasant station 4 oh my this this is going to be confusing actually one of the really good things about consoles for a long time was the like easy gifting idea Plug and Play the mom could just go to the store and be like my son wants the Xbox and then or the PlayStation yeah they'd be like here's the newest one here is one game the only game that matters right now y your son will or daughter will have to wait two years for more interesting more games yeah and that's and it was fine and now it's going to be and we liked it that way do you want the 500 gig model do you want the 1 TB model do you want the pro model do you want the non is your son not a professional is your daughter going to going to grow up to pump gas all her life I mean that's okay but you're not going to want the professional you're going to want this one and part of the problem is that this might actually introduce like competitive advantages pleb station 4 is another name for that okay yeah that'll probably be used okay uh you should maybe straw pull a few names that you see in there and see who poop station poop station sounds like a different thing it does it just literally sounds like a toilet yeah um apparently does not support 4K Blu-ray I did not know that I'd imagine that'll come with a firm update there's no way that it doesn't support 4K Blu-ray at some point that's ridiculous uh anyways what I was going to say was it might actually introduce a competitive Advantage because if you're getting significantly more frame rate like maybe maybe in older games that aren't meant to run or aren't designed to run at higher resolution they might run faster I was wrong I did not follow the PlayStation 4 Pro news because I don't care um but no the absence of a 4K Blu-ray player is due to a lack of consumer demand according to PlayStation boss Andrew House support cannot be patched in Via firmware update at a later date either he confirmed okay oh yeah lack of consumer demand the very first question on amazon.com when you scroll down on the pre-order page with over two times the we can switch to my screen if you'd like um with over two times the upvotes of any other question only at 42 but this is the your uh it's covered up by the I'll scroll it's okay I got it might want to give it the old ah fancy uh oh I'm going to do this it's only 42 votes as you can see there but it's like it's still up there and this is the pre-order page on Amazon way before you can buy it so I'm not suspecting that much and there's 206 answers which is insane compared to like the one or six or zero answers on the other questions I like the top answer and one of the most mindboggling decisions in console history no it cannot play Ultra HD Blu-rays so yeah lack of consumer demand may be an inaccurate statement what I'm going to say it may not also be complet completely like okay I personally own a movie watching setup that has a 65 in TV literally a meter from my face okay I am about as Target a market as 4K Blu-ray could possibly have I could not possibly care less really I I do like honestly I'll tell I have bought DVDs like even recently like before I got that set up and now I'm really disappointed I own DVDs but streaming 4K does not look better than 1080p Blu-ray and 1080p Blu-ray looks great even at that 4K Blu Ray cuz streaming 4K is not the same oh no it's not it's not the same on like a few levels which is which is a whole a whole other way to attack Sony's argument for going pretty blunt here and say that I don't think you can comment if you haven't okay okay fine so I'll tell you what I will obtain a 4K Blu-ray at some point and we will revisit this conversation that could be a cool video isth it actually that's probably a pretty good video I should probably do that you should probably and I'll be like for you no it's a meter from your face hell yeah um okay but like what was I going to say I think that consumer demand would be more existent if this thing did support it yeah because I don't think that many people are going to want to go buy a player for 4K Blu-ray but if their PlayStation already supported it and they go buy a couple discs maybe especially if they were cheap like especially by the time and maybe that's part of the problem maybe they don't feel like supporting it because they're not going to get $29.99 for a Blu-ray disc anymore uh so maybe the royalties just aren't even like I I don't know what the rationale internally at Sony is exactly but basically they've decided it's not worth it yeah um but like personally especially for like five bucks like in the $7 bin Maybe not tomorrow cuz 4K Blu-ray is going to be expensive for a bit but in the $7 bin in a few years I would rather own it than stream it in a lot of cases yep me too I don't buy everything a lot of stuff I stream certain content though especially like I'm buying House of Cards even though I have a 4K Netflix subcription hackers uh uh Harry Potter Lord of the Rings secret life of Walter midi The Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus these are all things that I'd like to have on yep on a physical media that I own yep I mean I don't keep them on physical media because I made that video yeah cuz it's stupid I agree with that but the idea is that you you have it cuz Netflix is really volatile without web compression y I have it forever y because I paid for it and these streaming services are volatile I don't think Netflix is going to go away that's not what I mean by volatile but