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WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: en- A few weeks ago Kaynen, oneof our writers here on "B2B"pitched the topic of electric turbos.And I was like, that's acool idea, but we can't.Those things are a scam!And then our otherwriter, Claire, was like,"No, they're for real, weshould definitely do that."And then I was like, Irespect both of your views,but I don't believe there's such a thingas an electric turbo.I showed them a Mighty Carmons videoproving they were a scam,but then they told meAudi has been using themfor a couple of years.And then I showed them a Cletus videowith an electric turbo,but it made the car slower.But then they showed medifferent Cletus videowhere it made the car faster.So I did a little more diggingand found out there wassome truth to their claims.So I did what any adult was do,and that is admit my mistakeand agreed to make this episode.Today we're gonna cover the physicsof traditional turbo chargers,talk about parasitic losses,and explain how thisonce-upon-a-time eBay scamhas miraculously become a legit pieceof power-boosting technology.Or has it?Let's go.(jazz music)Thank you to Ekster forsponsoring today's video.Everything is smart today.I'm talking smart phones,smart cars, and smart homes,and smart people like ya boy.Well now there's an even smarter wallet.This is the Ekster Wallet,and it was designed to improve the wayyou carry your everyday items.And since smart people, like myself,love to use checklists,I've developed thishandy-dandy Ekster Checksterto show you why you need one.It's got quick card access.I just put this trigger and ka-boom!Every card you need rightat your little fingertips,and there's even this tracker.With this beauty youdon't even have to worryabout losing your wallet.It's got an app that allows you to seewhere your wallet it isanywhere in the world,and it can be pinged with your phone.Hey Siri, where's my wallet?(wallet chirping)It's even got voice commandwith Google Home, Alexa, and Siri.And thanks to a solar-powered battery,the tracker gets up to three months chargewith just two hours of sunlight.It's efficient, secure, stylish,with gold rated leather,and it features an RFID protection.So it really is the smart choice.Use code "DONUT" to get 5%off your next Ekster purchase,and starting April 13th Eksteris running its Mother's Day promotion,giving an additional 20% off.For all you math wizzes out there,that's a total of 25%off starting April 13th.Now let's get back to some "B2B", baby.To understand electric turbos,we gotta understand traditional turbos.We all know that internalcombustion enginesmake power by igniting amixture of air and fuel.The more air and fuel that is burned,the more power that can be produced.If you want more power, you need more air.More air, plus more fuel, equals James!- More power, baby, more power, baby!More power, baby, more power, baby, more-- So how do you get more air?With a compressor.They come in all shapes and sizes,but they all share the same purposeof jamming more air into your engine.But that compressor has tobe powered by something.Superchargers with areconceptually similar to turbosare hooked up directly to the crankshaft,while turbos are driven by exhaust gassesflowing out of the enginein through a turbine.That turbine is directlylinked to a compressor fan.So as exhaust gasses spin the turbinethe compressor spins,pulling in extra air.Simple enough, you guys are now skilledon how to turbos and superchargers work.So conceptually electric turbochargersshould work in a similar waybut instead of being poweredby exhaust gasses or the crank shaft,they get powered by anelectric motor via the battery.Seems like a reasonable wayto power your compressor.So why doesn't it work?Many people might arguethat the parasitic losses are too great,that the power requiredto run the electric turbowas more than the power gained from it.If that was a littleconfusing, don't worry,Jerry Berry's here to explain.Let's say you've got a car that,without any forced induction,produces about 200 horsepower.Now let's add a compressorthat needs 20 horsepower to operate.In the case of the supercharger,that 20 horsepower load willbe applied to the crankshaft,essentially taking 20horsepower from the enginethat could've been going to the wheels.This is known as parasitic loss.The good news is thatthe extra air you pump inlets you burn more fuel,resulting in more power.In this case, 100 horsepower more.So once everything is all said and done,your 200 horsepower engine isnow producing 280 horsepower.Not too shabby.You've gotta lay down $16 a share at AMC,let it sink a little, sell some,then re-buy back at a lower priceand wait for it to go backup to the moon! (laughs)Now what if we use the turboon the same 200 horsepowerengine instead of a supercharger?Well, a turbo doesn't pullits power from the crankshaft,but from exhaust gasses beingpushed out of the engine.This causes back pressure,which does place a load on your engine,but in our case that might beas little as five horsepower.The other 15 horsepoweris coming from energythat would've otherwisebeen going out the exhaust.So in the end, you're up to295 horsies, even better.A supercharger doesn't tapinto that free, recycled,would-be wasted energylike the turbo does,which is why turbos