The decision to upgrade your computer hardware is often a difficult one. One question that many people ask themselves is whether it's worth spending money on an expensive new graphics card, CPU, or other components when they're not sure if they'll actually use them right away. In this case, the speaker suggests that if you have the money and are planning to upgrade your computer in the near future, it may be worth considering a more powerful component, even if you don't think you'll need all of its capabilities immediately.

The reason for this is that technology moves quickly, and what's considered "state-of-the-art" today may become outdated in just a few years. For example, the speaker notes that in 2018, a mid-range graphics card like the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 was sufficient for playing games at high detail settings. However, by 2020, that same card would be limiting compared to more modern options with higher thread counts and faster performance. In other words, if you buy a graphics card today, it may not be as useful in just a few years when newer, better cards become available.

The speaker also notes that CPUs are particularly difficult to upgrade, as they often require a new motherboard to function properly. This means that if you spend money on a high-end CPU, you may end up having to replace your entire motherboard in the future, which can be expensive and time-consuming. On the other hand, graphics cards are relatively easy to swap out, making them a more accessible option for those who want to upgrade their performance without breaking the bank.

In terms of how much it's worth investing in these upgrades, the speaker suggests that if you have the money and can find a deal on a high-end component, it may be worth splurging. For example, if you could buy a graphics card for 450 and get three years of use out of it instead of just one or two years with a lower-cost option, that would be a good investment. The speaker also notes that some components, like CPUs, hold their value well over time, making them a good choice for those who want to upgrade without breaking the bank.

The speaker's logic is simple: if you're going to spend money on an upgrade, it may as well be worth spending more to get something that will last longer and provide better performance. By buying a high-end component today, you can delay the need for an upgrade for several years, which can save you money in the long run.

The speaker also notes that some people might say "I'll just wait and see what happens" or "I'll buy it when I really need it." However, this approach often backfires. For example, if you buy a graphics card today and find out in three years that you don't actually need all of its capabilities, you may end up having to sell it for a lower price than you bought it for, which can be a loss.

In contrast, buying a high-end component now can provide peace of mind and give you time to enjoy the benefits of better performance without feeling like you're wasting your money. The speaker notes that even if it's not as fast as the latest and greatest option, a mid-range or higher-end component from three years ago may still be plenty good enough for most users.

Ultimately, the decision to upgrade is up to each individual, but the speaker suggests that investing in a high-end component today can be a smart move, especially if you have the money and can find a good deal. By buying something that will last longer and provide better performance, you can enjoy the benefits of improved gaming, productivity, or other applications without breaking the bank.

The speaker also notes that future-proofing is not as important as it used to be. In the past, it was a big deal to buy components that were future-proofed, meaning they would last for several years before becoming outdated. However, with technology moving so quickly today, even a high-end component from just a few months ago may become obsolete in a short time.

For example, if you bought a top-of-the-line graphics card today, it's likely to be limited by its thread count and performance capabilities within 18 months or two years. At that point, the next generation of graphics cards would have already arrived, offering even better performance and capabilities. In this sense, spending money on a high-end component today may not be as much of an investment in the long run.

On the other hand, buying something that's not necessarily future-proofed can still provide value for several years. For example, if you bought a mid-range graphics card like the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 in 2018, it would have been sufficient for playing games at high detail settings for two or three years before becoming outdated. This is especially true for applications that are not heavily reliant on cutting-edge technology, such as general productivity software or office work.

In conclusion, the decision to upgrade your computer hardware is a personal one, but the speaker suggests that investing in a high-end component today can be a smart move, especially if you have the money and can find a good deal. By buying something that will last longer and provide better performance, you can enjoy the benefits of improved gaming, productivity, or other applications without breaking the bank.

The speaker also notes that future-proofing is not as important as it used to be, and that even a high-end component from just a few months ago may become obsolete in a short time. However, buying something that's not necessarily future-proofed can still provide value for several years, especially if you're looking at applications that are not heavily reliant on cutting-edge technology.

Overall, the decision to upgrade is up to each individual, but the speaker suggests that investing in a high-end component today can be a smart move, providing better performance and longer-term value.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhello and welcome to tech deals part 1 of the $1,500 buick build this is the best on a budget i 787 hundred cpu mid range but still very nice z 370 motherboard geforce gtx 1070 graphics card nvme SSD 16 gigs of DDR 4 ram RGB liquid cooler a nice case and a nice semi modular power supply this is five hundred dollars down from the two thousand dollar Cadillac build that I did recently with an i7 8700 K and a 1080 Ti this provides excellent 1080p and 1440p gaming with that graphics card not really 4k but if you're looking to save some money it is a reasonable middle choice between the Cadillac and the Chevy this video is the parts overview and the y vlog all rolled into one I'm not doing them separately this time I'm gonna go through each of these parts talk about their pros and cons and alternatives but before we get into that I'm gonna do the 50,000 foot overview first talk about this computer from the big picture before we get down to the nitty-gritty first let's talk about gaming performance if you want to play all current games on the market at 1080p full-hd at high to ultra detail at sixty to a hundred and forty-four frames per second depending upon the game this machine will absolutely do that it has all the CPU needed and all the graphics card needed to basically play anything at 1080p without any compromises or reservations how much framerate you get and how much detail you get is variable you'll get lower frame rates at ultra detail you can get higher frame rates at high detail that's a personal choice as to whether or not you want pretty or fast but at 1080p basically you have no compromises here at 1440p standard meaning not ultra wide the normal 16:9 screen this computer will actually still play most current games at 1440p ultra detail at 60 frames per second and many games at high detail at a hundred plus frames per second it will not play every game at hundred frames per second at Ultra you'd need a 1080 Ti for that and even that would struggle in games but with very minor compromises at 1440 resolution this machine really is all that you need now 1440p ultra-wide the 21:9 screens are a little bit different those are five million pixels they are actually closer to 4k than they are to 1080p this machine will absolutely do it but it will not do them at Ultra at 100 frames per second because it's 5 million pixels it's two and a half times a standard 1080p screen it's a lot of pixels to move if you're okay with 1440p at high detail ultra wide that card absolutely will do it it is not a problem if you want more than that if you want a hundred frames per second if you want very higher Ultra you'll need a 1080 Ti but in terms of price it's a good compromise for a screen like that now what about 4k it will do 4k and absolutely if you want to play overwatch and Rainbow six siege and fortnight at 4k this is absolutely all you need almost overkill but not quite actually in games like fortnight it'd be very nice to have now what I want to play Ghost Recon wildlands Mass Effect Andromeda etc on this card at 4k no it doesn't have the horsepower you need a 1080 Ti for that but you don't need a 1080 Ti to play a lot of middle ground games at 4k you might want more than say a 1060 or an Rx 580 at 4k you want the extra V ran this has you want the extra processing power it is noticeable in terms of her performance jump over a 1060 but it's a lot less expensive than a 1080 TI now that's gaming offline what about live streaming perhaps you want a live stream to twitch or to YouTube this CPU will provide you with all the horsepower you need to livestream any current game on the market I've done that with various games including games like Ghost Recon wildlands on my i7 8700 I do have a better graphics card but I was also playing at 1440p my advice is you forget a live stream play at 1080p the combination of this graphics card at 1080p and that CPU you shouldn't have any problem the only possible caveat is system RAM if you're gonna be live streaming heavy Triple A games you might want more than 16 gigs of RAM that's absolutely all you need to just play any game on the market but if you also want to record in live stream your games run OBS run multiple monitors you really