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WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: endell actually sent over their premium luxury cooler that they show on all of the advertising isn't she a beauty now to be fair it wasn't actually through customer support that i got my hands on this cooler adele representative reached out and they said that they're willing to loan me one of these to see if it makes any difference and they made it very clear that unless you specifically spec up a k-sku variant in a dull xps you're not allowed to have one of these so what we're going to do today is we're going to compare this dell premium luxury cooler to this which is a noctua nhu9s a cooler that i've been reassured by people in the first al xps video will work on a dell xps because they've got weird proprietary mounting hardware but before we get into that it's time for a word from today's video sponsor today's video is sponsored by skillshare which is an online learning community with thousands of classes for you to get better at stuff it's a great place to discover new skills in various topics like animation design illustration lifestyle business and writing in terms of animation for example there's a course by fraser davidson called simple character animation creator walk cycle with dog fraser davidson walks you through a simple process to create characterful animations look at all the life and character and dem animations classes on skillshare also involve a class project which helps you flex on everybody around you and how much more you've learnt than them skillshare is also affordable at less than ten dollars a month with an annual subscription which means that you can brush up on all of these new skills without breaking the bank so if this sounds good to you and you're ready to go from a skillless loser to a skillful winner then use the link in my description below the first thousand people to use the link will get a free trial of skillshare premium membership now aside from the coolers we're gonna do another test today because for some reason on every video where i complain about single channel versus dual channel i get a bunch of comments of people telling me that it doesn't matter there's no performance difference between the two so for the 17 millionth time on this channel we're gonna show that it does in fact make a difference going from single channel to dual channel now to the credit of dell's customer support they did actually end up clearing that 330 dollar coupon that we needed for the dual channel 16 gig ram kit which i still can't get over that ram pricing but then a bit of a whoopsie happened uh because anna ordered the ram and then accidentally ordered laptop ram so we don't have dell ram to test in dual channel versus the single channel dell kit but i do have a patriot viper kit that clocks to 2666 megahertz in dual channel on the system compared to the 29 33 megahertz of the single stick so we're going to compare it like a slightly kneecapped dual channel against single channel with an advantage having a quick look at the benchmarks comparing the faster single stick to the slower dual channel kit uh we're getting about a 10 to 20 performance uplift depending on the use case so with battlefield 5 it's a big jump going from 106 frames per second to 132 frames per second with higher one percent lows as well gta 5 wasn't as much a difference with 115 to 130 frames per second however when it comes to cinebench which is a purely cpu cpu-based workload a very short burst test there was pretty much no difference it was within the margin of error but that's not because there's no difference between single and dual channel there it's because the cpu immediately jumped to 100 degrees celsius and then throttled itself into oblivion so whether or not you have eight channels of ram going there it's not going to make a difference because the cpu is on fire uh so with that it brings us neatly to the cooler comparisons now when it comes to the temperature testing we're going to have a look at battlefield 5 at 1080p because it very evenly stresses the system both the cpu and the gpu so it gives you a good indication of load temperatures while gaming now with the little stock loser cooler it was fluctuating between 87 degrees and 93 degrees celsius with a core frequency of 3.9 gigahertz now the reason that 90 degrees celsius is important is because that's when the cpu really starts slowing itself down interestingly enough though having a chat with that dell representative according to dell they only consider it overheating if a system actually crashes under the thermal load to stop itself from catching on fire now i guess that's not technically incorrect but that tells you a lot about their kind of design philosophy around cooling solutions in their systems now moving over to the premium luxury cooler it's it's a lot better actually we were sitting at between 74 and 78 degrees celsius with a core frequency of between 4.1 and 4.3 gigahertz so we get a little bit more cpu frequency and we get way lower temperatures it's still running pretty hot but it's definitely better as far as performance differences go it's not as big as single channel to deal channel with battlefield 5 we went from 132 frames per second to 136 frames per second which yeah you wouldn't be able to notice that difference now moving on to the noctua cooler it was fluctuating between 69 and 75 degrees celsius which is not much lower than the premium luxury cooler but its core frequency was quite a bit higher it was sitting between 5 4.5 and 4.6 gigahertz and there was much less fluctuation going on because the temperatures were more under control although that didn't translate into any significant performance difference uh going from 136 frames per second with the premium luxury cooler to 140 frames per second with the noctua cooler and then finally we get to the cinebench results which in my opinion are actually more important than the gaming tests because this isn't a gaming system and chances are people are gonna do extended cpu intensive workloads on the system uh and cinebench is actually not that hardcore like it's a two-minute