the content that's on there can change and does CH yeah and it's designed that way like it's supposed to be like that they're not going to license everything cuz that costs money and I love it and it's fine and people who watch Netflix are going to like watch Netflix regularly they want to be refreshing it so that's fine yeah it also creates that urgency like when you see something like it's very smart actually um what was I oh right I was going to add this to the um so is 4K Blu-ray worth it no but I like it so there that's already the whole video all 6,782 of you can save yourselves the effort but for everyone else hopefully that'll be video I still I still kind of want like it's totally not worth it it goes completely against the algorithm stuff that YouTube is trying to use right now but I would still love to make that channel that we talked about back at the old office was it I don't know if you remember this but um I talked about it with a OnePlus review I think it was the OnePlus One that I was talking about it for where I would be like it's just like super short tech reviews so like 30 second revieww so yeah like terrible company good phone problems with software stuff look it up on the forums but it's cheap but it's cheap see you next time and like you could review graphics cards like that cuz you could just take a price performance graph be like it's Lots here see you next time I hate you what seriously though so many things could be done that way everyone's suggesting we do Tech quickie reviews Tech quickie review Tech quickie could start doing product reviews we even have a place to put it potentially that's oh it's so short though it's shorter than Tech quickies cuz Tech quickies aren't really like the fastest possible well they used to be fast as possible now they're like as as much history and context as possible yeah yeah they're not that short no yeah I don't know twitch chat's freaking out they wanted on they want it on Tech Wiki it's so short cuz these would be like patent it 30 second these would be like 30 second videos yeah I don't know we need to trademark the the name react react oh Lord maybe we could trademark the name 30 second videos and then if anyone makes a video that's 30 seconds long we can just crush them bow um turbotech that's not a bad name for turbo tech h whoa slow down there turbo I I don't know twitch chat's like flipping out they love this I'm just I'm just soaking in the twitch chat experience right now but yeah do you remember that conversation we talked about it with the OnePlus I I actually do vaguely remember it but I had completely forgotten I had like a script for the OnePlus One done at that point in time I I I don't remember where it ended up going but um it was like you can do it for so many things oh man any modern motherboard here's all the ports it has enjoy yeah by the way if you want to put your old CPU on it get crapped off yeah CPUs more Co they're slightly faster it consumes less power enjoy you could just and then like you could just copy paste videos so like don't don't say the product name in the video and then if like if the content of the review would be the same you just put a different title on it and re-upload it so like every CPU Cooler that comes out have this heat pipes check aluminum fins check flat bottom surface check comes with a fan check performance pretty good and then okay that that could be the difference for every video there just be performance pretty good and there's a graph while you say performance pretty good and it just slots it wherever it goes which is going to be like exactly where the ones in the same form factor go and then you're done not the worst idea I've ever heard I mean it okay we're going to get it's so far away from like Advertiser friendly and it's completely the opposite of what YouTube wants yeah we're going to get killed on watch time oh destroyed I think we're going to get killed on like comments cuz like we're going to have to like that's the thing is we're going to have to get down and dirty with like fan Bo arguments like if we're going to try and summarize an AMD or an Nvidia graphics card we're going to have to be like runs hot is loud worst drivers I love that you didn't say what brand there no that's because it switches Generation by generation it does but no but Okay the reason why I said that is cu the the copy paste video thing that I was talking about CU you could just use that for like a bunch of different cards I like it way too much I just it it does have a it has a lot of problems and the thing is people don't even want that people want words yep even if they're pretty close to unnecessary they want words and sometimes the words are about pacing and they're about absorbing what you're looking at and adding impact to a certain part of the video or like specifically what you're saying or whatever else like I have intentionally over the years on lineus Tech tips and on Tech quickie increase the length of the videos to add more depth and more analysis and more we used to do history I had a benchmark for text length for videos before yep and I think I got it from you and it was a page and a half including your intro and all the extra stuff that's on our script templates 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to have been completely sitting on their ass for the last 3 years they haven't released the successor to the NHD 15 which took forever after the NHD 14 and was just bigger anyway they