probably should have 32 gigs of RAM but this is enough for not live-streaming anything or if you're gonna livestream overwatch csgo League of Legends etc 16 gigs would be absolutely plenty what about non gaming performance a lot of these videos on YouTube end up being all about the gaming how well does it game how well does it play game stream games etc not everybody cares about gaming perhaps you want to put together a high end system for multitasking content creation 3d animation maybe you just want something snappy and responsive to be honest this build is overkill for the average person if you're not focused on gaming there's no need to spend that much money on a graphics card frankly as nice as the CPU is even it's overkill an i5 8400 or arisin 5 1600 would be plenty for the average person looking to just multitask watch videos do your taxes edit work documents this is really really overkill for that now if by chance you're doing something complicated scientific computing etc maybe you want to build a server or a workstation or a high-end content creation machine well this probably isn't right for that either because if you're doing that then you might actually want more cores you might want to be on a professional platform like X 299 or X 399 you might want to consider Rison 7 so this machine is really heavily entertainment and gaming focused about a third of this machines budget is in a graphics card between the graphics card and the CPU that's actually half the budget right there so if you're not interested in gaming you can spend a whole lot less than this and still get an amazing fast computer that does everything else just fine side note a lot of people are under the impression that if you're running Photoshop or illustrator or doing video editing you need a 1070 or 1080 or a really fancy graphics card you don't there are a very small number of people doing that kind of work who need GPU accelerated encoding but most encoding is still done on the CPU Adobe Premiere Pro when the I do these videos for YouTube for example that's all CPU some of the effects and transitions are GPU accelerated but it's such a minor percentage I have tested this by the way I put in a previous generation gtx 960 very basic card compared to a modern 1070 in one of my 4k videos the render time difference was like 1% it was trivial so you don't need a high end graphics card for that unless you're truly a professional content creator in which case you really should be on the high end platforms I am filming this video in February of 2018 one of the things that haven't addressed so far but I will talk about it here is the fact that the $1500 price for this machine isn't normal retail prices everything that you see here is currently at normal retail prices except for the graphics card the current GPU market is a bit out of whack the $1500 price has that budgeted 450 dollars which is what it should cost however unfortunately today in February 2018 those are currently going for more sometimes much more one consideration is to buy a pre-built machine and buy pre-built I don't mean Dell Acer HP Lenovo etc I mean CyberPower ibuypower Origin PC etc now I have done a number of reviews of those machines on my channel in the past I will put a link or two down in the video description below to a couple of recommended machines that are similar to this at a similar price point the benefit you can actually buy one of those today with a nice graphics card the downside is you don't get to pick out your individual components you don't get to pick out which liquid cooler you want which SSD you want which motherboard you want you sort of have to take whatever they put in there so there's pros and cons to both routes or you can just pay maybe $300 give or take more say 1,800 and set of 1,500 and build exactly what you see hopefully in the coming days weeks and months graphics cards return to normal prices and then we can just go back to building machines again so that's the 50,000 foot overview for this build what about the comparison to the $2,000 Cadillac build versus the $1,000 Chevy build this fits right in the middle it's the Buick well this definitely has more performance than what you'll get for a thousand at a thousand you're looking at a GTX 1063 gig card or an RX 584 gig card at normal prices mind you or one of the pre-built I've talked about in the past those are great 1080p gaming machines but not really ideal for 1440p outside of csgo League of Legends and overwatch of course but for Triple A games they're pretty much strictly 1080p machines they also generally have less CPU speed they're not liquid cool they don't come with overclockable motherboards as often although you can custom build one that way and for $1,000 you're sort of looking at just a little bit less of everything now the $2,000 build is sort of the best of the best without the price reservations again at normal prices it gets you a que chip and 5 gigahertz overclocking it gets you a 1080 Ti instead of a 1070 it gives you true 4k gaming even in triple-a titles it gets you 4k excellent high refresh rate gaming in eSports titles overwatch will easily run at a hundred plus frames per second at 4k even at ultra detail but not everybody wants to spend $2,000 so this is sort of the middle ground not too hot not too cold just right I would like to put a reminder in here custom pcs are custom this is just a suggested build guide case choices power supply choices cooler choices brand of motherboard and graphics card choices brand of SSD choices these are all extremely personal decisions if your custom building a machining you say wolf I would rather have a cooler master case or I'd rather have a Corsair liquid cooler or I'd rather have MSI seuss or asrock that's fine it's your PC build at your way generally when you're spending 150 to $200 on a motherboard it doesn't really matter which company you buy from they're pretty similar in terms of features at a given price point in graphics cards they are about the same give or take you have your entry-level cards and you have your premium overclocked cards from the factory same thing with liquid coolers most 120 coolers cool about the same most 240 school about the same case choices are all over the map there are a million in one case choices so if you're commenting is why did you pick those parts they were on the shelf and they fit to $1,500 budget as much as anything else to be honest it is a nice build but you can always change it but every change adds cost one a bigger case want a Corsair obsidian 450 d for example it's a little bit wider a little bit taller it'll take larger coolers but it cost $50 more one at 1080 sure for 50 or $100 more you can have one want the K chip instead of the nan ka chip again another two dollars or so or you can have one fifty fifty fifty fifty pretty soon you've gotten the two thousand dollar machine so that's how that happens you $50 yourself to a whole nother price category if you're gonna start raising one component you might want to ask yourself what else needs to be raised to match it what I don't like doing is building mismatched systems for example putting a lock to I five eighty four hundred with a ten 80 TI in my opinion would be a bit silly likewise putting a three gig GTX 1060 with an i7 8700 K overclock to five gigahertz it's the equally silly so this is sort of a balanced mix of components that I think work well together in a 1500 are build I am now going to go through each of the parts in detail and talk about alternatives and pros and cons and what you get for the money going up or down a notch on each of them but before I do that a friendly reminder everything I'm about to show you and talk about is linked down in the video description below to Amazon and Newegg those are affiliate links they do support the channel if you found this useful helpful and informative or perhaps just entertaining please use those when shopping it really does help the first place to start is the CPU the i7 8700 this is the non k chip it currently retails for about $300 6 cores 12 threads it does have a fairly low base clock speed but that does not matter because it has an all core out-of-the-box turbo speed of 4.3 gigahertz not overclocked it's actually the same speed as an i7 8700 K on all six course they both run at 4.3 in their Max turbo all core mode so buying a K chip if you're not going to manually overclock it it does absolutely nothing for you over this CPU now the K chip does have the benefit of an unlocked multiplier and will go higher but so will this this has a max turbo speed of 4.6 now if you turn on enhance turbo in most decent motherboards you can actually get these CPUs to run up 4.6 gigahertz and we're going to test that in the next video but 4.3 4.6 they're both pretty close to each other unless you're going for a top-of-the-line best of the best build the real-world performance difference even between 4.3 and 4.6 is not that large you might be looking at anywhere but maybe three five or seven frames per second difference if you are cpu-bound and going for high refresh rate gaming if you're gonna play games at 1080p at medium detail to get 144 frames per second for example you're a competitive online gamer maybe you want 200 frames per second fair enough that might be why you want to go to 5 gigahertz but for 100 to 140 4 frames per second at high detail this actually will be just fine it does have the benefit of saving you about $50 over the K chip it does come with a cooler by the way but I wouldn't use it the stock cooler from Intel is fine on the i3 i5 it's not on the i7 I have tested that I've put this chip on the stock cooler that came in the box in thermal throttles when you put it under full load it's fine most of the time the stock cooler is not enough for an i7 even a locked i7 that's why we have a liquid cooler even on an ankh a chip one of the first questions that may be asked is why not go with an i-5 8600 K it's $50 less than this and it's unlocked you can run it at 5 gigahertz well yeah you can I would take 6 cores and 12 threads at 4.6 gigahertz all day long over 6 cores and 6 threads on the i-5 at 5 