test that puts 100 load on the cpu so if it can't handle cinebench well that doesn't bode well for extended workloads starting off with the little losers stock cooler um yeah the moment that you start the test the cpu boosts to 4.3 gigahertz but then immediately all the cores hit 100 degrees celsius and then it has to throttle back to 3.5 gigahertz until the end of the test so basically if you have a cpu intensive workload if it's less than 10 seconds long this cooler is really good then you're golden you're gonna get not quite the full performance of the cpu but yeah good good uh that actually leads to a result of 3514 cinebench points next up we have the ultra premium super luxury premium dell cooler which with cinebench starts off at about 4.6 gigahertz but then after about 20 seconds the cpu hits 90 degrees celsius and then it slows down to 3.9 gigahertz that's a way better result than the first cooler but there's still slowing down happening and then the actual cinebench result you get here is way better it goes from 3514 to 4187 so that shows you how much that thermal throttling is actually holding back the system and then finally when it comes to the little knock to our cooler when starting the test it also boosts straight up to 4.6 gigahertz and then after 20 seconds it also throttles down but to about 4.2 gigahertz now interestingly uh it's not seeming to run into the thermal limitations that the first two dowel coolers are because the max cpu temperature that we're getting is about 80 degrees celsius here and then it gives you a score of 4 4442 which is higher than the premium luxury cooler score so it means we have a higher sustained clock with the knock to our cooler we're still seeing those cpu frequencies drop after 20 seconds despite the fact that we're not actually running into any thermal limitations like we did with the two dowel coolers now the reason for that is actually intel's fault because of the turbo boost max short period boost max turbo mode thing uh which basically what that means is that the cpu is allowed to boost and use up to 225 watts of power for 20 seconds and then after 20 seconds regardless of thermally what's going on it's going to reduce the actual power allowance to the cpu which means that you get a lower core frequency now if you have like a normal custom pc motherboard from a company like asus or gigabyte or msi or whatever you don't really have to worry about those power limits because they usually just ignore them out of the box anyway whereas with this oem system they follow intel's spec very carefully and well they don't allow you to turn off that thing in the bios which is unfortunate and it means that your only option to bypass it is to download intel's extreme tweaker utility which doesn't let you switch it off it just lets you extend the boost period from 20 seconds to 120 seconds which is still not perfect but it's better and when you redo the cinebench test with the noctua cooler on there the score jumps from 4442 up to 4612 which helps a little bit it would have been higher if we could just turn that the the boost limiter off but that's not an option on the dell xps unfortunately now the extended boost period wouldn't help the performance of the first two dial coolers because they weren't throttling because of that they were throttling because of thermal limitations just a final note before we get into the conclusion the ambient temperature in this room while i did the test for all of the coolers was 19.5 degrees celsius and that mixed with a new thermal paste application for each of these coolers using the same thermal paste and the fact that there was no dust buildup anywhere means that this is pretty much the best case scenario for the temperatures on this system two years down the line with some dust buildup in the summer in a hotter country and these results are going to look way worse than they look here i'm i'm sorry today's video was pretty boring all we did was prove that bad cpu coolers are in fact bad and that single channel is worse than dual channels something that we've done so many so many times in this channel but there we go we have the results again now on a final note in the beginning of the video i told you i was going to show you how to mount this noctua cooler on the dell xps the problem is it turned into a more complicated process than i was expecting because of dell's stupid proprietary cooler mounting that they have on here it's really annoying actually they give you bad cpu coolers that can't handle the cpu that it's screwed to and then they weld this proprietary mounting to the case so that even if you wanted to you couldn't upgrade the cooler yourself like why do you do stuff like this it's so irritating but basically what i ended up having to do was buy new screws that would screw into the mounting the dowel welded to the case for some reason uh the problem was that the screws were too long so i actually ended up having to dremel them down for them to fit into the mounting which for a beginner using a dremel to cut screws down and stuff is maybe not a viable option you could also dremel the standoffs off the case uh but that would probably void your warranty i can't imagine that i can't imagine dell would like you taking a dremel to their case and then there's the easier option which is just buying one of the uber luxury premium luxury coolers off of ebay because that's much easier you just unscrew the stock cooler that's on there already and then you screw on the luxury cooler with thermal paste in between and stuff it's a really easy process that even a beginner can do uh so yeah i would recommend that for a beginner and in my opinion that's like a minimum upgrade on one of these systems and then on a final final note dell stop using these terrible coolers on your non kscu variant cpus it's an unacceptable cooling solution and just because acer does it with the loser nitro suckface edition doesn't mean you should do it too so with that thank you very much for watching the video if you enjoyed it like and subscribe to the channel for more videos like this one let me know in the comment section below what you think of the