areso much more efficient.So what would theseparasitic losses look likein an electric turbo?If we used our example above,the 20 horsepowerrequired by our compressorwould convert to about 15 kilowatts.That's already a big problem,because your average alternatorcan't even crank two kilowatts of power.But lets say that they made an alternatorthat could put out 15 kilowatts.We still have another problem.Alternators aren't very efficient.A decent one is about 60% efficient,so that brings us about 25kilowatts of load to the engine,or about 35 horsepower,significantly more than the equivalentsupercharger to turbo charger.However, after that 100 horsepower gain,you would still have a netpositive gain in power.The physics and math technically work out.Theoretically, an electricturbo is totally possible,but, and there's always abut, we have another problem.Getting 15 kilowattsout of a 12 volt system,and most cars are running on 12 volts,draws a lot of current,1250 amps to be exact.That's reaching thelevels a Tesla P100 draws,and that is the entire car.This is just a littlebaby 15 kilowatt turbo.Doesn't make sense.If want to fix this wewould have to bring ina higher voltage system with a separategenerator, battery, and cabling.Which, as you might have guessed,adds a lot of weight and in the endis gonna be less practical.and probably way more expensivethan just sticking with a conventionalsupercharger or turbo charger.Battery tech is prettygood these days, though,and it makes it more feasible,at least for smaller turbos.Audi has released a fewcars with electric turbos.They come with a 48 volt system in orderto power the electricturbo's seven kilowatt motor.However, this electricturbo is supplementingthe car's other traditional turbos.This is a common trend amongOEMs exploring this tech,and it makes sense.An electric turbo can kick on quicklyand provide instant boost.While a conventional turbo has to spin upfrom the exhaust gasses,which can take a lot of time.You can skip the lagwith an electric turbo,then switch to the conventionalturbo once it's spooled up.Another approach tomaking an electric turbois just an electric motoronto a conventional turbo.You can use the electricmotor to get the turboto spool up quickly and thenlet the exhaust take over.The turbo even acts as agenerator during deceleration.So yeah, all of this isimpressive and cool and all,but are those 12 volt aftermarketsystems totally bogus?Well, not entirely.- Hey guys, what's up?I've got some big news, andit's right here on my head.Introducing the firstofficial Donut beanie.Only available at donutmedia.com.It comes in two awesome colors,Vibrant Orange for those who wantto stand out during the dayand Navy Blue for those whowant to blend in at the night.And the best thing about abeanie, no matter who you are,it can help highlight your personality.Whether you're intimidating at firstbut once you get to knowyou're a really nice person.Or if you're someonewho always has that bandthat your friend's never heard ofand you're shocked and you make themlisten to them right away.Just like, sort of an old,poetic soul kinda type.An actor, slash writer, slashdirector, slash musician.I own an acoustic guitar.The Donut Beanie is the perfect hatfor any occasion or any type of person.Get yours at donutmedia.comtoday! (laughs)Today!- There are some aftermarketelectric turbos that are legit,but they might not work the way you think.These E-turbos come with a 48 volt batterythat your car charges,and then you discharge thatbattery when you want to boost.So you definitely do get boost,but it's not sustained boost.It can only run for amaximum of four minutes.Now four minutes, you can do a lotof fricken' sick burnies in four minutes.So that's plenty of timeto show off to your buds,or your girls, or your bud's girls.But you've gotta let your batterycool down and recharge after.And to get those four minutes back.You're going to have to wait 40 minutes.There it is, there's thecatch, we figured it out.So, how on earth did electric turbosleap from eBay scam to legit?Well, most of the OEM E-turbosare more likely ElectronicallyAssisted Turbos.And these aftermarket ones aren't a scam,but they're not as legit asthey seem at first glance.In the end, getting powerdirectly from the crankshaft,or better yet from wasted exhaust,is just going to be more efficient.The facts are the facts, though.Is it a turbo, yes.Well, a compressor, really,but is it solely run on electricity, yes.Does it give you boost, yes.These aftermarket electric turbosmay have a lot of downsides,but if you wanna just make more power,there's actually an aftermarket turbothat'll let you do that.If I'm being for real, youguys, it's pretty awesome.Also, just to clarify, Iwasn't wrong in that meeting,I just wasn't right.Okay, there's a difference.Thank you guys so much forwatching this episode of "B2B."If you want even more Donut content,become a Donut Underground Follower.Donut Underground's the membershipfor our diehard Donut fanswhere they can meet more car enthusiastsand get special contentthat we just can't showyou on the channel.You can chat with us in the Discord,you get stickers, it's africken' fun-ass time, man.Thank you guys so much for watchin'.Follow us here at Donuton Instagram @DonutMedia.Follow met at Jeremiah Burton,and until next week, bye for now.