gigahertz the $50 increase while granted it takes the K off and means you can't go to 5 gigahertz it does mean that you have 12 threads if you're building a $1,500 machine today in 2018 and it's only got 6 threads I think you're gonna be really really sorry in 18 months that you did that 4 core 8 thread chips are now the entry level processor they're down to 150 dollars on the AMD side with Rison I understand that four cores 8 threads used to be top-of-the-line but if you buy an i5 chip you are decidedly in the middle of the space today and may very well be entry-level just 12 to 18 months from now because we may very well see four core eight thread chips add 120 to 125 dollars sometime in 2018 those have more threads than the current I 5s do even though you buy an i5 8600 K you still have 6 threads no matter how fast they run you are gonna find games in the next 18 in my opinion where that starts to become a limitation in the benchmarking that I've done in the past few months on the current I 5s I'm already finding games use all six threads if you're building a 1500 hour machine today do you already want the CPU to be fully utilized and fully maxed out or do you want to have some growing room what the i7 gives you is some room to grow if you're truly gonna choose the compromise choice if you're gonna say I'll go with the i-5 because I'm willing to go more middle of the ground I wanna save a little bit of money let me offer you a suggestion risin 5 1600 or Rison 5 1600 x 6 cores 12 threads slightly lower clock speed less ideal for over 100 frames per second gaming but still totally adequate and while it won't run as high at high of a clock speed it costs less and installs on a lower-cost motherboard speaking of the motherboard there are almost as many choices of motherboards as there are cases you can pick from anything from $100 on up to 250 frankly up to $500 although those are a bit crazy this is a nice middle-of-the-road option that is very fully featured and that will handle both this CPU and an upgrade in the future assuming the 9th gen chips work on the z3 70 series Wi-Fi and hard wired Gigabit LAN are included tons of RGB triple-m - I've reviewed that separately link to that down in the description below but you could go with the ultra gaming if you want to save a few dollars it's generally about 30 dollars less expensive less RGB it doesn't have the Wi-Fi it has eight phase-- power delivery instead of ten but that's not gonna matter on this CPU so why is this going in here because it just makes it nice and it has some extra features if you want the Wi-Fi if you want the triple m dot two slots for example the ultra gaming only has two if you want some of the extra features that are on here the sound blaster audio software the $30.00 cost of this over the cost of the Ultra gaming is not too bad you could go a completely different direction however and go all the way down to gigabytes basic board which can be found for as little as $100 this CPU would actually be just fine there and that would save you $100 in this build but it gets rid of the RGB it gets rid of the high-end sound chip it gets rid of no number of features that are on this board so whether or not you want to go with a deluxe board and a 1500 our build or save yourself a hundred dollars maybe get a non-fan seen on RGB board with lower end sound less m dot two slots no Wi-Fi a lower-end lan chip and maybe put that money into a gtx 1080i certainly understand as I said custom machines are custom now as far as gigabyte as a brand goes the MSI gaming carbon pro AC the Asus rug Strix - eboard the asrock Taichi board are all roughly similar to this in terms of capability and features slight variations in differences but they're all in the same ballpark all of those boards have been on my test bench back there all of them will run any of the Intel CPUs that a problem likewise with each of the brands there are less expensive versions you could go for example with one of the prime boards from a Seuss and save yourself fifty dollars or so and likewise you can go with an extreme for gaming motherboard from asrock save yourself about fifty dollars there and MSI has the great gaming for example I actually did a build with that so there's lots of ways to save money with this when it comes to your motherboard just realised that when you pay more you get more but you're getting features performance wise there is zero difference between this chip at 4.6 gigahertz on 100 our board a 200 our board or a 500 our board it is extreme overclocking on the top-end boards which doesn't matter here and then it's RGB m dot two slots what kind of LAN or Wi-Fi chip does it have how much RGB does it have how many SATA ports does it have what kind of audio chip that sort of thing that's what you're looking at when you buy a motherboard CPU cooler choices there are an endless variety of choices for CPU coolers I personally use a lot of cooler master and Corsair coolers but I've recently started using naktu and be quiet products as well when it comes to silence those are very very nice but they do tend to cost a little bit more in a $1,500 price if you want some bling and perhaps some really nice liquid cooling this is an interesting choice $50 buys you an RGB 120 millimeter liquid cooler that's less expensive than most companies none RGB liquid coolers it's very very nice I've used coolermaster several times in the past our liquid coolers I've not had a problem in fact my I 780 700 K on my test bench behind me has the 280 mm meter coolermaster back there and it runs at 5 gigahertz just fine for the 4.3 to 4.6 tikka Hertz this will run out this is all you need you don't need to spend extra on a 240 or 280 for this CPU that being said you don't really need a liquid cooler a hyper 212 Evo a hyper 6 12 a Noctua u9s for example the small 95 millimeter cube cooler would also do a very nice job the shadow rock from be quiet etc you could also use a corsair h 50 H 55 or H 60 those are all choices as well I wouldn't use the stock cooler I mentioned this before it's not enough for the i7 at these clock speeds the i5 8400 comes with the same stock cooler and it runs turbo at 3.8 gigahertz on 64 6 threads it's fine I've stress tested it with a 264 no issue this thermal throttles with the stop cooler at 4.3 gigahertz a 264 much less 4.6 so don't use the stock cooler get something else anything else in the maybe 20 to 50 dollar price range system Ram choices 16 gigs is the minimum you should be putting into a $1500 build 8 gigs is simply not an option 32 gigs is unnecessary for most people unless you plan to actually livestream Ghost Recon wildlands Mass Effect Andromeda those kinds of games that already use more than eight gigs just for themselves and if you're streaming and recording and running overlays and OBS and have multiple programs running yeah you really want to have 32 gig 16 is really pushing it but that's for top-of-the-line live streaming and frankly if you're gonna spend the money that 32 gigs cost get the K chip get a bigger cooler and you know go to the 2000 our Cadillac build so 16 gigs is kind of it now as far as RAM speed goes this is ddr4 2400 I am aware that faster Ram existed you can use faster Ram in this system this cost less on 16 gigs you can currently save between 20 to 40 dollars by buying 2400 3000 or 3,200 and again this is a system about making compromises the real world performance difference in most games and most applications between 2400 and 3200 is maybe one to three percent at most what does this mean your game runs at eighty-five frames per second instead of 87 big deal that's never gonna be a noticeable difference if I put two identical machines side-by-side one with 2400 one with 3200 let you play the same game in the same area at the same time without a framerate counter running you could not tell the difference they are that close it is an extremely minor difference it's the sort of thing that people look at benchmark charts and go oh well I better spend the money look not bar graph is larger than the other one yeah but look at the numbers look at the real world it doesn't really make any difference I've tested Ram all the way up to ddr4 4000 it is an incredibly minor difference in most situations the few situations where it matters you're not building this machine anyway you're building something fancier and more expensive so save your money and get 2,400 assuming it saves you twenty to forty dollars now if when you watch this video there's only a $10 price difference between 2400 and 3200 by all means okay fine spend the $10 that's it that's easy but if it's a $40 price difference I would put that $40 into a que chip or into a 1080 instead of a 1070 TI before I buy faster and there's so many other things to spend the money on larger SSD a nicer cooler a bigger case spend it somewhere else before you put it into faster ram storage solutions we have two SSDs and a hard drive that's not on the desk at the moment but that's beside the point we have a 256 gigabyte Intel 600 P nvme SSD those drives currently run over $100 however you can find a lot of good drives in that size at about the hundred hour price point Western Digital splack a date is SX 7000 or 6000 drives actually the six thousands about $90 you can get a number of drives like that or you can spend 20 or 30 dollars more and buy the Samsung 960 Evo which is faster than all of them but for the average user doesn't really matter we also have a 250 gigabyte Western Digital SATA SSD these are currently $79 and it saves you a couple of dollars over the nvme drive some people may ask the question why not just get two nvm ease or why not just get one SSD that's larger you could these were all my shelf if I were actually building this machine yes I would probably just get a 500 gig nvme SSD and skip the SATA but I don't have an extra one of those but I have these so what's going in there for a 1500 hour build a single 250 or 256 gig SSD isn't large enough in my opinion you're gonna want to put your games on the SSD they will load faster levels will load faster scene transitions will be faster it's just a much nicer experience 500 