tests that we did today and until next video bye-bye youdell actually sent over their premium luxury cooler that they show on all of the advertising isn't she a beauty now to be fair it wasn't actually through customer support that i got my hands on this cooler adele representative reached out and they said that they're willing to loan me one of these to see if it makes any difference and they made it very clear that unless you specifically spec up a k-sku variant in a dull xps you're not allowed to have one of these so what we're going to do today is we're going to compare this dell premium luxury cooler to this which is a noctua nhu9s a cooler that i've been reassured by people in the first al xps video will work on a dell xps because they've got weird proprietary mounting hardware but before we get into that it's time for a word from today's video sponsor today's video is sponsored by skillshare which is an online learning community with thousands of classes for you to get better at stuff it's a great place to discover new skills in various topics like animation design illustration lifestyle business and writing in terms of animation for example there's a course by fraser davidson called simple character animation creator walk cycle with dog fraser davidson walks you through a simple process to create characterful animations look at all the life and character and dem animations classes on skillshare also involve a class project which helps you flex on everybody around you and how much more you've learnt than them skillshare is also affordable at less than ten dollars a month with an annual subscription which means that you can brush up on all of these new skills without breaking the bank so if this sounds good to you and you're ready to go from a skillless loser to a skillful winner then use the link in my description below the first thousand people to use the link will get a free trial of skillshare premium membership now aside from the coolers we're gonna do another test today because for some reason on every video where i complain about single channel versus dual channel i get a bunch of comments of people telling me that it doesn't matter there's no performance difference between the two so for the 17 millionth time on this channel we're gonna show that it does in fact make a difference going from single channel to dual channel now to the credit of dell's customer support they did actually end up clearing that 330 dollar coupon that we needed for the dual channel 16 gig ram kit which i still can't get over that ram pricing but then a bit of a whoopsie happened uh because anna ordered the ram and then accidentally ordered laptop ram so we don't have dell ram to test in dual channel versus the single channel dell kit but i do have a patriot viper kit that clocks to 2666 megahertz in dual channel on the system compared to the 29 33 megahertz of the single stick so we're going to compare it like a slightly kneecapped dual channel against single channel with an advantage having a quick look at the benchmarks comparing the faster single stick to the slower dual channel kit uh we're getting about a 10 to 20 performance uplift depending on the use case so with battlefield 5 it's a big jump going from 106 frames per second to 132 frames per second with higher one percent lows as well gta 5 wasn't as much a difference with 115 to 130 frames per second however when it comes to cinebench which is a purely cpu cpu-based workload a very short burst test there was pretty much no difference it was within the margin of error but that's not because there's no difference between single and dual channel there it's because the cpu immediately jumped to 100 degrees celsius and then throttled itself into oblivion so whether or not you have eight channels of ram going there it's not going to make a difference because the cpu is on fire uh so with that it brings us neatly to the cooler comparisons now when it comes to the temperature testing we're going to have a look at battlefield 5 at 1080p because it very evenly stresses the system both the cpu and the gpu so it gives you a good indication of load temperatures while gaming now with the little stock loser cooler it was fluctuating between 87 degrees and 93 degrees celsius with a core frequency of 3.9 gigahertz now the reason that 90 degrees celsius is important is because that's when the cpu really starts slowing itself down interestingly enough though having a chat with that dell representative according to dell they only consider it overheating if a system actually crashes under the thermal load to stop itself from catching on fire now i guess that's not technically incorrect but that tells you a lot about their kind of design philosophy around cooling solutions in their systems now moving over to the premium luxury cooler it's it's a lot better actually we were sitting at between 74 and 78 degrees celsius with a core frequency of between 4.1 and 4.3 gigahertz so we get a little bit more cpu frequency and we get way lower temperatures it's still running pretty hot but it's definitely better as far as performance differences go it's not as big as single channel to deal channel with battlefield 5 we went from 132 frames per second to 136 frames per second which yeah you wouldn't be able to notice that difference now moving on to the noctua cooler it was fluctuating between 69 and 75 degrees celsius which is not much lower than the premium luxury cooler but its core frequency was quite a bit higher it was sitting between 5 4.5 and 4.6 gigahertz and there was much less fluctuation going on because the temperatures were more under control although that didn't translate into any significant performance difference uh going from 136 frames per second with the premium luxury cooler to 140 frames per second with the noctua cooler and then finally we get to the cinebench results which in my opinion are actually more important than the gaming tests because this isn't a gaming system and chances are people are gonna do extended cpu intensive workloads on the system uh and cinebench is actually not that hardcore like it's a two-minute test that puts 100 load on the cpu so if it can't