haven't released a successor to it in years and the answer is that they were like well we tried all these things and and they showed a lot of stuff they tried a lot of things and they tried a lot of stuff that other companies have released products claiming that it's like way better but actually when you actually put it on a CPU it doesn't make a difference and it's like oh I can't figure out why why you're not seeing a difference in our lab we see a difference oh don't come into our lab um nox was just like yeah we tried all that crap it doesn't work sorry or they'd be like an astronomical amount more money to make and made like2 of a difference yeah they made an all copper one for example they're like yeah yeah copper is more conductive that's cool yeah that was really interesting actually it's like super balls heavy and super duper balls expensive it's like why don't we just make about of silver at that point I mean do you want a $900 heat sink gold cuz we could make it for you would probably be terrible it would droop oh yeah ter gold would be awful and it's as conductive as silver anyway yeah I've heard about that yep um okay all right let's stop beating around the bush Apple's iPhone 7 wait wait wait wait I got it hold up iPhone 7 really expensive no headphone jack you can use an adapter it's $40 and really big thanks for watching this video was sponsored by Dollar Shave Club if you hate wasting time check out their razors they ship directly to your door also Squarespace lets you build a website that's beautiful in like a very short period of time for only crap I'm bad at this I am just inherently a verbose person I think that's why I needed a podcast that was like an hour long I can headliner the out of this channel man all right so let's screen share with me the verg's article The 11 most important thing from Apple's iPhone 7 event you didn't even get all 11 of them you suck all of mind you I think they have the Apple Watch 2 as one of the most important things so I really don't think that uh I'm going to agree with Y yeah no no sorry Verge we're done we're done here ni um although so what I don't know yet I can't believe they showed off a Pokémon go app for the Apple watch that took up like a significant amount of time um in the keynote um what I don't know about the Apple watch is whether the screen is always on I haven't actually seen that in anyone's summary and I haven't finished watching the event yet I haven't watched that part uh so maybe twitch chat can let me know supposedly it is twice as bright which is wonderful but I never asked for that what I asked for was to be able to tell the freaking time was the problem at all no it wasn't the problem was that it isn't on and a lot of people have criticized me over this they've been look lest you don't get it my Apple watch lasts all day I'm like good for you not the point not the point I want to be able to tell what time it is when I'm sitting having an awkward conversation and I'm trying to figure out when I need to dismiss myself from this so that I can be somewhere on time and that doesn't work when I have to go like this I mean that should be like a dance do the watch do the watch do this specific gesture if you want to know the time do the watch do the watch that's going to be gift to hell oh I know right um there's nothing we can do about that okay what if we do them as supplementary reviews so for every take this conversation offline let's Okay Apple iPhone 7 same display as the 6s they say it's 25% brighter cool same resolution which I don't personally care about I'd just as soon save the battery life and have a lower resolution display as long as I can't tell that it's lower resolution which quite frankly I cannot the home button now has no physical click this is a big one for me this is something that if the phone didn't have other crippling problems with it could convince me that an iPhone is a more worthwhile purchase now than it was yesterday uh because the physical click is breakable because it's breakable and because it does break because it breaks frequently if it didn't really break then it would be fine but I've heard so many people that have to replace buttons including you right Y and there are other issues like for a while Apple wasn't allowing people to retain Touch ID if they were place the button themselves which is ridiculous I think they've addressed that now but the point is now it's haptic feedback so it feels like a click but it's not and if it works anywhere near as well as the MacBook 2015 it'll be awesome and I will love it okay yeah their haptic feedback engine is like very good very good okay it's water resistant they're calling it out as IP67 and they have been scandals so the S7 active um you know was found with I think it was two samples the consumer reports or something like Anyway was found to not necessarily be all that water resistant uh if Apple's claiming it I what I will say is it's probably pretty darn good and I talked about this and this is going to be really embarrassing because I did a review of the odsy sign um headphones a lightning headphone and it got bumped because of packs so the release to YouTube is is a twoe window instead of a onee window and I speculate about the new iPhone 7 if that's what they're going to call it and then I speculate that if the objective was to increase water resistance like if they're going to give me some meaningful benefit out of taking away my headphone jack then that