gigs of SSD gives you enough room to put your games on please note the real performance difference of your games on an nvme versus SATA drive pretty minor overall I don't I run most of mine on the SATA Drive I do have nvm ease in most of my systems so put Windows put your office application put maybe one or two games put your most frequently used stuff on the nvme and then put the big games that take up 50 or 60 gigabyte each on the SATA Drive also included in the 1500 our budget but not pictured here is a 2 terabyte Seagate 7200 rpm hard drive now the 2 terabyte drives are currently only 10 dollars more expensive than the 1 terabyte drive so skip the 1 terabyte they're no longer worth buying the price is too close you might consider buying a 4 terabyte drive those are less than double the price of a 2 terabyte drive if you need some extra space by all means now you can put games on hard drives and you can run games from hard drives most games in terms of frame rate will perform the same on a hard drive or SSD the benefit of putting it on the SSD is faster load time faster launch time much faster updating times because games constantly have patches and updates but SSDs cost money and I understand that if you have a large game collection that's prohibitively expensive to put it all on SSDs whether or not you want to put a 2 terabyte hard drive and a 250 gig SATA drive in here or skip the hard drive and put a 500 gig SATA Drive is entirely your choice as I said of beginning the video custom seize our custom arrange the storage however you want but in this 1500 our budget there is room for the nvme drive the SATA drive and the hard drive video card choices I already talked about video cards earlier in the video when it comes to resolution gaming etc let me just talk about budgets this retails for 450 dollars in February of 2018 when I'm making this video you cannot buy one for 450 dollars but I'm putting it there at the normal retail price because it's my hope then in the not-too-distant future graphics card prices will return to normal and you can buy one for 450 again or you might just get lucky or where you live perhaps you find one on a store shelf somewhere for between 50 to $100 more you can get a gtx 1080 whether it's worth it is a personal choice at 1440p ultra wide a 1080 is probably worth that the faster vram the gddr5 exxon a 1080 versus the non ex gddr5 on this will definitely help at standard 1440p and 1080p i think it's less of a concern the actual performance of the two cards at 1070 TI versus a 1080 stock out of the box is very very close until you go up in resolution the further up and resolution you go the higher the details go the larger the difference between the cards now a 1080 TI even at normal retail prices will not realistically fit into this budget 700 to 750 dollars is what a 1080 TI normally sells for although they don't today they're over a thousand at the moment in February of 2018 but if you're gonna spend half your budget on your graphics card you're gonna have to strip out a lot of other things to fit it in you could horizon 5 1600 X with this liquid cooler - one of the SSDs maybe with a lower end motherboard or whatnot you could probably fit or squeeze a 1080 Ti in but you're gonna put a lot of compromises into your machine to get there and a 1080 T on on a risin v 1600 or 1600 x strikes me as a bit of a mismatch between the two if you've got 750 dollars for a graphics card you've got three hundred and fifty dollars per CPU and it's better paired with it let me offer a caveat to this because of the shortage of graphics cards if you're watching this and cannot find those for a reason price look for a three gigabyte GTX 1060 they come in and out of stock occasionally in the 250 dollar price range now that's $50 over retail but it's the best we can do in February of 2018 the 20 series of cards are rumored to come out in the summer of 2018 now there'll be a shortage on those as well but maybe you can snag one when they first launched you could consider building this build as it is but swap this out for a 250 dollar GTX 10 63 gig card that'll take $200 off the price lowering it to 1300 with the plan to replace the graphics card with the next-gen when they come out in about six months time again shortage graphics cards would kind of have to be creative when it comes to these sorts of machines that leads us to our system case now the spec o - you can see back there I've previously done a review of that cases are such a personal choice it's difficult to even have a cohesive conversation you have little ITX cases you have micro ATX mid type mid Tower ATX cases full tower cases there are so many different brands and so many different options to choose from do you want tempered glass do you want plastic do you want a solid case with no window at all do you want RGB fans red LED or blue LED fans or no color on it there's just so many choices any case I pick it's gonna have people going I love it and I hate it what I will suggest to you is that buying a super expensive case for anything less than a super expensive build unless you just like the pretties and the shinies doesn't make a lot of sense likewise going with a really small basic case from a no-name manufacturer doesn't make any sense unless you're building a $500 super budget machine that is a compromise choice I personally love the step up from it which is the corsair obsidian 450 d but it's $50 more expensive and some people would rather put that $50 somewhere else if we're holding our budget do you want to give up the hard drive for example just to get a nicer case I would personally actually yes but I try to build machines that are compromises that will work for the widest possible viewers rather than what I personally would build for those of you curious I wouldn't even use a 450 d most of my machines are built in obsidian 750 DS which are full tower cases I live in Texas everything is bigger here so mo if my custom boat machines are actually put in very very large cases I've had a number of people ask about doing a mini ITX build I've never actually done a mini ITX build but I will do one sometime in 2018 it's on my list I know people want to see one all I can suggest when it comes to cases is buy something nice that's easy to work in buy something that fits all of your components maybe leaves you a little room to add some extra storage in the future and certainly be sure to check to make sure your motherboard and cooler will fit in whichever case that you choose for power supplies I'm of two minds now I'm putting in the corsair CX 550 m semi modular power supply it's all the power this system needs this system would run fine with a 1080 TI or a Vega 56 with that power supply you really don't need a 750 watt power supply for this sort of build now that is an 80 plus bronze I'm of two minds here I could easily make an argument for going to an 80 plus gold for 20 to 30 dollars more than that you can go to the txseries from Corsair which is the 80 plus gold series or for about double the price for about a hundred dollars you can go to the RM X line now the RM X line is actually technically a superior power supply it's better internally it's better with power delivery for overclocking if you're going for for example the K chip and you're gonna put a 280 millimeter liquid cooler yes absolutely go for the 80 plus gold RM X line skip the TX by the way if you're gonna go to five gigahertz but the TX 80 plus gold would be absolutely fine for this because we're not trying to do extreme overclocking we're just running a reasonable system at a mild turbo boost with a factory overclocked card that we're not going crazy with and so there's no need to spend over $100 on a power supply it just comes down to do you want the 85 percent power efficiency of the bronze or the almost 90 percent power efficiency of the 80 plus gold txseries that's a personal choice now as far as brain goes whether you go with corsair see sonic Coolermaster Thermaltake or others at the 50 ish dollar price range there's not a lot of difference between the different brands they all tend to offer pretty similar features some are modular summer semi modular and some are fully modular but beyond that distinction most of them are pretty some to be completely honest this has a Corsair power supply for the simple reason that it's a corsair case and i have several on the shelf so at that price range i pulled it off it could have easily been a master watt 550 from Coolermaster for example it would have accomplished exactly the same thing i want to end this video with some general thoughts about purchasing computer hardware in general spend more get more now that might sound self-explaining or obvious why would you even say that well i get asked all the time is it worth it to spend X to get X should I buy an i7 over and I 5 should I buy a rise in seven over a risin 5 should I get this card over that card if you have the money yes even if you don't fully utilize it today you'll grow into it most of you actually don't need 12 threads right now the i5 with the 6 threads is fine in 2018 in 2020 you'll really wish you had 212 threads because the the 6 threads I think will be very very limiting two years from now however you can't just spend the hundred dollars two years from now and glue the extra threads on you can only buy them today your logic might be well I'll just upgrade sure but in two years you'll need a new motherboard possibly new Ram ddr5 Ram is coming you'll need to change everything you'll rip your whole machine apart if you just spend the extra fifty to a hundred dollars now you could possibly skip that upgrade and buy a whole nother year of use out of your computer for a 50 to $100 increasing cost now if you're gonna put your money into anything in your computer put it in your CPU it's the hardest thing to upgrade because it requires a platform change most of the time yes I know risings supposed to be supported for four years we'll see how that well that works out even just one year post launch on the 300 series boards there have been some compatibility issues with the new Raven Ridge ap use hopefully