handle cinebench well that doesn't bode well for extended workloads starting off with the little losers stock cooler um yeah the moment that you start the test the cpu boosts to 4.3 gigahertz but then immediately all the cores hit 100 degrees celsius and then it has to throttle back to 3.5 gigahertz until the end of the test so basically if you have a cpu intensive workload if it's less than 10 seconds long this cooler is really good then you're golden you're gonna get not quite the full performance of the cpu but yeah good good uh that actually leads to a result of 3514 cinebench points next up we have the ultra premium super luxury premium dell cooler which with cinebench starts off at about 4.6 gigahertz but then after about 20 seconds the cpu hits 90 degrees celsius and then it slows down to 3.9 gigahertz that's a way better result than the first cooler but there's still slowing down happening and then the actual cinebench result you get here is way better it goes from 3514 to 4187 so that shows you how much that thermal throttling is actually holding back the system and then finally when it comes to the little knock to our cooler when starting the test it also boosts straight up to 4.6 gigahertz and then after 20 seconds it also throttles down but to about 4.2 gigahertz now interestingly uh it's not seeming to run into the thermal limitations that the first two dowel coolers are because the max cpu temperature that we're getting is about 80 degrees celsius here and then it gives you a score of 4 4442 which is higher than the premium luxury cooler score so it means we have a higher sustained clock with the knock to our cooler we're still seeing those cpu frequencies drop after 20 seconds despite the fact that we're not actually running into any thermal limitations like we did with the two dowel coolers now the reason for that is actually intel's fault because of the turbo boost max short period boost max turbo mode thing uh which basically what that means is that the cpu is allowed to boost and use up to 225 watts of power for 20 seconds and then after 20 seconds regardless of thermally what's going on it's going to reduce the actual power allowance to the cpu which means that you get a lower core frequency now if you have like a normal custom pc motherboard from a company like asus or gigabyte or msi or whatever you don't really have to worry about those power limits because they usually just ignore them out of the box anyway whereas with this oem system they follow intel's spec very carefully and well they don't allow you to turn off that thing in the bios which is unfortunate and it means that your only option to bypass it is to download intel's extreme tweaker utility which doesn't let you switch it off it just lets you extend the boost period from 20 seconds to 120 seconds which is still not perfect but it's better and when you redo the cinebench test with the noctua cooler on there the score jumps from 4442 up to 4612 which helps a little bit it would have been higher if we could just turn that the the boost limiter off but that's not an option on the dell xps unfortunately now the extended boost period wouldn't help the performance of the first two dial coolers because they weren't throttling because of that they were throttling because of thermal limitations just a final note before we get into the conclusion the ambient temperature in this room while i did the test for all of the coolers was 19.5 degrees celsius and that mixed with a new thermal paste application for each of these coolers using the same thermal paste and the fact that there was no dust buildup anywhere means that this is pretty much the best case scenario for the temperatures on this system two years down the line with some dust buildup in the summer in a hotter country and these results are going to look way worse than they look here i'm i'm sorry today's video was pretty boring all we did was prove that bad cpu coolers are in fact bad and that single channel is worse than dual channels something that we've done so many so many times in this channel but there we go we have the results again now on a final note in the beginning of the video i told you i was going to show you how to mount this noctua cooler on the dell xps the problem is it turned into a more complicated process than i was expecting because of dell's stupid proprietary cooler mounting that they have on here it's really annoying actually they give you bad cpu coolers that can't handle the cpu that it's screwed to and then they weld this proprietary mounting to the case so that even if you wanted to you couldn't upgrade the cooler yourself like why do you do stuff like this it's so irritating but basically what i ended up having to do was buy new screws that would screw into the mounting the dowel welded to the case for some reason uh the problem was that the screws were too long so i actually ended up having to dremel them down for them to fit into the mounting which for a beginner using a dremel to cut screws down and stuff is maybe not a viable option you could also dremel the standoffs off the case uh but that would probably void your warranty i can't imagine that i can't imagine dell would like you taking a dremel to their case and then there's the easier option which is just buying one of the uber luxury premium luxury coolers off of ebay because that's much easier you just unscrew the stock cooler that's on there already and then you screw on the luxury cooler with thermal paste in between and stuff it's a really easy process that even a beginner can do uh so yeah i would recommend that for a beginner and in my opinion that's like a minimum upgrade on one of these systems and then on a final final note dell stop using these terrible coolers on your non kscu variant cpus it's an unacceptable cooling solution and just because acer does it with the loser nitro suckface edition doesn't mean you should do it too so with that thank you very much for watching the video if you enjoyed it like and subscribe to the channel for more videos like this one let me know in the comment section below what you think of the tests that we did today and until next video bye-bye you