will probably be it because I could see apple now they've eliminated the home button which is very difficult to Ingress protect they have eliminated the headphone jack which is difficult to Ingress protect so if the objective here was not only to you know make the phone slightly Slimmer which I don't care about but if it was to give me a meaningful upgrade in some other way I would be a lot more receptive to it and it looks like that is indeed what they did although that video will still be kind of embarrassing so Apple's Ear Pod will now collect collect connect through the lightning connector Port there are no headphone there is no headphone jack on the thing that I wanted to add about your ingress protection thing this phone is I don't remember what it is IP67 if i7 I don't believe that I've taken it out of spec um it has problems there you go that are very probably because of water on the other hand the Galaxy S7 has been the best performing water resistant device that I've yet seen surviving I think we went 20 ft down that's int before it died or 20 or 30t down in salt water before it managed to die so this audio jack basically horrible Yeah so basically the point is there's a lot of variability and if Apple has been quietly working on improving the water resistance of their devices over time which we know yeah and they're basic they've basically determined okay well for us to put IP67 on something we need to eliminate these ports and they were just kind of waiting for the right moment to do it because it's not like water resistant competitors haven't been out for quite a while now maybe they kind of went okay you know you have to be what is it you have to have the courage to move forward or with a thing that no something like that but okay my counter argument to that a little bit I said I was going to Devil's Advocate you but not yet um why don't just have two go dually USB type C's yeah I mean that's an interesting you can have one that like this one charges faster by the way or something you can plug it into either but like this one will charge your phone faster apple is I mean I think they're philosophically opposed to that like they've never put yeah they've never put an extra port on anything if they didn't have to I mean they even have a laptop computer that only has one port and a headphone jack though oh wck oh man I mean are we going to see Apple's laptop like have they been waiting to refresh their laptops so they can put lightning connectors on them like interesting there's a thought um so I mean the summary is and I actually do a better job of this in my odsy sign review and I'll talk about it some more when I review the iPhone 7 which I undoubtedly will um but the summary is it's a mixed bag you get a little bit of extra space inside the device that you can use for whatever it is that you determine you need to use it for you lose compatibility with 99.999% of headphones on the planet uh without a goofy adapter that people will undoubtedly lose like I was actually um uh so I have another device here in the studio the uh Droid Z force uh from Lenovo the Moto Droid Z force from like yeah Lenovo acquired them I think they're branding at Lenovo anyway the point is it only has a USB type-c connector it does not have a headphone jack and I've used the adapter and it cleverly they include this little rubber thing so that you can stick it to your headphones so it doesn't like come off and get lost um I think people are ultimately going to be salty about it I'm salty like eight of those cables I would prefer to just be able to plug in natively um I don't personally find that upgraded amps and DXs make a huge difference for me with the kind of source material that I use and that quite if we're all being honest with ourselves none of you use either um so I never wanted this but at the end of the day oh I think it's this cable um did that change your mic did you fully unplug it oh maybe it's worth checking oh for crying out loud but at the end of the day people are going to accept it no it's still fine and uh yeah I think we're all going to move on I mean apple is pushing their wireless ear pods airpods is that what they're calling them they look so ridiculous yeah they have new uh they have new uh wireless Beats the problem for me is that this introduces yet another charge thing in my life that I have to charge every day that's the very first thing I thought of when I saw that was like wow I don't want to charge my headphones Now intel showed off a couple of years ago at CES they showed off a wireless charging Bowl the concept for which is awesome okay that I would be okay with wireless crap if all I had to do at the end of the day go to bed is like shed your watch drop your earphones in drop your phone in I get up in the morning and everything is wirelessly charged it slow charges so my battery doesn't heat up and I work like it awes and it's amazing that would be great and maybe that's the future we're heading towards and maybe you have to take these steps in order to get enough Mass Appeal for these wireless devices that you can get the economies of scale that are associated with shrinking the batteries and shrinking the electronics and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah maybe we're heading towards that but it is a very frustrating stepping stone and I personally would still use my iPhone 6s although I'm saying this without having used the seven they say the camera is amazing I probably