they'll get worked out with with BIOS fixes but keep in mind that promising future support on CPUs that don't yet exist on a motherboard that's already been delivered to the customer that depends upon future BIOS updates which may or may not be possible and of course the development budget of each motherboard company it sounds nice but in my experience a CPU change really means you're gonna change your motherboard at the same time very very rarely do you get to change your CPU without the board swap likewise with your graphics card if you just want to play games at 1080p 60 frames per second high detail preset you don't need a 1070 TI a GTX 10 63 gig card will do that just fine today in February of 2018 what about in the summer of 2019 yeah probably not there are gonna be games then now you might say well that's only 18 months from now yes but it's three years from when the card came out remember the 10 series of cards came out in the summer of 2016 the design is 18 months old already so if you buy the 200 to 250 dollar card you're buying it halfway through its life at this point so if you've got the money if you can find one of these for 450 and it's 200 or 250 more then a three gig 1060 if you get three years of use out of it you are not wasting your money you're not future proofing yourself so much as your future resisting you're putting off when you have to buy an upgrade same thing with a 1080 TI yeah it's a lot more money but if it gets you another 18 months beyond that card again you're getting value for the money and possibly better future resale value if you look at the older products the top-of-the-line in each category holds its value of the best going back three years or four years to a GTX 780 Ti that card had three gigs of ram and still plays games today at 1080p high detail just fine the GTX 770 not so much there's a big difference today between a 770 and a 780 Ti and the same thing is true of the CPUs if you'd bought an i5 a couple of years ago you'd have gotten a fork or fourth friendship which is very limiting today battlefield 1 multiplayer online on a fork or for thread chip is not a great experience I know some of you will say I do it yeah you haven't tried it on one of these yet do it and you'll be like holy smokes that's so much better here's the funny thing it's not faster it's smoother your average frame rate will not go up substantially going from a four core i5 to a 6-quart at 12 thread I seven but the frame pacing will be so much better and so much smoother it's a much nicer experience like this video if you liked it share it with your friends if you loved it remember to subscribe to my channel with that big huge red button directly below questions and comments in the comment section and as OH video-description is where it's at all they feel affiliate links for all this stuff to Amazon a New Ager down there please consider supporting me by using those when shopping I would greatly appreciate it upcoming parts to this video the build testing and so on will be coming up very soon thank you so much for watching I will see you in the next videohello and welcome to tech deals part 1 of the $1,500 buick build this is the best on a budget i 787 hundred cpu mid range but still very nice z 370 motherboard geforce gtx 1070 graphics card nvme SSD 16 gigs of DDR 4 ram RGB liquid cooler a nice case and a nice semi modular power supply this is five hundred dollars down from the two thousand dollar Cadillac build that I did recently with an i7 8700 K and a 1080 Ti this provides excellent 1080p and 1440p gaming with that graphics card not really 4k but if you're looking to save some money it is a reasonable middle choice between the Cadillac and the Chevy this video is the parts overview and the y vlog all rolled into one I'm not doing them separately this time I'm gonna go through each of these parts talk about their pros and cons and alternatives but before we get into that I'm gonna do the 50,000 foot overview first talk about this computer from the big picture before we get down to the nitty-gritty first let's talk about gaming performance if you want to play all current games on the market at 1080p full-hd at high to ultra detail at sixty to a hundred and forty-four frames per second depending upon the game this machine will absolutely do that it has all the CPU needed and all the graphics card needed to basically play anything at 1080p without any compromises or reservations how much framerate you get and how much detail you get is variable you'll get lower frame rates at ultra detail you can get higher frame rates at high detail that's a personal choice as to whether or not you want pretty or fast but at 1080p basically you have no compromises here at 1440p standard meaning not ultra wide the normal 16:9 screen this computer will actually still play most current games at 1440p ultra detail at 60 frames per second and many games at high detail at a hundred plus frames per second it will not play every game at hundred frames per second at Ultra you'd need a 1080 Ti for that and even that would struggle in games but with very minor compromises at 1440 resolution this machine really is all that you need now 1440p ultra-wide the 21:9 screens are a little bit different those are five million pixels they are actually closer to 4k than they are to 1080p this machine will absolutely do it but it will not do them at Ultra at 100 frames per second because it's 5 million pixels it's two and a half times a standard 1080p screen it's a lot of pixels to move if you're okay with 1440p at high detail ultra wide that card absolutely will do it it is not a problem if you want more than that if you want a hundred frames per second if you want very higher Ultra you'll need a 1080 Ti but in terms of price it's a good compromise for a screen like that now what about 4k it will do 4k and absolutely if you want to play overwatch and Rainbow six siege and fortnight at 4k this is absolutely all you need almost overkill but not quite actually in games like fortnight it'd be very nice to have now what I want to play Ghost Recon wildlands Mass Effect Andromeda etc on this card at 4k no it doesn't have the horsepower you need a 1080 Ti for that but you don't need a 1080 Ti to play a lot of middle ground games at 4k you might want more than say a 1060 or an Rx 580 at 4k you want the extra V ran this has you want the extra processing power it is noticeable in terms of her performance jump over a 1060 but it's a lot less expensive than a 1080 TI now that's gaming offline what about live streaming perhaps you want a live stream to twitch or to YouTube this CPU will provide you with all the horsepower you need to livestream any current game on the market I've done that with various games including games like Ghost Recon wildlands on my i7 8700 I do have a better graphics card but I was also playing at 1440p my advice is you forget a live stream play at 1080p the combination of this graphics card at 1080p and that CPU you shouldn't have any problem the only possible caveat is system RAM if you're gonna be live streaming heavy Triple A games you might want more than 16 gigs of RAM that's absolutely all you need to just play any game on the market but if you also want to record in live stream your games run OBS run multiple monitors you really probably should have 32 gigs of RAM but this is enough for not live-streaming anything or if you're gonna livestream overwatch csgo League of Legends etc 16 gigs would be absolutely plenty what about non gaming performance a lot of these videos on YouTube end up being all about the gaming how well does it game how well does it play game stream games etc not everybody cares about gaming perhaps you want to put together a high end system for multitasking content creation 3d animation maybe you just want something snappy and responsive to be honest this build is overkill for the average person if you're not focused on gaming there's no need to spend that much money on a graphics card frankly as nice as the CPU is even it's overkill an i5 8400 or arisin 5 1600 would be plenty for the average person looking to just multitask watch videos do your taxes edit work documents this is really really overkill for that now if by chance you're doing something complicated scientific computing etc maybe you want to build a server or a workstation or a high-end content creation machine well this probably isn't right for that either because if you're doing that then you might actually want more cores you might want to be on a professional platform like X 299 or X 399 you might want to consider Rison 7 so this machine is really heavily entertainment and gaming focused about a third of this machines budget is in a graphics card between the graphics card and the CPU that's actually half the budget right there so if you're not interested in gaming you can spend a whole lot less than this and still get an amazing fast computer that does everything else just fine side note a lot of people are under the impression that if you're running Photoshop or illustrator or doing video editing you need a 1070 or 1080 or a really fancy graphics card you don't there are a very small number of people doing that kind of work who need GPU accelerated encoding but most encoding is still done on the CPU Adobe Premiere Pro when the I do these videos for YouTube for example that's all CPU some of the effects and transitions are GPU accelerated but it's such a minor percentage I have tested this by the way I put in a previous generation gtx 960 very basic card compared to a modern 1070 in one of my 4k videos the render time difference was like 1% it was trivial so you don't need a high end graphics card for that unless you're truly a professional content creator in which case you really should be on the high end platforms I am filming this video in February of 2018 one of the things that haven't addressed so far but I will talk about it here is the fact that the $1500 price for this machine isn't normal retail prices everything that you see here is currently at normal retail prices except for the graphics card the current GPU market is a bit out of whack the $1500 