will still use my iPhone 6s if I need to use an iOS device there that's my two cents I'm not going to buy a full gamut of new headphone things cuz I use full headphones and earbuds with my phone so okay that's not going to happen but I want I wanted again I'm going to need a million of them and like they're probably not cheap uh I don't remember how much they cost but I'm sure we will see cheaper ones after the fact someone was say someone said 40 bucks in the twitch chat but I don't think that's right I've I think 40 bucks wasn't that for the Balon USBC to dual USBC that I'm not sure have you seen that so Belin has an adapter already or not USBC derp lightning um that just splits it but it's like on a short little cable and then it's a huge box so that you'd be able to plug in a headphone a microphone thing there you go oh Lordy but it also doesn't break to 3.5 and that's $40 yeah and that well that's to address the other issue I mean I haven't even talked about that now you can't charge your phone and use headphones at the same time unless you're using wireless headphones that's a big problem for me which is a huge problem for any mobile gamer I mean Apple's keynote blah blah blah we are the biggest Mobile gaming platform blah blah blah blah you can only game for a few hours on an iPhone before it runs out of battery ha good luck listening to your headphones so you don't have have to be that jerk on the bus that's got Clash of Clans well I said freaking by the way that sort of slipped out kind of funny I don't swear on this show kids at home don't repeat what you heard here um I mean you know Clash of Clans on the bus making everyone around you mad yeah like that's super ridiculous and like obviously you can just mute it or whatever but that's lame yeah that's stupid why would you degrade The Experience no a new device should never degrade the experience what I'm expecting is that I kind of think someone's going to come out with a a case that has extra ports built in I'm not kidding so you're just going to have to buy a bigger phone essentially our new device is magical it's revolutionary it's three times as big with all the stupid adapters that you have bolted onto it but like having it slim Lin in a case as Slim as it can get um and just making your phone taller essentially is probably the most elegant solution that they're going to be able to do so the case will plug into the bottom of your phone it's like saying the most elegant way to put a 2 two on a hippo like there well there is a most elegant way to put a two two on a hippo I'm sure there is but who cares yeah but I would be more interested in this though I would rather use the phone if it got to a split out box in an external case thing and that went into like dual USB or why do I keep saying USB dual lightning and like and a 3.5 it's technically USB so that would be Wicked dual lightning at a 3.5 I would be very happy so there's a new camera CER larger aperture Optical image stabilization the iPhone 7 actually gets an additional telephoto lens on the back that works like a built-in Zoom feature uh longer battery life like apparently very substantially they haven't specified the capacity yet I guess we'll just have to wait for the iFix and tear down I don't know why they're so like about all this stuff we're going to figure it out eventually anyway the front-facing camera is now 7 megapixels and includes Auto Image stabilization which is not the same as Optical image stabilization so we'll find exactly what that means and they have finally done away with the 16 gig capacity and they have a glossy jet black that will look great in photos and will validate once and for all why Luke and I have to spend so much time being angry at manufacturers for making glossy black things and it will be because the iPhone 7 will sell better in that color than anything else because Apple made it more exclusive by making it only available in the higher capacities so people are going to want to show off that they have a ball in one they're going to get a glossy jet black one and we are going to have to continue to be mad that our wireless routers are glossy black plastic and look stupid after 4 seconds because you had the audacity to plug a cable into them or just let dust sit on them that too glossy things just look terrible unless you literally just cleaned it so we asked on Twitter um if people wanted to suggest what we should talk about on Wow about the iPhone 7 I completely forgot to look at this but I'm pretty sure that we talked about most of them um yeah I one of the things that I really don't like about the wireless ear pods is that they look like earrings have you seen that um yeah yeah I saw them I think they look ridiculous they do yeah like most wireless headphones they just wrap around they're going to turn into a status symbol they're going to be like the original white ear pods or no they weren't called earpods whatever I don't care white ear white earphones H I don't know man we'll see we will see but I don't some celebrity is going to wear them yeah yeah but then you look at like Bluetooth things yeah those always kind of made you look sort of like a douche yeah they make you look like a douche and and these will make you look like a douche unless you're like cool and then they will make you look like a douch whatever oh man uh most people really just asked for the headphone jack removal controversy so yeah yeah that was fairly obvious um Robert Preston