price has that budgeted 450 dollars which is what it should cost however unfortunately today in February 2018 those are currently going for more sometimes much more one consideration is to buy a pre-built machine and buy pre-built I don't mean Dell Acer HP Lenovo etc I mean CyberPower ibuypower Origin PC etc now I have done a number of reviews of those machines on my channel in the past I will put a link or two down in the video description below to a couple of recommended machines that are similar to this at a similar price point the benefit you can actually buy one of those today with a nice graphics card the downside is you don't get to pick out your individual components you don't get to pick out which liquid cooler you want which SSD you want which motherboard you want you sort of have to take whatever they put in there so there's pros and cons to both routes or you can just pay maybe $300 give or take more say 1,800 and set of 1,500 and build exactly what you see hopefully in the coming days weeks and months graphics cards return to normal prices and then we can just go back to building machines again so that's the 50,000 foot overview for this build what about the comparison to the $2,000 Cadillac build versus the $1,000 Chevy build this fits right in the middle it's the Buick well this definitely has more performance than what you'll get for a thousand at a thousand you're looking at a GTX 1063 gig card or an RX 584 gig card at normal prices mind you or one of the pre-built I've talked about in the past those are great 1080p gaming machines but not really ideal for 1440p outside of csgo League of Legends and overwatch of course but for Triple A games they're pretty much strictly 1080p machines they also generally have less CPU speed they're not liquid cool they don't come with overclockable motherboards as often although you can custom build one that way and for $1,000 you're sort of looking at just a little bit less of everything now the $2,000 build is sort of the best of the best without the price reservations again at normal prices it gets you a que chip and 5 gigahertz overclocking it gets you a 1080 Ti instead of a 1070 it gives you true 4k gaming even in triple-a titles it gets you 4k excellent high refresh rate gaming in eSports titles overwatch will easily run at a hundred plus frames per second at 4k even at ultra detail but not everybody wants to spend $2,000 so this is sort of the middle ground not too hot not too cold just right I would like to put a reminder in here custom pcs are custom this is just a suggested build guide case choices power supply choices cooler choices brand of motherboard and graphics card choices brand of SSD choices these are all extremely personal decisions if your custom building a machining you say wolf I would rather have a cooler master case or I'd rather have a Corsair liquid cooler or I'd rather have MSI seuss or asrock that's fine it's your PC build at your way generally when you're spending 150 to $200 on a motherboard it doesn't really matter which company you buy from they're pretty similar in terms of features at a given price point in graphics cards they are about the same give or take you have your entry-level cards and you have your premium overclocked cards from the factory same thing with liquid coolers most 120 coolers cool about the same most 240 school about the same case choices are all over the map there are a million in one case choices so if you're commenting is why did you pick those parts they were on the shelf and they fit to $1,500 budget as much as anything else to be honest it is a nice build but you can always change it but every change adds cost one a bigger case want a Corsair obsidian 450 d for example it's a little bit wider a little bit taller it'll take larger coolers but it cost $50 more one at 1080 sure for 50 or $100 more you can have one want the K chip instead of the nan ka chip again another two dollars or so or you can have one fifty fifty fifty fifty pretty soon you've gotten the two thousand dollar machine so that's how that happens you $50 yourself to a whole nother price category if you're gonna start raising one component you might want to ask yourself what else needs to be raised to match it what I don't like doing is building mismatched systems for example putting a lock to I five eighty four hundred with a ten 80 TI in my opinion would be a bit silly likewise putting a three gig GTX 1060 with an i7 8700 K overclock to five gigahertz it's the equally silly so this is sort of a balanced mix of components that I think work well together in a 1500 are build I am now going to go through each of the parts in detail and talk about alternatives and pros and cons and what you get for the money going up or down a notch on each of them but before I do that a friendly reminder everything I'm about to show you and talk about is linked down in the video description below to Amazon and Newegg those are affiliate links they do support the channel if you found this useful helpful and informative or perhaps just entertaining please use those when shopping it really does help the first place to start is the CPU the i7 8700 this is the non k chip it currently retails for about $300 6 cores 12 threads it does have a fairly low base clock speed but that does not matter because it has an all core out-of-the-box turbo speed of 4.3 gigahertz not overclocked it's actually the same speed as an i7 8700 K on all six course they both run at 4.3 in their Max turbo all core mode so buying a K chip if you're not going to manually overclock it it does absolutely nothing for you over this CPU now the K chip does have the benefit of an unlocked multiplier and will go higher but so will this this has a max turbo speed of 4.6 now if you turn on enhance turbo in most decent motherboards you can actually get these CPUs to run up 4.6 gigahertz and we're going to test that in the next video but 4.3 4.6 they're both pretty close to each other unless you're going for a top-of-the-line best of the best build the real-world performance difference even between 4.3 and 4.6 is not that large you might be looking at anywhere but maybe three five or seven frames per second difference if you are cpu-bound and going for high refresh rate gaming if you're gonna play games at 1080p at medium detail to get 144 frames per second for example you're a competitive online gamer maybe you want 200 frames per second fair enough that might be why you want to go to 5 gigahertz but for 100 to 140 4 frames per second at high detail this actually will be just fine it does have the benefit of saving you about $50 over the K chip it does come with a cooler by the way but I wouldn't use it the stock cooler from Intel is fine on the i3 i5 it's not on the i7 I have tested that I've put this chip on the stock cooler that came in the box in thermal throttles when you put it under full load it's fine most of the time the stock cooler is not enough for an i7 even a locked i7 that's why we have a liquid cooler even on an ankh a chip one of the first questions that may be asked is why not go with an i-5 8600 K it's $50 less than this and it's unlocked you can run it at 5 gigahertz well yeah you can I would take 6 cores and 12 threads at 4.6 gigahertz all day long over 6 cores and 6 threads on the i-5 at 5 gigahertz the $50 increase while granted it takes the K off and means you can't go to 5 gigahertz it does mean that you have 12 threads if you're building a $1,500 machine today in 2018 and it's only got 6 threads I think you're gonna be really really sorry in 18 months that you did that 4 core 8 thread chips are now the entry level processor they're down to 150 dollars on the AMD side with Rison I understand that four cores 8 threads used to be top-of-the-line but if you buy an i5 chip you are decidedly in the middle of the space today and may very well be entry-level just 12 to 18 months from now because we may very well see four core eight thread chips add 120 to 125 dollars sometime in 2018 those have more threads than the current I 5s do even though you buy an i5 8600 K you still have 6 threads no matter how fast they run you are gonna find games in the next 18 in my opinion where that starts to become a limitation in the benchmarking that I've done in the past few months on the current I 5s I'm already finding games use all six threads if you're building a 1500 hour machine today do you already want the CPU to be fully utilized and fully maxed out or do you want to have some growing room what the i7 gives you is some room to grow if you're truly gonna choose the compromise choice if you're gonna say I'll go with the i-5 because I'm willing to go more middle of the ground I wanna save a little bit of money let me offer you a suggestion risin 5 1600 or Rison 5 1600 x 6 cores 12 threads slightly lower clock speed less ideal for over 100 frames per second gaming but still totally adequate and while it won't run as high at high of a clock speed it costs less and installs on a lower-cost motherboard speaking of the motherboard there are almost as many choices of motherboards as there are cases you can pick from anything from $100 on up to 250 frankly up to $500 although those are a bit crazy this is a nice middle-of-the-road option that is very fully featured and that will handle both this CPU and an upgrade in the future assuming the 9th gen chips work on the z3 70 series Wi-Fi and hard wired Gigabit LAN are included tons of RGB triple-m - I've reviewed that separately link to that down in the description below but you could go with the ultra gaming if you want to save a few dollars it's generally about 30 dollars less expensive less RGB it doesn't have the Wi-Fi it has eight phase-- power delivery instead of ten but that's not gonna matter on this CPU so why is this going in here because it just makes it nice and it has some extra features if you want the Wi-Fi if you want the triple m dot two slots for example the ultra gaming only has two if you want some of the extra features that are on here the sound blaster audio software the $30.00 cost of this over the cost of the Ultra gaming is not too bad you could go a completely