says I'm an easy man to make happy I want a phone that makes calls and doesn't explode yep I like that well you have to shop fairly carefully these days not exploding is an exclusive feature all right so yeah they talk about waterproof talk about okay so our summary notes were fine excellent good I'm happy with the waterproof improvements it's expensive by the way I've been a big I've been a I've been a big wow I've been a bigon no I just it got caught in my nasal because I'm sick right now all right The eyew Watch 2 is here hooray you're going to review it I probably will I'll probably end up just saying I think it's stupid again starts at three excuse me $370 has GPS boasts a brighter display so basically they addressed everything that I don't care about it's like more waterproof now I don't know how many people's Apple watches are dying in the water MSRP for a GTX 1070 yeah not that you can buy them get better video card than probably have if you didn't buy an Apple Watch I have a rant on that coming uh there's a new Mario game for iOS the original article here is from Kotaku coming on Android later so there you go Mario is on a phone which is exciting because if you wanted to play Mario on your phone then that will excite you I mean it'll be nice to have better quality Platformers on mobile so that's cool y it'll offer three distinct modes so there's challenge courses to complete there's a second mode which is challenging play data of other people's courses and then you can create your own Mushroom Kingdom using coins collected by playing the first two modes one thing that drives me insane about this where's the actual topic uh it'll be free to download with a set purchase price what what does that even mean and that's not like a weird quote that Colton did that's exactly the quote in quotations that's what the guy said so like I don't know know cuz I read I I read it'll be free to download but with a set purchase price and was like Wow Colton way to go clicked through and was like oh actually yes good job Colton more literally this time what does that even mean okay you claimed to see this coming I did not hit me hit me VR adoption among steam users has crashed to a halt original article here is from Venture beat uh VR is an extremely difficult thing to properly explain the experience and feeling of without having the person actually do it apparently it means uh it is not free you pay there are no microtransactions you can download it for free but you have to pay to unlock it that's super dumb yeah so there you go okay sure that's super dumb yeah it was apparently a bad translation okay okay that makes sense um okay so yes it's extremely it's it's hard to translate because it's an experience MH it's like some it's like telling someone that um a roller coaster was cool who's never been on a roller coaster or anything that moves quickly or inflicted GeForce on them at all before mhm yeah you go around the corner and it like pulls your body and stuff and the person's like what like it doesn't it doesn't translate very well every single person I've described VR2 no matter how excited and how intricate I made the description once they try it completely different conversations they're pretty dead pan and like yeah sure whatever dude then they try it they're like whoa I want one like every single time so here is sort of where I didn't see this coming cuz I agree with everything you just said okay but what I thought was that people would do that people would show their friends and they'd be like whoa I want one so what you're saying is that the people who play VR games don't have friends well there's a combination of things um that's possibly true I mean I play VR I don't have friends I'm that's possibly true to a certain degree one thing that I was pushing for quite a while and you probably know this is that I wanted Best Buys and stuff like brick and mortar stores setting up yeah but not really yet yeah it takes time and it's not really that great yet and I've heard of a couple small brick and mortar stores having them with the rift which is not the experience that I want people trying right and the most popular VR experience right now is with the damn gear VR o the gear VR is awful exactly so people are getting this gear VR for free throwing it on and then going why the heck censoring myself a little bit there would I ever spend all that money $1,000 for like that but better because it isn't that but better it's not that at all completely different categories of things right but they're called falling at the same thing and Samsung is oh oh yeah and their their radio advertisements are like oh yeah today I was running around with dinosaurs and then I was like fighting zombies and stuff and so they try to make it the same amount of exciting and they describe it in the exact same way that people are describing the high-end headsets then people are trying the gear vrs and then going why the hell would I ever buy that nicer one so people are not exposed to it in a direct Hands-On way right people are exposed to shitty versions of it in a direct Hands-On way mhm and the community that has them is very small and then they're really expensive right and the well-informed community also knows that these are the first version there's probably follow-up versions coming relatively quickly that will be considerably better and that's going to be happening for a while y okay so like it's it's this huge I totally saw this coming uh that's why that's a big reason why I was worried about even making the rift review so late is because I knew the hype train was already crashing so hard all right so basically the numbers are here uh according to a survey of customers that use steam conducted by Valve um the number of new HTC VI owners on Steam only grew by 3% in July and remained flat in August Oculus saw similar results of 3% in July and .1% in August yep July and August are important because they are the first first months where both HTC and Oculus are shipping orders when they receive them wow that's tough eh yeah all right um let me just see if we've got anything else that's really interesting here I would be interested in seeing some other statistics on that steam thing like the percentage of computers that can actually perform properly with those VR headsets how many of those people are buying headsets right because a huge amount of the steam Hardware survey is like not even necessarily dedicated GPU laptops y that's true and like your mom's HP that was 300 bucks and stuff like that so a lot of these things VR headsets aren't even remotely in the Horizon for them and it doesn't apply so the percentage sounds lower than it probably should so this made me mad and then I got over it Google Chrome to disallow backspace as the back button see I'm going to press backspace and it's not going to do anything mind you this is the first page I loaded in this tab so it probably wouldn't have done anything anyway but I'll demonstrate again I'm pressing see oh look at that alt left press alt left Arrow to go back press alt left all right all right Chrome there you go so the idea is to keep people from losing all their work by accidentally trying to backspace something and then losing a web form which I personally don't really have a lot of difficulty with apparently this is really old and this is old not not this VR thing oh Chrome well whatever I know no they've been rolling it out slowly okay it hit me this week okay and I hadn't heard about it and it made me mad you use that that's all I use backspace to go yeah yeah I don't all the time I don't well I just do it with my mouse whatever which will still work I do it with both get wrecked sometimes I touch the little back button on the touch screen yeah that's right whoa yeah you're a you're like I'm like a rebel triangle yeah um what no I kind of I'll sure all right no I'll I'll I'll do it I'll I'll bite I'll bite on this one okay Turing phone Cadenza will apparently feature dual Snapdragon 830s with a 60 megapixel quad rear camera triplet lens why would you have quad rear cameras so IMAX 6K is the resolution they're calling that dual front cameras 20 megapixels 12 gigs of RAM one tab of storage swordfish OS with deep learning AI what is this a a 5.8 inch 1440 by 2560 display um so Turing robotics has revealed plans for the future of the Turing phone uh should be a Leading Edge program to realize the next generation of mobile devices um 1 gbit per second 60 GHz y gig support I mean what are they planning saying the phone will be released sometime in 2017 quad nano SIM support I mean this B basically just sounds like someone going on PC parts picker and just like picking all the most expensive stuff that totally won't work together and just putting it in a cart graphine oxide composite body workor with liquid metal 2.0 structural frame it's only going to have a 2 2400 milliamp oh 2400 milliamp graphine super capacitor battery so like basically like instant charging and a 16600 Milah lithium hyrogen hydrogen fuel cell and it's really funny because our next topic is halflife 3 confirmed which is almost like that phone is like halflife 3 confirmed why is this in here what is this we're almost at the back to the future date we're even closer to the Star Wars Tipping Point the what on May 13th The Phantom Menace will have come out closer to Return of the Jedi than to the present it's weird how I'm consistently surprised by the passage of time when it's literally the most predictable thing in the universe you know a long time ago should have plus four more decades added into the re-releases what oh hold on a second halflife halflife episode 2 it's been that many days September 10th 2016 so that's the oh I see okay wow has it really was it yeah it was 10 years has it really been 10 years since halflife episode 2 holy crap we're old wow speaking of VR things cuz someone lit the fire um Oculus touch controller price was leaked on media Mark for €200 oh cool which is probably going to be $200 as well because because H take that Europeans you're not an American so you get wrecked by pricing apparently sorry we're not Americans either so before anyone forgets that point um we just like talking about Trump because it's funny and it really impacts us a lot because we live really close and we're really small population yeah I mean what if he makes us pay for a wall that is like a really long border it is all right so thank you for tuning in to the W show we will see you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel we could employ all the oil riggers that way could be good what if you made the wall out of solar panels and then it became a profit Venture we could export the power to the states so you're saying solar freaking walls yeah solar freaking walls solar freaking walls you're not allowed on this show would the top of the wall be a road like if you travel along the border on the wall Road Road Wall okay\n"