different direction however and go all the way down to gigabytes basic board which can be found for as little as $100 this CPU would actually be just fine there and that would save you $100 in this build but it gets rid of the RGB it gets rid of the high-end sound chip it gets rid of no number of features that are on this board so whether or not you want to go with a deluxe board and a 1500 our build or save yourself a hundred dollars maybe get a non-fan seen on RGB board with lower end sound less m dot two slots no Wi-Fi a lower-end lan chip and maybe put that money into a gtx 1080i certainly understand as I said custom machines are custom now as far as gigabyte as a brand goes the MSI gaming carbon pro AC the Asus rug Strix - eboard the asrock Taichi board are all roughly similar to this in terms of capability and features slight variations in differences but they're all in the same ballpark all of those boards have been on my test bench back there all of them will run any of the Intel CPUs that a problem likewise with each of the brands there are less expensive versions you could go for example with one of the prime boards from a Seuss and save yourself fifty dollars or so and likewise you can go with an extreme for gaming motherboard from asrock save yourself about fifty dollars there and MSI has the great gaming for example I actually did a build with that so there's lots of ways to save money with this when it comes to your motherboard just realised that when you pay more you get more but you're getting features performance wise there is zero difference between this chip at 4.6 gigahertz on 100 our board a 200 our board or a 500 our board it is extreme overclocking on the top-end boards which doesn't matter here and then it's RGB m dot two slots what kind of LAN or Wi-Fi chip does it have how much RGB does it have how many SATA ports does it have what kind of audio chip that sort of thing that's what you're looking at when you buy a motherboard CPU cooler choices there are an endless variety of choices for CPU coolers I personally use a lot of cooler master and Corsair coolers but I've recently started using naktu and be quiet products as well when it comes to silence those are very very nice but they do tend to cost a little bit more in a $1,500 price if you want some bling and perhaps some really nice liquid cooling this is an interesting choice $50 buys you an RGB 120 millimeter liquid cooler that's less expensive than most companies none RGB liquid coolers it's very very nice I've used coolermaster several times in the past our liquid coolers I've not had a problem in fact my I 780 700 K on my test bench behind me has the 280 mm meter coolermaster back there and it runs at 5 gigahertz just fine for the 4.3 to 4.6 tikka Hertz this will run out this is all you need you don't need to spend extra on a 240 or 280 for this CPU that being said you don't really need a liquid cooler a hyper 212 Evo a hyper 6 12 a Noctua u9s for example the small 95 millimeter cube cooler would also do a very nice job the shadow rock from be quiet etc you could also use a corsair h 50 H 55 or H 60 those are all choices as well I wouldn't use the stock cooler I mentioned this before it's not enough for the i7 at these clock speeds the i5 8400 comes with the same stock cooler and it runs turbo at 3.8 gigahertz on 64 6 threads it's fine I've stress tested it with a 264 no issue this thermal throttles with the stop cooler at 4.3 gigahertz a 264 much less 4.6 so don't use the stock cooler get something else anything else in the maybe 20 to 50 dollar price range system Ram choices 16 gigs is the minimum you should be putting into a $1500 build 8 gigs is simply not an option 32 gigs is unnecessary for most people unless you plan to actually livestream Ghost Recon wildlands Mass Effect Andromeda those kinds of games that already use more than eight gigs just for themselves and if you're streaming and recording and running overlays and OBS and have multiple programs running yeah you really want to have 32 gig 16 is really pushing it but that's for top-of-the-line live streaming and frankly if you're gonna spend the money that 32 gigs cost get the K chip get a bigger cooler and you know go to the 2000 our Cadillac build so 16 gigs is kind of it now as far as RAM speed goes this is ddr4 2400 I am aware that faster Ram existed you can use faster Ram in this system this cost less on 16 gigs you can currently save between 20 to 40 dollars by buying 2400 3000 or 3,200 and again this is a system about making compromises the real world performance difference in most games and most applications between 2400 and 3200 is maybe one to three percent at most what does this mean your game runs at eighty-five frames per second instead of 87 big deal that's never gonna be a noticeable difference if I put two identical machines side-by-side one with 2400 one with 3200 let you play the same game in the same area at the same time without a framerate counter running you could not tell the difference they are that close it is an extremely minor difference it's the sort of thing that people look at benchmark charts and go oh well I better spend the money look not bar graph is larger than the other one yeah but look at the numbers look at the real world it doesn't really make any difference I've tested Ram all the way up to ddr4 4000 it is an incredibly minor difference in most situations the few situations where it matters you're not building this machine anyway you're building something fancier and more expensive so save your money and get 2,400 assuming it saves you twenty to forty dollars now if when you watch this video there's only a $10 price difference between 2400 and 3200 by all means okay fine spend the $10 that's it that's easy but if it's a $40 price difference I would put that $40 into a que chip or into a 1080 instead of a 1070 TI before I buy faster and there's so many other things to spend the money on larger SSD a nicer cooler a bigger case spend it somewhere else before you put it into faster ram storage solutions we have two SSDs and a hard drive that's not on the desk at the moment but that's beside the point we have a 256 gigabyte Intel 600 P nvme SSD those drives currently run over $100 however you can find a lot of good drives in that size at about the hundred hour price point Western Digital splack a date is SX 7000 or 6000 drives actually the six thousands about $90 you can get a number of drives like that or you can spend 20 or 30 dollars more and buy the Samsung 960 Evo which is faster than all of them but for the average user doesn't really matter we also have a 250 gigabyte Western Digital SATA SSD these are currently $79 and it saves you a couple of dollars over the nvme drive some people may ask the question why not just get two nvm ease or why not just get one SSD that's larger you could these were all my shelf if I were actually building this machine yes I would probably just get a 500 gig nvme SSD and skip the SATA but I don't have an extra one of those but I have these so what's going in there for a 1500 hour build a single 250 or 256 gig SSD isn't large enough in my opinion you're gonna want to put your games on the SSD they will load faster levels will load faster scene transitions will be faster it's just a much nicer experience 500 gigs of SSD gives you enough room to put your games on please note the real performance difference of your games on an nvme versus SATA drive pretty minor overall I don't I run most of mine on the SATA Drive I do have nvm ease in most of my systems so put Windows put your office application put maybe one or two games put your most frequently used stuff on the nvme and then put the big games that take up 50 or 60 gigabyte each on the SATA Drive also included in the 1500 our budget but not pictured here is a 2 terabyte Seagate 7200 rpm hard drive now the 2 terabyte drives are currently only 10 dollars more expensive than the 1 terabyte drive so skip the 1 terabyte they're no longer worth buying the price is too close you might consider buying a 4 terabyte drive those are less than double the price of a 2 terabyte drive if you need some extra space by all means now you can put games on hard drives and you can run games from hard drives most games in terms of frame rate will perform the same on a hard drive or SSD the benefit of putting it on the SSD is faster load time faster launch time much faster updating times because games constantly have patches and updates but SSDs cost money and I understand that if you have a large game collection that's prohibitively expensive to put it all on SSDs whether or not you want to put a 2 terabyte hard drive and a 250 gig SATA drive in here or skip the hard drive and put a 500 gig SATA Drive is entirely your choice as I said of beginning the video custom seize our custom arrange the storage however you want but in this 1500 our budget there is room for the nvme drive the SATA drive and the hard drive video card choices I already talked about video cards earlier in the video when it comes to resolution gaming etc let me just talk about budgets this retails for 450 dollars in February of 2018 when I'm making this video you cannot buy one for 450 dollars but I'm putting it there at the normal retail price because it's my hope then in the not-too-distant future graphics card prices will return to normal and you can buy one for 450 again or you might just get lucky or where you live perhaps you find one on a store shelf somewhere for between 50 to $100 more you can get a gtx 1080 whether it's worth it is a personal choice at 1440p ultra wide a 1080 is probably worth that the faster vram the gddr5 exxon a 1080 versus the non ex gddr5 on this will definitely help at standard 1440p and 1080p i think it's less of a concern the actual performance of the two cards at 1070 TI versus a 1080 stock out of the box is very very close until you go up in resolution the further up and resolution you go the higher the details go the larger the difference between the cards now a 1080 TI even at normal retail prices will not realistically fit into this budget 700 to 750 dollars is what a 1080 TI normally sells for although they don't today they're over a thousand at the moment in February of 2018 but if you're gonna spend half your budget on your graphics card you're gonna have to strip out a lot of other things to fit it in you could horizon 5 1600 X with this liquid cooler - one of the SSDs maybe with a lower end motherboard or whatnot you could probably fit or squeeze a 1080 Ti in but you're gonna put a lot of compromises into your machine to get there and a 1080 T on on a risin v 1600 or 1600 x strikes me as a bit of a mismatch between the two if you've got 750 dollars for a graphics card you've got three hundred and fifty dollars per CPU and it's better paired with it let me offer a caveat to this because of the shortage of graphics cards if you're watching this and cannot find those for a reason price look for a three gigabyte GTX 1060 they come in and out of stock occasionally in the 250 dollar price range now that's $50 over retail but it's the best we can do in February of 2018 the 20 series of cards are rumored to come out in the summer of 2018 now there'll be a shortage on those as well but maybe you can snag one when they first launched you could consider building this build as it is but swap this out for a 250 dollar GTX 10 63 gig card that'll take $200 off the price lowering it to 1300 with the plan to replace the graphics card with the next-gen when they come out in about six months time again shortage graphics cards would kind of have to be creative when it comes to these sorts of machines that leads us to our system case now the spec o - you can see back there I've previously done a review of that cases are such a personal choice it's difficult to even have a cohesive conversation you have little ITX cases you have micro ATX mid type mid Tower ATX cases full tower cases there are so many different brands and so many different options to choose from do you want tempered glass do you want plastic do you want a solid case with no window at all do you want RGB fans red LED or blue LED fans or no color on it there's just so many choices any case I pick it's gonna have people going I love it and I hate it what I will suggest to you is that buying a super expensive case for anything less than a super expensive build unless you just like the pretties and the shinies doesn't make a lot of sense likewise going with a really small basic case from a no-name manufacturer doesn't make any sense unless you're building a $500 super budget machine that is a compromise choice I personally love the step up from it which is the corsair obsidian 450 d but it's $50 more expensive and some people would rather put that $50 somewhere else if we're holding our budget do you want to give up the hard drive for example just to get a nicer case I would personally actually yes but I try to build machines that are compromises that will work for the widest possible viewers rather than what I personally would build for those of you curious I wouldn't even use a 450 d most of my machines are built in obsidian 750 DS which are full tower cases I live in Texas everything is bigger here so mo if my custom boat machines are actually put in very very large cases I've had a number of people ask about doing a mini ITX build I've never actually done a mini ITX build but I will do one sometime in 2018 it's on my list I know people want to see one all I can suggest when it comes to cases is buy something nice that's easy to work in buy something that fits all of your components maybe leaves you a little room to add some extra storage in the future and certainly be sure to check to make sure your motherboard and cooler will fit in whichever case that you choose for power supplies I'm of two minds now I'm putting in the corsair CX 550 m semi modular power supply it's all the power this system needs this system would run fine with a 1080 TI or a Vega 56 with that power supply you really don't need a 750 watt power supply for this sort of build now that is an 80 plus bronze I'm of two minds here I could easily make an argument for going to an 80 plus gold for 20 to 30 dollars more than that you can go to the txseries from Corsair which is the 80 plus gold series or for about double the price for about a hundred dollars you can go to the RM X line now the RM X line is actually technically a superior power supply it's better internally it's better with power delivery for overclocking if you're going for for example the K chip and you're gonna put a 280 millimeter liquid cooler yes absolutely go for the 80 plus gold RM X line skip the TX by the way if you're gonna go to five gigahertz but the TX 80 plus gold would be absolutely fine for this because we're not trying to do extreme overclocking we're just running a reasonable system at a mild turbo boost with a factory overclocked card that we're not going crazy with and so there's no need to spend over $100 on a power supply it just comes down to do you want the 85 percent power efficiency of the bronze or the almost 90 percent power efficiency of the 80 plus gold txseries that's a personal choice now as far as brain goes whether you go with corsair see sonic Coolermaster Thermaltake or others at the 50 ish dollar price range there's not a lot of difference between the different brands they all tend to offer pretty similar features some are modular summer semi modular and some are fully modular but beyond that distinction most of them are pretty some to be completely honest this has a Corsair power supply for the simple reason that it's a corsair case and i have several on the shelf so at that price range i pulled it off it could have easily been a master watt 550 from Coolermaster for example it would have accomplished exactly the same thing i want to end this video with some general thoughts about purchasing computer hardware in general spend more get more now that might sound self-explaining or obvious why would you even say that well i get asked all the time is it worth it to spend X to get X should I buy an i7 over and I 5 should I buy a rise in seven over a risin 5 should I get this card over that card if you have the money yes even if you don't fully utilize it today you'll grow into it most of you actually don't need 12 threads right now the i5 with the 6 threads is fine in 2018 in 2020 you'll really wish you had 212 threads because the the 6 threads I think will be very very limiting two years from now however you can't just spend the hundred dollars two years from now and glue the extra threads on you can only buy them today your logic might be well I'll just upgrade sure but in two years you'll need a new motherboard possibly new Ram ddr5 Ram is coming you'll need to change everything you'll rip your whole machine apart if you just spend the extra fifty to a hundred dollars now you could possibly skip that upgrade and buy a whole nother year of use out of your computer for a 50 to $100 increasing cost now if you're gonna put your money into anything in your computer put it in your CPU it's the hardest thing to upgrade because it requires a platform change most of the time yes I know risings supposed to be supported for four years we'll see how that well that works out even just one year post launch on the 300 series boards there have been some compatibility issues with the new Raven Ridge ap use hopefully they'll get worked out with with BIOS fixes but keep in mind that promising future support on CPUs that don't yet exist on a motherboard that's already been delivered to the customer that depends upon future BIOS updates which may or may not be possible and of course the development budget of each motherboard company it sounds nice but in my experience a CPU change really means you're gonna change your motherboard at the same time very very rarely do you get to change your CPU without the board swap likewise with your graphics card if you just want to play games at 1080p 60 frames per second high detail preset you don't need a 1070 TI a GTX 10 63 gig card will do that just fine today in February of 2018 what about in the summer of 2019 yeah probably not there are gonna be games then now you might say well that's only 18 months from now yes but it's three years from when the card came out remember the 10 series of cards came out in the summer of 2016 the design is 18 months old already so if you buy the 200 to 250 dollar card you're buying it halfway through its life at this point so if you've got the money if you can find one of these for 450 and it's 200 or 250 more then a three gig 1060 if you get three years of use out of it you are not wasting your money you're not future proofing yourself so much as your future resisting you're putting off when you have to buy an upgrade same thing with a 1080 TI yeah it's a lot more money but if it gets you another 18 months beyond that card again you're getting value for the money and possibly better future resale value if you look at the older products the top-of-the-line in each category holds its value of the best going back three years or four years to a GTX 780 Ti that card had three gigs of ram and still plays games today at 1080p high detail just fine the GTX 770 not so much there's a big difference today between a 770 and a 780 Ti and the same thing is true of the CPUs if you'd bought an i5 a couple of years ago you'd have gotten a fork or fourth friendship which is very limiting today battlefield 1 multiplayer online on a fork or for thread chip is not a great experience I know some of you will say I do it yeah you haven't tried it on one of these yet do it and you'll be like holy smokes that's so much better here's the funny thing it's not faster it's smoother your average frame rate will not go up substantially going from a four core i5 to a 6-quart at 12 thread I seven but the frame pacing will be so much better and so much smoother it's a much nicer experience like this video if you liked it share it with your friends if you loved it remember to subscribe to my channel with that big huge red button directly below questions and comments in the comment section and as OH video-description is where it's at all they feel 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